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- slamtv7, on 12/02/2007, -4/+255I can see a new game review site emerging at the end of this with the original editors.
- chris9902, on 12/02/2007, -3/+132I'd support it. It's about time somebody stepped up and stopped scoring games on 7-10 scale.
- boing11, on 12/02/2007, -13/+137Has anyone asked Ron Paul for his opinion on all of this yet?
- john2kx, on 12/02/2007, -5/+80Was I the only one looking for the rest of this "article"? Buried.
- AntBing, on 12/02/2007, -2/+64You are awesome!! Please cancel your Digg account. Thanks.
- childprey, on 12/02/2007, -3/+51He'd say a company is free to do whatever the ***** they want.
- toastgodsupreme, on 12/02/2007, -2/+49No way, he's probably sitting at home with his wife enjoying every minute. He's going to keep his mouth shut and possibly end up with a better job than he was fired from. :)
- boing11, on 12/02/2007, -5/+51Blogspam.
Link to original article here:
http://www.gamespot.com/users/AlexN/show_blog_entr ... - b3mus3d, on 12/02/2007, -2/+431. Terrible
2. Bad
3. Enjoyable
4. Very good
5. Fantastic, amazing
I honestly don't see the need for any more than that. Variation in opinion makes more accurate scales pretty pointless, in my opinion. - Rev0lver, on 12/02/2007, -8/+49Ein volk! Ein reich! Ein Gamespot!
- Ajenthavoc, on 12/02/2007, -6/+40This right here is a perfect example of a functional system.
1. Company blatantly back stabs consumer
2. Consumer realizes, gets angry, and boycotts company
3. Company and its competitors learn to cater more to consumer.
This is how 99% of industries should work. Usually the only time this system fails is when the natural feedback mechanism is circumvented -- as in the case of ISPs and telecom companies -- by the government being in cahoots with a "special interest group".
Free market economics 101 - Myst3r1o, on 12/02/2007, -5/+39And everything you just said is opinionated. lol.
Anyways... - chris9902, on 12/02/2007, -0/+33I have no problem with a 1-10 scale but when people don't mark a game (no matter how bad) lower than a 6 what's the point?
Like how many people went ape ***** when Zelda got an 8.8. 8.8 is a good score but it didn't get a 9.5 or 10 so it must be crap. That's the standard people have set and it needs to change. - sockpuppets, on 12/02/2007, -1/+27...because chubby video game playing nerds are on every milf's "to do" list.
- NeoCortex, on 12/02/2007, -1/+26They should just join Rev3. Then we get former TechTV people along with reliable reviewers. It would be like the anti-media.
- banmaster, on 12/02/2007, -0/+24Its NOT about one guy getting fired. Its about the REASON he was fired.
A journalist having to alter his work simply because of who is advertising in their particular medium is a very bad thing and if it went unreported would negatively change the game-site 'industry' as a whole. Not that I am ignorant and think its doesn't happen all the time, but as a consumer who DOESN'T want to be force fed crap as a non-biased review this sacking will hopefully be a warning to other game sites not to accept your 6 pieces of silver!! - gypsi, on 12/02/2007, -0/+23truly - and on top of that there's this whole gamespot/cnet thing
- trumasamune, on 12/02/2007, -0/+21Yeah...actually it is, lol.
- dood, on 12/02/2007, -0/+21The best result of all of this would be for game developers to stop making awful games, and to stop trying to use marketing to make up the difference. I'm not naive enough to believe this will happen, though, but I can dream.
- Protonz, on 12/02/2007, -2/+23Zero Punctuation Reviews don't suck...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/edit ... - dagamer34, on 12/02/2007, -1/+21For those people wondering WTF: http://www.virtualfools.com/games/jeff-gerstmann/
Nice recap of the entire story with sources. - gypsi, on 12/02/2007, -3/+22he probably couldn't talk even if he wanted to for legal reasons. that's how it works with real jobs
- NeonFire, on 12/02/2007, -0/+17Goodbye Gamespot.
- kingUssop, on 12/02/2007, -0/+17Eidos/CNET/Gamespot better get on the ball firing the journalistically amoral execs... or I see a long term boycott by a lot of people.
- gregulate, on 12/02/2007, -4/+21I can't figure out why you're being dug down.
- gypsi, on 12/02/2007, -0/+15why'd you post then?
- MoeWasHere, on 12/02/2007, -0/+15INTERNET to GameSpot: "Glad to be of service." *wink* *nod* *salute* *pearly whites glistening*
- aboyd, on 12/02/2007, -0/+14Wait, what? Alex is not the hiring manager. Nor is he the guy who fired Jeff. How is he the one that caused this disaster? Maybe you're thinking of Stephen, the new VP from Maxim who came in last month to shake up Gamespot. Or maybe you're thinking of Josh, the guy who maybe actually did the firing, or who at least defended it to employees. Josh is discussed here:
http://valleywag.com/tech/jeff-gerstmann/gamespot- ...
Alex is just an editor watching upper management make self-destructive decisions. I don't think he had anything to do with the firing. - wilf_brim, on 12/02/2007, -0/+14A "disaster". You think? Welcome to obvious land. And, BTW, it isn't just a disaster for Gamespot. Since it was CNET that did the wet work, all CNET properties are (in my opinion and many others) are now suspect. CNET had better do some massive damage control on Monday and Tuesday. But they are going to have to get over their denial first.
- boing11, on 12/02/2007, -1/+15Uh, somebody already did. Welcome to yesterday.
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Destructoid_Changes_Na ... - inactive, on 12/02/2007, -0/+14maybe you should try getting over it.
- PeppermintPig, on 12/03/2007, -0/+13Don't Even Rent It, Okay, Don't Say I Didn't Warn You
Rent, But Don't Buy
If You Like This Genre, Buy
A Good Buy
Even If You Don't Have The System, You Might Want To Consider It - gypsi, on 12/02/2007, -1/+14i dont need a boycott to avoid cnet.com - that site is garbage
- t3he, on 12/02/2007, -0/+13People who don't give a *****, Please don't give us *****.
- cecinestpasvrai, on 12/02/2007, -0/+12Well yeah, actually, that is opinionated. I've yet to see any large scale study of gaming journalism, or any other kind of critical work (film, literature) coming to this conclusion. If you've seen one, or maybe conducted one in secret (that would explain why I didn't know about it) please share it here. The nature of Digg is that if enough people want to see something and comment on something, it will hit the front page. It is, in itself, a barometer of public interest in a topic. You are just one person, and have decided the entire community should drop the topic. Go start a blog instead.
- EdgarVerona, on 12/02/2007, -9/+21The funniest thing is that he claims someone else "hit the disaster button" for him.
I think he needs to extend his Sim City analogy further so he can finally realize what really happened. "Firing a reviewer because he gave a bad review to an advertiser's product, revealing that Gamespot has no journalistic integrity once and for all" was the Disaster button. And he pounded that button. Hard. - chris9902, on 12/02/2007, -0/+11He has to look for another job. It's not going to win him any fans if he rants about Gamespot.
- cecinestpasvrai, on 12/02/2007, -1/+12Go post at AICN with every other child that thinks their high position on the page in a TOTALLY OPEN FORUM is some type of accomplishment.
- Tippis, on 12/02/2007, -1/+11"Mindless nonsense"?
Talking too fast for you, is he? - MrFisty, on 12/03/2007, -0/+10Thank you. For ages I felt like the only one who was sick to death of the 7-10 system.
"How was the game?"
"It was average"
"What score did you give it?"
"An 8" - mstump, on 12/03/2007, -3/+13I'm sure it's the subset of Digg users who simply look for any comment with -1 or fewer diggs and digg it down without even reading the comment. Pack mentality. Where's the Digg whisperer when you need him?
- battlefield1985, on 12/02/2007, -0/+10Give him a show on Revision3.
- neo1513, on 12/02/2007, -0/+9Merriam-Webster : Journalism: Writing designed to appeal to current popular taste or public interest
Just because its a new medium, doesnt mean its not journalism, Id say video games spark a lot of public interest - EvilFerret, on 12/02/2007, -0/+9I'm sure his lawyer told him to keep quiet for now.
- canthraxp, on 12/02/2007, -0/+9Simcity was about building? ..... that explains a lot.
- HardwareLust, on 12/02/2007, -0/+8I would hardly consider some troll on digg to be qualified to comment on what is and isn't journalism.
- onionoino, on 12/02/2007, -1/+9multiplayer
- MadOgre, on 12/02/2007, -0/+8Negative reviews impact magazine ad revenue. You should have seen what happened when I reviewed the HK P2000 for Concealed Carry Magazine, calling it average and "perfectly adequate". HK, who has never been given a review short of fellatio, blew a gasket. Since then HK has not advertised with CCM. Same thing with the video game industry, but even more harsh because while there a ton of gun makers, there are very few publishing houses for video games. So when one of the big game machines that advertises with you cranks out a stinker, the game rags have to paint that pig with a ton of lipstick.
- mCanada, on 12/02/2007, -1/+9I'm interested in this not because of the videogame aspect. This is about big corporations and the ability to stifle a journalist's ability to have some freedom in his or her domain. It's sad how the Internet is no longer the "voice of the people" but the voice of the shareholders or the voice of the rich CEO. In 1994 you would log on and you would know that the person's opinion on the other end did matter. Yeah I'm being naive but how things have changed.
- Mrstupid7, on 12/02/2007, -0/+8The key word being "could."
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