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- inactive, on 01/25/2008, -4/+100Fox News pretty much is the Onion but doesn't know it.
- Dgen_X, on 01/25/2008, -2/+87'I'd love to come back on and talk about a game like Spore or other big games coming out this year.'
Yes, in a news segment titled "Are games forcing evolution on our children?" - Hipple, on 01/25/2008, -2/+58I think the important point is not that Fox News employees are ignorant of gaming, which shouldn't come as a shock to anyone, but that they find it acceptable to do either cursory research or no research at all. It's really a sad state of affairs for the news media in America when the most thorough research done on a given topic is watching a few YouTube videos.
I'm not sure the baby-boomer generation of broadcasters will ever understand that not all video games are designed to be played by children and adolescents. They only know that their kids do it, and they can't imagine that other adults might do it, so a game like Mass Effect is OBVIOUSLY marketed towards children - because who else plays this crap, right? In 5-10 years, that generation will be pushed out by a savvier generation, but until that point, I don't think there's much hope for games to receive fair coverage in the news media, particularly from sensationalist ***** hawkers like Fox News. - breathofwater, on 01/25/2008, -1/+42This video shows everyone working for Fox is completely ignorant to gaming. Some of the quotes in this will be swimming through my head for days...
- RockLobstah, on 01/25/2008, -2/+34Just not quite as funny.
- cigawoot, on 01/25/2008, -2/+32Unfortunately, Fox News used Geoff Keighley to make it seem like they're giving equal time to an opposing viewpoint, which isn't the case. Fox News made a fool out of Geoff, which is completely unfair. They maybe let him get in a few words before their "expert" took over stating false research and making false claims. This is like bashing a book without reading it first, in this case they bashed Mass Effect without playing it first.
The path to the "sex scene" isn't clear, really. The innuendo preceding it requires you to understand what will go down, it doesn't say "LOL DO U WANNA HAVE SEXES? YES OR NO?"
That is all. - breathofwater, on 01/25/2008, -1/+30here is the vid from youtube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DCPXQvdmys0 - inactive, on 01/25/2008, -1/+26And not as accurate as the Onion.
- michealm, on 01/25/2008, -1/+25I'd love to see what Geoff would have said if he had the time to really talk about that game.
- charlescheese, on 01/25/2008, -1/+24It's obvious that everyone outside of Geoff had never sat down and played a modern game. Their ignorance to gaming is much like the ignorance that people had about Elvis in the 50's when they said he would destroy our society, and how people felt about heavy metal in the 70's and 80's and how that would destroy our society, and so on. Go on back to the 20's and I'm sure that people thought movies, cartoons, and TV would destroy our society as well. It's just a natural human response to things you don't understand, and unfortunately Fox puts their hysterical ignorance on this issue up for everyone to laugh at.
- navster15, on 01/25/2008, -1/+23Upon watching that Fox News 'report', let me say that I give all Digg users permission to shoot me in the head if I ever turn out to be one of those crotchety old windbags that dismisses a new trend without giving it a fair shake.
- wedges, on 01/25/2008, -8/+27i was on Fox News a couple of years ago speaking in support of a professor under fire at CU, where I have since graduated. My position? a) free speech is vital to the pursuit of new and challenging research and b) they hadn't even read his work, and thus didn't know what they were talking about. Their position? a) he hated America and wanted to kill us all, and b) he was a radical militant who blew up his own students with homemade bombs.
Faux News: Unfair and Unbalanced. - sharkd, on 01/25/2008, -1/+16Most videos of Fox News show that everyone working for Fox is completely ignorant.
- gregdigg, on 01/25/2008, -0/+15I think everyone is forgetting that Ms. Pac-Man was nude. Nothing covering her natural curves (curve) but a bow and a beauty mark.
- brianboyko, on 01/25/2008, -2/+15Quite seriously: Going on Fox News gives Fox News credibility that it doesn't deserve. Turn down all invitations; they are not interested in showing both sides of the story.
- strictnein, on 01/25/2008, -1/+14Ward Churchill? If so, he was rightly fired, although not for what Fox News would harp on. He was a plagiarist and a fraud.
- sharkd, on 01/25/2008, -1/+14Well there's your problem: you've confused Fox News with the news media.
- seantubridy, on 01/25/2008, -2/+14Did anyone else read it as Keira Knightley and something about her skirt? Or was that just wishful thinking on my part?
- JRootabega, on 01/25/2008, -0/+12If they were smarter they'd realize the player is the Intelligent Designer.
- merdiesel, on 01/25/2008, -1/+12I don't know where I've been this week, but thats the first time I've seen this. I mean really, "Luke Skywalker meets Debbie Does Dallas"? What a bunch of *****. They watch a 30 second trailer on the net and all of the sudden think they know everything about a game? Fox news can rot in ***** hell.
- mablung, on 01/25/2008, -0/+10HA exactly what I was thinking. It's really bad when we can guess the ignorant rants before they get a chance to spew them.
- magiclava, on 01/25/2008, -1/+10http://youtube.com/watch?v=DCPXQvdmys0
"who would argue... that Luke Skywalker meets Debbie does Dallas is a good thing?"
me... - Zuggy, on 01/25/2008, -0/+9There are 2 problems, first is that most people over a certain age still think of video games as a toy. Mass Effect has an M rating which is the ESRB equivalent of an R rating. The other problem is that parents don't care anymore. Little 13 year old timmy asks mommy to buy him a game and she does ignoring the big ass signs saying what the ratings are, or why a game is rated something that's plastered on the back.
Also I would bet that all those panel members on the Fox braodcast have R rated movies easily accessed by their kids - Coven, on 01/25/2008, -0/+8Exactly. The only reason I courted Ashley instead of treating her like a soldier, was because I had prior knowledge of a sex scene. There are subtle routes in the conversations taht you can have with the characters that can completely change how they react to you. Fox News doesn't even touch on that subject. Its all "HOLY ***** THERE'S ALIEN TITTIES IN THE GAME!" when in fact I've seen more T&A on broadcast television.
- shaka999, on 01/25/2008, -1/+9Yeah, lets have all our professors lie about their ethnic background and copy other peoples works!
- Navicerts, on 01/25/2008, -0/+7I don't think they made him look like a fool. I think he made them look like fools when he asked "Have you ever played the game" and the expert laughed as though "what a silly question, of course not!".
- slicecom, on 01/25/2008, -1/+8Too bad many people watching it don't know that or are too ignorant to care.
- hockey, on 01/25/2008, -3/+10While I agree the entire interview felt like a setup there is one crucial aspect everyone is ignoring (probably because they didn't finish the round table discussion after the interview)
As the panel was wrapping up they ended on this note (and I'm paraphrasing):
"Ultimately it comes down to the parents being more involved and keeping an eye on what their kids play and watch. The government shouldn't censor everything that comes through the media, that falls to the parents. It's hard but it needs to be done"
So while they really didn't know what they were talking about at least they got the ultimate gist of everything we are saying when it comes to all the drama surrounding video games. - Scienceisfun, on 01/25/2008, -2/+9Oh come on. If CNN had misrepresented Mass Effect the same way, the reaction on the internet would have been the exact same.
- Scienceisfun, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7One problem with that strategy is that someone invariably will agree to be on the show. I think I'd rather an informed individual on the show than one from the bottom of the barrel, but the point is well made.
- MalenfantX, on 01/25/2008, -0/+6a big difference is that Fox is consistantly geared to appeal to clueless reactionaries. Anyone with a brain is disgusted by this.
- Red1000, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7...speaking of people running their mouth with an uninformed opinion
- nebbo, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7Oh just wait for Spore, they will use to show that the video game industry is trying to indoctrinate our children with evolution.
- byronm, on 01/25/2008, -1/+6I don't buy it. The issue is that fox news made people believe what this lady was talking about and then throws in the idea that parents should be more involved with their kids. I mean, put 2 and 2 together. 1. Lets demonize the game 2. Lets tell the parents they should buy into this demonization of the game and then control their kids. The reality of the matter is the game is entirely humanistic and entirely good for kids and good parents would teach that to their kids instead of believing what someone on tv said. They didn't remind parents to play games with their family and enjoy it with their children (when they're capable of enjoying it) but instead they demonized it and used that to invoke the controlling aspects of ignorant parents.
- MWeather, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4It's not just gaming. Watch any Fox News (or really any media outlet) report about something you are knowledgeable of. It's no coincidence that they're wildly off base on those stories. You just don't notice it on stories you're not familiar with.
- hockey, on 01/25/2008, -1/+5I felt he did a decent job with what the time he had and he was able to refute much of what was said in a mature manner. Of course giving the frothing nature of his "opponent" there wasn't much he could really do. I mean just the simple fact that he was able to point out that this woman had never even played the game she was blasting spoke volumes.
At least the panelist in the middle actually took the time to research the game before the segment and she said herself that she found nothing explicit in her initial research. - Navicerts, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3This is true. However, this was exactly the type of opportunity the game industry needed to make parents more aware of the rating system as well as the fact that you can password protect your game system so that a password is needed to play M rated games. Instead they blew it because they were only interested in a smear piece. On the surface it can look like they were "partly right" but if you really think about it they blew away a great opportunity while claiming at the same time that it is not possible to protect your kids from this type of thing.
- Navicerts, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3Come to think of it you see more skin on the Fox news network itself.
- RyanP, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3Why don't they go after movies and tv shows with sexual content and not just games? Video games are just as relevant a form of entertainment now as those. These people had a negative view of gaming before they even heard of Mass Effect and it shows in the way they conduct themselves in the interview.
- warplayer, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3"Why don't they go after movies and tv shows with sexual content and not just games?"
Because then the people worried about that stuff would start turning off the TV. Can't lose out on those ratings can we? - Pebbles2, on 01/25/2008, -1/+4a reputable news organization wouldn't even cover stupid ***** like this. Typical Faux creating wars on problems that don't exist.
- charlescheese, on 01/25/2008, -2/+5I agree with everything you said, except to be fair, I think a lot of kids ARE playing Mass Effect. There are worse things in the world though, and you can find much more offensive things that what's seen in Mass Effect in about five seconds by doing a couple google searches. Honestly, the internet is something people should be much more concerned with than Mass Effect. Your kids can get themselves in a whole ***** ton more trouble on the internet than any alleged damage done by a video game.
- drmangrum, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3I haven't completed Mass Effect,but I'm nearing the end..I think. I've yet to encounter anything that could be viewed as controversial. Yes, they deal a little bit with religion, race relations, and even genetic manipulation, however the outcomes are based on player input. The views of the player will be reflected, no those of the developer.
- macromorgan, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3He fit right in in Boulder then... the town's full of plagerists.
"Keep 'insert city name' Weird" started in Austin, everyone knows that! - johndi, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Funny thing about Fox's self-righteous posturing. They show more T&A than CNN and MSNBC combined, and that's just on their new channel.
- copypastry, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3What? Parenting takes time, effort, and commitment?
This is something SUV-driving housewives/mothers don't want to hear. This reminds me of the Simpsons where Bart shoplifts. There was some brat kid in the store saying "NO MOM YOU IDIOT, I HAVE BLOODSTORM, BONESQUAD, AND BONESTORM II. BUY TWO THOUGH, I'M NOT GOING TO SHARE WITH CAITLIN"
Ignorant parents think they can buy love, and they fail big time. - jimb0, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3I give him respect for going on and trying though. Thanks for that.
- breathofwater, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Next segment on gaming will feature Jack Thompson instead of Geoff
- 16ozStripSteak, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2While I'm not the biggest Fox fan, you have to be honest... I read that Fox offered EA Sports a chance to come on the show and they declined. http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/01/24/mass-eff ...
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