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- tidu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+87No, then they would be saying "unzip it"
Sorry, bad joke :/ - SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23I guess the note didn't apply to itself.
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24No, that would be at MY job.
- BenSerwa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Is this irony?
- zspade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Hey look, these guys are making minimum wage. What kind of loyalty does EB Corporate expect to instill with minimum wage and dead-positions? They should have expected this and planned accordingly. As for the selling of consoles on Ebay... Again, minimum wage. Gotta make the ends meet somehow.
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Not enough to afford a PS3.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16I hate ***** who buy consoles just to sell them on eBay...let's be fair about this.
Then again I hate the idiots who will pay the 400 extra markup on them - mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11naruto, *****. When supply is so low, Chritmas is around, and demand is at an all time high, it's not hard to believe that an xbox would go for double the price. Concert tickets alone can go for 3 - 5x the price they were sold at.
- mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Again, then what's the point of preordering when there will be more than enough?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I thought this was another one of those stories where the manager/boss abuses it's employees.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@hammydude
Liar!
1.' i pre-ordered 5 ps3s and 4 wiis." i don't think so!
2. The majority of the auctions for the xbox 360 that sold for a 150% markup were bid on by fake bidders.
Other sellers who have auction ending around the same time like to bid on the same item, and jack the price up. All those $2000 xbox 360 auctions, were won by zero feedback users, who registered a day before their bid. - greatcaffeine, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11@tidu
Actually, that was a hilarious joke. dugg - gamemaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6As a gamer this story pisses me off. I've always felt that as a corporation, EB/Gamestop disrespects their customers. This confirms it to me. You know, if the company got it's bloody act together and told people what's up with pre-orders, there wouldn't be thousands of people hounding the poor managers for details. The managers are just trying to be decent and tell people what they want to know.
In other words, the managers, being on the front line, have an attitude of, "The customer knows best. If this information is that important to them, I should give them a clue what my companies plans are, so that we can keep the customers business."
The EB/Gamestop *corporate* attitude, on the other hand, seems to be a big FU to customers. Like they'll tell us when their damn good and ready, like we're little kids and the know best.
You know what? Screw EB/Gamestop. They can take their corporate attitude and stick it where the sun don't shine. I would have pre-ordered from them at one point, but no more. I'll take my business to Walmart or Toys 'R Us.
P.S. Memo to EB/Gamestop management. When you're a specialty store, and your products and services are lousy compared to generic big-box stores, then just MAYBE you're doing something wrong. EB/Gamestop could quite honestly vanish from the face of the earth tomorrow and I don't think gamers would mind. - spookyone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4blackmariah, are you telling me an asst manager makes $10.50/hr?!? How does he live!?! You would have to be crazy to take on a retail management position with all the work involved for less than $40,000/year.
- VaporBro, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4YEAH there is! *unzips it*
- Wonotch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3As much as i hate buying stuff from places like walmart, EB/GS can offically kiss my ass ever since they decided they wouldnt replace my SECOND defective DS Lite. The manager apparantly didnt think that my right shoulder button and D-Pad being dysfunctional were worthy enough reasons to get a replacement. I'm sure he was told by corperate to be real stingy about DS Lite replacememnts at that time, but man, what an *****, and what an ***** move by EB/GS corperate to not honour my right to have a defective product replaced.
Needless to say nintendo sent me an advance replacement immediately, and ever since I've lost all repsect for that "specialty" store. - ajb2015, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3...this is basically a big ***** you to Gamestop, and with good reason, some of those policies are ridiculous. No selling any video games for profit?
I hate EB and Gamestop anyway. They rape you on trade ins and bother you constantly about buying their ***** disc protection. Oh and let's not forget pre-orders. I can't remember the last time (except for console launches or some huge title) I wanted to buy a game and it was completely unavailable everywhere. Even when I bought my PSP (big mistake) I checked EB first. They were sold out. I called walmart and they had like 20-25 of them. - SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's always a mistake to buy from game stores. Some games that I've been looking for for a year now in EB and Gamestop I found just the other day in Toys R Us, because no one thinks to look there for videogames, so they still have stock of things that are rare or sold out at actual game shops.
Whenever I saw a DS during its launch, it was always at Target or Walmart. The game stores didn't have them. The irony is, game stores are the worst place to buy games. - Oogler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2True, they don't have the 'right' but you don't have to work for them either, or shop at their stores. I prefer, acknowledge the need and actually expect my company to keep their trade secrets because it protects my employment. It takes only 1 person in an employee group of 120,000 where I work to cause a major furor in the press, at retail and at the theater box office.
This doesn't mean Gamestop/EB Games is a good employer, just that employers have a right to protect their investment and competitve advantage. - Tazmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I am sick of companies thinking they own my mind, free time, and my soul.
I can see the argument from the company's side on a few issues... like work documents, inside information, trade secrets, etc... However, there are companies that take things much, much further than reason and common sense should allow.
Companies do not have the "right" to tell you, me, or anyone else how to live our lives, who to associate ourselves with, or what we can or cannot discuss on our own time. We give them those privileges when we sign pieces of paper agreeing to those kind of terms in order to be employed. It makes me sad and angry. - Tazmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If EB or GS tries to get IP addresses from websites and then tries to get personal information from an ISP, they are leaving themselves open to legal action. The websites and ISPs may be doing so as well if they release such information.
- piratearggghhh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As punishment, employees should be treated like customers: being forced to buy systems with ridiculous bundles and sell their old systems and games back for pennies on the dollar. Then when they try to return anything, give them ***** beyond belief. All this while getting a smug fanboy attitude.
- Tazmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No offense, but if your going to reply to someone's post you owe it to yourself to actually read what you are responding to.
"I can see the argument from the company's side on a few issues... like work documents, inside information, trade secrets, etc..." and "We give them those privileges when we sign pieces of paper agreeing to those kind of terms in order to be employed." pretty much cover what you are saying. - zspade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2New hires or not, that still means there are hundreds if not thousands of people working for minimum wage at EB games. I've been in to my local EB games several times, and almost never see the same employees. That means a high turnover rate, and as such, a constant flow of new employees.
As for your friend... For a manager, that's a pretty low rate. About the best thing that he'll get out of that is a reference and some experience on his resume. If he's young enough, that's still a pretty good opportunity. - charpster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this article is fake. eb/gamestop corperate does not sent out paper memos. all memos go through email and that is the incorrect format. even if somehow the person submitting that was able to get it to appear in that format, there was no hush email put out by gamestop at that time
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No lines...just pick it up and walk out. There were plenty of copies of Halo 2 when it came out but I'm glad I reserved it to just pick it up instead of waiting in line for 3 hours.
- founderofpork, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2As a former employee of EBgames/Gamestop I feel I should throw in my two cents: Yes, they absolutely do sell bootleg games and DVD's. Shouldn't the RIAA be suing them about now? And yes, employees are poorly paid and treated like ***** by pretty much every level of the company. Just coroborating the story.
- w0rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@blackmariah
He's either full of ***** and lying to you or he's a complete moron (and lying to you). At the very minimum you should be making 14-18 per hour for asst. managment and 36/40-60K per year for store managment. - ReikiMaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it is much easier to get what you want at wallmart. The local game stores only get a few copies of things, my local wallmart will always have 3 to 4x that much. Also, wallmart may not take preorders, but there are never that many people that think to actaully wait at wallmart on launch day for something.
- skaughtm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nice diatribe about coporate protocol. but you kind of reversed when you mentioned taking business to wal-mart, the coporation of all corporations.
- End_Joy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I worked for the company too and we never sold any bootleg games or movies... We turned them away when people tried to sell this crap. Come on, it is illegal...
Plus, Gamestop has never allowed its employees to sell games or systems you buy in the store on e-bay. It is in the employee handbook... - mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Just wondering, how much does a manager at that store make?
- teamparadox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well considering the RIAA doesnt have anything to do with bootleg movies or games I would say no the RIAA shouldnt be sueing them...
- doodosh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's the manager on duty's decision if they want to replace it or not. Most of the time they don't like to return anything because it comes out of their daily log of money sold. So for example so far they sold $600 that day but you go and return your ds lite for another and that was their last one that someone else could have bought thus raising their daily to $730.
- Oogler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree, the formatting looks suspect and any memo I've gotten recently is always via email. However, one of the first things I would look to in these types of things, and is often a good measure towards authenticity, is the correct use of grammer, spelling and sentence structure. i.e. corporate speak is not easy to duplicate by those who don't speak it. This 'memo' is pretty tight even if the medium isn't of the type that seems authentic.
I'd be willing to say it was reformatted and printed before dismissing it entirely.
As for your assertion about hush email well, it would seem you know of other hush emails so this doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility. Regardless, there really isn't anything all that inflamatory here anyway. It just says to be quiet or you'll be disciplined or fired. Pretty standard stuff. - Klowner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I stopped by the local ebgames for my tri-weekly "Any wii pre-order news yet?" visit, today I finally got a little more info than "we should know next week". He said that they should know soon, and that it involves some sort of "trade-in special"... Please, oh please, don't pull the Hawaii crap nation wide, or I'll be getting my Wii elsewhere.
- stevekeller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 I spoke with a manager at EB games today and he confirmed that they will start taking pre-order for the Nintendo Wii tomorrow, october 10th. There is a minimum charge of 50$ up front for the system. They will also be taking pre-orders for Wii accessories. The store opens at 10 am tomorrow, so go make your reservation!
- ManOfTomorrow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1All I have to do is buy my EB manager brother some juicy tacos and he will spill the beans on anything@ I love the big lug, he even borught me a signed picture of Mario himself Charles Martinet from last week's conference!
By the way Wonotch, sorry about the hassle and poor service given to you. If it were my brother's store, he would have helped you by calling Nintendo there on the spot. As long as you bought the DS in that perticular store, you should have been helped. - gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Do EB or Gamestop employees have to sign some sort of Non disclosure agreements. I kind of doubt that the company can censor their opinions about products they buy and use them selves, or can they? If they shop at their own store off duty I assume they are free to talk about the experience or am I missing something. Sounds like the corporation could be on shaky legal ground with this policy.
- teamparadox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Really Naruto? I sold one of mine for $1400 in the want ads...go figure.
- Tazmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The FBI should be very interested, though. At least that's what the "It is a federal crime to copy..." messages are all about at the beginning of each DVD.
- Oogler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh yes, Wal-mart... the poster child for fair employee treatment. I could I forget.
- MistressRoninS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If authentic, the memo, I wonder if the SEC would be interested in how its exposure to the public may or may not effect GME stock. Looks like the stock went up a bit since three days ago if thats the official date of the story hitting the public. That could be because of the pre order craze though.
- MrBilly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Correct. Gamestop can dictate what you say about the company as most companies can. This is disclosed in the Employee handbook, typically your exception of the job means you agree to the terms set forth in the employee handbook including the parts that say Gamestop or the company you work for can limit what you say about inside information, work related issues, or other things concerning the company. Sometimes, companies even make you sign the back of the book or a page in it acknowledging that you have read it. This does not however cover "Whistleblowing" as you have a legal protection for that purpose.
Also, it is not wise to post things online about the companies you work for- even if you do have the freedom of speech as employers could find things out later. (try a simple Google search, or, if for a higher paid position (CFO, VP, whatever level is privy to inside information)) it could come back to haunt you ro maybe even cost you your job. Its jsut not a good habit to get into... - MrBilly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He's right, It is at the option of the manager whether or not to take it back. It si a customer service to take it back as as exchange per the return policy (which gives the manager this right) but since it is a manufacturer defect, it technically should be taken up with Nintendo, MS, or Sony. They gave you the first return to save you the initial hassle (which most places do). (Which is why I love Costco)
- mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Well, I mean, a manager has to make more than it's employees right? Maybe $12 an hour?
- nogami, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yawn... So they're gonna fire some $6-8/hr peon because they post "big secret documents" on the internet. Pretty pathetic...
(just give the stuff to a friend and get them to post it anonymously using TOR or the like). - mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3where did you preorder them?
- thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0What people don't realise about these stores is that they really have nothing to do with games. They are retail, plain and simple. If you want to get into games and work with games start a COSC degree, just don't expect it to be easy!
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1So does this mean that what was posted earlier might have a hint of truth to it? When I called in I did get a "No, that's only a rumor" response...so I guess it could be true?
What's the frickin verdict, I'm dying here. -
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