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- skamper, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38Pictures [of it in action] or it didn't happen.
- Tikkimann, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Well, it says they're near completion ,so I guess we'll see them soon. The title's more than a little unfair, though...Holographic Video is Coming To Your PC and Gaming Console...several years after Mark IV comes out. It says at the end that Mark III displays miniature screens in monochrome, so even if an improved version does come out soon, it'd probably end up as a modern-day Virtual Boy, in more ways than one.
Plus, this is probably in the topic; the article gears towards a video-gaming perspective, but this is, all in all, a technological breakthrough. - MtnXfreerider, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3never practical.. needs moar work
- sysoprock, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Great, now that Ashton Kutcher ***** will be standing in the middle of my living room rather than silently living in mute on my television.
- Tunguska, on 10/12/2007, -6/+31Greetings, Exalted One. Allow me to introduce
myself. I am Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight and
friend to Captain Solo. I know that you are
powerful, mighty Jabba, and that your anger
with Solo must be equally powerful. I seek an
audience with Your Greatness to bargain for
Solo's life. (Jabba's crowd laughs) With your
wisdom, I'm sure that we can work out an
arrangement which will be mutually beneficial
and enable us to avoid any unpleasant
confrontation. As a token of my goodwill, I
present to you a gift: these two droids. - xniL, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi! You're my only hope!
- attractivetb, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4I hope it's at least as good as Time Traveler was...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Traveler_(video_game) - bysin, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Judging by the comments, a lot people aren't reading this article correctly.. When they say holographic, they don't mean like on star wars, its more like those little holographic stickers that appear to be 3d.
- Psykus2, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5"Pictures [of it in action] or it didn't happen."
Can you read? Did you even bother to read the Digg description?
"A team of MIT researchers has proposed a way.." - ipodman715, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I wonder if this will be used in the next Nintendo console...
- sleze, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1My sega master system has been doing this for years...
- OwdenBowden, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I cannot wait until the first Vivid Holodisk to come out.
- Kallstar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For those of you interested in 3D rendering check out the video on the lower right corner of this site to get an idea of what we have today. Its not holographic, but it is 3D.
http://www.3dscreen.ramboll.dk/ - Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've heard of a special holographic screen in the works a few years back. The idea was to take the standard monitor but put layers on top of layers of multiple screens with different opacities. The result is much like the hologram cards where the image you see from one angle won't be the same as seeing it at a different angle. I don't think it was too practical which is probably why I haven't heard any thing about it.
- Himself, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2comdex. 1997. sony.
these guys are a bit late
- Tikkimann, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Well, it says they're near completion ,so I guess we'll see them soon. The title's more than a little unfair, though...Holographic Video is Coming To Your PC and Gaming Console...several years after Mark IV comes out. It says at the end that Mark III displays miniature screens in monochrome, so even if an improved version does come out soon, it'd probably end up as a modern-day Virtual Boy, in more ways than one.
- tehbored, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54Gaming?! Just imagine what this could do for PORN!!
- Tunguska, on 10/12/2007, -17/+3Getting real pussy is holographic... so don't wait for imitations.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Even better, just imagine what a real women could do that no porn could ever imitate!
- eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6No, I don't think he wants to imagine that. Too depressing.
- kidd3ckz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8ahahah imagine what a real woman can do that a microwaved bananapeel can't...
cook... clean....
complain
- JrGhoull, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2"few hundred bucks" so its basically in range of a decent monitor...it wont be super high quality like some of the current ones are but who the ***** cares cuz its 3 ***** d! gotta admit...i dont know what the point of this would be...i mean...when they get to the point of the holadecks i understand...but otherwise? i could understand wanting to wach porn in 3d, and sports games (things that u want to be able to see from all angles) but otherwise? you could make games that will take special advantage of such technology...but i dont see things like fps getting any better with his (until, again, we ge to the point of holadecks) still though, something like this has been wanted for a long time....as long as its reliable and isnt too costly (and they say it isnt going o be) then i welcome our new monitor overloards. what this WILL help with GREATLY is a new type of desktop interface and new form of web browsing experience will come about (as well as new laptops?)
- Kragnerac, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5Outdated. The PS3 can do four-dimensional graphics!
- TKn00b, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23I think every current gen console can render 4D graphics. I was always under the impression that the 4th dimension was time. Am i wrong?
- chingy1788, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2They done 2D skipped 3D and went right on to 4D cause 3D ain't as good as 4D
hehehe - Elshender, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@tkn00b
Yeah, the 4th dimension is time. But if the game was made in the 4th dimension, you'd be able to see your character as well as its past and future self. Kinda like TimeSplitters, but crazier. - beckerist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Wow...so apparently there are no rabid PS3 fanboi's to take advantage of your flamebait seed there krag. I got the joke though...clever!
- Pikachelsea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@beckerist:
That's not flamebait, you tard. He is obviously making a sarcastic reference to an ACTUAL QUOTE from Ken Kutaragi that the PS3 is in "4-D".
Well, it should've been obvious, but I forgot I'm on digg where fanboys scan any post for what appears to be praise for the system they don't like and bury it.
- stagbeetle, on 10/12/2007, -20/+74D is something only black people can see.
- LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I don't get it. Was that a ***** joke, or am I missing the correlation?
- Rcdriver, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3You better hope Al Sharpton doesn't read your comment.
- drapelyk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@Rcdriver
It's all fine and dandy... just don't let Sharpton catch you saying "4D is something only white people can see." That would be unfair. - trelixus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1You know people with green eyes can't see dogs. All they hear is the barking
- im2emo4myshrt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19My first edition holographic charizard is better.
- LeftOffTheArk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0I had to digg you up. To receive that first holographic card feeling again.
Oh yes, the holowatzit... good, tell me when its out.
- LeftOffTheArk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0I had to digg you up. To receive that first holographic card feeling again.
- geuisteses, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Don't wanna burst the holo bubble, but you gotta see the last paragraph:
"Bove and his team currently have a fourth generation of system lined up, which will be able to display an image as large as a desktop PC monitor; in contrast, the current system's displays are only about the size of a Rubik's Cube. Also, the current display is only capable of monochromatic holograms, but the fourth generation will have a full range of colors, Bove says."
So, they haven't actually completed the Mark III, its only the about size of a 3x3 inch square, and shows images in 1 color.
Yeah, I think I'll wait a while on this guys.- UberNick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Even if the holographic display area is a cubic foot, I'm still curious about how we'll view a virtual area larger than that. Perhaps, from what I visualize, we'll have a free-floating 3D view within our display area (currently 3x3x3) and the rest of the virtual area will be projected on a curved background wall (and maybe floor/ceiling). This would be awesome if we had some pics of it working!
- xmuzik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5the sad thing about the future is that some studio or half assed developer will find some way to make the entire experience suck & still manage to charge top dollar for it.....
- Ourai, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Only if Microsoft gets marketing rights. Windows: Now With A 3D Vista!
A whole new dimension of bugs; what fun! - jasondefaoite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Flip 4D ?
- odinfire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Those capitalist pigs!
- Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1just imagine if someone patented this now, and then never used the patent
- donjuan571, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1loyalist redcoats!
- 0000hGulag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yeah: TRM
Thought Rights Management
(for the port in the back of your head for the data)
- Ourai, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Only if Microsoft gets marketing rights. Windows: Now With A 3D Vista!
- reitsu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2If this story is actually true, and the device actually works. Then human technology has advanced so much in such a short timeframe.
- AdmiralAdama, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Just for kicks:
“General Kenobi, Years ago, you served my father in the Clone Wars; now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to present my father's request to you in person; but my ship has fallen under attack and I'm afraid my mission to Alderaan has failed. I've placed information vital to the survival of the rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you're my only hope.”- humpy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3old
- Kevinok, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Wow, I've always wanted one of those.
- scratt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I hope it's for real.. I can't help but be skeptical.. It seems there must be a physical limit of how many 3D points a system like this can process in one frame.
So we could end up with quite sparse holographic scenes initially, based on my understnading of how it works...
But in any case I think that is the first tech article to give me a partial boner in quite a few years... ;)- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TMI.
- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"I'll believe it when i see it" - And by that i mean, i'll believe it when i see it in a shop for less then £1,000.
- radmin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Be cool if they work it out so you coule get one of those fog machines and set it up in your livingroom.
- 0000hGulag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nothing says high class like sticky fog residue over everything in your living room!
- judgeFire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It's been awhile since Mark II, the previous generation they keep referring to. Papers, pics and videos of the older (still impressive) stuff:
http://www.media.mit.edu/spi/ - HUKI365, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What is the point of 3d? Are you really going to move around to see different points of view? Even looking at real live sport for example, you are only ever looking at a 2d image. It only becomes 3d when you move seat, and as soon as you sit down its just 2d again.
I don't see the point, but am ready to be won over.- judgeFire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It adds a feeling of reality and depth through both stereo vision (stereopsis) and changes in the scene as you slightly move your head (occlusion,motion parallax), even if just sitting on your sofa. Small movements count. The result would pretty much resemble looking out a window, with the slight exception that your house will be doing tilts, dollys and flying past skyscrapers.
It presents challenges to filmmakers and directors, but opens up all kinds of new ways of doing stuff, too. It'll be fun. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3It will appear more realistic. You have two eyes, and the slightly different 2D images they receive are composed into a 3D image in your brain. Duh. Besides, you get to see the spear coming right at you! Here comes the train!
- xaos12, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0(edit)
nevermind i was beaten to it... twice - konradk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@HUKI: It's 3d if you or the object on the screen moves. I think it's a big deal.
- judgeFire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It adds a feeling of reality and depth through both stereo vision (stereopsis) and changes in the scene as you slightly move your head (occlusion,motion parallax), even if just sitting on your sofa. Small movements count. The result would pretty much resemble looking out a window, with the slight exception that your house will be doing tilts, dollys and flying past skyscrapers.
- BrokenLaptop, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This sucks. I just got a brand new 21" LCD dell.
- Pikachelsea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh stop whining, this technology isn't going to be available to consumers for years. RTFA.
- systemghost, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1***** awesome.
- Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1As simple as that, give me a good VR anyday. If it was not for some sci-fi authors to find holographic video cool now nobody would have been concerned with it. Please MIT forward your resources to paradigm shifts and not to some flashy screening method which would stop looking cool after 10 minutes are passed....
- xaos12, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I agree, for most applications a VR display would be superior and vastly easier to make. Games, for instance, generally need a huge volume to be displayed (an entire game world) which would be much easier to do by just directing separate video signals to each eye.
- Pikachelsea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"As simple as that, give me a good VR anyday."
Haha, I love how you say that as if there are currently any VR systems in existence that consumers can freely buy. Anywhere.
Get your nose out of your sci-fi novels and join us back in reality plz.
Only on digg do the nerds criticize an emerging technology because it supposedly doesn't match up to a different non-existent technology they've also never used. Amazing. - Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have never ever read any sci-fi book, ever. As for the technology I think you have to see a bit further, oled HMDs are half a decade away, brain-computer interfaces are already here (OCZ headband), sound (headphones) are already here, the computing hardware is already here (DX10, multicore CPUs). Basically we only need Oled to become the norm and VR software to emerge, 2015 is not an exaggeration for the first convincing VR to come out. Those holographic screens are a lot more sci-fi stuff and it's a lot more far way from our age than VR (which is consisted by many separate parts of which more than half already exists circa 2007), you are the one who have to get you nose out of your sci-fi books and become more of a realist instead of looking at "emerging technologies" with no practical value apart from their flashy nature....
- SomaSynth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I doubt it is. Aside from the fact it will be very expensive for any device that can give good image quality, the sense of depth will be limited to the position of the display itself. That is, no sense of spacial dimension of objects very close to your face or very far away.
This would probably be a great presentational and 3D design tool, but very unconvincing for games/videos. Stereoscopic displays will be the ones that will be coming to "Your PC and Gaming Console". The technology is far simpler and the effect is far more impressive. - Psykus2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I could see this working if the TVs/displays were marketed and sold along side normal TVs, and have them be compatible with standard non-holographic/2D content. You'd walk into Target or somewhere, and see a line of standard TVs, then maybe beside it, a "holographic" TV, maybe costing a bit more. It says it could already be compatible with video game systems and PCs, so it wouldn't be a big stretch to say they could make it work with normal television, just in a flat/2D mode. If it intends to replace standard TVs, I don't see it working out, unless there was a huge push toward it.
The article also doesn't seem to mention if these displays would need any sort of special input to work. PCs and gaming consoles could definitely process the 3D imagery needed for the displays, but there's no mention of if they could be sent over normal video cables, like component/HDMI/etc. If not, game consoles would have to be manufactured to support the displays, which would rule out the current generation (Wii, PS3, Xbox360) for any holographic action.
Neat idea, but it might be a while before you actually start to see it.- 0000hGulag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1just imagine station watermarks in 3d whizzing around in your content!
- BillBoyd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1All I have to say is picture this:
You're standing before your holoboard, pondering your next move. Your opponent, who you're playing with via wifi has just moved his archers into range of your commander, and has a volley set up on your advancing unit. You have cavalry in range that can get over there and attack before the majority of the damage is done, but the problem is you were using them to scout - on a board like this, fog of war is killer.
Concerned, you pace around the board, thinking it out before you make your move. This is you 11th bout with this person, even though Medeival Tactics: Hologram has just been released four days ago. You've lost a lot of sleep, but the draw of the the three dimensional battlefield is one you haven't been able to pull away from.
Welcome to your new addiction.- 0000hGulag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1fortunately for the gene pool rpg addiction is not dominant... those controlled by the trait are less likely to pollute the gene pool
win win
- 0000hGulag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1fortunately for the gene pool rpg addiction is not dominant... those controlled by the trait are less likely to pollute the gene pool
- slearwig, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Using signal amplitude to generate vibrations in order to control the apparent
directions of the image light sounds like brute force instead of using precision recording,
processing and playback techniques.
I mean, shouldn't the source of a hologram be the camera and monitor
and not by synthesis? - slearwig, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Using signal amplitude to control a vibrating plate in order to synthesize the apparent direction of
image light sounds like brute force.
I mean, shouldn't the source of a holographic display be based on a system of true holographic
recording and playback and not by synthesis? - truegodofwar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Proabably going to be Vista only. This we fun editing xorg.conf It was hard enough to get the dvi port working.
- donjuan571, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I just spent about an hour on MIT's holographic website, and I still do not understand like, the screen. There has to be a medium that its being projected on right? Oh who knows I will just have to wait.
- mattabb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1at last I can finally begin planning my attack on the deathstar!
- Spacejack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'm not sure this can work with conventional gaming, not till I see the "screen" itself... most of today's 3-d gaming is built around rendering a background. If this is a screen, it would still work, but if it's some kind of projector that allows you to see around objects, I can't see how conventional games could possibly work on it. There have been some 3-d imagers around for years now in prototype stages, and the ones that look the most interesting are the medical ones that pretty much do a "hologram" (god knows whether it actually is one, "hologram" is a pretty corrupted word). But they're pretty much designed around the display of a single 3-d object. It would be simple to expand that to multiple objects, but if it's a projected field without a screen, the background would just wind up occluding the objects and you'd see it from the wrong side.
- vdog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I've been a Harold Zoid fan since back when my hips were made of bone.
- TexanPsycho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Of course it has to work with computer hardware, otherwise it wouldn't be possible! In other news: tires have to fit car wheels...
- slearwig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"There have been some 3-d imagers around for years now in prototype stages, and the ones that look the most interesting are the medical ones that pretty much do a "hologram" (god knows whether it actually is one, "hologram" is a pretty corrupted word). But they're pretty much designed around the display of a single 3-d object. It would be simple to expand that to multiple objects, but if it's a projected field without a screen, the background would just wind up occluding the objects and you'd see it from the wrong side."
If you mean lenticular 3D LCD computer monitors, they've been available to the public
for several years from companies such as Sharp and Phillips and others.
No longer prototypes as far as these monitors go.
http://www.stereo3d.com/displays.htm- 0000hGulag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the Philips was most convincing
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=philipswowda0.jpg
- 0000hGulag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the Philips was most convincing
- grumbel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Being 3D isn't enough, it must also compete with traditional 2D screen when it comes to simple tasks such as displaying text. If the display can't do that, it simply won't be much suitable for daily use and thus never gain much widespread acceptance beside a few nice markets. Over the years a lot of 3D techniques have come and go, none however ever sticked.
- DarkDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Imagine Beryl on a Holographic screen!
3d spinning cubes in 3d!
=P~
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