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- geuisteses, on 10/12/2007, -39/+117Ok, so here's the facts as I understand:
1) Probably a young guy since he's playing WoW so much. Just statistically speaking, he's probably in his 20-30s, however he could be older too.
2) He doesn't have to work because he is "financially independent". Rich, or rich family? Likely something.
3) He gave out his credit card information via an email. Doesn't know what "phishing" is.
4) Since he has lots of money, tracks down the person he *suspects* scammed him.
5) Gloats over sending a man(or woman) to prison and taking all of their money?
So, to summarize, this guy is 99% one of those complete ***** SOBs who grew up with a silver spoon grafted to their ass. He has always had everything given to him, and it has let him grow up from being a pretentious snot of a kid to a complete pretentious jerk of an adult. Whether or not he has a social life outside of WoW doesn't matter. If he's dating and/or married, his girl(or boy) must either be a complete ***** themselves, or either so spineless and weak that a feminist should assassinate her to per her our of her misery.
Our dear SOB is also a complete dumbass. You gave out your credit card info online?? Are you a complete idiot? OBVIOUSLY. Sorry, I shouldn't ask rhetorical questions.
This is the kind of guy we should stuff into a big missile shell and drop on Baghdad. At least then he would be doing all of us some good. - KiriA500, on 10/12/2007, -4/+43He basically said "I live with my parents and they pay for my WoW time card every 2 months."
- dankoleary, on 10/12/2007, -18/+57Dude jump off the soapbox. If WOW didn't exist, it would be TV, gambling, xbox - you name it. This dude has a case, and will most likely recover a substantial amount of money from the defendant.
- Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27How do you kill that which has no life?
- rusty075, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Am I the only one who sees the humor in using an obscure Lord of the Rings reference to describe how geeky WoW players are? I'm not sure who's the pot and who's the kettle here.
- icetigaurus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19This doesn't really make sense to me. If this was a phisher out to steal credit cards and get wow account information, he would have been able to make a decent amount of money by selling the account (and especially this character) so why would he just get rid of that potential money (which is what phishers are after) and delete the character?
Seems very fishy, but also very un-phishy to me. - tsammons, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17He has little to no case. The characters in the game are not his property, but rather Blizzard's. From the EULA that he agreed to upon installing and playing the game (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/eula.html):
A. All title, ownership rights and intellectual property rights in and to the Game and all copies thereof (including without limitation any titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialog, catch phrases, locations, concepts, artwork, character inventories, structural or landscape designs, animations, sounds, musical compositions and recordings, audio-visual effects, storylines, character likenesses, methods of operation, moral rights, and any related documentation) are owned or licensed by Blizzard.
He should be suing Blizzard for letting him invest 286 days of his life into a game with no compensation. - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -12/+28Why don't you just tell that to everyone. There is pretty much nothing that "one day won't even exist". What are "real memories with man" anyways? And why are they better than what he's been doing?
- Wabem, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17My Favorite Quote
"I am a man who is not concerned with money (which is why I play World of Warcraft all day), so I found an Investigative Research firm to locate the one who sent me this e-mail!" - mariowario, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16dude all i can say is gg
- catchneyez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Deadbaby, (wow that's a really screwed up name) maybe you missed the point. The guy was phishing credit card numbers. That is a real crime and should be dealt with by the legal system. Stealing money or anything that someone has spent a lot of time and money on is one of the sorriest things a person can do, and whoever is responsible should have every penny he has taken away from him.
- KiriA500, on 10/12/2007, -29/+43How the hell could you possibly put that much time on a single character in WoW? The game already has nothing to do aside from "Level to 60" and "Learn to play this game multiplayer like every other MMORPG at level 10."
Having his character be deleted is a godsend. "Get a ***** life." - mjenkins, on 11/11/2007, -1/+15"People get to lvl 60 in 6-10 days."
Clearly I'm not a power gamer because it took me months to get to 60. Then again, I only played at night.
Phishers need to be in jail and so the proper authorities should be given the evidence to pursue the phisher but I think the guy is a dumb ass for responding to a phisher (and for not knowing what phishing is in the first place), for expecting WoW to restore his character (they've said from day one they wouldn't do that), and for expecting a court to force the phisher to compensate him. How many emails from Blizzard did this guy get that specifically told him Blizzard would never contact an player about their account or credit card information? I know when I played I got them all the time.
If someone has stolen my account info and credit card number, I'd call all my credit card companies, put a fraud alert on my credit report and protect my identity in every conceivable way. All this guy cared about was getting his character back.
I'm digging this article not because I'm so sorry for him or that I'm so impressed by how he's getting back at the phisher but because the guy is such an idiot that I found it funny. - brunson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13@deadbaby
You're right, it's a game. So is Football, Baseball, Hockey, Basketball, Pool and Poker. Yet people choose to devote their lives to these games and a lot of people make their living playing them. Stop telling people what's important to them. Many people might think your life is a waste of time. - docparadox, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16no thread about wow is complete until the "omg why waste ur time on it it's not REAL!" guy weighs in. what makes digg any more "real" than wow? not a damn thing -- it's all virtual data on a server that's owned by a company just as likely to go poof as Blizzard.
- OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12As someone who has played WoW on and off for a year or two I can understand how pissed he would be after spending so much time to build and gear his char. If It happened to me I would be pissed too. If I know who did it, i would probably sue just due to the fact I am pissed off at the guy. And he did spend a retarded amount of time playing the game. Weather or not its a good use of time is irelivent, its what he spent his time on, and he had his time stolen.
- dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16Hmm, what if I wasted several years on creating an intricate railroad system model out of paper. He recrates several dozen trains, trainstations, buildings, elaborately paints it. Then one day a guy comes along and things, "hey great an enormous pile of recyclable paper". He tears it apart, stuffs it in recycling bags, stomps his foot on it to press it in real deep and sells it for 10 cents a kilo.
I'd use whatever means at my disposal, probably some outside the legal avenues available to me, to vent my intense, searing existential pain on the guy who did it. The very idea is unacceptable. - Peynis, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16@geuisteses:
how does it matter if he's rich or not?
the one who deleted his account is an *****, not him...well, he could still be an *****, but who knows...anyway, even if he doesn't NEED the money, he wants the person who deleted his account to get his punishment...there's nothing wrong about that... - Leo21k, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19This guy spent a lot of time on this WoW character and time equals money. He should be able to sue for the deletion of his character.
- orbit1979, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14The funny thing is, this guy is catching criticism for spending hours a day of his life playing games i.e. something he enjoys, by people who for the most part spend hours of their day working at a job they absolutely hate making someone else rich. I hardly call this making memories. So with that in mind, who is the real sucker?
Is this man playing video games all day any dam different than the millions of people who spend hours rotting in front of the idiot box watching sports i.e. watching others pursue their dreams and get rich of your patronage?
I think not. - Klarth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It's good that when this happened he didn't give up on the world.
Of Warcraft. - quentinmcalmott, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8teamgwho: "the character could be considered property."
According to the WoW terms of use ( http://worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html ), all characters, items, and user accounts are owned by Blizzard, not the person who plays them. - Unrefined, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8In conclusion they should start a TV Ad campaign,"Drugs. My Anti-WoW."
- stupidverizon, on 10/12/2007, -15/+23Stop telling people how to live their lifes. But I agree, I dont see what he could do for so long....I'm certain its bs because of that. 286 days is a lot. People get to lvl 60 in 6-10 days.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Sounds fake...investigative research firm? teh best in the eastern United States FTW!! He stole my credit card but all I care about is my WOW account! right...
- Tbab, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Keep in mind that his character was probably worth at least $1000, bare minimum. About 11 months ago I sold my WoW character, 60 Warrior geared for DPS (it was amazing I tell you), but it was by no means even close to the level of gear this guy has on his Warlock, and I sold mine for $325 (making back everything I spent on the game, sans Time). He at least has the right to get a sizable chunk of money just to cover that.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -14/+21If people want to waste their lives playing WoW that's fine with me but when they start to burden our legal system I get angry. It's a GAME.
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Turns out, on December 23rd 2006 I received an e-mail asking me to “update my credit card information.” Which seemed to fit perfectly considering I just got a new credit card!"
And Blizzard would know that you got a new credit card how? This is the sort of reality that people need to come to grips with, not whether or not some structure that fits the nebulous concept of "god" exists.
>"I will be suing for the 286 days of life this man stole from me"
That's an interesting way to describe the theft. I don't think most people describe things that got stolen in terms of the number of days it took to get them. Additionally, if I spent x amount of time and have y amount of goods, the experience I've gained may allow me to rebuild faster than the first time around, especially in situations like these. It's not like he gave the guy amnesia or something, or even that his fun playing the game is a direct function of this happening to him. - robpohlman, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14There's a lot more in WoW than just leveling to 60, most of the game happens at 60. It's called end-game content.
- compaqdrew, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@ geuisteses
It doesn't matter whether you think in your superior opinion that it was a valid use of his time or not.
He spent his time, and it got stolen from him. He should get it back.
That goes for Mother Theresa, Hitler, and everybody inbetween. Justice for everybody, not just people that spend their time on the same things we think are valid. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6i'm sure the legal department will be more than happy to get his password and any gold/equipment back as soon as he serves them a summons, otherwise they'll just tell him to blow smoke.
- roadies, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@dagonweb: What the hell? You must really like your paper trains dude.
- blanktarget, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7That is a long time to play, but then I see my roommate leave his room maybe once every few weeks, other than that he's playing wow or at work. If that's how they want to spend their life let them. Honestly what's the difference between playing wow constantly or splitting that time up among a bunch of video games. As long as he's not hurting someone else and wants to live that way I say let him. As for suing, I think he has a case, although I don't know how much you could get out of that.
- josephblanx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Its not a game, it's an MMORPG artard. Look, I can wave to this guy.
- TheSevenDuffs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6He actually fell for a phishing scam. After all the ***** you hear on TV and basically everywhere else not to give information to emails. So not only does he play WoW all day, but he's also a ***** dumb *****
- palos99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This sounds fake. In the event something like this happens blizzard will restore your account back to the way it was previous to you getting "hacked". In fact, there is apparently a certain number of restores per account you can get. If you accidentally delete your items/char/whatever simply open a ticket and within a few days it will be restored.
I know a couple people this happened to recently (they were stupid and clicked on some porn link and ended up installing a keylogger...) and although it took about a week their accounts were restored just fine including all the gold/items that had been offloaded/etc. - TheFoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4GMs can restore deleted characters. This man is making much ado about nothing.
- Charmed86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3First of all email 101 tells you never to open an email if you have no clue who sent it to you so that is his fault and second of all this is the kind of stupid thing that makes our legal system a joke. Come on ""I will be suing for the 286 days of life this man stole from me," Its a damn game no matter which way you put it, phrase it, or cry about it, and that is definitely not your life.
- Rikkochet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5How choked would anyone be, seriously, if hundreds of thousands of inane, stupid comments were magically deleted one day?
On the flip side, Blizzard DOES keep backups... Funny that they're not willing to stretch their ***** policies for this guy if his story is true. - lunasunshine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have spent more time than this man did in WOW.
I am also a pharmacist.
What were you saying about bettering society?
Don't open your hole if you don't know that of which you speak. - bloodwings, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3he didn't really lose any money to phishing. he lost a player and an account that he didn't own, but he didn't really lose any money, so there's not much he can sue for. time spent in a video game is not really an investment protected by law. he didn't lose 286 days because he still used them. he doesn't own his characters, he doesnt own his account, blizzard does, so nothing was stolen. people lose actual money to phishing and have a hard enough time trying to get it back.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Exactly. As far as I'm concerned, this jerk deserved it for a) being a loser who admits to playing WoW ALL DAY LONG (yes people, it is pathetic, no matter how much you whine and cry about "OMG LET HIM LIVE HIS LIFE HOW HE WANTS"... that's not a life), b) being a rich snob who brags about all his money, and c) somehow, in the year 2006, not knowing what phishing is.. like there haven't been 5,000 articles, news reports and general Internet gab on the subject. There is no excuse for someone who spends that much time online to not know what phishing is.
What a complete waste of skin. - dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4***** Sapiens, "us" we all have this deeply agressive instinct hardwired in our brains in that most of us, especially groups of us, cannot accept when a human or small group of humans does something peculiar. We automaticaly become defensive, and investigate the exentrics - more often than not our suspicions ending in acute witch hunts. Humanity does not accept people who elect alternative choices and will do anything and everything to eradicate alternatives. Look at China and falung gong. Look at the US at atheists. Look at the middle east and homosexuals. Centuries of persecution and torture.
I think this instinct contributing something to unifying the species as a communal entity, but holy *****, at what cost in misery and blood? - blanktarget, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3$500 or more maybe. I sold an account and it had tier 1 epics for $200. In any case he is being a bit childish with the whole, "Seeing this man sentenced to years in prison, and me getting all of his life time savings (plus everything he will ever make in the future)" line. I'm sure he could recover damages but when you sue someone it's about getting you back to the position you would be at if the act had never happened. Basically he'll most likely get what would be an estimate sum of money for his time + the actual $15 a month he paid. Really though it won't be nearly as much as he seems to think he's worth.
- DannyBoy7783, on 10/12/2007, -3/+61. Don't judge the guy. It's not your job.
2. He probably called the cc company to have his card canceled to prevent the phisher from using it.
3. His case about his WoW character is sort of weak, but the phishing stuff isn't. I could see this case go either way to be honest but he has multiple points to sue about so he'll get something. Also, I don't think he can sue for the cost of finding out who the guy is. That was his choice... - Seatback, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You would think he'd have decent gear after 286 days /played.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I had a WoW character deleted by an ex, and Blizzard restored it. I call BS on the GM saying "You got Phished, deal with it." because the GMs are usually VERY helpful. When I had my character deleted, I contacted a GM, they locked my account until I could prove that I really was me, and once I faxed them a notarized copy of my driver's license, they restored my account, the items, and the gold.
Also, this guy can't sue, as he does not own anything in WoW. Blizzard owns all in-game items. You can't sue for "Lost time" because.. It does not work that way, legally. - slicedoranges, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This, kids, is why you always check to make sure your site is secure.
- SakisRakis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Since when was having money a bad thing? Declaring him a snob only because he doesn't worry about money simply goes to show how angry you are at your own position in the world.
- heresy0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This is pretty damn disgusting. For a number of reasons:
1) If he had tried a little harder, he could have gotten his character restored and rolled back, if necessary. Often you need to communicate with more than one GM to find one that will cooperate.
2) Blizzard bombards every single person who logs on to Battle.net or WoW with a billion messages that tell people to NEVER give their credit card information.
3) This guy spent 2000 dollars on something as trivial as a deleted character. Notice he mentions nothing about any sort of credit card identity theft. (in that no one has used the card yet) In fact, its incredibly likely that the site he used didn't even save the number, because that is a HUGE crime.
4) Its probably just some kid. He's going to ruin his life over a character that offers absolutely no tangible benefit to either the owner, or anyone else. If this guy has almost a year of playtime on a 2 year old game. (He probably has more on other characters) that means hes been playing for like 10 hours a day. That's disgusting. This phisher did him a favor.
I was a WoW addict for a year, logging about 100 days. I kind of understand being angry. But talk about an overreaction. -
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