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- twesterm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+43Wait wait wait, I'm confused here, people watch G4?
- twesterm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39I supposed EA grew half a brain and realized that with only 480k PS3's worldwide, they would only *begin* to make money off the game if nearly every PS3 owner bought the game twice.
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33I don't see how any game released on the PS3 at launch is going to make money. With less than a half million PS3's available for the first couple months it seems the developers are really going to eat the costs of making the games that they've been working on for 2+ years.
I feel really bad for the makers of Genji 2. Not only did it get ridiculed to no end for their demonstration at E3, the game has gotten a 6.4 review from Gamespot. - clinko, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31If instr("G4",ARGUMENT) > 0 then
SetLegitimacy(ARGUMENT, -10)
end if - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25This is actually a good thing for PS3 owners. NBA Live '07 is horrible. NBA 2k7 is much better.
- jonrad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21@clinko:
Looks like you have a small bug, it's suppose to be a while loop:
while instr("G4",ARGUMENT) > 0
SetLegitimacy(ARGUMENT, -10)
end while
Fixed - seanthebond, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Thats because G4 doesn't want to seem to "kiddy" by promoting Nintendo, so they would rather promote the "cooler" company, Sony.
They should just promote both of them. - swoosh_bnd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16That's great news for PS3 owners, it prevents them from spending a penny on the crap they liked to call "NBA Live 07".
- Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20I don't know...
1) Sony delayed original PS3 release date to November 2k6
2) Sony delayed PAL TV format areas release date to early 2007
3) Sony decreased the amount of systems to ship
4) Sony fails to release 3.0 firmware for PSP with the PS3 launch
5) Sony chooses BluRay as their format
6) Sony kills Lik-Sang
7) Sony loses the patent on the Dual-Shock
There are probably more, but they aren't coming to my mind right now. - incognit0, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16You're an idiot if you think this story was posted on kids blog, idiot. Sorry to burst your bubble ps3 fan boy, but your launch is not looking too stellar.
- Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21By all appearances the PS3 looks like it could be a bomb, but every news organization is hyping it to the max. G4 is doing a whole launch day special with nothing for the Wii. The developers are dropping support. Sony better get its act together.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13PoSsibly 3
- Kdog22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9This is not a bad thing..
Sony should actually promote this as a selling point.. - Stonedonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9How nice of them to link to the original article, so that I could verify this info...
And they even provide borrowed screenshots! How helpful.
The real article: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/744/744911p1.html - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11it's not hard it's just not worth it. nobody in Japan gives a crap about NBA and we in Europe don't exists.
so for them to make a profit on it they would need everyone in the USA with a PS3 to buy this game 4 or 5 times. - Husky217, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8http://ps3.ign.com/articles/744/744911p1.html
Not an official source from EA, but IGN is far from a kid's blog. - Dested, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14You know, in case the first one breaks.
- falstaff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6NBA Live 07 is only good for a year, then 08 has to come out. A non-NBA basketball game has a potentially longer lifespan. With reletively few systems available for 07, they're waiting another year. Also, presumably the gameplay will be different, fitting the audience better, and by not splitting the market with 2 basketball games, they can get more sales out of this product. It's a business decision, and it seems to make perfect sense.
- ryan7107, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5No big loss, the 2K series is a light years ahead of Live anyways.
- staticneuron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"I don't see how any game released on the PS3 at launch is going to make money. With less than a half million PS3's available for the first couple months it seems the developers are really going to eat the costs of making the games that they've been working on for 2+ years."
Yes and most devs consider selling over 200,000 coppies a success. The chances of that happening to these titles are the highest at launch time. - merdiesel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"We are concentrating our efforts on creating a spectacular NBA Street: Homecourt [instead of porting NBA Live 07]."
translation: "We are tired of getting our asses handed to us by Sega and their NBA2k series" - coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7My only complaint about the PS3 launch in the first place was too many damn sports games. I guess they're solving the problem for me, but I wish they'd replace these canceled ones with something else worth getting.
Also - Why does stuff like this make it to the front page immediately, but really interesting stuff about the system that people still don't have any idea about yet (as evidenced by many arguments I've seen) stay buried? That news about Yellow Dog Linux showing up on the PS3 in all it's glory (with all of it's packages) is some of the coolest news I've seen about PS3 recently, but I've had to get it elsewhere and the only place I've seen it is in "upcoming stories" by searching for PS3. - Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4In their defense, you really can't innovate sports games. Basketball is going to be Basketball no matter what. These games are supposed to be true to the current year. Now if they made a futuristic sports game, then you could see the innovation and creativity. This is why I don't play the sports games. The only changes you will get are the natural changes of graphics and players and teams. That's about it.
- TorRebe1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You are just not a sports fan then. Check NBA2K7 by 2KSports. Fight Night Rnd 3 by EASports. Even NHL 07 by EASports (although I'd rather play NHL2K7 myself).
- harreola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'd play the 2K series over EA any day.
- twesterm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+78) The launch numbers keep decreasing.
- SirPoonga, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hmmm, people are forgetting EA did the same thing with NHL 06 on the 360.
*Owns a 360 and really wanted NHL 06 instead of 2k6 at the time - staticneuron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2250K = 15 million
500k = 30 Million
800k = 68 million
1 million = 60 Million
The average PS2 game cost 8 million to make. The cost of the average PlayStation 3 game is expected to be around $15 million-$20 million, plus another $10 million or so for marketing.
The exception to this are the ports. Games that come across multiple systems to not take that much of a hit because there is only one marketing campaign for all three versions and most likely shared assets between the systems of comparable power. The launch games that cost in the highest range are still being released by large established companies which is more of a help than a boon. - RooDoG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3OH! I though this was NBA '07... No biggie then
- NikoKun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4lol, i was just at the gamestore, they still have adds and box art for this game all over... XD
- waterdrop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29. The Price
- vhold, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'm going to go out on a limb by saying Sony probably is giving them a lot of money for an exclusive special. There's no way an entertainment channel would give an entire day of free advertising.
- harreola, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Most people have trouble reading the article, or are just filtering out what they don't want to hear. In case you're one of them, this is for you:
"We are concentrating our efforts on creating a spectacular NBA Street: Homecourt [instead of porting NBA Live 07]."
In other words, they're not just going to port it over, they're going to create another game instead. I didn't get from the article that that new game is not going to be for the PS3. I don't know where you all got the, "nail in the coffin for Sony" or "Sony's losing developers" bit from that. Ignorance, denial, spite, or whatever. Just drop it already and stop whining like little babies because believe it or not, it's gotten old. Either save up your money for all the systems and get all the best games from each console or just get one or two consoles and get the best games from that. If it were up to me, I'd get all 3 consoles, but I just don't feel like forking over cash to play online. The more you whine, the more it shows how much of a crying pussy you are. And to those that say, "you're whining right now" take note that I'm not whining about the console price or brand, but of how childish Digg.com's comments in the Gaming topics have gotten.
These biased comments show how truly ignorant people are. And if you reply with "you're comment was biased" then it shows how much you're avoiding the fact that they ARE biased. And if it makes you feel good about yourself talking smack on consoles, then you truly aren't a gamer. - ReCkLeSsX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Horrible game, absolutely no loss, here.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+14"Could this be the nail in Sony's coffin?"
There are so many nails in Sony's coffin that thousands of years from now mutant trolls will be raiding their gravesite to create feeble swords and spears for attacking the giant crab race. Much like in the authentic historical Japanese battles. - yasth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You have to be careful about cost to make because the cost to make is half or less the total cost to produce the actual gold disc (You need some ad buys, PR spinners to manage reviews, there are production start up costs, etc)
Also IIRC royalties on a title decrease with volume (i.e. if you do very well you pay less per unit), keep in mind too that in addition to royalties to Sony to make the game you generally have decreasing royalties to tool and engine providers.
Oh and if you only sell 250k a lot of your "sales" will be at steep that make little or no money.
Game companies produce launch titles because while the economics might not be conducive to making lots of money, well it is better to get the practice out of the way at launch where a mediocre game will do well then when it will be swamped by everybodies second efforts. - swifty12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2if it said NBA Live series cancelled for PS3 than that would be big news. By 2007 they will have Live '08 and basketball fans can play NBA homecourt till then.
- vhold, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"In their defense, you really can't innovate sports games."
Erm. That would explain why Madden 07 plays exactly like Atari 2600 Football. - cds0528, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2How do we know this is accurate? this site obviously is not run by Sony. It looks like just a bunch of fans who bought a domain, threw up a wordpress blog, and started posting stuff about the PS3 (check out the full blog). They figured it'd be funny if they threw up a fake story and got dugg. How come none of the main news sites have this?
- twesterm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sony's a long way from being bought out. Even if Nintendo were to fail with the Wii, they would still have plenty of money to fail another 13 consoles (and that number was before the DS turned mega-huge).
- EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ts n/m
- twesterm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, at time of posting, 443 people give a *****.
- theoristbj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Cancelled? Good. Live 07 was horrible anyways. Go 2K!
- twesterm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The reason to make a launch title is because there aren't a lot of other options for games and there is reasonable hype. When someone buys a console, of course their going to buy a game. When there are only 20 or so games to choose from, you have a good chance of getting your game bought even if it's second rate.
The problem with the PS3 is that there just aren't enough of them. With the 360, there were over 1million sold by 2006 and the Wii plans to have 4million by 2007. With the PS3, they're going to be lucky to get to the 6-700k mark. In this case, even a good launch title is going to lose money. By the time March rolls around and the PS3 finally starts getting decent numbers, all of those launch titles will have been nearly forgot ton and dropped in price.
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And on a completely different note, Atari is in the dictionary, when will they put the Wii in so the spell checker will stop telling me I misspelled it. - uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wasn't this one of the two demo games at the New York Digital Life show?
- r81984, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder who is going to buy Sony out when they can not longer pay their bills??
Toshiba??
*****??
Philips??
SANYO??
If they split up the company maybe and sell their pc and gaming divisions:
Apple???
Microsoft??? - ironyinc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Um... Sony isn't going to go out of business even if the PS3 is a flop. They have their hands in every facet of electronics and have a movie production company. This may knock them down a few pegs, but it'll take a lot more than the PS3 to take all of Sony down.
- twesterm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You can innovate sports games and you're attitude is the reason why people don't try. Luckily, Nintendo is at least trying with Madden, though I'm still leaning towards probably not great.
Anyways, at least with the NCAA titles every now and then they add a new playmode or feature that becomes a staple. Believe or not, that's innovation. - Import98, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not a huge loss. I don't see NBA Live games as a system seller. If other games start getting canceled, then Sony will have something to worry about.
- Keitosha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1EAt my SHORTS! It's in the game.......
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