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- ashton20042005, on 05/10/2008, -21/+135they really are pathetic for doing this,,,talking about unethical practices,,,,,
- Azimuth1, on 05/10/2008, -26/+121What happened here is that Gametrailers accidentally labelled what is clearly footage of the PS3 version as the 360 version. That's why they pulled it from their site. The professional video editors at Gametrailers.com are grown men with full time jobs. They're not 360 fanboys trying to make their console look better. They don't give a *****.
How does more exciting crashes in one set of clips indicate that that console has "better physics"? It's the same game. The same code is running on two different machines. "Better physics" is meaningless.
Also, do you honestly believe that they thought that nobody would notice the icons in the corner? - tciny, on 05/10/2008, -12/+92GT is owned by MTV, which is owned by Viacom which is in bed with Microsoft. Just google "Viacom Microsoft" to see what deals they have recently made. So no surprises here...
- TheEndzor, on 05/10/2008, -26/+94They Banned People on the forums for saying GT are biased and they deleted all topics on the forums that prove they are
Freedom of Speech is dead on that Site...
This is disgusting for a Website/company to do this - bunty1, on 05/10/2008, -27/+96Is ANYONE really surprised? I mean LOOK at their GTA4 trailer:
they show POPIN for the PS3 version when it's been confirmed by tons of game review sites that the 360 version had massive/worse popin problems while on the PS3 it was very rare because of the installation.
Yet not one footage in their comparison from the 360 version had popin. - cli006, on 05/10/2008, -17/+81I don't understand why 360 fanboys working for gaming sites love to pull this *****.
This is just like how they used to compare Xbox 360 before HDMI with PS3 component cables even though all PS3s came with HDMI. They also love to crank up the brightness for PS3 screenshots to wash out details. I remember a review for a Virtua Tennis for PS3/360 and they completely washed out the screenshots for PS3. I played the game for PS3 and the ingame with HDMI was NOTHING like the screenshots provided.
Stop the bias reviews, this is getting ridiculous. - jacksons98, on 05/10/2008, -6/+62In general I like gametrailers, but these "phony" comparisons need to stop. Every single time they get called out it's the X360 version artificially benefitting. It's getting ridiculous...
- sarin, on 05/10/2008, -20/+66That's ***** typical gametrailers *****!
This needs to be put out there more, I'm waiting for GT to comment on this. - asspants, on 05/10/2008, -7/+50you're invoking "Freedom of Speech" on a website that may or may not be hosted in the united states, and regardless of whether or not it is located in the US, even though it's open to the public it still is a private website.
freedom of speech is to protect you when you speak out against the US government. not going into someone's private space and calling them out for being douchebags. retard. - dansmeek, on 05/10/2008, -11/+54gaemtrailers is a joke. their refusal to admit that they were using PS3 footage with limited RGB and limited white (which makes the graphics washed out), along with their pathetic excuses......
I'm not quite sure why they favor the xbox. maybe their core readers are more about the 360 than the PS3 and they are just trying to cater to that. but they have proved time and time again they are not an unbiased source and should be treated as such. - rajputwarrior, on 05/10/2008, -5/+45gamespot v2?
- cli006, on 05/10/2008, -4/+45I really don't understand how people complain about an 8 minute install to improve load times and performance. With a standard HD, developers can program games to actually put it to use besides game saves.
I mean seriously, I'd rather have 8 minutes install to make a sandwich or something. I waited half a year for GTA IV, what's 8 more minutes? It's a perk, not a negative point. - 000dom000, on 05/10/2008, -9/+43It's a shame because gametrailers usually deliver good quality material. That said, we have seen it before, noticeably with Assassins Creed...
- dansmeek, on 05/10/2008, -7/+39while i agree with the spirit of your post..... these people's full time jobs are running that website (unless i guess if it's a sidegig) and i just get the impression they phone in their work. maybe not fanboy, probably just lazy. both are negative traits.
- philwalsh, on 05/10/2008, -2/+34What the ***** has happened to gaming web sites?
I've stopped trusting every one of them, especially since the whole Gamespot issue. - Username2324, on 05/10/2008, -5/+32We all already knew they were biased from their Burnout, GTA4 and DMC4 video comparisons, but this tops it all. GT is now dead.
- Myonosken, on 05/10/2008, -7/+30Ugh. Look this is ***** practice and signs of a ***** useless company, but this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. They are free to to delete comments from their board for whatever reason they like.
- JayD16, on 05/10/2008, -1/+24You're understanding that concept wrong.
DVDs spin at the same angular rate. This mean bits move across the read head faster at the edge of the disc. So read speed is faster at the edge than at the center of the disc.
BRs spin at the same linear rate across the read head. This means that the disc is spun at different rates depending on where it is being read from so that the same number of bits/second pass across the read head.
Although the PS3's read speed is lower then the 360s peak speed it is the 360 is slower overall, especially on dual layer DVDs. It considered a wash overall. I have yet to see definitive studies of transfer speed for the two machines point either way.
Studios are using the hard drive because it is much faster then reading from disc (DVD or BR). Saying using the hard drive is lazy is like saying using the scaler chip or using accelerated graphics or code libraries is lazy. This hardware is there to be used. - socivitus, on 05/10/2008, -0/+20I had no clue about that.
+digg for the info - noots, on 05/10/2008, -0/+20i thought the hard drive installation made for quicker data access, presumably it's quicker accessing building textures and models from a HD rather than a dvd-drive, no?
- Darksoul, on 05/10/2008, -5/+23Sorry anybody defending them needs to get a reality check they are banning people just to shut them up. And please don't hand me the ***** that it was just a mistake this many mistakes don't exist for a company like this its not like they are just a "website" they are owned by spike tv now. Its either they don't want to be proven wrong on their console choice like true fan-boys or they are being paid off by m$ lets not kid ourselves us people that went to the original gametrailers.com made that site what it is and m$ knows that look how big gt has got since they first started.
There is no reason for what they are doing. - chris9902, on 05/10/2008, -7/+25Who the hell takes these seriously? You're trying to compare a HD game by looking at a 320x240 video compressed in Flash.
It's a joke but it keeps the fanboys coming back. - RedHawk911, on 05/10/2008, -3/+21Who cares, GRID sucks;)
- JayD16, on 05/10/2008, -0/+18"The harddrive installation has NOTHING to do with the popin"
The installation has everything to do with pop in. That's almost everything it does. I could go into the details of memory allocation and texture streaming but you can look it up.
Pop in is when a texture should be displayed and it isn't in memory ( or if you use mipmapping a lower res version of the texture). The hard drive can stream data into memory faster then the optical disk drive and this speed means that textures are in memory when the need to be. - jfowler27, on 05/10/2008, -2/+17more better?
- AbelVoicu, on 05/10/2008, -7/+22Ok "massive" I think is a bit of an overstatement. Both consoles have pop-in, the ps3 might have less, but even on the 360 I barely ever notice it.
- ArkAngel06, on 05/11/2008, -1/+15The site has HD game videos, that load very fast, and usually no commercials before the videos....and if there is a video, you can skip it....The site is better than any other site for watching video game previews.
- enronias, on 05/10/2008, -5/+21Who is more lame, the people that make false comparisons between systems, or the people the feel the need to compare different systems that offer different strengths in order to start some fanboy flamewar instead of just playing a game on the system they have or enjoy the most?
- j4200, on 05/11/2008, -1/+13Because they're owned by MTV networks. MTV and the xbox division of MS have been in bed together for a long time now.
- BigBrasky, on 05/10/2008, -5/+17Honestly, I haven't really noticed any pop-in on my 360 version. I'm sure it's happened, but It's not even noticeable. Regardless, both versions of the game are kick ass, period.
- Ethion, on 05/10/2008, -2/+14I'm a 360 fanboy.. But on this note you're completely wrong.. sry mate.
- shoguner, on 05/10/2008, -0/+12yes , the incidents are different , but both share the lack of journalistic integrity.
- rick2k, on 05/10/2008, -3/+14First Gamespot and now GameTrailers, How many more game sites will lose my confidence?
Shame as i loved some of their stuff..
Microsoft must be shelling out big $$$ for this *****. Bye GT. - mbauer14, on 05/10/2008, -3/+14"And the ps3 has better physics because of the processor"
So the processor in the PS3 makes it act more realistically than a 360 if you throw both down a hill?
A console doesn't have better "physics" unless it has a built-in physics engine. It might be able to process more calculations more quickly, but you are just wrong. - SpankyPants, on 05/10/2008, -2/+13Q: Who is more lame...
A: people that make false comparisons between systems.
Where does that leave people that have both systems, and would like to read honest reviews, so that they can buy the best version? - Czin644, on 05/10/2008, -1/+10I don't think that word means what you think it means...
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -6/+15yes I remember that. After watching the video, I felt really bad for buying the ps3 version.
- HydrogenOxide, on 05/10/2008, -2/+12At this point, i'm effing sick of this war. I like PS3, I still play Halo, SMG, and Civ 4. My friend likes 360, but he still comes over to play Wii Tennis and Warhawk Co-Op.
Does it really matter which sells better? Everyone still gets to enjoy themselves. - fadetoone, on 05/10/2008, -4/+14Indeed. This is just another entry in the ever increasing attempts of gametrailers to show bias. The assassin's creed video was the best example of it...
- Cimlite, on 05/10/2008, -3/+128 minutes tops... OK.
The 20 something minute install for Devil May Cry... not so much. - jrbrewin, on 05/10/2008, -1/+10if they wanted hits from this 'controvosy' why did they take the video down?
- MaxPayne3476, on 05/10/2008, -2/+10AHH! The run-on sentence makes my eyes bleed.
- MattFromSeattle, on 05/10/2008, -1/+9Is nothing sacred anymore? If I can't trust news on the internet, who can I trust?
- xdr34, on 05/10/2008, -3/+12*****
- daizaru, on 05/11/2008, -1/+8The thing that people should be taking issue with but aren't is the look of the game when it's labeled as xbox and the look when it's labeled as PS3.
The "Xbox" clip is nice and crisp looking. The "Actual PS3" clip the graphics are ugly and there's a ton of color bleeding.
This is where the bias really shines through if you ask me. The other problem is just going to be shrugged off as a simple mistake at labeling. - spectecjr, on 05/10/2008, -2/+9IIRC, there was a firmware update for PS3 which fixed the black levels around the time Virtua Tennis was released. Just sayin'
- santasing, on 05/11/2008, -2/+9I would think that this was an honest mistake if they did not tone down the PS3 footage to make the 360 footage look better.
- Owwmykneecap, on 05/10/2008, -1/+9circle and b are both red...
CONSPIRACY!
who knew that the primary colours could be so popular... - DarkDx, on 05/11/2008, -1/+8So it's like their grandson "gametrailers" is in bed with his grandfather! Gross!
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