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- MorphineJim, on 03/23/2008, -5/+147Ignoring the retard comments, let me just say that, as the writer, I gathered it wasn't going to be a wholly original piece, but I tried to put an original spin on it. I didn't know a similar article had hit Digg, otherwise ... well, I still will have written it -- just because someone picked the same subject, that doesn't exclude other people from using it now, does it? Burger King doesn't not have customers just because McDonald's do burgers too.
People need to learn the definition of the word "plagiarism" before throwing it around so casually.
(oh, and thanks for the Diggs, people who aren't being rubbish). - DarkGerbil, on 03/23/2008, -3/+102*Sniffle*
Oh Sonic...how far you've fallen... - ursername180, on 03/23/2008, -1/+98Some I would have placed on the list...
1. Bring back the Badniks - The enemies in the new Sonic games aren't very imaginative. They're mainly crappy robots that look the same. In the classic Sonic games, there were robotic wasps, robotic dinosaurs, robotic fish and even robotic chickens.
2. Bring back the surreal worlds - Places such as Mushroom Hill Zone and Sky Sanctuary weren't the sort of things you saw in every day life. We don't want to see cities and humans when playing Sonic games. We want to see places that are easily remembered because of their recognizable environments.
3. Bring back the stage themes - I remember that you used to be able to tell what type of levels there'd be in a Sonic game. There were the lush, green zones; the lava zones; the ice zones; the water zones; the space zones and the doomsday zones. Now all of a sudden we have places that aren't clearly defined.
4. Don't try to be cool - JUST DON'T!
5. Super Sonic isn't just limited to the last zone - In the past, Sonic could transform into Super Sonic once getting 50 rings. Now all of a sudden, he can only change on the last level! Why? Half of the replay value came from zooming through zones in a matter of seconds because you could run super fast. Not only that, but whatever happened to Hyper Knuckles and Turbo/Super Tails?
[/rant] - DiggityDugged, on 03/23/2008, -5/+100How to save Sonic? Throw him into the Super Smash Bros. cast. If that doesn't save him, nothing will. I gave up on Sonic after his first 3D game.
- MonsieurShak, on 03/23/2008, -3/+77"Cream the Rabbit, Big the Cat, Silver the Hedgehog, Bollocks the Badger, Registered Sex Offender the Anteater, it's endless and shameless."
Registered Sex Offender the Anteater... that was hilarious. And yeah, I totally agree, Sonic really sucks nowadays. It needs a resurrection with the quality of Mario Galaxy to retain any credibility now... and that won't happen any time soon.
On a side note, isn't Sonic Team Sega's flagship studio? Why are they so *****? - tehrich, on 03/23/2008, -3/+61Am I the only one that likes Tails?
- djSyndrome, on 03/23/2008, -0/+58No, but pretty much everyone after Knuckles has been completely unnecessary.
- Berkana, on 03/23/2008, -1/+54Sonic the hedgehog has been immortalized by having an enzyme named after him. Initially, I thought it was a joke when I saw serious medical journals referring to an enzyme as sonic hedgehog, but apparently, this is for real:
http://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/MolDev/factor/sh ...
http://doi.wiley.com/10.1002/(SICI)1096-8628(19961 ...
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcg ... - chriszilla445, on 03/23/2008, -0/+41"So far, only one character introduction has worked, because Knuckles the Echidna was the *****."
Indeed, Knuckles was the *****. - djSyndrome, on 03/23/2008, -2/+41This just might do the trick:
http://kotaku.com/371098/leaked-sonic-unleashed-fo ... - ncapone, on 03/23/2008, -0/+38He's not that bad in Smash Bros, actually. He just needs some of his old move back, like the Insta-Shield instead of 3 different spinning attacks.
- CraigReed, on 03/23/2008, -9/+45What's with all the anti 3D sonic!? Sonic Adventure was a damn fine game.
- SKick, on 03/23/2008, -0/+30Mario's team isn't completely immune to criticism. Don't forget about good 'ole Waluigi.
- roflbrothel, on 03/23/2008, -0/+30"On a side note, isn't Sonic Team Sega's flagship studio? Why are they so *****?"
Have you looked at Sega lately? It's not just Team Sonic that's lost pretty much all credibility. - mattcoady, on 03/23/2008, -1/+31Dugg for making me go out of my way and try sonic advance.
- MarkCiccone, on 03/23/2008, -0/+29I remember being about 5 years old, and being in love with the Sonic games on the SEGA GameGear, so when I found out about the cartoon show I watched it religiously.
Well one morning my mom was getting me ready for kindergarten, and she was tying my shoes. I decided to quote my hero Sonic and say "I'm WAAAAAAAITING!"
Needless to say Sonic was not allowed to be mentioned in the house ever again. - hokeywebb22, on 03/23/2008, -0/+27I think he means this article
http://digg.com/nintendo/Seven_Ways_to_Save_Sonic_ ...
it's not exactly the same but some of the titles are similar and have some of the same points but it's not copy and pasted. - KMartSheriff, on 03/23/2008, -0/+27I couldn't agree with this and #4 more.
Silver the Hedgehog? Eggman? ***** that. We don't need more ***** characters that suck (and are INCREDIBLY formulaic...Shadow is a lone wolf/has an attitude, Silver is all about intellect, etc.). Keep it simple stupid. Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik. DONE! This is the one major thing that has pissed me off since day 1.
You don't see Mario introducing new characters do you? NO. Because the old ones are iconic now. Everyone knows who ***** Luigi, Peach, etc. are or can at least recognize them. - Wade, on 03/23/2008, -2/+28If you want to save Sonic the Hedgehog you best have a ***** time machine in tow.
- wafflesomd, on 03/23/2008, -0/+25Give him chili dogs.
- KMartSheriff, on 03/23/2008, -1/+25If you truly are the author, you deserve a medal. Hope you don't mind, but I'm sending this link in an email to the Sonic Team (not that it'll prolly do anything, but hey, worth a shot).
- ncapone, on 03/23/2008, -0/+23I'm going to go play Sonic 3 and Knuckles now.
- joey368, on 03/23/2008, -0/+21I would have added a few pointers.
1. Kill all the lame characters.
2. Bring back a few of the old characters that are "claimed" by Archie.
3. Pick a cast of voice actors and STICK WITH THEM!
4. Fire those emo bands and hire some better sounding bands or for that matter make the music yourselves!
5. Quit putting Sonic in a cheesy relationship. What gave SEGA the idea he'd fare well with a human?! Come on. - alefox, on 03/23/2008, -2/+23finally someone came out and said it, please call Dr. robotnik dr. robotnik, eggman just sounds stupid (like all the 3d sonic games) keep it simple with 3 main characters, sonic, miles (tails), and knuckles. then have one bad dude, robotnik (not eggman). the original games for the genesis were the greatest (except for the 3D one, which just sucked) keep them all with that formula and keep it 2D 16bit style with "hi--def" (genesis owners should get a minor chuckle from the "hi-def") even if it's on the PS3, stick with 2D
/continues rant about how awesome the first sonic games were and how much the newer ones suck - gregulate, on 03/23/2008, -1/+21Dr. Robotnik > Eggman.
Robotnik had that kick ass giant robot mech suit in the end of Sonic 2, AND that sweet death star egg space station deal that crashed in the beginning of Sonic & Knuckles. - Culex, on 03/23/2008, -2/+22Because no matter what it is, the Japanese version is always better. Period.
oh Internet... - supremesonic, on 03/23/2008, -1/+20Even with me being a massive Sonic fan, I have to agree. Especially with the "No new characters" thing... I have a dangerously irrational hatred of Shadow, for instance. DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE NOOOOOOOOO MARIA!
- quomen, on 03/23/2008, -2/+192D
- netdroid9, on 03/23/2008, -0/+17You wouldn't if you'd heard the voice actor he(?) got for Sonic Heroes. *Shudder*
- EnderMB, on 03/23/2008, -0/+17Great article, but one niggling issue...
Bollocks the Badger would be the coolest character ever! Come on Sonic Team, you can't really stoop any lower. Let's make Sonic go out with a bang! - AmICoolNow, on 03/23/2008, -2/+19Actually, Sonic Adventure (his first 3D one) was a great game. The sequels after that started to get worse, though.
- supremesonic, on 03/23/2008, -0/+16At least you didn't do the "Fold arms and impatiently tap your foot" thing.
Oh, how much I got yelled at that day... - sdm011, on 03/23/2008, -0/+14Why are the studios afraid to release a 2d game? I would personally love to play another iteration of Donkey Kong Country even if it is 2D, or very closely related to 2D.
- thedragon4453, on 03/23/2008, -0/+14I just ran around the house really fast collecting rings and spin attacking the dog.
- Rice, on 03/23/2008, -6/+18Sonic 3 & Knuckles was the best video game ever.
Digg me up or down depending on whether or not you agree. - gradivus, on 03/23/2008, -0/+12I hope its a WW2 FPS. I never get tired of those.
- KMartSheriff, on 03/23/2008, -2/+14Oh dear God I hope that video's legit.
- xhazerdusx, on 03/23/2008, -2/+13He's there!
- albinoMithos, on 03/23/2008, -0/+11I liked tails before they gave him a voice in the games.....and then there was that crap they pulled with tails in Sonic Adventure 2......
- MasterChief4134, on 03/23/2008, -0/+11Yes.
- inactive, on 03/23/2008, -1/+12It's not just 2d games, studios are seemingly afraid to release something that isn't a FPS.
- cave, on 03/23/2008, -3/+14Just... make it 2d again. And not that retarded 3d on 2d plane crap that's been catching on lately, do it in HD 2D like the new KOF game that's coming out. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30832.html)
Sonic works much better as a cartoon. What the hell happened the the games industry, did they suddenly fire everyone that can draw at once? - bagelmaster, on 03/23/2008, -1/+12That's one of the biggest problems with the new sonics... they have story lines. I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure no one gave two ***** about the story in Sonic 1, 2 3 and Sonic and Kunckles. And they were great games. Ditch the stupid ass stories Sega.
- Wolfsoap, on 03/23/2008, -2/+12All good points, but Dugg for:
"Cream the Rabbit, Big the Cat, Silver the Hedgehog, Bollocks the Badger, Registered Sex Offender the Anteater" - Rice, on 03/23/2008, -0/+10He would rather flex his muscles.
- MikeXpop, on 03/23/2008, -2/+11Honestly, that looked like a whole lot more of "hold the analog stick for 2 hours". The only difference is it's 2.5D, so you're holding it to the right instead of up.
And I *really* hope that was an early build of the physics engine. Those jumps and accelerations looked so unnatural (compared to other sonic games) - dualscreenman, on 03/23/2008, -2/+11Eggman == Robotnik. Localization changed the name when Sonic Adventure was translated into English.
But yeah, screw all these extra buffoons. - Travelsonic, on 03/23/2008, -1/+10In Sonic & Knuckles, I had Super Sonic by Mushroom Hill Zone act 2 - that is not by any stretch of the imagination late in the game.
- punchinelli, on 03/23/2008, -4/+13The article says that the Sonic Team never managed to produce a good 3-D Sonic game - this is *****. Sonic Adventure for Dreamcast was ***** excellent. A bit different, but damn good. One of the best platformers for its time. I think 3-D is still doable and could revitalize Sonic. You can make a 3-D Sonic game extremely fast - some of those levels in Sonic Adventure nearly made me motion sick they were so fast (if you were good!) Here's to the Dreamcast /shot of whiskey
- dualscreenman, on 03/23/2008, -0/+9In Sonic 3 (and Knuckles) you can get all the emeralds by Marble Garden zone, leaving you half the game with Super Sonic if you're playing Sonic 3 and 75% of the game if you have Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
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