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- MillurTime, on 01/20/2008, -10/+196Anyone else find this article physically hard to read?
- yensed, on 01/20/2008, -3/+91"In the middle of '03 I tried to convince our director of "innovation" that we needed to do motion control, simple and intuitive controllers, and focus on family oriented and just plain fun content." Probably not the smartest thing to say if you are trying to stay Anonymous.
- TiMMY8765, on 01/20/2008, -0/+69no, moving it from standing to laying or laying to standing while it is running chews up a disc
- bigmac375, on 01/20/2008, -9/+76So if the dvd drive is another big problem, then why don't they extend the warranty on that too? Are they really going to make me RRoD my 360 when another one of my drives dies, just to get it fixed?
- dagamer34, on 01/20/2008, -11/+75Still fearful of buying a 360. How about fixing that disc drive so it isn't so loud?
- KaiUno, on 01/20/2008, -2/+54Everybody likes to play games. No wonder a game deprived apple fanboy ends up here.
- chris9902, on 01/20/2008, -0/+34if your 360 breaks for ANY reason just say it's the RROD. they wont send it back to you unless it fully works so everything else is replaced free.
- wilhoitm, on 01/20/2008, -14/+47Why was Micro$oft so cheap and why did they cut so many corners if they have so much money? Do they still lose money on each 360 sold?
- Fizban140, on 01/20/2008, -9/+40Everyone claims to have the idea for the Wii before the Wii came out, who the hell didn't see that coming? You mean casual games will be popular? No way!
- deadnoob, on 01/20/2008, -3/+32i find it weird how new models are still getting the RRoD. i really thought they would have fixed it completely by now
- FoxOrian, on 01/20/2008, -2/+31don't forget this little gem:
"Does some games more than others can cause hardware failure." - shibainu, on 01/20/2008, -7/+34ive been getting this disc is unreadable. clean with a cloth message. 3rd 360 already
- cthellis, on 01/20/2008, -2/+25Did you try blowing on the contacts? ;-)
- ZenMojo, on 01/20/2008, -12/+35Funny. Three years after the PS2 was released people found out about disc read problems on less than 1% of them and it became a huge ***** scandal. The same number of Microsoft Xbox problems appeared the following year and nobody cared.
This generation, the Xbox 360's died within months of release and it's become just one of those things and not such a big deal. The PS3's work perfectly fine and people bitch about these things all of the time for no reason.
Fanboys. - ninjasquirrel, on 01/20/2008, -4/+26There wasn't a single thing in that entire article that should be news for anyone. I seriously doubt that this was a real "inside source", as any of the information he repeated is easily available with a quick search.
- DigitAl56K, on 01/20/2008, -0/+20"Funny thing. In the middle of '03 I tried to convince our director of "innovation" that we needed to do motion control, simple and intuitive controllers, and focus on family oriented and just plain fun content. Well before the Wii came out. He completely disregarded it. Oh well. I bet they wish they had that decision back as a do over."
Sounds like our "confidential source" may be facing some heat himself in the near future. - RyFo18, on 01/20/2008, -2/+21because managment was poor..They ignored known issues hoping that they would simply "be ok." That's not how high volume products work. You can't hope that something you know is wrong won't be a big problem. That's why ANY company needs to have good reliability goals and verification tests for their product put in place. I bet if you asked anyone at Microsoft working on the Xbox 360 what their reliability goal was before their initial release of the product that they would have no idea....The design engineers behind the product (whom will never get any recognition) did their best to put out a product that worked...the Management making decisions on the product's overal status are no doubt the ones to be blamed....Just an overall rant, with any company its very sad that the people making the product work rarely see bonuses when that product succeeds...it all goes straight to management...cruel corporate world.
- BurntToast, on 01/20/2008, -1/+19You should. Piggybacking off the power supply is horrible and the fact that the intercooler fans create a vacuum and causes more stress on the 360's built in fans... it's bad news. Also voids the warranty for the 360.
- emceepecks, on 01/20/2008, -12/+30Just buy one already and quit missing out. It's only loud if you are sitting right next to it in a quiet room; fire up a game and i guarantee it won't bother you one bit.
oh yeah, and buy CoD4. it's the *****. - totorototoro, on 01/20/2008, -4/+21Interesting stuff. The point about there not being just one cause of the RROD makes a lot of sense, and explains why there wasn't an easy fix when it first started happening-probably just seemed like different unrelated glitches at the time.
- knailbomb420, on 01/20/2008, -2/+17No it doesn't
- jull1234, on 01/20/2008, -1/+16The 360 owners I know who have had to send in their console outnumber the ones I know who haven't had issues. To me, this seems a bit indicative of a problem.
- Barnolde, on 01/20/2008, -4/+19The 360 being a rushed console that's cheaply made isn't news, it's common sense. Though some of his points are interesting and this is the same guy who broke Bungie leaving MS a week before it happened. MS lost so much on the Xbox, the 360 was made to obtain revenue from multiple sources; ads on the dashboard, overpriced proprietary accessories with a USB lockout that prevented non-MS things from working, microtransactions, deceptive pricing in MS points (400 points = $5 instead of 4 like Wii) ads in achievements, etc. Though you have to admit having the most unreliable console in history is a pretty good piracy deterrent.
- HappyScrappy, on 01/20/2008, -6/+21I have a friend who worked on the 360 HW design, and he never refuses to answer any of my questions. Of course, he doesn't work at MS anymore, maybe this source also no longer works there.
Maybe this person worked/works at the company in Texas that MS contracts to fix them.
The Pentagon Papers were leaked and you think info on the 360 hardware can't be? - macromorgan, on 01/20/2008, -1/+16Kia's have a 10 year, 100,000 mile warranty. Toyota's have a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. Which car would you rather have?
Why don't they just make a console that ***** works? I'd rather have an Xbox that has a 3 month warranty because it doesn't ***** need a longer warranty.
To paraphrase Tommy Boy... "all the guarantee means is that you're getting a guaranteed piece of *****." - kingmanic, on 01/20/2008, -1/+15the 3yr extension is RROD only. the 1 year covers drives.
- Forky, on 01/20/2008, -0/+14Never ever listen to those guys.
- limitbreakerx, on 01/20/2008, -3/+17This problem is a major deterrent to playing games. Every time I want to play, I'm forced to reconsider because I know that I'll have to stand there for 5 minutes ejecting and closing the drive... hoping for the disc to spin up and let me play.
- jmk4422, on 01/20/2008, -9/+22You're not alone. I buried the story as inaccurate right off the bat because, well... every word of every sentence this jerk-off wrote was inaccurate, grammatically speaking, and not in any kind of forgiving sense. When someone writes like a fifth grader, well... you start to question what they're saying.
- cthellis, on 01/20/2008, -2/+15The regular warranty does. The 3-year extension does not, but should.
- Murrabbit, on 01/20/2008, -5/+18"resulting in millions of COSTUMERS having to mail their Xbox back to Microsoft." [caps inserted for emphasis]
Haha oh wow! - digggggggggg, on 01/20/2008, -3/+1630% seems kinda high though. I don't think I've ever heard of anything this huge with a 30% rate of failure.
- Ramrodicus, on 01/20/2008, -2/+15I had to hit 'CTRL +' a couple times.
- totorototoro, on 01/20/2008, -1/+13Can't help you with the cat problem :p, but I don't see why a vertically oriented drive would necessarily chew up disks more....the Wii, the iMac, the new Dell AIO, etc, all have vertical oriented drives with no issues.
- jedikv, on 01/20/2008, -2/+14At least we can understand it.
- fxspec06, on 01/20/2008, -1/+13When you're done you can finish up by smelling your own *****. But you already did that earlier didn't you?
- Adgeman, on 01/20/2008, -1/+13glad it wasn't just me.
- zeptobyte, on 01/20/2008, -4/+16Legacy support.
- davidlow, on 01/20/2008, -0/+11Funny. That's exactly the sentence that caused me to give up reading the article and just skim the rest.
- MadDoggie, on 01/20/2008, -15/+26Doesn't standing the console up make it more likely to chew up disks? That's why I've never stood mine up. That and I have a cat that would be euphoric at the opportunity to knock my 360 off of my entertainment center.
- deadbaby, on 01/20/2008, -2/+13It may be speculation but it's probably true. We know the 360 was rushed out quicker than anyone expected and used a design that was a radical departure from the original Xbox. We know Microsoft is very competitive and will do just about anything to undercut a competitor. We also know Microsoft doesn't have much experience in consumer electronics. It all makes sense.
- MadDoggie, on 01/20/2008, -0/+10Guess I'll try to stand mine up tomorrow then and bolster it from the feline. That's what I get for listening to the guy at Gamestop.
- SideShowMel0329, on 01/20/2008, -5/+15Dugg, but I'm not 100% convinced this is genuine information. It sounded real though.
- sevenalive, on 01/20/2008, -3/+13I call BS on your comment, your just a sony fanboy spreading lies. I find it hard to believe your too lazy to fix a 400 dollar gaming machine and rather just waste your money.
- J3EBS, on 01/20/2008, -2/+12Mine is stood up. For some reason, the DVD drive doesn't open the first time I press the button. Usually it's on the 3rd or 4th try. An extra 5 seconds or so, but it's enough to make it annoying. As for ruining discs, hasn't happened here.
- kingmanic, on 01/20/2008, -3/+12Thus far, 15 people in my circle of friends have a 360. all 15 have had it replaced once, a few had it replaced twice. We're hardcore gamers but only 2 of them have had a ps2 fail on them and aside form that not noteworthy failures. 15 owners, 17 failures. Thats ridiculous.
- virtualball, on 01/20/2008, -2/+11If it's the DVD drive that's causing the RRoD, just wait for the Xbox 360 Air! :P
- mdaize, on 01/20/2008, -1/+10because they havnt enabled full rgb or super white mode
- Proctor, on 01/20/2008, -1/+10Red Circle.
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