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- Nudar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+82Notice how the article does not provide a shred of evidence to back up the bribery scandal. It's pure speculation based on one poor review of Supreme Commander.
- DBiz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+76I haven't purchased a Gamepro in years. The magazine is god awful and their review system (Last I looked) with the stupid faces seemed elementary and insulting to anyone over the age of 7.
Still, people should look at the meta score before judging a game, and this is one example why. - saber134, on 10/12/2007, -1/+55I agree. GamePro Australia and Gamepro magazine are definitely NOT the same company. I just went to gamepro's site and found that they gave supreme commander a 4.5 out of 5. here's the link http://www.gamepro.com/computer/pc/27997/info.shtml . These guys made the headline ambiguous just to get more diggs.
- airwalkery2k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+50I've not purchased a GamePro in years. The last time I picked one up, it felt like I had just paid for a 120 page booklet of gaming ads. And what's funny now is that I was exactly correct.
- BonsaiKitt3n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+43If you notice it says Gamepro Australia, completely different company than the Gamepro that everyone knows, there is also a gamepro spain - that too a different company.
It's too bad that this article's headline doesn't say gamepro australia. - Taromsn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37PROTIP: To defeat the Cyberdemon, shoot at it until it dies.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/PROTIP - ajb2015, on 10/12/2007, -6/+36you honestly expected more of them? come on, it's EA, they have a history.
- c0ldevil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25The article isn't about Gamepro Magazine but Gamepro Australia. The title is misleading and inaccurate. Buried.
- mortigon, on 10/12/2007, -10/+31Yea, but who's gonna shut them down.
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY. - sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27The people at GamePro are the real ***** here, we all know EA has somewhat of a shady way of doing business so I'm not that surprised that they would attempt something like this. But GamePro how about a little journalistic integrity
- attractivetb, on 10/12/2007, -10/+28I don't believe the story...
Let's be rational. Supreme Commander and Red Alert are games aimed at teens and adults. Gamepro is read by a younger demographic.
Why would EA bother to pay them off? Wouldn't it make more sense to try to bribe Gamespot, IGN or EGM?
Is there any legit evidence of a bribe? This reads like somebody made it up. - flr666, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16This story should be buried as lame/inaccurate. I lost track of how many times I read uncomfirmed and rumour in the linked piece.
- BlitzSieg, on 10/12/2007, -18/+33Absolutely shameful of EA to do something like this. They should be shut down.
- BrainDance, on 10/12/2007, -10/+25Talk about sad.
Seems like this has to be illegal in some way, some bizarre form of libel or maybe fraud (at least fraud against the subscribers who are led to believe the review was, well, real)
Should it turn out to be true I'll be thinking twice before ever buying their magazine again. - jpfinch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"We're happy to report that the person who started the bribe rumor on the Gamespot forums has now claimed it was a lie, so we've removed mention of the rumor from this story. "
Of course that doesn't matter now, it's already perceived as true to Digg users. - Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11There's a GamePro in Australia? How did this crappy mag get international branches?
GamePro's reviews have never been all too dependable. The whole 1-5 scale system with those icons is retarded and most of their reviews lack substance. I've never trusted EA either after the whole adware fiasco with BF2142.
As long as garbage piles with more garbage then I say let be no concern. - CannedMango, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12The problem with blogs and the internet is that the time it would take to thoroughly review a story and give it the journalistic integrity it requires would cancel out the "PMFG!!! I got the story out first!!!" factor that motivates a lot of the web content out there.
- mikew101, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15where is the proof?
Do you believe everything that you read? - Goombellaofgoom, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Are you hoping EA will send you a check if you bash SC too?
- funknjunk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Update: The person who started the bribe rumor on an internet forum has now claimed it was a lie, so we've removed the rumor from this story.
Buried. - andysrc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Did the writer of this give any evidence there was a bribe? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it came down to "Lots of people like the game, this one reviewer didn't. Must be a bribe!!!"
I read the GamePro Australia review, and it seemed to come down to performance issues. The game would have been great, but it performed like ass. Is that so hard to believe? If you're going to accuse someone of accepting money to give another company's game a bad review, at least back it up with something more than a crackpot theory. - Axas, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11And Gamepro used to be my favorite magazine :( how sad they would do that At least it was the aUstralia division and not the US one.
- noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I have a hard time taking this article seriously. Sure, the review may not have been accurate, but where exactly are these rumors of bribery coming from? Anyone can start a rumor about anything, and unless some real sources start popping up, this is pure speculation.
- W00DR0W, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Not much of a story, just rumors upon rumors upon rumors. That's internet journalism for you.
- BonsaiKitt3n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6From gwn's own forums, and if you notice the digger of the story dugg this twice with different titles, fishing for diggs? This digg is completely inaccurate. Buried.
GamePro/EA rumor hoax
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I can't believe you guys posted that story with no proof what so ever.
The whole thing is a hoax, an out right lie.
See PumpkinKing post page 2
http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?p=39797#39797
See beyondItall post number 2 the name under which the rumor was originally started
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/supremecommander/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-34018242&pid=928861&msg_id=m-1-371642364#2 - benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4FTA: "Update: We're happy to report that the person who started the bribe rumor on the Gamespot forums has admitted it was a lie"
Marked as inaccurate. - bil4l, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4EA will never go under with massive amount of ***** buying Madden year after year even though it was always inferior to what 2k was putting out. Madden is terrible.
- hawkspur, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I beta tested SupCom for a while and found it to be immersive, fun, and entertaining. It had everything I wished an RTS would have had back in the prime of C&C. Won't stop me from buying C&C3 though, both are excellent additions to the RTS genre.
As far as review bribery is concerned, I'm sure it goes on ALOT more that we realize, but no one fesses up. Gamepro just got caught. - contradictator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I used to buy em' monthly back in the days of the SNES... It used to be kinda funny, but yeah, it's gotten juvenille, and honestly, once I got the internet, Gamepro just seemed... obsolete.
- AReallyGoodName, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Most magazines have tons of advertising of games that are newly released. Given this, the editors of all those magazines will have a vested interest in not pissing off the publishers. The reviews are going to be biased whether conciously done or not.
So basically every gaming mag and review site out there is corrupt.
Imho everyone should obtain a 'copy' of supreme commander and judge the game for themselves. I don't see the point in reading corrupt reviews myself. - xelloss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Supreme Commander is at least a 8, has its flaws but its an awesome game and Dual Monitor support rocks!
- archer75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Having played the game I can say that the performance of it is bad. I do have a high end system and the frame rates were pretty bad. And this is right when it loads up and you only have a few units on the screen.
Though I do love the dual monitor support
C2D e6600
Radeon x1900xtx 512mb
2x1gb PC6400 Corsair
DFI Infinity 975x
Raptor 150gb - BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4That's your opinion. In my opinion, Supreme Commander is one of the best RTS games ever.
- po43292, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Were you in Taco Bell in NYC?
- Juntistik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Update: We're happy to report that the person who started the bribe rumor on the Gamespot forums has admitted it was a lie, so we've removed mention of the rumor from this story. Their rumor post has also now been removed at Gamespot, and mention of it on the Gas Powered Games forum has also gone.
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Buried. - b04155, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Slightly off topic, but magazines like PSM who claim to be impartial can't possibly be. Yes they give low scores every now and again, but honestly, a game magazine that only covers one console NEEDS that console to succeed. If the console fails there's no reason to buy the magazine so there is a sustaining need to add hype / pump up scores for certain titles.
- Nowheredan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You and I apparently played different games.
- AReallyGoodName, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2jdn is right for now.
Currently the game feels kludgey.
I have dual core athlon 4400+, 2gb ram, 2 7800GTs in Sli, but i run at 2560x1600. It seems the game can't handle that (admitedly high) resolution despite the system being resonably powerful. The main issue is the framerate varies wildly, from the max vsync will let it run at down to about 5fps in a second and then back again. Turning off vsync makes the problem even worse.
It seems the game has some intensive processing it does now and then that holds the entire game up. It makes it painful.
The gameplay itself is poor if you only play ai opponents. On the top difficulty levels the ai sends a combat unit at every single one of your early mines, some are bound to and do get through. In a game where mines are usually spread out it makes defence a pain in the arse as opposed to fun, the ai can do 1000 things at once, you can't. On lower difficulties the ai is almost toally passive, which is just pointless.
In multiplayer the gameplay is much better. Human opponents won't destroy your new expansions as soon as you place them unless they know they are there. But multiplayer has the disadvantage in that you really can't play the gigantic maps with millions of units that the game was designed for due to lag issues (and i'm on fast cable).
Really the game has one niche and that is as a multiplayer LAN game where everyone has a powerful PC. In that situation it is perfect, but that situation is rare.
I guess it's like the original, too far ahead of its time to be played as much as it deserves to be. - sgtgoomba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nobody was ***** caught. Read the article. I think I'm pretty much done with getting fed ***** by digg.com. Digg me down and goodbye.
- Solideath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2best way to review, buy it or play demo
- robz0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2On the contrary to the Original commenter and to the guy 2 above me, this game is amazing, yes you can play 8 player maps, with 750 unit caps, but it really does bog down, the weakest computer out of my circle of friends an AMD 3800+ that player eventually becomes the "lagger" the rest of us rocking C2D's 6600's it doesn't effect much its stressful on the processor not the video. Beyond the specs, the game is amazing, defense actually matters, 3 SAM's + a shield generator can completely devastate 10bombers before they get more then 1 shot off, it takes 40~ minutes to create nukes and 10 minutes to create the counter for them, everything has a beautiful counter, and you must balance everything or get taken advantage of. I had 30 Barracks streaming out Tech 3 ground bots in one game and couldn't even touch my buddies defense with artillery shelling the heck out of my land units as they attempted to zerg his base.
The game is nicely balanced, with enough flavor for each race to change your strategy slightly, but not like a Warcraft or a Starcraft where map/faction combos become to strong, or a specific race has a dominance over a different race, I have played both of those games at a high level and they weren't fun in some situations. Pulling a high caliber opponent on a certain map with a certain race was almost decided before it started. - Vokas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The UI is the best part of the game.
- DrDRO, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is BS. The story is about Gamepro in Australia but is Digg written like its about Gamepro in the USA. This story needs to be buried as innaccurate by all Digg users to keep the integrity of Digg site above board.
- Nowheredan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Something's wrong with your machine, then, 'cause it runs well on mine, and I've got an AMD dual core. I'd suggest updating all your drivers, especially your video and sound card drivers.
- Nowheredan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'd just like to say that in the three years I've worked as an editor for PC Gamer, I've never even been OFFERED a bribe. It's kind of insulting, really.
- flr666, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The linked article doesn't offer a shred of evidence and even says it is only a rumour. Reading it is a total waste of time.
- Alex74447, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://www.gamepro.com.au/index.php/id;1088855173;fp;16;fpid;0
Review of Supreme Commander from AU - dudeman88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2GamePro always gives low scores to awesome games. Remember the low score they gave Killer7?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2is this the review in question?
http://www.gamepro.com.au/index.php/id;1088855173;fp;16;fpid;0 -
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