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- mobbydick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+45The lawyers for Ray dispute this, claiming that "a Google search of the terms 'xbox 360' and 'brick' or 'bricking' shows over 15,000 results,"
Ray doesn't have the best lawyers, does he? :) - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44if you search for "lawyers" and "greed" you get 1,110,000 results.
- Settra, on 10/12/2007, -9/+431999 called. They want their overuse of the dollar sign in "M$" back.
- digid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34my friend bought a 360 the day before the fall update and his bricked
he was able to return it and got another one - superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -2/+34you BUY a 360 FOR LIVE dumbass. There is no point in playing a 360 without live. Its like a computer without internet.
- chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -4/+33actually, the lawyers will probably take most of it in 'fees'..
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29It's a class action lawsuit. The $5 million would be distributed among all the people with bricked consoles.
- Koopa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27A search of the words "lawyer" and "douchebag" gave me 134,000 results on Google. There must be exactly 134,000 douchebag lawyers.
EDIT- damn chris beat me to it. - addiggt, on 07/06/2009, -9/+33@ thebeast205
That could be your dad. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26My friend, who had a launch 360 just had this problem. From the representative that he talked to on the phone apparently this problem is hitting the launch 360's especially hard. So far my 360(non launch) is still safe.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Ken Kutigari called. He wants you to come back and give him another blow job.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -10/+28"seeks more than $5 million in damages and free repair of all Xbox 360s damaged by the update."
$5 million... are you ***** high? - Stikes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Thats like saying
"Don't let "the gay's" Marry! Ew! That's wrong!"
And then Tivo Will and Grace - mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I can see the argument here... the Xbox updates are not "negotiable" like Windows updates. It's NOT and "upgrade" or "expanded features" like they play the XP2 service packs off for Windows when they change license terms and absolve themselves of all liability. You MUST have the patches they require in order to play on the service, it's in the TOS. Therefore Microsoft MUST accept responsiblity if you have not modified the console... which only a small number of people actually do. Like another poster said, they can't hide behind "hardware vendors", driver problems, ISP problems... the WHOLE lot is theirs... THEY have to make it right!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Mine started by occasionally failing to read flawless discs. Then, it started sporadically crashing. Next, the crashing gradually became more frequent until it would crash as soon as I played any game... without fail. Now, it's giving me the three red lights (with an error code of 0102). I don't know if it is defective hardware or if the updates triggered the downward spiral.
Anyway, I bought it late in September... so, luckily, I still have a couple of weeks left on the 90 day warranty. - lastberserker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18That's nothing, I got 1,240,000 for "lawyers eat babies" and 64,900 for "every time a lawsuit is filed god kills a kitten" Would anyone think of babies and kitties?
- Krakn3Dfx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15"So does mine. Arrr I love it when people post BS about there 360's "not working""
Yeah, those people that had their $300-$400 360 bricked because of a sloppy code update from Microsoft, that's just sour grapes!
Idiot. - tendonut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13The gap between consoles and PCs is slowly fading away. Before you know it, Consoles will take a ***** as often as PCs do, only unlike a PC, you can't fix consoles yourself.
- debbiedragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I know that our Xbox 360 (we got it the day it came out) was screwed up within the first 90 days with the flashing red error lights or whatever, and failing to read discs. Originally microsoft made us pay to ship it and pay to have the thing repaired, over $130. A couple months later we received a check in the mail with a note that said "It came to our attention that you were right, your repair should be covered under warranty". So I think that something might come out of this guys class action suit.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@lazybones
I see that you don't read the political section much. Hats off to ya. - ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10***** Sony....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12may not mean much to us, but for the less techish person it could mean a lot by dropping the G bomb
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Your search - "every time a lawsuit is filed god kills a kitten" - did not match any documents.
LIAR! - elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Now you're lying! If you "could care less" then you wouldn't be replying and defending yourself so many times. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't both taking the time to tell me that.
I don't dislike you; I just dislike poor spelling and grammar. You can solve the problem of everybody thinking you're a dumbass if you would just take the 20 extra seconds to spell things correctly. - mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9why should you pay for damage done by Microsoft software you "subscribed" to in Xbox Live and paid them money for? When they FORCE you to download patches for their system, their hardware, their code that's locked down so you can't touch it. When it bricks it's ENTIRELY their fault!
PC makers and Microsoft have played the blame game for years... it's "their" hardware, or "their" drivers, or "their" OS.. and on an on....in this case Microsoft has locked down the ENTIRE channel. They manufacture the hardware and DRM it, they write the firmware and DRM it, They require game makers to publish games thru THEM and then DRM it... seeing a pattern.... to get on line you have to connect to Microsoft's servers, with DRM... YOU must allow Live to apply their patches to update the DRM... even game makers have to run THEIR games on Microsoft's Servers so Microsoft doesn't have to share the DRM. The ENTIRE show is Microsoft... if they start bricking consoles they need better QA! - Rico1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Something went on because my 360 and my friends 360 both failed on the same day. Flashing red LEDs on the front. We bought our units on the same day in Jan from the same Best Buy. Additionally, when I was there to exchange my console, there was another guy with the same problem. He too, purchased the unit from the same Best Buy on the same day in Jan.
Coincidence? I say not but you decide. :-) - Lazybones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I am surprised how long a single comment can be.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Not only does it make me feel cool, it ALSO makes me feel *important*.
Anyway, either learn to spell, or deal with people calling you a dumbass, dumbass. - Cosiant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The atmosphere is getting sadder, maybe someone should bash the playstation 3 to lighten the mood up.
- fjc8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I have an Xbox 360 and I don't play live.
- dandonia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I dont think they should get away with selling a product that brakes within the first few months(everyone knows someone with the 3 red lights) anyway but then to release a patch that causes more computers to break and then charge many of them people to repair the system. Thats ludicris. This happened to me just after i got smackdown which is the sole reason i bought the 360, I had enough time to go through the story build a charactor unlock nearly everything. I won 6 prestigus belts online i was 3rd in the rankings and then to loose my 360 for nearly a month, and when it came back to me with non of my xbox live content or any of my saved games. It has ruined the only reason i even bought the console for me. I dont want to do it all again but now i have to and i will never get the ranking back. This was on of 6 games ruined for me so Microsoft should pay somet.
What if instead of the 5million they are going to pay out, if they just gave away a free game to us. It could be a game from xbox live or even microsft points. It would keep people playing on their systems and make me feel better about what happened to me.
It probably wont happen. But where do i sign up to be one of the people thats part of the class action. - aaaleman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It bricked mine.
- TheG2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10@Genocyde
Dumbass...go back to AOL. - dandonia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7mine did the same except i didnt get the three red lights i just got the "to play this did put it in a 360". When i sent my 360 back to microsoft they didnt tell me to keep my hard drive so now i have lost all of my saves and it has put me off playing most my games simply because i was so far through them an i dont want to do em again.
- Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@dougm68 - No, it's true. Nintendo has been replacing any of the faulty Wii's that broke after launch. For free.
Of course, you don't get your new Wii until they have more in stock, but it's still free. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13See, cardy...the thing is, MOSt people do not hate Microsoft. The teeny tiny insignificant to the world minority on Digg does not matter. It is sad that Diggers are so out of touch with reality that they think the average person is walking around hating, or even not liking Microsoft.
- mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This is exactly what we need for software! In this case the USER is contractually not allowed to modify their Xbox software.. the entire show is Microsoft.. the hardware, firmware, even the games and internet servers are all operated and controlled by Microsoft. There is no third party software on the system NOT somehow verified by Microsoft! NONE! That makes this WORLDS DIFFERENT THAN WINDOWS SOFTWARE.
Microsoft can't hide behind EULAs like they do with Window and PC software. It won't hold up in court. I it's not OPTIONAL to install Xbox patches... they are required under the TOS contract. They can't say "oops" we bricked your device (you took a risk with new software, better luck next time) like they do with every Windows Update... It's entirely their system and it's for one purpose, not many. It's time for Microsoft to grow up and be a real company that stands behind their product and doesn't schlep for excuses when they publish sloppy *****. - elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Remember people, use the block button so that you NEVER need to read posts by this moron again.
- mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They want to hide behind the usual "EULA" terms they use for Windows.. but Xbox isn't windows and patches are REQUIRED, not optional. With all the DRM and all the ways they make people PAY to use, pay to distribue, pay to write games... that makes it squarely MICROSOFT'S fault when the thing doens't work. Xbox is effectively like a Cell phone.. Their profit... and their Blame.
- killakanoski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4actually, in civil cases if billing on contingency lawyers take 33%. In a class action suit like this lawyer may take 75-80% of the award leaving everyone else with basically nothing, free month of live as an offer maybe, that's about it.
- blankartist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8That happened to my original Xbox. It suddenly died. I called up MS after hearing similar complaints with the drive. MS of course played dumb and told me to pound sand.
Well ***** you MS.
I promptly headed to my nearest Costco, bought a brand new system, swapped the defective Xbox and returned it, no questions asked. The hell will warranties. - antispimmer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I got mine at launch, and I have yet to have any problems with it.
- Aiwanei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Muyoso
Because many stores track systems by their serial number so you can't do that. Plain and simple. - Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Tell me again why people don't buy new ones with cash, and then return their old broken 360 in the new box with the new receipt?
And don't even mention ethical things, i am way passed that. - Drealoth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm from Canada, and a friend's (launch) console bricked following this update, and Microsoft payed for shipping and the repair. He was without the console for about a week, but that was it. From what I can tell, Microsoft is refusing to give free repairs to people who have been modding their consoles. Even if the problems are unrelated, I can understand Microsoft's reasoning - the people modding their consoles know that it voids their warrenty, and so by doing so knowingly take on the associated risks.
- G3K0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Lmao.
"Well, you see. That stupid comment of mine was sarcasm. Because of this, you can't blame me for any thing I said. In fact, I get to insult you! Because it means something else. Don't you get it?"
What an idiot - Krakn3Dfx, on 10/12/2007, -13/+16So much for the "We have to code for millions of combinations of hardware" argument, they can't even make their ***** stable on a single static unit
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2no I mean a hardware memory reset switch such as pulling out the Cmos battery.
- eatmyjustice, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3that a google search would show 15,000 hits seems about right to me... I've lost track of the number powersupply/brick jokes right after the 360 launch.
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