146 Comments
- medfreak, on 09/02/2008, -8/+65That is easy, call it "creature intelligent design" and market it to bible thumpers.
- Arasaka, on 09/03/2008, -2/+58Let's be honest: Penis monster simulator.
- Bravesguy18, on 09/03/2008, -1/+43Have you seen the creatures people are creating? How do you call that 'intelligent design'?
- Myonosken, on 09/03/2008, -2/+42Dickosaurus
- Shreder1, on 09/02/2008, -2/+41"The game where you start out as a thing and you eat other things until you grow big enough and become another thing and then you can put things on your thing and eventually your thing builds a spaceship and you blow up other people's things." There EA; I expect the check in the mail.
- deepthot42, on 09/03/2008, -0/+39It's about $50
- valardur, on 09/02/2008, -3/+41The only thing they should explain to me is: Why do they keep adding more absurd copy-protection to drive away customers?
I love the idea behind the game, yet I fail to embrace all that nuisance. - lazerflesh, on 09/02/2008, -2/+29They should explain it like Pokemon to avoid any controversy.
- dullnation, on 09/03/2008, -0/+25Actually, "check" is acceptable with US English.
- Daedalus81, on 09/03/2008, -0/+20Apparently you've never tried to install a legally purchased game that has been crippled by copy protection.
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -1/+19That is because you are ignorant. I don't mean that as an insult, but did it ever occur to you that the reason that it sounds absurd is because you don't actually understand it? Quantum mechanics sounds absurd to me - but that doesn't mean it's wrong, only that I don't understand quantum mechanics.
- dsmx, on 09/02/2008, -4/+20I just want to ask EA one question about it why put a copy protection scheme on the game when the only effect it will have is to increase piracy?
- Darkyoshi1, on 09/02/2008, -2/+17"Evolution in your own hands" ?
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -1/+15Lolz... I'm pirating it right now - the only people I can see suffering from it are paying customers (which I'll admit I intend to be as soon as it's officially released in stores).
- conversekid, on 09/03/2008, -2/+16Why not get rid of the DRM, then we'll talk?
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+13You can only install the game 3 times, need a constant internet connection to run it properly, and securom is basically malware that takes total control of your computer in inappropriate ways. Wouldn't you find that a bit annoying? If not, then good for you, you're probably too dense to notice getting raped. But plenty others, myself including, might not so openly accept such retarded restrictions, and would get the pirated version instead, to get around this. This is how copy protection increases piracy.
- souljaboytellem, on 09/03/2008, -0/+13"Uh.....Spore is about.....umm......its quite simple really..see its how you...howd you guys like Madden 09?"
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -2/+14Simple - people pirate the game to get around the copy protection. There has never been a game designed with copy protection so effective it couldn't be broken.
- matt247, on 09/03/2008, -1/+13It's kind of like explaining what Viva Pinata is about
- shutaro, on 09/03/2008, -3/+14What is the internet blows up? What then Mr. Smart Guy, hmm??
- caddyalan, on 09/02/2008, -1/+11I saw a few ads for Spore on billboards recently, and wondered "So... what is this ad saying?"
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+10@appleofdischord
*facepalm* I was making a point - the fact that I find quantum mechanics absurd does not mean that it is absurd, or false for that matter. It is simply a reflection of the fact that I have not studied quantum mechanics. Obviously, quantum mechanics isn't absurd, and honestly, much of this universe would be absurd without it. - bloodypython, on 09/03/2008, -0/+9apparently its about being logged into wsj to read the full article...
- Falldog, on 09/03/2008, -0/+8Why not let word of mouth take care of things? It's more effective than commercial campaigns.
- joper90, on 09/03/2008, -0/+7its been pirated since yesterday, so it wasn't that hard obviously. unless im missing something (don't play pc games)
- DreKor, on 09/03/2008, -0/+7If you knew you were going to get a cavity search at the security line in the airport, would you still buy a plane ticket? I would choose to take the train instead.
- MxM111, on 09/03/2008, -1/+8There are several problems with Spore DRM. First, I can install it only 3 times (hell I have desktop and laptop, that's already too installs). And uninstalls do not return you right to install (why? Whose brilliant idea was it?)
Second, I am not sure that Spore has offline mode.
Third, I have not seen game that has not been cracked. So, again, it protects nothing, but makes a hassle to those who pays for the game. - inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+7The bullcrap about this copy-protection is it's just going to annoy and frustrate tons of legitimate gamers, frustrate a handful of pirates, and annoy the tiny few who are smart enough to crack it, and pirate it--and there ALWAYS a few, no matter which crazy thing they come up with next.
- davewelsh79, on 09/03/2008, -0/+7Since the insane copy protection only allows me to install the game three times I'm not going to buy it. I format my computer often enough that I'd have to buy a new copy every couple years. That doesn't take into consideration random hard drive crashes either.
So if I want to play Spore, I'll pirate it now. I was going to buy a copy before I heard about this DRM they put on it a few months ago. - Murdats, on 09/03/2008, -0/+7are you kidding, pirating the game is easy, all of that garbage is removed.
- TheBlackLotus, on 09/03/2008, -1/+7Look at George Bush. Explain Intelligent Design to me.
- plecostomus, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6The only things a creature "needs" to be saved and uploaded to the Sporepedia are:
1) At minimum a 2-vertebra spine.
2) A mouth.
Most of my recent creatures have been made using arms/etc in the place of the spine (to create different body shapes), accessories in place of feet, etc. I am assuming you're talking about the 2nd photo since the 1st is mostly generic creatures.
If you go to the Sporepedia and search for the tag "creatortip" you will find hundreds of unique ways to make new creatures. You could also just check out the featured creatures (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=ftr-ftrd%29 and download them to your copy of the CC to figure out how they were built.
Hope this helps. - skipdog172, on 09/03/2008, -4/+10Is it really that bad??? You purchase the game and have to activate it once. The only ever time you reactivate is when you do something that required online connectivity like online features, new downloadable content or a patch. Thus, you will never be sitting there without an internet connection, unable to play. You never have to have the CD in the drive. What is the problem? Why is having to activate a product that you purchased wrong??? I understand the entire "copy protection punishes the customer" concept, but when the copy protection consists of a single online activation upon install...? Why aren't you guys complaining about Steam?? I think it is one of the best game delivery systems out there and I can't see how a single online activation of Spore is so much different. It does not create even the slightest bit of pain for the user...if your internet is down, you couldn't use any of the online spore features anyways, OR download a patch.
I mean, don't pretty much all games that go on line require you to have a valid cd-key that gets authenticated with a server somewhere??? I just don't see how this is any different. You guys expect a company to remove all protection schemes so that a pirated copy can play online?? Are you kidding me??
The "what if I don't have internet" excuse is just not valid. I don't care what you say. The game requires internet. It is like buying world of warcraft and complaining that there isnt an offline mode. - inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6@Modiga I can't believe how stupid they were to limit the amount of installs, require the net for a game that can be played offline easily... only to have it all taken down and removed within a few hours of being released by people smarter than them. And the thing about patches and all that, you just know someone's going to release those on torrents as they come out too, so you won't have to worry about being out of date with a pirated version.
- counterplex, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6I'd consider myself a serious gamer but I never understood the appeal of The Sims. Spore is a better game than that. It's basically the creature creator combined with Civilization and Civ rocks :)
- RevEng, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6The problem is considerable, and it's not just Spore.
1) Activation schemes don't always work. When they don't, you have a CD with a game that you paid for, but you are unable to use it or to return it.
2) 3 activations isn't a lot. I have games that are over 10 years old that I still play. If I only had 3 activations on those, I wouldn't be able to keep playing them today.
3) It eliminates the possibility to lend, sell, or otherwise allow somebody else to use your copy of the game. While that may sound like piracy in and of itself, it is not, though it is against their EULA. There is a thing called the First Sale Doctorine that says, once I buy something, I'm free to sell it to somebody else; this is a right that the manufacturer cannot disallow.
4) These activations are only as good as the activation server. If EA decides to stop supporting activations at some point down the road, the game ceases to work. This isn't conjecture either; it has happened to many people who purchased games, music, and other software.
These are just a few reasons; I'm sure others could come up with more. I understand why companies like EA use DRM, but it's not in the customer's best interest and that is why customers are getting upset. - aladrin, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6Sadly, Murdats, once you figure in the time it takes to drive to the store, hope they have it, wait in line, buy it, and come back home, it's just as 'hard' to buy it as pirate it. Truth is, I can be productive while pirating and have to waste my time while buying it legit.
My solution has been to do both: I pirate it immediately while I wait for my preorder to be shipped to my door.
In this case, there's the added bonus of having the game 5 days early in addition to the usual 'no ***** DRM'. - Modiga, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6It might be somewhat understandable for them to implement anti-pirating measures if they actually worked. Since the game has appeared on torrent sites, it seems that their measures have failed and as a result hurt legitimate customers more than anyone pirating it.
- Murdats, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5lets set an arbitrary number for level of difficultiness to get/use/install, 0 being easiest.
game with no protection
buy 1
pirate 2
game with some protection
buy 3
pirate 2
game with lots of protection
buy 5
pirate 2
game with starfoce
buy 10
pirate 2
notice a trend here? games are always as easy to pirate, because 1 team does the work for you and then everyone else benifits, that 1 team may need to put in a bit more work but thats it. - TINZUSA, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5I want to know why the game uses SecuROM DRM to limit the customer to 3 activations. EA is telling us this prevents piracy, but illegal copies of the game without DRM are already in circulation.
Many people feel that the invasive DRM is being used to "Trojan Horse" customer computers so they can advance their agenda on pay-to-play video games. John Riccitiello, CEO of EA has even stated himself that he wants us to pay more for our games, effectively renting a bare bones game and then paying for the extra content. See http://venturebeat.com/2008/07/21/e3-perspective-a ... - c4sh, on 09/03/2008, -1/+6So...it's a show...about nothing?
- TotalHalibut, on 09/03/2008, -3/+8Well, I'm convinced. How could I not be with this guy's credibility?
- Spire3660, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5I'll tell you how. After being burned by Bioshock and their draconian activation, I will not support further uses of this scheme. I really truly was going ot buy the game, but now I will pirate it. Im a mid-30 professional with more than enough disposable income to buy any game I want. DRM literally makes me want to pirate it.
- TheUngod, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4"The game where you start out as a marklar and you eat other marklars until you grow big enough and become another marklar and then you can put marklars on your marklar and eventually your marklar builds a spaceship and you blow up other people's marklars."
- DreKor, on 09/03/2008, -1/+6Sony had a bit of a problem with a rootkit a while ago. It caused all kinds of security holes. The whole notion that you must be connected to play the game, just so it can babysit itself and know it's not stolen is ridiculous. I travel with my laptop and don't want to spring for WiFi at hotels, a 1 player game shouldn't require that. Also, there's system and network overhead that I don't want. Firewalls don't always like it when things try to call home.
Really, you're right, it's not a cavity search, it's just raping your computer. - shutaro, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5*rimshot*
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Care to elaborate any?
- davewelsh79, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Perhaps you don't know about the three-install limit. If you install this on your computer and your laptop you're still ok. But then what if you upgrade your video card and CPU? Now you have no installations left. If you suffer from a hard drive failure or decide to reformat or upgrade again, you're out of luck.
Supposedly you can call EA and they will decide on a case-by-case basis if they want to let you install the game again. I wonder if you'll be able to play the game 5 years from now though. - inactive, on 09/03/2008, -1/+5@joper90 It was released in Australia on the 1st, so they got it almost a week earlier than everyone else. Funny thing is a pirated version popped up just hours after it was released there, showing that these copy-write protection annoyances aren't going to do a damn thing.
- Murdats, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4because unlike securerom steam doesnt force me to restart my computer after having run process explorer (a common task manager) at any time.
securerom knows abouts this issue, and is infact "a feature" not a bug, so my problem is with games telling me how I can or can not use my computer. -
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