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Keighley: Fox News' Mass Effect Skit Was 'Off the Wall'
gamedaily.com — Going up against the Fox News monster can be tough, especially when they're overflowing with ignorance on the subject of games. Geoff Keighley talks about his appearance with GameDaily BIZ. "I sort of felt a little bit like I was on an Onion News Network skit or something like that. It was a little off the wall..."
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- michealm, on 01/25/2008, -1/+25I'd love to see what Geoff would have said if he had the time to really talk about that game.
- hockey, on 01/25/2008, -1/+5I felt he did a decent job with what the time he had and he was able to refute much of what was said in a mature manner. Of course giving the frothing nature of his "opponent" there wasn't much he could really do. I mean just the simple fact that he was able to point out that this woman had never even played the game she was blasting spoke volumes.
At least the panelist in the middle actually took the time to research the game before the segment and she said herself that she found nothing explicit in her initial research. - naiku, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1agreed i would have loved to see what Keighley had to say.
I wonder how well that book is selling for that Lawrence bitch who said the game portrays women as objects.
- hockey, on 01/25/2008, -1/+5I felt he did a decent job with what the time he had and he was able to refute much of what was said in a mature manner. Of course giving the frothing nature of his "opponent" there wasn't much he could really do. I mean just the simple fact that he was able to point out that this woman had never even played the game she was blasting spoke volumes.
- jstroh, on 01/25/2008, -4/+99Fox News pretty much is the Onion but doesn't know it.
- RockLobstah, on 01/25/2008, -2/+34Just not quite as funny.
- prophetpimp, on 01/25/2008, -1/+26And not as accurate as the Onion.
- sickrubik, on 01/25/2008, -2/+2Only because they don't have Nancy Grace. If there were able to get her, their comedic stylings would be unrivaled.
- sickrubik, on 01/30/2008, -0/+1There are Nancy Grace fans on Digg?
- slicecom, on 01/25/2008, -1/+8Too bad many people watching it don't know that or are too ignorant to care.
- Sneezyx, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1More like the National Enquirer, or whatever they're calling sensationalist tabloids nowadays. They'll never call him back to discuss Spore, unless it turns out to have graphic sex among aliens. Hentai orgy; yes!
- acdcfanbill, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1The evolution in Spore would be too heretical for Fox News to show. :)
- Mpwns, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1we don't get the right fox news we have a multi-verse problem the last 8 or so years. i feel bad for the universe that is doing good with bush since we got there fox new channel and i notice a few others as well recently.
- RockLobstah, on 01/25/2008, -2/+34Just not quite as funny.
- breathofwater, on 01/25/2008, -1/+30here is the vid from youtube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DCPXQvdmys0- merdiesel, on 01/25/2008, -1/+12I don't know where I've been this week, but thats the first time I've seen this. I mean really, "Luke Skywalker meets Debbie Does Dallas"? What a bunch of *****. They watch a 30 second trailer on the net and all of the sudden think they know everything about a game? Fox news can rot in ***** hell.
- Alfredosauce, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4The Titanic has more graphic sex/nude scenes then this game. Wtf is it with the half truths the host spouts "the ablity for the players to engage in graphic sex and the person thats playing the game gets to decide exactly whats going to happen if you know what i mean". Yes you get to decide what happens in the game, yes your character can have sex in the game but you don't get to decide exactly whats going to happen during the sex.(not a sex simulator, sexbox) Which is what she implied. The subjects of the research that the ignorant psychologist cited must have been psychotic if they could not tell the difference between whats real and whats not.
- breathofwater, on 01/25/2008, -1/+42This video shows everyone working for Fox is completely ignorant to gaming. Some of the quotes in this will be swimming through my head for days...
- charlescheese, on 01/25/2008, -1/+24It's obvious that everyone outside of Geoff had never sat down and played a modern game. Their ignorance to gaming is much like the ignorance that people had about Elvis in the 50's when they said he would destroy our society, and how people felt about heavy metal in the 70's and 80's and how that would destroy our society, and so on. Go on back to the 20's and I'm sure that people thought movies, cartoons, and TV would destroy our society as well. It's just a natural human response to things you don't understand, and unfortunately Fox puts their hysterical ignorance on this issue up for everyone to laugh at.
- sharkd, on 01/25/2008, -1/+16Most videos of Fox News show that everyone working for Fox is completely ignorant.
- merdiesel, on 01/25/2008, -6/+5You could have ended that sentence after the 10th word.
- Zuggy, on 01/25/2008, -0/+8There are 2 problems, first is that most people over a certain age still think of video games as a toy. Mass Effect has an M rating which is the ESRB equivalent of an R rating. The other problem is that parents don't care anymore. Little 13 year old timmy asks mommy to buy him a game and she does ignoring the big ass signs saying what the ratings are, or why a game is rated something that's plastered on the back.
Also I would bet that all those panel members on the Fox braodcast have R rated movies easily accessed by their kids - MWeather, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4It's not just gaming. Watch any Fox News (or really any media outlet) report about something you are knowledgeable of. It's no coincidence that they're wildly off base on those stories. You just don't notice it on stories you're not familiar with.
- Hipple, on 01/25/2008, -2/+57I think the important point is not that Fox News employees are ignorant of gaming, which shouldn't come as a shock to anyone, but that they find it acceptable to do either cursory research or no research at all. It's really a sad state of affairs for the news media in America when the most thorough research done on a given topic is watching a few YouTube videos.
I'm not sure the baby-boomer generation of broadcasters will ever understand that not all video games are designed to be played by children and adolescents. They only know that their kids do it, and they can't imagine that other adults might do it, so a game like Mass Effect is OBVIOUSLY marketed towards children - because who else plays this crap, right? In 5-10 years, that generation will be pushed out by a savvier generation, but until that point, I don't think there's much hope for games to receive fair coverage in the news media, particularly from sensationalist ***** hawkers like Fox News.- charlescheese, on 01/25/2008, -2/+5I agree with everything you said, except to be fair, I think a lot of kids ARE playing Mass Effect. There are worse things in the world though, and you can find much more offensive things that what's seen in Mass Effect in about five seconds by doing a couple google searches. Honestly, the internet is something people should be much more concerned with than Mass Effect. Your kids can get themselves in a whole ***** ton more trouble on the internet than any alleged damage done by a video game.
- Navicerts, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3This is true. However, this was exactly the type of opportunity the game industry needed to make parents more aware of the rating system as well as the fact that you can password protect your game system so that a password is needed to play M rated games. Instead they blew it because they were only interested in a smear piece. On the surface it can look like they were "partly right" but if you really think about it they blew away a great opportunity while claiming at the same time that it is not possible to protect your kids from this type of thing.
- charlescheese, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Agreed, and FWIW I sent Fox an email a few days ago making exactly that point.
- Philbert, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1Not even google, just turn on your TV for a few minutes in the evening, or maybe even worse, in the daytime when the soaps are on. Of course most TVs also have parental controls, FOX even has commercials about the "V Chip" that play all the time.
- Navicerts, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3This is true. However, this was exactly the type of opportunity the game industry needed to make parents more aware of the rating system as well as the fact that you can password protect your game system so that a password is needed to play M rated games. Instead they blew it because they were only interested in a smear piece. On the surface it can look like they were "partly right" but if you really think about it they blew away a great opportunity while claiming at the same time that it is not possible to protect your kids from this type of thing.
- navster15, on 01/25/2008, -1/+22Upon watching that Fox News 'report', let me say that I give all Digg users permission to shoot me in the head if I ever turn out to be one of those crotchety old windbags that dismisses a new trend without giving it a fair shake.
- leerayIG88, on 01/25/2008, -1/+2I'll shoot you between the balls.
- chiefcorn, on 01/25/2008, -8/+0shall we give emos a chance to be heard? :P
- sharkd, on 01/25/2008, -1/+14Well there's your problem: you've confused Fox News with the news media.
- Philbert, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1The sad thing is that there are a lot of people who make that mistake.
- bcamp1973, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3I think the important point is that Fox employees are ignorant. period.
- charlescheese, on 01/25/2008, -2/+5I agree with everything you said, except to be fair, I think a lot of kids ARE playing Mass Effect. There are worse things in the world though, and you can find much more offensive things that what's seen in Mass Effect in about five seconds by doing a couple google searches. Honestly, the internet is something people should be much more concerned with than Mass Effect. Your kids can get themselves in a whole ***** ton more trouble on the internet than any alleged damage done by a video game.
- Dgen_X, on 01/25/2008, -2/+87'I'd love to come back on and talk about a game like Spore or other big games coming out this year.'
Yes, in a news segment titled "Are games forcing evolution on our children?"- mablung, on 01/25/2008, -0/+9HA exactly what I was thinking. It's really bad when we can guess the ignorant rants before they get a chance to spew them.
- JRootabega, on 01/25/2008, -0/+11If they were smarter they'd realize the player is the Intelligent Designer.
- Philbert, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1And "playing god" would be better in their eyes?
- wedges, on 01/25/2008, -8/+27i was on Fox News a couple of years ago speaking in support of a professor under fire at CU, where I have since graduated. My position? a) free speech is vital to the pursuit of new and challenging research and b) they hadn't even read his work, and thus didn't know what they were talking about. Their position? a) he hated America and wanted to kill us all, and b) he was a radical militant who blew up his own students with homemade bombs.
Faux News: Unfair and Unbalanced.- strictnein, on 01/25/2008, -1/+14Ward Churchill? If so, he was rightly fired, although not for what Fox News would harp on. He was a plagiarist and a fraud.
- macromorgan, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3He fit right in in Boulder then... the town's full of plagerists.
"Keep 'insert city name' Weird" started in Austin, everyone knows that!- lotsa1s, on 01/26/2008, -0/+0And hippies. (Proud boulder hippie)
Didn't this town get ranked like 2nd most pot smoking town per capita in the entire country? Right after Boston?
- lotsa1s, on 01/26/2008, -0/+0And hippies. (Proud boulder hippie)
- macromorgan, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3He fit right in in Boulder then... the town's full of plagerists.
- shaka999, on 01/25/2008, -1/+9Yeah, lets have all our professors lie about their ethnic background and copy other peoples works!
- charlescheese, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Ward Churchill! That guy is as crazy as crazy comes. He was fired for plagiarism, but he should have been fired for being a radical and teaching the students at CU complete and total nonsense.
- 16ozStripSteak, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2While I'm not the biggest Fox fan, you have to be honest... I read that Fox offered EA Sports a chance to come on the show and they declined. http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/01/24/mass-eff ...
- strictnein, on 01/25/2008, -1/+14Ward Churchill? If so, he was rightly fired, although not for what Fox News would harp on. He was a plagiarist and a fraud.
- hockey, on 01/25/2008, -3/+10While I agree the entire interview felt like a setup there is one crucial aspect everyone is ignoring (probably because they didn't finish the round table discussion after the interview)
As the panel was wrapping up they ended on this note (and I'm paraphrasing):
"Ultimately it comes down to the parents being more involved and keeping an eye on what their kids play and watch. The government shouldn't censor everything that comes through the media, that falls to the parents. It's hard but it needs to be done"
So while they really didn't know what they were talking about at least they got the ultimate gist of everything we are saying when it comes to all the drama surrounding video games.- byronm, on 01/25/2008, -1/+6I don't buy it. The issue is that fox news made people believe what this lady was talking about and then throws in the idea that parents should be more involved with their kids. I mean, put 2 and 2 together. 1. Lets demonize the game 2. Lets tell the parents they should buy into this demonization of the game and then control their kids. The reality of the matter is the game is entirely humanistic and entirely good for kids and good parents would teach that to their kids instead of believing what someone on tv said. They didn't remind parents to play games with their family and enjoy it with their children (when they're capable of enjoying it) but instead they demonized it and used that to invoke the controlling aspects of ignorant parents.
- exomni, on 01/25/2008, -9/+10Fox News is representative of exactly why I have no respect for the human race.
- slicecom, on 01/25/2008, -2/+3Why? Not all humans are that stupid, just some are and they make the rest of us look bad.
- whyufail, on 01/25/2008, -2/+1Majority rules, and sadly the majority are mindless buffoons.
- soundman07, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Too bad we're all not as smart as you.
- whyufail, on 01/25/2008, -2/+1Majority rules, and sadly the majority are mindless buffoons.
- charlescheese, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1So just go jump off the nearest bridge if that's how you feel.
- slicecom, on 01/25/2008, -2/+3Why? Not all humans are that stupid, just some are and they make the rest of us look bad.
- cigawoot, on 01/25/2008, -2/+31Unfortunately, Fox News used Geoff Keighley to make it seem like they're giving equal time to an opposing viewpoint, which isn't the case. Fox News made a fool out of Geoff, which is completely unfair. They maybe let him get in a few words before their "expert" took over stating false research and making false claims. This is like bashing a book without reading it first, in this case they bashed Mass Effect without playing it first.
The path to the "sex scene" isn't clear, really. The innuendo preceding it requires you to understand what will go down, it doesn't say "LOL DO U WANNA HAVE SEXES? YES OR NO?"
That is all.- Coven, on 01/25/2008, -0/+7Exactly. The only reason I courted Ashley instead of treating her like a soldier, was because I had prior knowledge of a sex scene. There are subtle routes in the conversations taht you can have with the characters that can completely change how they react to you. Fox News doesn't even touch on that subject. Its all "HOLY ***** THERE'S ALIEN TITTIES IN THE GAME!" when in fact I've seen more T&A on broadcast television.
- Navicerts, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Come to think of it you see more skin on the Fox news network itself.
- johndi, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Funny thing about Fox's self-righteous posturing. They show more T&A than CNN and MSNBC combined, and that's just on their new channel.
- Navicerts, on 01/25/2008, -0/+6I don't think they made him look like a fool. I think he made them look like fools when he asked "Have you ever played the game" and the expert laughed as though "what a silly question, of course not!".
- Coven, on 01/25/2008, -0/+7Exactly. The only reason I courted Ashley instead of treating her like a soldier, was because I had prior knowledge of a sex scene. There are subtle routes in the conversations taht you can have with the characters that can completely change how they react to you. Fox News doesn't even touch on that subject. Its all "HOLY ***** THERE'S ALIEN TITTIES IN THE GAME!" when in fact I've seen more T&A on broadcast television.
- smergs, on 01/25/2008, -3/+2Not to go off topic, but just a reminder his new show comes on tonight. Looks like it isn't until 1 AM though. I guess I'll DVR it. I never watched game head or whatever it was called but this whole Mass Effect thing brought my attention to the guy. Seems like he's probably a good host and probably a fair video game reviewer. I guess I'll find out.
- brianboyko, on 01/25/2008, -2/+15Quite seriously: Going on Fox News gives Fox News credibility that it doesn't deserve. Turn down all invitations; they are not interested in showing both sides of the story.
- Scienceisfun, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7One problem with that strategy is that someone invariably will agree to be on the show. I think I'd rather an informed individual on the show than one from the bottom of the barrel, but the point is well made.
- EmperorAwesome, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1It's funny in a way, until you realize that there is a significant number of Americans who get their news from the teevee. Fox, CNN, MS NBC, they're all ***** mongers. While that's harmless and cute to most of us, through the unwashed masses they pander to they're able to retard the development of our culture.
- blast_flame, on 01/25/2008, -5/+2Good. Fox's comments were crazy. I didn't like mass effect due to the fact that I like the idea of creating AIs but come on...
- kris2pe, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3Geoff Keighley wasn't even prepared and as if he didn't know much about fox news. Came in there and was gobble up and spit out whole! Poor Geoff!
- BigBoyBoobs, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3Geoff displays neutrality when he does Game Head and The Bonus Round. It was good to see his other side where he layed down the law when Fox was blowing Mass Effect's content out of proportions.
- magiclava, on 01/25/2008, -1/+10http://youtube.com/watch?v=DCPXQvdmys0
"who would argue... that Luke Skywalker meets Debbie does Dallas is a good thing?"
me... - Raymond42c, on 01/25/2008, -5/+2I love how this is so much more of a problem because its Fox News. CNN, MSNBC, all the MSM's have been doing this for years. Why is there not the uproar when any of the liberal media lies?
- Scienceisfun, on 01/25/2008, -2/+9Oh come on. If CNN had misrepresented Mass Effect the same way, the reaction on the internet would have been the exact same.
- Raymond42c, on 01/25/2008, -6/+0But the comments would have been along the lines of "there goes the media again" vs. FOX is evil, etc. etc. (not just on this post but the whole incident). I'm not saying they don't deserve their ridicule for this, but don't single them out as some horrible entity when they do the same thing everyone else does.
P.S. while on the subject, someone please get Mass Effect onto the PC so I can see what all the hype is about. :).- MalenfantX, on 01/25/2008, -0/+6a big difference is that Fox is consistantly geared to appeal to clueless reactionaries. Anyone with a brain is disgusted by this.
- Raymond42c, on 01/25/2008, -6/+0But the comments would have been along the lines of "there goes the media again" vs. FOX is evil, etc. etc. (not just on this post but the whole incident). I'm not saying they don't deserve their ridicule for this, but don't single them out as some horrible entity when they do the same thing everyone else does.
- Scienceisfun, on 01/25/2008, -2/+9Oh come on. If CNN had misrepresented Mass Effect the same way, the reaction on the internet would have been the exact same.
- SuperVepr308, on 01/25/2008, -10/+2So, do the liberal wastelands we know as ABC, CNN, etc have a resident gaming expert? I wonder what Brokejaw, Blather or any of the others would have said about Mass Effect if they had been around...
- Red1000, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7...speaking of people running their mouth with an uninformed opinion
- Pebbles2, on 01/25/2008, -1/+4a reputable news organization wouldn't even cover stupid ***** like this. Typical Faux creating wars on problems that don't exist.
- seantubridy, on 01/25/2008, -2/+13Did anyone else read it as Keira Knightley and something about her skirt? Or was that just wishful thinking on my part?
- soundman07, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1If only.
- nebbo, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7Oh just wait for Spore, they will use to show that the video game industry is trying to indoctrinate our children with evolution.
- drmangrum, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3I haven't completed Mass Effect,but I'm nearing the end..I think. I've yet to encounter anything that could be viewed as controversial. Yes, they deal a little bit with religion, race relations, and even genetic manipulation, however the outcomes are based on player input. The views of the player will be reflected, no those of the developer.
- Vandessa, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2This makes me think of all the other naughty innuendo type games that have been out since the monochrome graphics monitor that never got noticed by these kinds of groups nor did it effect kids playing it (if you got past the usually hilarious Q&A security screens that is). Anyone around here remember the first Leisure Suit Larry and the Land of the Lounge Lizards?
- Coven, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1Wait....Just wait for DN:F to come out. Fox will have a field day with it.
- gregdigg, on 01/25/2008, -0/+14I think everyone is forgetting that Ms. Pac-Man was nude. Nothing covering her natural curves (curve) but a bow and a beauty mark.
- Gregsaw, on 01/25/2008, -2/+2I was as pissed as the rest of you but how much can we hear about this same story? It's over, move on plz
- jimb0, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3I give him respect for going on and trying though. Thanks for that.
- soulrock, on 01/25/2008, -1/+2Being a gamer myself, I think that is just a little far-fetched to think that network news will ever cover games in a positive light. Ironcially, the same people asking for the coverage would be the same people saying, "They must really be desperate for ANY kind of news if they have to cover video games".
That said, my local news channel reported on the Wii when it was being used in nursing homes...so that's pretty cool. - IgWannA, on 01/25/2008, -5/+3"'I'd love to come back on and talk about a game like Spore or other big games coming out this year.' "
FOX headline: New videogame Spore glamourises evolution, a "theory" which has been proven false by the Bible but is still polluting the minds of our children who should be learning about the wonders of Creation. Fox News urge game retailers to burn every copy of this hateful blasphemus game before it teaches any more people the devil "science". - RyanP, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3Why don't they go after movies and tv shows with sexual content and not just games? Video games are just as relevant a form of entertainment now as those. These people had a negative view of gaming before they even heard of Mass Effect and it shows in the way they conduct themselves in the interview.
- warplayer, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3"Why don't they go after movies and tv shows with sexual content and not just games?"
Because then the people worried about that stuff would start turning off the TV. Can't lose out on those ratings can we?
- warplayer, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3"Why don't they go after movies and tv shows with sexual content and not just games?"
- breathofwater, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Next segment on gaming will feature Jack Thompson instead of Geoff
- copypastry, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3What? Parenting takes time, effort, and commitment?
This is something SUV-driving housewives/mothers don't want to hear. This reminds me of the Simpsons where Bart shoplifts. There was some brat kid in the store saying "NO MOM YOU IDIOT, I HAVE BLOODSTORM, BONESQUAD, AND BONESTORM II. BUY TWO THOUGH, I'M NOT GOING TO SHARE WITH CAITLIN"
Ignorant parents think they can buy love, and they fail big time. - katanaswordfish, on 01/25/2008, -1/+2The people at fox, especially the moronic author, come across as so damn stupid and out-of-touch... The game isn't sold to people under 17, so if somehow a kid under the age of 17 gets ahold of that game and sees that sexy sexy sideboob action then he and his parents are too blame. There have been sex scenes in movies for decades now, and it would be ridiculous to blame the movie industry if an kid under the recommended age were to sneak in and view a movie with a "sex" scene.
It makes me sick how idiotic these people are, and that they would use a constant barrage of scare tactics and the like to get viewers. They want to think they are creating a moralistically evolved (errr... intelligently designed...?) society by scaring people into their prudish and naive ways, but all they are really doing is discrediting the artists and developers of this game (an artistic medium) and defaming the industry. It should be f***ing criminal to speak such slanderous bullcrap on T.V... - daizaru, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Somehow I don't think "Spore", a game based heavily on the principals of evolution would be well received on Fox's Network either.
If he went and talked about things like Child's Play and all the money people over at Penny Arcade helped raise for children over the holidays... that would be 10x better press.
As soon as I heard Mass Effect would have the slightest bit of Nudity in it, no matter how inconsequential to the average person... I knew it would have been blown out of proportion by the media. EA had to have been expecting some blowback for it... all they can do is try to get the error corrected. - GregLoire, on 01/25/2008, -1/+2"If it wasn't for my horse..."
- markgl, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2he's just mad cause he couldn't defend the game good enough.
- Navicerts, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2It's funny how they are so dismissive of the entire game industry at the end with the "days of pacman and space invaders are over, tehehe". It's kinda like, no ***** it's a completely different industry of which you know nothing about.
- GrodyChamp, on 01/25/2008, -1/+0Brian Dawson who is a main editor of gamedaily is a convicted child molester. I'm not kidding either.
And the mass effect story was stupid as hell. Eat a dick fox - toshipaine, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1i < / 3 Fox
- HumanRecall, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1All they did was plug this bitches BOOK !! And he spouted some benign references about ( INSERT TEST HERE ) and some ( INSERT UNIVERSITY ) Blah about the sex and young males( kinda prejudice so to speak !! ) She was PWNED ! in her 10 sec pause when asked about not even playing the game !!
Jeff got 2mins to speak tops !!!
Later the tribunal as i call them went on a rant about internet , phone sex etc which has no barring on the topic !! they so profoundly called SEX BOX !! Which is so retarded it's a SIN !!
And Why all the "when we were kids it isn't like finding a PLAYBOY references for" ? Even the guys on that panel were WOMEN !! Yes i said it !! - NutManIV, on 01/26/2008, -0/+0Guys please sign this petition. http://www.petitiononline.com/foxnews9/
If we get enough signatures we can show fox news that people are really upset at this whole debacle. Maybe we can even get them to issue a correction...Maybe not but its worth a shot eh? - Fallout911, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1I wanted to bash my head into a concrete wall after watching the video.
How could these people be called journalists and authors? - theAlbinoFox, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1I just heard them issue some kind of a semi-lengthy correction about that whole Mass Effect thing. Quoting a strong statement at the end, "I've seen episodes of Lost that were more sexually explicit."
Apparently they're not entirely ignorant of their mistakes. Or at the very least, not when lots of people are trying to point it out to them. - vahnx, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Fox News is epic fail.
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