- gronne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+372008?
- dtd00d, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29Uhm... Linux? 2007?
If we can get a stable Linux build on Zune we don't need to wait till 2008 for Zune games.
Or unlimited wifi transfers... - PimpinOnWelfare, on 10/12/2007, -12/+47The question is does anyone really care?
- CanceledCzech, on 10/12/2007, -25/+3Hooray, who cares? And what is with the statement "Uhm... Linux? 2007?"? Are you saying that linux is going to support games in 2007?
- bowels, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34I've made a note to myself on my 2008 calendar: "Play games on Zune." This way I won't forget.
- dtd00d, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2@CanceledCzech: Very yes?
- mc7winkie, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3I think when they say games they're going to have something a little more advanced then those little time wasters on your ipod.
- Software2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8If I could take my 360 profile and play live arcade games and get achievements, I'd be all over the Zune.
- Bartboy919, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3They say BY, this is just a safety net so it they don't come out with it in 07 no one bitches
- gxcdesign, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5That's if they still make them by then rofl
- zonk3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+42008 = 2 little 2 late.
- aerogant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How well it does will really depend on what the price will be, and how much consumers are willing to pay for each of its features versus it's competitors price per feature set.
- Rileyper, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12008
AHHH but thats too long
- dtd00d, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29Uhm... Linux? 2007?
- Mindris, on 10/12/2007, -56/+11ZUNE SUCKS
- gronne, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32Take your pills.
- foxhaze, on 10/12/2007, -9/+9We know iPod is cool, but seriously...
- AlanKc, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4Im gonna get a Zune... Cant wait. Whats so bad about the Zune again?
Oh Thats right, you cant beat Apples 2 year contract! - CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8The ipod is the only apple product with games people bother playing. Actually, i've never seen anyone play a game on their ipod. Scratch that.
- nayr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7What can Zune offer that the ipod can't do?
First off, the Zune can't work with my mac.
Second it doesn't work with iTunes, which is THE most superior music player on the mac (Songbird is getting there, but there are still a LOT of problems.)
Third, I find the iPod easier to use. More fluid.
Fourth, worse battery life.
Fifth, it doesn't work with any of the 'plays for sure' music.
Sixth, noone has one, so the 'welcome to the social' becomes 'welcome.... to the middle of nowhere.' - Anubis2051, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16@ nayr
"What can Zune offer that the ipod can't do?
First off, the Zune can't work with my mac.
Second it doesn't work with iTunes, which is THE most superior music player on the mac (Songbird is getting there, but there are still a LOT of problems.)
Third, I find the iPod easier to use. More fluid.
Fourth, worse battery life.
Fifth, it doesn't work with any of the 'plays for sure' music.
Sixth, noone has one, so the 'welcome to the social' becomes 'welcome.... to the middle of nowhere.'"
First off, the Zune can play radio, transfer songs, has a wider screen, can play more formats, and has a subscription service that allows me to download as many songs as I want. And now it can play games (and its pretty obvious that they don't mean "parachute jump", they mean halo and the like.) Thats a lot that your iPod can't do.
Second, Who the hell cares that it doesn't work with iTunes? The music on iTunes is crap quality, and support for the mac is coming.
Third, Thats your opinion, I think that the Zune has a much nicer interface, and is much cleaner then the iPod. It also looks nicer if you ask me.
Fourth, Battery life isn't that bad so long as you turn of the wi-fi
Fifth, neither does the iPod or iTunes, kinda contradicting yourself, huh?
Sixth, I know quite a few people who have Zunes, and they all like it better then the iPod.
Hows that for you? - nayr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Why thank you, that was excellent.
I must disagree with the itunes thing; I rip all my music in lossless format. The itunes store does have crap quality, I'll give you that.
To each their own player :) - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1The AAC format delivers better sound quality at 128 kbps than any other format, hands down. And Zune is "cleaner" than the iPod? I think you meant slicker – it is pretty flashy. But the graphics are too pixelated and the screen too cheap. I'm waiting for the iPhone.
- Mindris, on 10/12/2007, -39/+1PILLS ARE FOR PEOPLE WITH ZUNES
- kcpwnsgman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22PILLS ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO WHO CAN'T TALK LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, OH *****, LOOKS LIKE I NEED TO TAKE MY PILLS NOW
- Cripple87, on 10/12/2007, -16/+16
I think the Zune is alot better then ipods, it offers more and its different. I would love to get one, but im going to wait for the second generation for more funtionality. maybe XBLA games, web browser, touch screen? that would be cool- phprock, on 10/12/2007, -27/+32iphone > zune
- Retuow, on 10/12/2007, -18/+8Web-browser, touchscreen?? Take a look at Digg's frontpage to see what you're looking for: iPhone.
I'm not at all a great fan of Apple (use Windows, got a Creative MP3 player, Sony PSP), but this new phone is the must have gadget I think. - gronne, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Why do people keep making it sound like the Zune and iPhone are competing products? They're not! Windows Mobile Smart Phones and BlackBerry's are competing products.
The iPhone is smart-phone that costs $599 and you have to sign a 2 year contract with Cingular to get it. The Zune is a portable media player for $249. Its competitor is the 5.5 gen iPod not the iPhone! - lacronicus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13really, for 599, i could get myself... hey wait, thats as much as a... a ps3. WTF? NO WAI! oh my god, this is just stupid. people bash the ps3 for being overpriced. at least its within double the preice of its direct competition. geez.
- Braxo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Or, instead of the $599 iPhone, I could get a Blackberry: $200, a iPod: $250 and a digital camera: $250
- AZTriGuy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3@braxo
Check your math, you went over $100... :)
But, I get your point and agree with you. Multi-function devices are good to a point. Rather than doing each thing very well like the separate devices can do, they do a lot of different things just good enough to get by. In six months when this phone comes out, I'll be keeping my Treo and iPod 30GB combination. - kcpwnsgman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3@Retuow
I am not paying $600 for the iPhone, when all I want is a media/game player, not a computer, so thats where they can cut a lot of money out of the cost. - zip22, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5it doesn't offer more 640x480 video resolution output, gapless, lossless, ums, storage capacity, pocket space, games (!), contacts, calender, clock, alarm, video content, or lossless.
it does offer more screen space, a subscription option, FM, and a very nice UI, but overall it is not better. - broomett, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2phprock...if you mean price, then yes, you are right.
- Bartboy919, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3@ braxo
Its an not a
I would buy an iPod
I would buy a iPod
Atleast your not saying "I would buy iPod" like other ignorant morons - minimacalbertu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1More? you mean the play-3-times-or-3-days-then-you-must-buy-it wifi transfer function, or the Zune software crush more then iTune?
Zune got a bigger screen & maybe longer battery life, I'll give you that. - nayr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3See, the difference between apple and microsoft is that apple can get people DROOLING over their $600 device, whereas microsoft is struggling to sell their zune at half the price.
And these two products ARE in competition with each other; people will see the iPhone as the iPod, and therefore the iphone competes with the zune. - goblindegook, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Bartboy919: "Its an not a [...] Atleast your not saying "I would buy iPod" like other ignorant morons"
Yeah, you show him, Webster. - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Why do people keep making it sound like the Zune and iPhone are competing products?"
It's about functionality, the size and the form factor. When you hold the Zune and the iPhone up next to each other they look pretty similar – except one does more than just play music.
- OBDriftwood, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Great games like the Mexican hat dance, musical chairs, and the hokey pokey.
- sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/12/2007, -15/+10In a related story upon hearing the news of gaming on the Zune Steve Jobs was hospitalized with a case of uncontrollable laughter.
- matrox212, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11Wow the Apple trolls sure are all jacked up today. Pills may help but I don't think you can really get yourself a life from just a pill.
Anybody who has ACTUALLY has used a Zune would know that it's interface is much more suited for gameplay with it's 4-way controls rather than a scroll wheel. - sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6I am not a Apple troll I actually do own a Zune. But M$ is going to have to come up with something better than that to keep me from putting it up on eBay this June.
- lacronicus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10a zune user who says M$. ive gotta call bs on that one.
- sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6Listen I own a Zune and a Xbox 360 that doesn't mean that I can be critical of "M$", until today I use to tried to defend the Zune on digg because its hardware stacked up so well up against the iPod, and I prefer subscription based music downloads. But with the pending release of this iPhone the Zune looks beat, maybe they can pull something great out of there ass I don't know. See lacronicus I am a true non-fanboy I just calls 'em how I sees 'em.
- broomett, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2How does the Zune look beat liar. (Yes, you are lying.) The Zune WINS due to the iPhone. Becuase every iPhone sold (which really won't be as many as pwathetic Apple fanboys like you htnk) is an iPod not sold. And therefore, without increasing their sales at all, the Zune's marketshare INCREASES. The iPhone is NOT part of the MP3 player market.
So now, Microsoft (and seriously...only the most PATHETIC Apple fanboys still use the myspace level maturity level $ thing anymore) can use that higher market share in marketing campaigns, and to give htem levereage with dealers. - Bartboy919, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@sideshow
You also must remember that engadget said in addition to the Zune, Microsoft said a Zune phone was in the works
@broomett
I had never realy though of it that way, then again It would be crazy not to update the current iPod line in the future - sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@ broomett
Fist of all I use the "M$" for Microsoft because it really strikes of never with assholes like you, second and for the last time I am not an Apple fanboy I own 3 PCs and 1 Macbook, and the fact that you can say with straight face that the release of the iPhone isn't bad but even good for the Zune shows that your a M$ fanboy/Apple hatter, you like allot of the people here feel the need to be loyal to a company for some reason I don't I have absolutely no stock in whether the iPhone or the Zune is successful I was just giving an objective opinion which i thought was the whole point of the comments.
@Bartboy919
Your right so hopefully the Zune phone will be coming soon because competition is always good for consumers.
- matrox212, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11Wow the Apple trolls sure are all jacked up today. Pills may help but I don't think you can really get yourself a life from just a pill.
- cjmac87, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0if it really is 2008, those games better be pretty damn good. otherwiese, why bother.... but the zune actually is pretty good, im just waiting for vidoes on the marketplace
- braineater2448, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2Lame. Buy an Apple iPhone or iPod. Games are so last year. Not 2008.
- Tyrax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"Games are so last year"
Spoken like a true Mac user - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Lame. Buy an Apple iPhone or iPod. Games are so last year. Not 2008."
iPhone: twice the price, 1/5th the storage.
iPod: tiny screen for the same price.
No thanks.
- Tyrax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"Games are so last year"
- diulei, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3I think the Zune just fell into oblivion today. Around 9:30AM PST.
- diggstar, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Who is going to confirm that the Zune will still be around in '08.....Bueller...Bueller?
- MarcLiron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3...of course the ZUNE will still be here in 2008, but not in its gen 1 format.... Just like the iPod matured so will the ZUNE.
- eboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32008? why does it take a year in a half to put stupid games on this lame ass device....pc trolls should see that MS wants to squeeze your skinny asses as much as Apple does...but at least Apple wraps it in a pretty bow...give me the iphone....running osx?? os yes!!!!
- AZTriGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I really hope they meant to say 2007, 18 months is an eternity to wait in this gadget age. My bet is that the Zune will be gone by 2008 if there isn't something really driving it in it's next update.
- broomett, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Ooooh! He GUESSES the Zune will be gone! Everybody make note! A ***** janitor at a bus station is giving his expert knowledge on the MP3 player market!
I guess it is time to point out again that the Zune has a simialr market share than the Mac!
I guess Macs won't be around in 2008. - AZTriGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ex-*****-cuse me? Janitor at a bus station? What the ***** are you talking about, asshat?
- broomett, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Ooooh! He GUESSES the Zune will be gone! Everybody make note! A ***** janitor at a bus station is giving his expert knowledge on the MP3 player market!
- allyant, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3They have no market now, ipod has/still/will always completely dominates the market.
I know many people with a Ipod and i know no one with a Zune.- Mapeki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Are you basing the MP3 player market off your what your friends have? I hope you have a lot of friends...
- Mapeki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Are you basing the MP3 player market off your what your friends have? I hope you have a lot of friends...
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Just in time for the 2nd generation iPhone.
- cyphin6, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"icrosoft"
- PabloMac, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7What's a Zune?
- broomett, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3The Zune is a device with a similar market share after 8 weeks than the Mac has after 25 years.
Any otherquestions, or are you thoroughly humiliated alreay.
Let me repeat that. After just 2 months, the Zune has the same market share in the MP3 market as Macs do in the computer market.
Who is the loser there? - dpcdomino, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2rebranded Gigabeat that already failed once?
- AICkieran, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0@broomett
Well done, you've made the single most idiotic post of the day.
Guess what? You're comparing apples and oranges dude.
How exactly does one compare marketshare of products in ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ***** MARKETS?
I personally own neither a zune or an iPod. i own 2 PC desktop's, a pc laptop and a mac(albeit a PPC mac) so i'm by no means a fan boy, but you are a tit.
- broomett, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3The Zune is a device with a similar market share after 8 weeks than the Mac has after 25 years.
- RiemannLebesgue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That seems like an extremely long time for MS to get in on the action.
- broomett, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Kind of like waiting until 2007 to get into the cell phone market, you ***** idiot?
- PabloMac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3broomett, where is Microsoft's mobile phone?
- dpcdomino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4oooh...just what I have been waiting for.
A music player with Spider Solitaire and Mine Sweeper!!! - mlock2k, on 10/12/2007, -10/+8you ipod folks are just too crazy
Zune will live forever
you all need to get an ilife to go with your iphone and listen to it on your itunes while you love up your ivagina
the zune is for people who like to actually leave moms house- thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4That's gotta be one of the best quotes on this page.
"you all need to get an ilife to go with your iphone and listen to it on your itunes while you love up your ivagina" - minimacalbertu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Why can we get along?
- thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4That's gotta be one of the best quotes on this page.
- minimacalbertu, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2By Micro$oft practice, it most likely mean 2013.
- BentCorner, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5What's a Zune?
- Scott2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2wow, thats a long way off.
- DanManIt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0What's the point if it is gonna take them that long. By then the iPod will have a more important feature that the Zune will need to copy off of to keep with the competition.
- jeffgtr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is probably what the zune will be good for, games. Microsoft doesn't get music, they do get games though, I'll give them that.
- hawkeyes0380, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2LOL at the apple lovers, Microsoft will win again and now they are going open source, just like my firefox browser, Apple lost the Mac because the tried to monopolize the PC, and Microsoft opened the playing field up and prospered, looks like it is happening all over again for Apple. But at least Steve JObs screwed his shareholders with his options scam.
- unununium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, it's not like Apple is insanely profitable or anything.
- weslobombs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1YOU ***** IGNORANT DUMBASS HE WASNT INVOLVED IN THE OPTIONS SCAM.
and i hope you were being sarcastic about apple being profitable.
my god i cant believe how ***** retarded you ***** microshaft fanboys are.
you cant look at the facts, the pc industry didnt "prosper" because "microsoft opened it up". it just allowed microsoft to make the *****, cheapest software around to run on crappier quality computers.
zunes are ***** peices of *****, get over it
- paco505, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I don't think that Apple would let that other companies grab the place that could be left empty by the 30 and 80GB iPods. People with music libraries that are bigger than the 8GB capacity of the iPhone probably would think about another player for an upgrade. And with more memory is more space to fill your ipod whit songs, tv shows and movies from iTunes (and that's good for Apple).
- Wolfboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+42008? Not Zune enough...
- kermithefrog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1you know.. niggaz gotta keep up
- etx313, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I bet the majority of Zune bashers haven't even seen or used one. They are awsome, and I can't wait to pick one up.
- biggerpicture, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Just got my Zune on payday 2 weeks ago. Love it. I don't touch my nano anymore. The iHype stop working on me after the Zune.
- moudig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1But who cares?
- DreadPirateWes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well really...could it be any worse than the iPod games? The control scheme is so horrible with that thing...I'd hate to see what an Apple console would look like.
- MastaB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0it would look like as aluminum Gamecube, play cell phone games, and cost as much as a PS3
- gerkin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Hmmm notice that all the hubbub about the Zune has died down alot? Doesn't seem like it's the 'iPod killer' any longer. Good try guys, but 2008 == too late to get features that were cool in 2006. By 2008 who knows what the competition will be providing .. and Yes folks, get over it ... the Zune is competing with the iPhone (it being the latest in the iPod line to be introduced). For everyone whining saying that they are not even the same thing, all I can say is ... touché
- weslobombs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008 PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
SO PATHETIC!!1
"hoff hoff eh we can play in the big leagues too see? we have games just like the ipod!! ...... just wait a year.... and a half.... "
THE ZUNE ONLY HAS LIKE 4 ***** BUTTONS!!!!! THAT WONT BE FUN AT ALL!!!
ZUNE IS OFFICIALLY DEAD!!!! 2 PERCENT MARKET SHARE!!!! LMMFAO ROTFFL JEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST- Rileyper, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1uh wtf is wrong with you weslobombs
- squink, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1***** That Microsoft just make a portable Halo system call it PHGS.
- bjizzlebj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0from the looks of it you will be able to play halo on the zune. it's not just going to be stupid solitaire games. And although the zune has some kinks to work out i prefer it over the ipod.
- bjizzlebj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/microsoft-confirms-zune-will-play-games-by-july-2008/
this shows what it will look like


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