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- QuackQuack, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46Those kids need to smacked upside the head with an Atari 2600.
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36*Cue the porn music.*
Mario: "It's-a me, Mario! Did somebody call for a plumber?"
Princess: "Yeah. I think I need to have my pipe cleaned."
Mario: "Well ... if it's loos I could always screw it as hard as I can."
Princess: "Good. I like it tight."
Mario: "Ah...careful...you might get all wet."
Princess: "Are you hungry?"
Mario: "I think I could eat a Peach for hours...."
Princess: "Then we can have the Super Mushroom ... I heard it makes you grow all big...."
Mario: "Then I can climb up on the white one, crouch down, and get all up behind everything."
Princess: "...uh...what?"
Mario: "In level three...get down in the dark and then ... when I get the whistle...you can blow it for me." - lansuggs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38Its kind of a shame actually. These kids will never have the appreciation for video games as us older gamers. The full experience of gaming came from a progressive improvement of games. I had as much fun playing the original Zelda as the subsequent new ones. Same with Mario and such. Not to mention that playing FPS now without ever playing Doom or Goldeneye is lost.
- laplacian, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38this article is almost as old as these games.
- Mitaphane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30That reminds me of a conversation that was had during a Wii campout last month. It was a surprisingly diverse age group, 3 to 4 people over 30, one around 50, me and my friends at around 26, a teenager, and a 10 year old. A couple of my buddies were hanging out talking about what people will do with the Wiimote.
My buddy asks,"You think they'll do a power glove like device for the Wii?"
The teenager asks, "What's a power glove?"
I reply, "Before your time kid..."
I think I became official old that day. - masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31"Bobby: It's probably because the Nazis felt bad having a cement fighting place, so they put little trampolines under-
Parker: Wait. What do Nazi's have to do with it?
Bobby: Because Zangief is a Nazi.
EGM: He's Russian. Not German.
Garret: He's a communist.
Bobby: Then why is Zangief's place a Nazi place?
EGM: It's not.
Bobby: Yes it is-it had a Nazi sign on the cement. "
Assuming they're referring to the large Communist symbol in this picture:
http://www.newchico076.supereva.it/IMMAGINI/PREFERITI/STREET%20FIGHTER%202/STAGE/zangief.gif
It's sad how little world history they teach kids nowadays.. >_> - Jist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27Garret: That's not Mike Tyson. Are you kidding me? Mike Tyson does not have a handlebar moustache, and he's not white.
EGM: [Laughing] So those are the two things that make you think that's not Mike Tyson?
Garret: Yeah, plus this guy's wearing pants.
LOL.... Of course. Thats what's so strange about Mike Tyson. The dude doesn't wear pants! - Tazmaster, on 10/18/2007, -0/+25You mean you have to use your hands?! That's a baby's game...
- UrlorJkron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Why does a princess need to be rescued by a plumber?
- RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26The kids aren't entirely wrong. Back then, most of those games were awesome, but by today's standards they suck.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who has read some conceited Internet post like "I'd rather play Pong that [insert new game]..." ...reminds of my grandfather: "Today's movies are ***** because they don't have John Wayne!" - ShaneApex, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Garret: Maybe Mr. T is Nintendo's marketing director. Mike Tyson was all like, "I'm gonna eat your dogs, I'm gonna eat your kids."
Rachel: I'm not really one who likes eating people.
Bobby: I'm gonna eat your momma.
This article is awesome. Kids are idiots! - coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17EGM: What are you going to say when your kids say Wind Waker looks boring?
Parker: Get out of my house. You're out of my will.
Also, from what I saw they DID only play some pretty tiny and boring games. Sure I love dragging the old Atari out every once and a while, but it gets boring quickly.
NES is a little better, there are a few games that I can play for a few hours, I think when SNES hit that's where my gaming starts. I can spend hours and hours on an SNES RPG even today.
I doubt future generations will think that the games that we play are "boring", but rather just lacking technologically - unless something incredibly crazy happens in the gaming industry chances are it'll be the same with better graphics and a few added bells and whistles (new controller schemes, etc). - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20I agree with lansuggs.
My love of gaming stems from seeing the improvements as they happened during my lifetime. The kids today that are raised only on new systems will never understand what it took to achieve this caliber of gaming.
My kids will start life knowning nothing more than a Colecovision and NES for their first consoles. - devin_mm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15because it's nintendo
- thep1mp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16^^ white kids?
- xrisnothing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15because even a princess needs to go slumming sometimes
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Old RPGs are never outdated (with the exception of OOOLLLDD RPGs, such as the original "Adventure"). Any hardcore RPG fan can tell you that it's the story that's most important. As long as the gameplay doesn't suck, an RPG with a great story is generally a good RPG.
Also, back in the old days when development costs were low, they tried things. Nowadays, nearly ALL RPGs consist of some sort of tale of angst, and they almost all lean towards MMORPG game mechanics. Old school RPGs, however, had many different types of mechanics. You had Lufia which was a puzzle-oriented RPG with visible monsters and turn-based battles. Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy with random, turn-based battles. Chrono Trigger, which had visible monsters and a active turn-based battle system. And then you had wildly different RPGs such as the Ys series which is entirely action-battle based.
But now most RPGs consist of some sort of hybrid of an MMORPG battle system and a turn-based battle system which usually ends up turning out as a menu-driven-active-turn-based-real-time-hack'n'slash-type battle system which usually sucks.
But thankfully the "modernness" of today's RPGs is only applied to console RPGs and not handhelds, and the Nintendo DS is becoming like today's Super Nintendo, and the RPGs are all like the RPGs of old. Development costs are low, space is more limited than that of a CD, so it's the gameplay and creativity that matter -- not how many GBs of FMVs you can fit on a DVD. - dirtyharry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13"Bobby: It's probably because the Nazis felt bad having a cement fighting place, so they put little trampolines under" -In reference to Zangief's level on SFII
I don't even know where to go with this one... - bobotheking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"EGM: If this game had blood and gore like Mortal Kombat, would you like it more?
Parker: Then this would be the best game ever created. Ever. Because violence is so cool-in videogames.
Garret: It does have a little bit of blood.
EGM: So if you could add anything you wanted to this game, what would you want?"
Objection! Counsel is leading the witness! - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Disrespectful little pricks! (taste the humor people)
I may not agree because
1.) I am an Eighties Baby who loved gaming and grew up on Atari and Colecovision
2.) My Computer Engineering program provides me with tons of empathy for the developers of these games during their heyday. - ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14"Its kind of a shame actually. These kids will never have the appreciation for video games as us older gamers."
Bull. These 10-13 year olds love Gunstar Heroes and the original Zelda. How is that not an appreciation of fine gaming? - s0lace, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11*talking about Street Fighter 2*
EGM: Would you guys buy a console just to play this game?
Everyone: No
EGM: People used to.
Garret: [Laughs]
: / .....I bought genesis mainly because of Street Fighter 2
me = pwnd by little kids - TheG2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"Anthony: If Mike Tyson was in this game, his special move would be to bite people's ears. Then he'd be all gloating about it, but then the sound's all low because you can't hear him because your ears are gone. [Points at the next opponent, Von Kaiser] That's Mike Tyson, and he's trying to bite off your ear."
Give this kid a medal and a scholarship for game design! - Wisgary, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8On Galaga:
EGM: What does this game need to make it as good as Space Invaders?
Parker: Worse graphics.
Ha, these kids and their damned smart-mouths. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Does mighty mac remind anyone of Dennis Kucinich?
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10EGM: What do you think of [the first opponent] Glass Joe?
Bobby: Uh...he's white.
(Heeeeelarious. Don't forget that he's also French.)
Man, I didn't know kids were that funny. - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I have two 10-year-old cousins who are over-exposed to pop culture thanks to TV. Believe me, they talk like that.
- energei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7That's part of the problem... when they don't know something, it's all "kids this days are stupid"... but when they sound articulate it's "obviously a fake"?
- dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9"Anthony: You're already at a boss? It looks like a giant asparagus or something.
Parker: This is insane. This is why you don't do drugs. You make screwed up videogames."
This is so fake... Everyone knows kids have no idea what asparagus is...
[/sarcasm] - lansuggs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@ZenMojo
From the interviews those comments seemed really forced. It seemed that they were attempting to act cool by saying those games were old school. They were still prob thinkin that the games were *****, which was kinda hinted by the interviewer getting deeper. They changed their minds a lot - gregduh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8i dunno what's worse: that they don't respect the old school games, or that they are named garret, dillon, and parker
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6BttF reference FTW
- Plaguefox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I couldn't peg it but this article seemed much more fabricated than the first one. I can't really fathom kids of that age referring to fake things as "faux" things.
Seriously, I don't remember having that kind of vocabulary when I was ~10. It's definitely been cleaned up. Daresay embellished upon. - meepus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Kids are sarcastic ***** at 11. Remember that.
- TylerDurden76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No game will ever.... EVER be as hard as Battletoads.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4tomorrow I shall go find my Atari
- GrahamStw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's interesting that the kids frequently bitched that the game was too hard or they didn't understand it.
Are modern games too dumbed down?
Certainly something I like about older games is that they are frustrating and you have to keep at them to beat them. Many modern games are so peppered with save points, health packs or unlimited lives that there is no real challenge any more. - Sethbacca, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5River City Ransom needs to be remade on new systems.
Probably one of the best games ever in my mind :) - po43292, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'd still take Street Fighter II to a deserted island.
- vladimonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ha, funny, I clicked on the comment link for no other reason than to say that I wanted to smack the piss out of these annoying little brats. And what did the first comment say?
Of course, what do you expect of kids named Garret and Parker. Shudder. - frozen1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@lansuggs
"Its kind of a shame actually. These kids will never have the appreciation for video games as us older gamers. The full experience of gaming came from a progressive improvement of games. I had as much fun playing the original Zelda as the subsequent new ones. Same with Mario and such. Not to mention that playing FPS now without ever playing Doom or Goldeneye is lost."
But the truth is once we played newer games with better graphics we never went back at the time until much later, when we got tired of gameplay that wasn't as tight as older games. I remember being totally blown away by the super NES graphics compared to the NES, and a little disappointed with the washed out colors of the genesis compared to the SNES games.
The truth is most of these kids will never grow up to be game designers, the real hardcore gamers will always be with us because they instinctively know why games are fun to begin with, all games at their core are abstractions, if you peeled away the graphics you'd have to have interesting "widgets" to play with, thats ultimately where all the fun comes from concerning action games and even rpg's is the interactivity... I've become less and less interested in certain genre's of games because the give the control over to the computer to babysit characters I should be in control of, or at least give me the damn option for absolute control, and the lazy gamers of today ruining RPG systems like Final fantasy 12. FF12 reminded me of zelda windwaker where you were sitting their sailing on the ocean endlessly and the only action you could perform was navigation or cumbersomely fighting enemies to do awkward and lethargic controls of the weapons available at sea.
The truth is a lot of games are getting worse and being dumbed down, but some genre's simply have to keep their hardcore or "pure" abstraction from their gaming roots or gaming would simply die completely.
I'm at a loss in some respects as why MMO's are so damn popular, when they are nowhere near as fun as action games and my conclusion is that: Many people have no clue about the different levels of fun, because they don't have the gaming history of having played enormous library of games of which to compare so the experience is entirely new and 'fresh', but for us older gamers we see gaming going downhill... gaming is about interactivity and control... and many genre's are losing that, instead of expanding the interactivity and things you can do in the game, they are oversimplifying it, and I really think this has to do with graphics sucking up too much of the development budget and pure gameplay taking a backseat... Mr. Jaffe of God of War fame was right to want to develop smaller games with tight focused gameplay, that is the foundation of all higher level games that exist today. Is the "abstract widgets" that are fun and addictive to play with, which we paint over with character models and other forms of avatars... like vehicles, etc. - tdowling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think that the kids were talking like they were because they were relatively intelligent. Maybe you just weren't like them when you were younger?
- Sakumi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That was quite funny..
Makes me feel old tho.. - Recuso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Dillon: I'm just pressing random buttons here....
Garret: That's probably how you beat the game. "
Hahahaha. Button mashing is NOT how you're supposed to play fighting games :(
Also, OH MY GOD:
"EGM: What is this game missing?
Parker: Like, action. But it's for the Atari so it's boring. "
Blasphemers! - TimDub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3FF19? At the current rate, they'll be up around FF42 for the PS9.
And isn't the PS9 supposed to plug directly into your brain? I remember seeing that on a commercial somewhere. - argonsloth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ZenMojo:
Courtesy of all the good folk at OCRemix.com: http://djpretzel.web.aplus.net/songs/Super_Mario_Bros_3_SwinginPornoMix_OC_ReMix.mp3 - onineko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2From the original article that spawned this digg article:
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=1&cId=3109674
Tetris - Arcade • 1988
Spawned in Russia and the target of hundreds of imitators, Tetris is the original superaddictive puzzle game.
Tim: Which button do I press to make the blocks explode?
EGM: Sorry, they don't explode.
Becky: This is boring. Maybe if it had characters and stuff and different levels, it would be OK. If things blew up or something or—
Sheldon: If there were bombs.
Becky: Yeah, or special bricks. Like, if a yellow brick touched a red brick it would blow up and you'd have to start over.
John: Why haven't I won yet? I've paired up so many of the same color.
EGM: Don't worry about colors.
John: I just lined up six of the same color. Why didn't they blow up?
EGM: Nothing blows up. - meepus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I was looking for a comment regarding the use of the word faux. I'd like to say that my initial impression was that the kids' responses were fabricated. However, I'd also like to point out that any time you see an interview article, it is almost never a straight transcript of a conversation. This thing was edited together from several rambling statements made over time by these kids, and somewhere in the process it is possible that an editor changed a word to 'faux'... which could have more appropriately been 'false,' since that's the literal translation of the French word. However, there are a few responses which couldn't have come from anyone but children.
This interview hash seems to be the work of a crank editor making as many cheap jokes as possible (by throwing together quotes like punchlines) and it only stands on the humor of the slightly ignorant (yet also insightful) goofiness of the children. I suppose that was the point, but I kinda wish the peg of the article was to get real solid opinions out of kids, rather than crack as many jokes as possible.
Also, the game choices are clearly based on those favored by guys in their 30's. Is that really EGM's audience? I'm 21 and I'd like to know what kids thought about Super Mario Bros, Megaman 2, RC Pro Am, and Dragon Warrior. The clip that interested me most was the Zelda bit, and it was kinda half-assed. No digg. - phrystile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Say what you want about these kids, but mad props goes out to the Parker kid when talking about 720:
Parker: Yeah, from the '80s, like from that movie Gleaming the Cube.
I grew up in the 80's & 90's as a skater and I barely remember this movie, what a reference! -
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