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- Navicerts, on 01/30/2008, -8/+525[Conjecture]
Well that was long. What it basically comes down to is this bitch got dumped by some dude who liked to play games. She called her mom and cried about it and her mother insisted something must be wrong with these men who have not started spawning yet. Then she took it on air to help solidify her position to herself.
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Honestly though i get the same thing from my parents and im 26. The ONLY thing that is spoken of if i talk to them is why i have not started breeding yet. Can't really blame them they have many years of evolution telling them that i MUST start breeding now!
My attitude, who gives a *****. I'm happy with the petty, temporary relationships, and freedom that comes with being single.
***** em' - staxofmax, on 01/30/2008, -2/+349I'm 26, married, and have a house and two kids. And I enjoy videogames. ***** you Kay Hymowitz.
- Hermiod, on 01/30/2008, -8/+263The original article:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opi ...
Men work harder than ever and are entitled to have a bit of fun when they're not working. Yes, Kay S. Hymowitz, we put off marriage to women like you because the earlier we get married the earlier someone like you will encourage our wives to divorce us and take everything we have. Most of us don't want children just to be cut off from them by a Judge, either.
The original article claims that men are somehow terrified of feminism and are rebelling against it. Well, no to the first part but most definitely yes to the second. It's not exactly the feminist ideal for a woman to find a man to give her kids and money, now is it ? We, as members of a free society, are not required to breed. I will fight for a woman's right to choose but I will also fight for a man's.
Just because Kay S. Hymowitz can't find a rich husband with his own home who is still in his twenties, it doesn't mean men as a whole need to change. It seems to me that she couldn't find a man who would let her live in the house he has already paid for, get control of his paycheque, give her babies and hire a nanny so she wouldn't have to do any of the work.
And let's face it, you finish education, you get a job to pay your mortgage and then it's time to have a family ? Where in all of that do you get to have a life of your own ? After the children are grown up ? When you're in your fifties or sixties ?
Worst of all, the original article refers to a man's "obligations" as a husband ? Nowhere does it mention how women shirk their "obligations" as wives. - RustyJ, on 01/30/2008, -0/+186Real conversation I overheard:
"I'll stop playing video games if you have sex with me every single day"
"in that case... you should go buy an XBOX 360" - Otto, on 01/30/2008, -2/+161Good for you. Don't fall into the early commitment trap. Commit when you are ready, not when everybody tells you that you should be ready. And if you're never ready, then don't commit.
It's your life, not anybody else's. - OhFrak, on 01/30/2008, -8/+158What a disgusting bunch of sexist garbage.
Checks for her picture on the Net:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Homepage/hymowit ...
Yep, that explains everything... - caddyalan, on 01/30/2008, -0/+151Why stop at video games? Why not give up the 'net, TV, and any books which are not Serious Literature?
- xGORDOx, on 01/30/2008, -3/+116My wife and I gross over 150,000 a year, own a home, yadda yadda yadda, and we both dig the games.
Own a Wii, a PS3 and a 360 and play them almost everyday.
The chick who wrote this is a loser.
She is Fail. - bmoretz82, on 01/30/2008, -1/+103Amen brother.
- DiscoLando, on 01/30/2008, -6/+107I say this slightly tongue-in-cheek, but many Americans are living under the faulty assumption that a 'productive' member of society is one who works 60+ hours per week.
Myself? I just turned 30, work 40-50 hours per week, and leave plenty of time for being with my wife and son, attending church, playing music, and yes, even playing games. (I've got a 70 Paladin and a 70 Priest. :D ) - MysticSavage, on 01/30/2008, -5/+99Kay Hymowitz should shut the ***** up and bake me a pie.
- dcsears, on 01/30/2008, -0/+92"And let's face it, you finish education, you get a job to pay your mortgage and then it's time to have a family ? Where in all of that do you get to have a life of your own ? After the children are grown up ? When you're in your fifties or sixties ?"
Bam.
That's where you nailed it on the head. I've just graduated college, and now I'm expected to immediately get married, etc? Thanks, but no thanks. I want to travel. I want to see things for a bit. And, yes, I might slam a few beers and play some Halo whilst thinking about boobies. - Asvetic, on 01/30/2008, -9/+97The real question is; do we really need to be procreating? There is already too many human being on this planet and adding to the swell isn't really a smart thing... not to mention what type of future would our offspring have? I find it hard now and I'm borderline 30, what chance do any of my kids have in 30 years?! Give me a reason worthwhile and maybe I'll spit out a kid or too... in the mean time I'll be taking care of myself.
- BigPapi, on 01/30/2008, -0/+85I'm 27, married, have a good job, a house, a dog, and I get about 3 hours of highly coveted free time a week to play video games. Why the hell would I want a kid right now? I barely have enough time to take a decent dump in morning.
The only time I ever consider having a kid is when I have to mow the lawn or rake the leaves, but then I remember that I can always just pay the kid next door to do it for me. - Dalrimple, on 01/30/2008, -1/+83Kay S. Hymowitz is going to decide what men get to do and don't get to do. She doesn't get the notion that men don't have to fall into the present-day trap called marriage and they don't have to support a nagging bitch.
All Kay has to do is understand the radical notion that men are people too. - kazoomaloo, on 01/30/2008, -2/+80I tried that one with my wife but she just said "No too bad go do the dishes." I cry more often than I'd like.
- alk509, on 01/30/2008, -1/+78Not only that, but she completely ignores the fact that these "girls of widely varied hues and sizes" are overwhelmingly willing participants in these kinds of social interactions. It's not like they're being raped, or opening their legs in the hopes that they'll get a husband out of it...
Society has changed, bitch. Now hurry up and die so we can casually ***** your daughters without marrying them. - radink360, on 01/30/2008, -0/+76Exactly. Women like her just want to marry and then control constantly. If i married a douche like that, i'd be divorced right quick.
- clinko, on 01/30/2008, -2/+72I'll magically make this piece sexist. See if you can spot the difference:
Editorial: Beware the Child-Woman?
news.filefront.com — Steve Hymowitz recently stated on NPR that 20-30 year-old women should stop playing games and become productive members of society. Why can't we do both, and what makes games the problem? - Mardala, on 01/30/2008, -1/+67and I bet she goes home and watches 2 hours of television. .. seriously video games are recreation. Television is recreation. My ex used to bitch at me for playing Unreal a few hours a week, when she watched 2+ hours of sitcoms a night. I don't see the difference.
Now if my only life was what I created in Second Life ... well thats another story. - DreKor, on 01/30/2008, -0/+60"And then it's off to bars and parties, where you meet, and often bed, girls of widely varied hues and sizes. Wife? Kids? House? Are you kidding?"
Wow. Not only is she racist, but she's dumping on any woman who didn't win this year's Miss Texas. Maybe guys are looking for something more than white, blonde, 5'6", 105 lbs. - Serapthi, on 01/30/2008, -0/+59Quoted form her article:
" With women, you could argue that adulthood is in fact emergent. Single women in their 20s and early 30s are joining an international New Girl Order, hyper-achieving in both school and an increasingly female-friendly workplace, while packing leisure hours with shopping, traveling and dining with friends. Single young males, or SYMs, by contrast, often seem to hang out in a playground of drinking, hooking up, playing Halo 3 and, in many cases, underachieving. With them, adulthood looks as though it's receding. "
So, according to her, women who spend their leisure time shopping, traveling and eating out are the epitome of adulthood? Every 16 year old girl I know loves doing that, hell, if I remember correctly even when my sister was 12 she loved to shop, travel and eat out. And I know some 30+ year old women that love doing the same exact thing. Yes, I agree, men these days might not seem as "mature" as the men of the 60s but guess what? Women aren't any different either.
I graduated with honors from high school, have a Bachelors, twice on the Dean's list and am now working full time. But since I play games instead of shopping or traveling that makes me a underachiever huh? - cawpin, on 01/30/2008, -1/+56105 at 5'6" is one skinny bitch. Eat a ***** cheeseburger.
- BoneheadFarker, on 01/30/2008, -1/+54You know what...the day I meet a woman that's not playing some sort of game, or is leading me on just to get free drinks, or will actually be nice to me when I finally work up the courage to talk to them...then I'll consider getting married and having kids. I'm 29, and I don't see it happening any time soon. Are there any women out there who actually want a real relationship?
- inactive, on 01/30/2008, -2/+55what's the point.
to have some bitch take it all? - inactive, on 01/30/2008, -0/+52Urgh, I hate nonsensical tripe like that.
- Listor, on 01/30/2008, -0/+52My response to these arguments.
Kids are expensive and so are divorce's. - realityiswhere, on 01/30/2008, -0/+52She has no excuse either, they have them in cans now.
- MysticSavage, on 01/30/2008, -0/+51Holy *****, Steve Guttenberg had a sex change.
- Van3ck, on 01/30/2008, -1/+51I am 26 and play video games with my girlfriend. We both also work full time jobs, and are in a band together.
Video games provide nothing but a fun way to kill time, just like any other past time.
How are they preventing us from being "productive"? Just because we are not spending that time making babies instead? - Borgcube, on 01/30/2008, -0/+49 "With women, you could argue that adulthood is in fact emergent. Single women in their 20s and early 30s are joining an international New Girl Order, hyper-achieving in both school and an increasingly female-friendly workplace, while packing leisure hours with shopping, traveling and dining with friends. Single young males, or SYMs, by contrast, often seem to hang out in a playground of drinking, hooking up, playing Halo 3 and, in many cases, underachieving. With them, adulthood looks as though it's receding."
Wait, what? Come again now? How is "packing leisure hours shopping, traveling and dining with friends" different from "drinking, hookinh up, playing Halo 3"? It's basically just spending free time the way you like it. Also, I would like to point out that she doesn't even show any numbers about underachieving or overachieving. Sure, there are numbers for marriage, but that argument is flawed since that also means there are less women married and the problem then doesn't simply lie on the "child-men". The reason why there are less young married people today is because a lot of them saw what happens when you rush into marriage with their parents who got divorced soon. Long is lost the age of contracted marriages. - inactive, on 01/30/2008, -4/+51Bollocks.
Some people out there simply don't want kids; and maybe don't want marriage due to experiences forthcoming.
I was 26 years old; engaged; had everything that you could think of to make the traditional life (except that I support zero population growth - no kids here) and I was dumped by the person I was with for 4 years including the engagement.
Now I'm 30, laid off from the IT industry working a crap hourly job and dating a 21 year old. And I love video games because I'm wise enough to not spend all of my money on the bar scene trying to pick up random ass.
What is wrong with me again you snarky bitch? - glasnostic, on 01/30/2008, -1/+48i listened to the show and wanted to slap the guest. she puts all the blame on men for "not fulfilling their duties" and gives woman a complete pass. well i know just as many single women approaching 30 as i know single men and most of those women are the "dumping" kind.
they are fickle, they jump from man to man, and they have no desire to have kids and settle down.
so that woman can kiss my ass. i like to play halo.. i also have had the same job for 9 years, i am 29.6 years old, on the 5th year of a serious "marriage like" relationship and currently trying to talk my girlfriend into having kids once we get married.
i also brew beer, throw huge house parties, and basically act like a kid..
she knows nothing - inactive, on 01/30/2008, -0/+45yes stupid men, keep generating money for women to spend.
- raynar, on 01/30/2008, -3/+47Video games are no different than people who dress up in "their" teams favorite outfit and sit in front of the tv for 4 hours. Actually, its not as gay...i mean, play some games, or watch some dudes play a sweaty game of catch.
- Orion682, on 01/30/2008, -1/+45"My dad never went to college. So it was real important that I go."
"That sounds familiar."
"So I graduate, I call him up long distance, I say, 'Dad, now what?' He says, 'Get a job.'"
"Same here."
"Now I'm twenty five. Make my yearly call again. I say, 'Dad, now what?' He says, 'I don't know. Get married.'"
"I don't wanna get married. For god's sake I'm a 30 year old boy."
"We're a generation of men raised by women, and I'm beginning to wonder, if another women is really what we need." - raynar, on 01/30/2008, -2/+45When my mother was pregnant with me they did an ultrasound and found she was having twins. When they did another ultrasound a few weeks later they discovered that I had reabsorbed the other fetus. Do I regret this? No. I believe his tissue has made me stronger. I now have the strength of a grown man and a little baby.
- inactive, on 01/30/2008, -0/+43kill it with fire, dear lord
- inactive, on 01/30/2008, -1/+44But yet, this bitch probably wastes time and money reading the latest gossip rag about Britney's latest breakdown or what type of shoes Angelina Jolie is wearing.
- NCg8r, on 01/30/2008, -0/+43So women travel and dine with friends. Men just lay around and drink. But they're TOTALLY different things, see? Gotcha...
- mustbepatient, on 01/30/2008, -0/+42Pretty much the same here - it makes no sense to think of video games being inferior entertainment to, say, TV (I'd rather my kids play interactive games than watch TV mindlessly).
I used to think that we'd basically have to wait for the oldest generation to die off before the video-game stigma finally went away altogether, but the Wii is advancing the progress fairly well, so we shall see. - Otto, on 01/30/2008, -0/+41The actual original article can be found here:
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_single_young ...
The Dallas paper site has a cut down version. She goes into more detail in the longer version, but it's basically more of the same thing: Bitching from a feminist who doesn't understand that her definition of "grown up" is actually outdated and old.
Look, the whole feminist movement was about women deciding that they wanted to be more than just wives and tied down to one man. Well, men didn't have a "movement" as such but we decided pretty much the same thing: that we'd rather be more than financial drones working to provide for just one woman and the 2.4 kids. Instead of organizing, we just ***** did it. Don't like it? Tough. Maybe some guys didn't like the feminist movement either.
It's not a backlash or a rebellion. It's complete and total agreement with feminist principles, except applied to men. We'll do whatever the hell we want and not let any woman tell us that we can't. Got it? Good. - Portwineboy, on 01/30/2008, -1/+41Christ, what about my 40 year old game playing self? I work, pay my bills, volunteer, donate to charity...what obligations am I missing? Husbandhood? Did that, it didn't work out. Does that mean I can retire now that I've met Ms. Hymowitz's obligations?
- sv650touring, on 01/30/2008, -1/+41Dugg for possibly the greatest closing sentence in any digg comment I've ever read.
- NSMike, on 01/30/2008, -1/+39The child-man my ass. What about the child-woman? The women who can't get past trashy clothes meant for 17-year-olds and layers upon layers of makeup that don't do a damn thing for me, while prattling on about everything that doesn't matter in life? What the hell happened to the intelligent woman that I can actually have a conversation with and keep us both interested? What about the woman that doesn't think there's something wrong with all men? You want to know why we don't want you, lady? It's because our relationship started with, "You know, if only you did this, instead of that..."
- inactive, on 01/30/2008, -1/+39Yes, be men again, for women to use.
- SirBrittanicus, on 01/30/2008, -5/+42I'll bet she nags a lot and has cobwebs and icicles in her vagoo.
- diggzoid, on 01/30/2008, -0/+37I'm 44 and love Wii bowling, rock band etc. In fact I find it a great way to relate to my teenage son and his friends, they actually want me to play! (I can't stand shooting games though)
- MrTito, on 01/30/2008, -0/+35Well, this could also explain it (FTA):
"These “Child-men” came to light because she had spoken with a number of young women and these ladies had decried the lack of good candidates for marriage on the traditional timescale."
So because women can't find what they want, then it's men's fault. ***** that. Take some personal accountability - either evolve your standards or become a lesbian. Either way, don't bring your Princess Fantasyland storybook expectations into my otherwise happy and content lifestyle. I can compromise on a lot of things, but her and women like her will never be happy because they cannot compromise. -
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