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- D3NNIS, on 07/17/2008, -2/+113Where's KOTOR 3?
- Gunsotsu, on 07/17/2008, -2/+110A letter to LucasArts on behalf of all KOTOR fans:
Dear LucasArts,
Do not ***** this up!
Sincerely,
Thousands of fanboys - Coven, on 07/17/2008, -7/+106If SOE gets involved I'm going to have to choke a bitch...
- KittySpark1es, on 07/17/2008, -1/+68Please redeem Star Wars Galaxies.
- Sparky20k, on 07/17/2008, -1/+63I really hope they keep the MMO plot-centric, I'd really hate for a KOTOR game where I'm forced to grind so much that I lose sight of the plot.
- djtyrant, on 07/17/2008, -4/+64Please oh please be true!
- totorototoro, on 07/17/2008, -1/+51What about another KOTOR single player game?
- iofthestorm, on 07/17/2008, -13/+56Seriously, although I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic since it's BioWare, I would rather they did a regular RPG. MMOs are the bane of PC gaming (yet at the same time, its last lifeline).
- Pinkertinkle, on 07/17/2008, -1/+44Bastila, I'd hit it. Visas too.
- Vesci, on 07/17/2008, -0/+42I hear you have to learn all the professions to be a jedi, then when someone does actually unlock the class it will be ridiculously overpowered. Then some time after they'll do a Combat Upgrade and destroy everything we loved about the game then after realizing their mistake they'll do an "overhaul" which is almost as bad as the first "Upgrade" and then this game will disappear from existence with a very low subscriber base and only a handful of staff and then they'll say how they should have listened to their customer base regret it and still not do anything about it.
At least, that's how I envision it...call me crazy. - crowbar77, on 07/17/2008, -1/+40Kotor 2 wasn't made by bioware though either...
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: : : : : : :¯’’~~~~~~’’’ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : | : : : : : : : : : - sofunnyithurts, on 07/17/2008, -0/+37kotor 1 was ***** epic
- acevoncash, on 07/17/2008, -17/+51fap fap fap fap fap fap
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -7/+41Kotor 2 wasn't good enough for a sequel
But Kotor 1 certainly deserved a trilogy - VigRoco, on 07/17/2008, -2/+33I think that I am with baron42. Where is KOTOR 3 and why not KOTOR3 before this?
- GofG, on 07/17/2008, -4/+35There is a reason why every Star Wars MMO attempted will be doomed to fail.
Not everyone can be a Jedi.
There is no way to make a realistic SW MMO, because of the Jedis. Think about it: in every other MMORPG's universe, there was no class, even in the lore, that was feared and respected above all other classes. In Everquest, in the lore, every class was feared and respected equally. The sheer number of all of these high-power warriors/warlocks was well within the range of the lore. In World of Warcraft, in the lore, everyone is naturally extremely powerful. In Ultima Online, Ragnorak Online, EVE Online, and every other MMORPG you can think of (besides a few that I'm going to name in a bit), it made sense that the classes were as powerful as they are, and it also made sense to balance them.
However, the developers of any Star Wars and any LOTR MMORPG have a tough time ahead of them, for one reason: it does not make sense in the lore to allow people to play the classes that they want to play. This is why you simply cannot make an MMO off of a franchise that already exists.
The developers are going to have to choose between
(a) Making the Jedi underpowered, but allowing everyone to be one (Breaking the lore)
(b) Not allowing everyone to be a Jedi / Making it extremely difficult to become an Jedi (Think: you have to clear Dark Temple and the Sunwell)
(c) Allow everyone to be an overpowered Jedi, breaking the lore and the story that makes Starwars as good as it is, and breaking every other class.
Choice B is the obvious choice. Choice B will also make the game fail hard among people who aren't serious about the game; the average gamer is going to want to be a Jedi, and when they find out that they can't right off the bat, they won't want to play the game.
I do not envy Bioware. - Maynza, on 07/17/2008, -13/+39That last sentence is absolute bull. MMO's are great, generic POS mmo's suck. And MMO's are pc gamings last lifeline? Give me a break.
- Someguy101, on 02/19/2009, -0/+25I wonder how that lifeline is going to look when SC2 and D3 are released.
- petebot, on 07/17/2008, -5/+29This just may be the first MMO this meatbag plays...
- nunofgs, on 07/17/2008, -1/+25So you want story-driven gameplay in an MMO? Sorry to disappoint, but what you really want is KOTOR3.
- jscozzari, on 07/17/2008, -1/+24if LucasArts gets involved I'M gonna have to...oh wait...*****
- Jadix, on 07/17/2008, -0/+23Most MMOs do suck, but PC gaming will never die.
- petebot, on 07/17/2008, -1/+24No, that was Mission...
- SantaDuJuan, on 07/17/2008, -7/+29UPDATE from Joystiq: We've just spoken with N. Evan Van Zelfden, the writer of the report, who told us that when asked specifically if this game was "KOTOR Online", Riccitiello responded unequivocally, "Yes."
So we can rejoice! - SoulGrub, on 07/18/2008, -0/+21Hang on, doesn't the kotor period have thousands of jedi and thousands of sith which negates this entire problem?
Maybe you just haven't played kotor. - SonnyW, on 07/17/2008, -0/+20Heh. KotOR 2 has an ending, then?
Last I checked the game ended, alright. But an ending? Nah. - skridge, on 07/17/2008, -2/+22welcome to star wars galaxies, now set in a proper timeline for the jedi to exist. im sure they will find a way to screw the bantha with it, just like they did swg.
swg started out as a damn fun game, then 2 combat revamps, the removal of over 1/2 the classes and it was a piece of steaming crap. i have low expectations for anything related to the franchise after my swg experience. - Xocide, on 07/17/2008, -3/+23SOE = Sh*tting On Everyone
- Evolutuon, on 07/17/2008, -1/+21If SOE gets involved I'm going to have to choke a Smedly.
- bpeacock22, on 07/17/2008, -3/+23(d) No one can be a Jedi; they'll only exist as NPCs?
- BrainEater87, on 07/17/2008, -0/+19This sounds familiar...
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -1/+19Good point
- SushiCW, on 07/17/2008, -0/+18Or mourn.
- Raytown, on 07/18/2008, -0/+18Interesting point. But back in the day BEFORE Star Wars Episodes 1-6 there were HELLA Jedi. They didn't start becoming scarce until Vader and the Emperor ordered the execution of all Jedi during 4-6.
What's really cool is there's another new game that's coming out soon called Star Wars: The Force Unleashed. It takes place between Episodes 3-4, and your sole mission in the game is executing Jedi! - MonkeyFarts, on 07/18/2008, -0/+17They very well COULD change that and make an MMO that's also a true RPG for once, with an engrossing story line, powerful characters, and a rich setting. Maybe they could even alter the story a little bit depending on what class and race you choose so that it's unique every time you play through.
But, they probably won't. They're probably going to stick to the generic MMO formula, despite how "revolutionary" they *will* say it will be. - mercaz, on 07/17/2008, -8/+25Yes!! The only MMO that I may break my "no MMO's" rule to play.
Dang, and I had been clean for a year and a half after breaking the WoW-habit... :( - Borgcube636, on 07/17/2008, -10/+26I sense a great disturbance in the force... as if a million gamers cried out in orgasm, and WoW was suddenly silenced...
- paradigmx, on 07/17/2008, -0/+16Galaxies did it wrong, they put gamers into a world that was already well known and you felt wrong being there. On top of that, they couldn't decide what kind of MMO it was, so they did a little of everything and failed at everything.
KOTOR is set long before the 6 movies and 99% of the books, so it's a relatively unexplored universe and you can give a player the flexibility to really take a charactor to its limits - blademanx, on 07/17/2008, -3/+19Damnit, this just ruined my day. I know everyone is excited about a new KOTOR game, but its a ***** MMO. Meaning that there will be little to no storyline or character development, just an unending sequence of fetch and kill quests. ***** you Bioware, and ***** you Lucasarts. I want KOTOR 3.
- lordtyros, on 07/17/2008, -4/+19A letter to all KOTOR fans on behalf of LucasArts:
Dear KOTOR fans,
Eat ***** and die!
Sincerely,
George Lucas - bagelmaster, on 07/17/2008, -2/+16But she was a hot 15 year old.
What? - Zarokima, on 07/18/2008, -0/+13P.S. Be sure to buy this anyway because I still want your money.
- dmanmax99, on 07/17/2008, -3/+16The Combat upgrade was 100% SOE because the original dev team left SOE and the new guys didn't know how to work with that system, The NGE came about from Lucasarts and SOE because the CU was such a *****.
I actually got something in my email box about a free month in SWG, and when I played it I was sad to see how empty and terrible it was. About 27 people on my friends list and only 1 on. - KaivenTor, on 07/17/2008, -0/+12As long as it doesn't go the way of Star Wars Galaxies, I might be intrigued enough to pick it up.
- TheGreyArea, on 07/17/2008, -1/+13"Handle it? For a KOTOR MMO, I'd handle my grandfather's balls, sir."
- Renian, on 07/17/2008, -0/+11I would say "DO NOT WANT", and would prefer KOTOR 3 instead. However, this MMO is being built with HeroEngine, which is used by Hero's Journey, which I can't wait for. It's not out yet either, but that engine is effing insanely powerful.
http://www.play.net/hj
http://www.heroengine.com/ - ShakeWell, on 07/18/2008, -1/+12Just because I can never be as rich as Bill Gates, I should stop trying to make money, right?
The game doesn't have to be a WoW-killer to be a successful and good game. - MrFisty, on 07/17/2008, -0/+11Visas has no eyes.
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