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- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37Hopefully Nintendo can show Sony and Microsoft that graphics aren't the only things that sell games. This might help the youth of today to go back and experience some old-school titles, which is totally awesome.
- jpcoombs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32First of all, adults play more video games than kids. It's amazing to think about, but all of us from the Nintendo Generation are actually above 25 now. We have our own kids now, so I think that saying that "picking out 'nostalgia-seekers' is going to be ineffective strategy" truly has MS, Sony and their fanbase shaking in their boots.
The Revolution will present the newest controller ever produced on the video game market. It will have a library of 1000 games right off the bat (even the most un-enthusiastic "nostalgia-seeker" will like at least 10 games) and we also get to look forward to the most innovative interaction with games we have ever seen. And if you try and say that sony and MS are going to offer that just think of what Halo 3 will be. Yes, it will be ridiculous looking, but it really is just Halo with really good makeup. Your playing the same thing we've been playing since Goldeneye. - bleutuna, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Who would buy songs when you can download them on the internet for free?
Who would buy tv shows when you can download them on the internet for free?
Who would buy a DVD when I can download the movie on the internet for free?
Your point has already been invalidated by numerous other situations. People felt the same way about iTunes, and guess what - they were proven absolutely wrong. Same thing will happen with the Revolution service. The simple truth is that MANY people would rather play a videogame on their TV rather than with a keyboard on their computer. And they'd rather not deal with the 'troubles' of emulators, with their spotty sound and weird speed issues. You have been able to play NES/SNES/Genesis etc games on the Dreamcast for YEARS, but I'd still rather play it clean, without the problems emulators entail.
Plus, you're not even THINKING of the audience Nintendo is targeting - people who DON'T Play games right now for various reasons. For them, emulation is a completely unheard of concept, and the illegality of it makes it even less appealing.
People on the web need to realize because THEY don't want something doesn't mean the world doesn't want it. - Odweaver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Luddites we arn't, we are gamers. The shiney factor comes second to gameplay for us.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Only your mom cares about your blog.
- allarise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Not to underplay the fun-factor of Marble Blast Ultra or Geometry Wars, but XBLA is essentially fun Flash games off the net being ported to a console. Nothing wrong with that.
But to compare Bejeweld and Crystal Quest to Majora's Mask or Chrono Trigger is, to put it mildly, a losing task. - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Ok, I'm out of touch- according to you, but I don't respect your opinion at all. So no harm done.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11As long as they implement a solid control scheme for all these systems they plan on supporting and it is priced reasonably and on top of that has good support for backing up the games or at least storing them elsewhere than the maximum 512mb of the internal hard drive. (ram based)
Those who question why buy when you can get it for free online? Because you're breaking the law when you download games you don't own.. and it's not the same experience as playing with your friends in the living room when hunched over a loud computer in a dark room.
I'm happy they're supporting Sega, NES, SNES, N64 and PC Engine/Hudson games.. I can only hope they finalise more once the system is working and popular proving to those who own the rights that this is not a waste of time.. like many record labels said "iTunes would never work.. people like to be able to hold what they buy in their hands".
Rock on the return of classic games.. all those gems that are now preserved forever! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10PS. Of course it is a shame that some people will have paid $40 for these games 20 years ago.. and there will be a group of people who will need to buy them again.. but if it is worth replaying.. is it not worth buying it again?
I will gladly buy any game twice if it is for sale for the iTunes price point model (give or take because of bandwidth bills) if you are one of the minority who still have these games.. then break out your old system and play on that, just don't use the Revolution back catalog.
But you fail to see.. that this will benefit 1000s of people, who are too old, too young, or simply couldn't afford those systems when they were first released.
I really am hopeful that they are willing to sell digital copies of these games for single digit currency.. because I for one will definitely spend more money on these classics than the modern 'lets do another sequel' ideology that today's publishers have to new consoles.
This catalog is a great thing to a huge majority and of course a bummer to a minority who still have their cartridges.. just wait until you see the prices before you start whinging you already paid for this game once.
PPS. I remember playing Tetris 20 years ago, they just released Tetris DS and that seems to be doing mighty fine at a full price DS title.. so don't start going around saying people wont pay to play old games either. - Zukunft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10First controller with D-pad.
- gnuyen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Um sure. If you've bought a machine to copy that original cartridge to your computer maybe you have this right. You don't have the right to download someone elses copy and play it even if you own it. Betamax gave us personal copying only. Copying someone elses rom isn't personal. And if they arguably have some kind of DRM, you're breaking the law. Know your rights indeed.
- LouisC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'm 16 and I'd gladly buy, say Sonic 3, and my little 13 year old sister would love to have the old Super Mario Bros. games...
- Zukunft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The Revolution will have a cradle that the freehand controller will slide into that will work for Virtual console games and third party games if they see fit. The cradle will resemble a more traditional style controller like the Gamecube.
- MatttK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I think it is more likely because Nintendo has time and time again led the market with innovative stuff. Moreover, the DS blew everyone away with its success. We're all wondering if the Revolution could do the same. That's why I'm excited about Nintendo.
Well.. that and Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. - Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6How long until France sues Nintendo until their downloaded content can be played on any system???
- cheesegod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Anybody remember Sega Channel? Thst was the cool. If Nintendo offers a subscription base service for a reasonable price, then can count me in.
- melodic666, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6mirror:
http://www.ilounge.com.nyud.net:8090/index.php/news/comments/nintendo-building-video-game-version-of-itunes/ - Agret, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Turn the revolution controller sideways. Bam!
- exick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Don't we already have somehing like this called the xbox live marketplace?"
I'm not sure about "we", but yes Xbox Live Marketplace is similar in nature. It's also available only on Xbox or Xbox 360 to those people subscribed to Xbox Live. This is a service being run by Nintendo offered on their upcoming console, though they haven't announced yet whether you will have to subscribe to a service in order to have access to the downloads, so we'll just have to wait and see. Do you see now how the two are not quite the same? One is run by Microsoft, the other by Nintendo. I know that's a difficult concept to grasp. As for how similar the two services will be, something tells me you won't be playing any classic Nintendo games over Xbox Live anytime soon. - shultzy055, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Pwned
- pozzoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I wasn't planning to get a ps3 or an xbox360, I got a computer. It's already as powerfull as the xbox360 and when the ps3 comes I can always upgrade my cpu/gpu and let both ps3 and xbox360 in shame.
BUT, I *AM* considering to buy a revolution because of the controller. - mrgreen4242, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If I owned the cart why would I bother emulating it? Not to mention how expensive some of these games have become... Super Mario RPG is selling for $25-40 on eBay easily. I'm guessing this will the the cheaper alternative.
- lava, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6well, here's why I would buy the games. I'm very grateful to Nintendo for entertaining me all of these years, and I want to support the company. Yeah, I use emulators, but the experience is probably going to be better on the revolution. For example, playing Super Smash online with kaillera is awesome, but it's very buggy. I'll be able to play it more reliably on the console.
booya - danpsmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah because the NES wasn't innovative at all....
DEEEEEEEEEER - tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9There is something different, there Nintendo games.
- Zukunft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yes, we know. Just because it's been done before doesn't mean that it can't be done again and tweaked to reflect someone elses business model.
- exick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"Emulation is legal if you own the classic game that you're emulating. Know your rights, people. If you own the cartridge for Super Mario Bros. 3 for the NES, you'd be a fool to pay for the right to play this game again on different hardware. The law says you can already do this for free."
Most of us are well aware of our rights, but thanks for the lesson. If I can still play SMB 3 on my old NES hardware, there would be no reason for me to pay for and download the game, but what if I can't? Maybe I don't mind paying a couple bucks to be able to download and play the game on a console instead of my PC. The best part is, it's legal. Downloading a ROM from some site is a gray area at best.
Certainly you have the right to rip a ROM image from a game you own and play it on an emulator if you wish, but how many people do it that way? Not many. Most people find a ROM to download, which means someone somewhere has to be making one that they ripped themselves or downloaded from someone else available to the public. I guarantee that isn't legal and snagging it from them likely isn't either. - nstern2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What you are all missing here is the multiplayer part of the equation. Think of how fun it will be to play all of your old games over the Internet with a high score board and multiplayer action.
- mortal-god, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4... and Genesis games. But even more importantly I don't have to pay for Nintendo WiFi Connection!
- junkfood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I see a lot of people bagging on this idea, saying that ROMs are available. Yes, most of us know this. I have played dozens of ROMs, but they usually aren't perfect. Either the controls don't work well or the sound is a bit off. In one of the ROMs I had for Super Mario Bros you could use a joystick, but no matter how much I tried I couldn't do the squat-slide thing that was sometimes necessary. Or climbing walls in Ninja Gaiden was difficult.
If Nintendo gives me the ability to download games from them that I can play for the life of my Revolution, and makes them work as well as they did when they existed on the original consoles, well, I'm probably going to buy it.
The one sticking point is price. The games can't be more than about $5. I'd really like it cheaper, but I might be willing to buy in for $5. Oh, and I'd really like a coupon for 20 free game downloads when I buy the console. - j0keR, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Valve's already made a 'video game version' of iTunes, it's called Steam.
- WDot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wait, if it's a video game version of Itunes, does that mean we'll have lossy, DRM'ed games? I jest.
But it would be cool if a few free bucks for the Nintendo store shipped with every Revolution so we could try it out right off the bat. - c0nsumer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5You mean, they are developing a "video game version of the iTunes Music Store". If Nintendo was developing a video game version of 'iTunes, one would be able to 'rip' their current games in to the system and play them, along with any games they can download and copy in.
- j0keR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think Nintendo's should be a lot better too, though. It would be great if they could also find a way to (legally) transfer some of the games to a game cart for the DS or the next gameboy. Online functionality for old games, like what MS is planning for the 360 would be nice too.
- lo0ol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I was really interested by the final part:
"In a post-keynote interview with the Seattle Times, Iwata was asked for his thoughts on Apple. 'People think of Nintendo and Apple in similar fashion,' he responded, 'like we are always trying to think in terms of the customers. Apple tries to think of what's the best way for people to use Apple products. And if those customers are not using Apple products now, what are the barriers and how they can remove those barriers.'"
I always wondered about Apple-Nintento connections. For example, I thought it might be interesting to do a bit of an informal survey on Apple fans and if they use Nintendo products as well. There seems to be a distinct feeling of respect, for lack of a better word, that each company has in their followings.
It's also interesting to note that, as of recently, they're both at a cusp; they've been doing wildly well within their fan segment, but it remains to be seen on whether they can break through that smaller segment and carry it to bigger parts of the market. Take a look at Iwata's last sentence in what I quoted: "And if those customers are not using Apple products now, what are the barriers and how they can remove those barriers." He seems to realize this too. I think 2006-2007 will turn out to be hugely important years for both companies, so it's going to be fun to study how each company tries to succeed with their moves towards broader market appeal. - jamesob5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just bring back the "Power Pad" & "World Class Track Meet", and I'm good.
- lava, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3hahahaha.
This reminds me of an Entourage quote.
"Did you show it to anybody?"
"Me, my editor and my mother"
"What did your mother think?"
"She thought it was garbage, but she's a ***** moron" - farfromsubtl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This story STILL doesn't talk about the biggest news. Iwata said that ANY SIZE developer can contribute to the system. Which means, ANYONE can design a game for the revolutiuon. It's like the game developers version of podcasting.
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Umm you know there has been an open source game called beats of rage which has been ported to pretty much everything (PC, XBOX, PS2, PSP & more)
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I think there's only one simmilarity between Apple and Nintendo for why they are so well liked: They are the underdogs. People LOVE the underdog."
Uh, people loved Nintendo too when they had a blatent and almost unstoppable monopoly in the 80's, early 90's... - metacoola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, I just think its great that I can play some of those titles using a remote, I really enjoy some games on a keyboard but some...not so much.
- Zukunft, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You could always get both.
- Zukunft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, most likely it will be a golden disc. :P
- Progression, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Did Max Headroom write the subtitle (will BE BE awesome if implemented.) I kid,I kid. Seriously though, this is making the Revolution more appealing to an older gamer like myself that grew up with most of these titles. Now what will I do with all of my old emulator roms on my computer...did I just type that..crap.
- danpsmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yep, good idea that was ahead of its time, kind of like this one.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The fact that he DOES see the difference (and the submitter of this article doesn't) is why he posted his comment, you dolt.
- MrPens, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You know what would be nice. If you could download these games, nes, snes, n64, i also heard old sega games.Then be able to take them on the go also via some kind of portable device you could buy. Like a ds that can also play these downloaded games. Who knows maybe its this 3rd version of the ds i hear about. Anyway all this i just a thought.
- megashaun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What would be nice is to have a way of taking games you've purchased on your Revolution to a friend's house to play on his/hers. Perhaps a removeable memory card that would allow you to copy games to it, but not off it (this last point to keep the Big N in the pay-per-download business, which would only help further develop its quality of service.)
Just a thought. - kunit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1hmmm.. i don't know about this. iv'e been disappointed in nintendo for a few years and my friend is always backing up nintendo like they are the best or something and he and nintendo need to get their heads out of their asses
- TheGrizah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't think some of you realize that the people emulating things for free are quite possibly in a great minority. Nintendo will probably stand to make quite a few bucks with this service they're proposing.
I myself am too lazy to get into the emulation scene and what not so I think this is a kickass Idea from Nintendo. And I don't expect to be paying very much to get these emulated games. Plus I planned to get a "Revolution" from the second I saw the controller.
Plus Zelda TP coming out later this year although its a Gamecube game Nintendo has already confirmed that if played on the Revolution it will take advantage of the new Controller, so its practically a Launch Title for the revolution. Zelda at Revolution Launch? I think that will sell the console in and of itself. Since I'm sure there are a lot of people that have held out on getting a Nintendo console until their favorite titles are released for it such as Zelda/Mario. And now even with the Metroid series back, and of course the newer series of Super Smash Bros. -
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