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- justin9, on 10/01/2008, -2/+165Great, it's about time some companies are beginning to admit this. TAKE NOTE RIAA.
- BenKenobi88, on 10/01/2008, -3/+105EA is doing this to get everyone off their backs...they're not "nice."
- HookmasterCH47, on 10/01/2008, -3/+91EA understands the issues, now can they actually execute the fix?
- AdeleMor, on 10/01/2008, -0/+65Not quite the same stance as the RIAA in their illegally downloaded products.
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: : : : : : :¯’’~~~~~~’’’ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : | : : : : : : : : : - dsmx, on 10/01/2008, -0/+40I'd agree with the moment EA stop using Securom.
- whahaa, on 10/01/2008, -4/+41this seems all well and good at first glance, but knowing EA i strongly suspect it's a trap.
- babylonian, on 10/01/2008, -1/+33And yet they continue with their incomparably restrictive DRM. I swear, it's like they are literally trying to be hated as much as possible.
The only thing more obnoxious than insisting on doing something without giving a good reason is giving a reason, acknowledging that it's ***** and that you're being unreasonable, and STILL CONTINUING TO DO SO ANYWAY. - acegi, on 10/01/2008, -2/+30well, that's ***** confusing.... why is he banging a man when he says he's not gay?
- bbqsalad, on 10/01/2008, -3/+28he's a republican
- JuXtaPoZd, on 10/01/2008, -4/+25i'm happy to see that a company is actually trying to reward those who spend their hard earned money on buying a game instead of punishing them because others decide to download instead. by giving access to better online in game material, that is not available in pirated copies, EA is taking a much better stance and setting an example for other companies.
- Azerael, on 10/01/2008, -4/+24We don't care that it's illegal. Illegality does not equate to immorality, and what is moral is defined by the culture of the people, not lobbyists for the record companies. History has shown that when laws have been passed that are largely ignored, nothing save martial law (and in some instances, not even that) can enforce them, and eventually they're scrapped or cease to be enforced. The seeds of modern democracy itself was formed in this way.
And, anyway; right now, we're more likely to be killed by a falling coconut then sued by the RIAA.
So really, who cares if it's illegal? Get off your CD-purchasing, DRM-loving high horse and chill out. The internet is a free music party and everyone's invited. If you don't like it, you can haul your restrictions-loving ass to China. - Fetttson, on 10/01/2008, -0/+19Mass Effect
(Bioware is part of EA now) - tbredofsin, on 10/01/2008, -4/+22Inaccurate description. Here is what EA actually said:
"[People] need to recognize that every BitTorrent download doesn’t represent a successful copy of a game, let alone a lost sale."
They're not saying there is no connection between piracy and lost sales. That would be ridiculous. They're saying that not everyone who torrents would have bought the game.
What they need to realize (and it seems they are, thank God) is that using such draconian DRM measures without giving anything back to customers (the way Steam does for example) is actually hurting their sales more than the piracy it's supposed to stop.
One last thing: To all Digg users who are extreme advocates of piracy, it's perfectly reasonable to think that piracy is wrong AND to think that DRM-without-benefits is stupid. - TrellSaracen, on 10/01/2008, -1/+19So piss off, then.
- DMDekoth, on 10/01/2008, -1/+16He didn't say the RIAA sued because they think it means lost sales, he didn't even mention lawsuits. The RIAA have publicly stated that they are LOSING money to piracy, that piracy is contributing to loss of sales.
- SpyDerMann, on 10/01/2008, -1/+15A wise man once said:
"I understand AND I care. Therefore, I pirate." - inactive, on 10/01/2008, -2/+15I understand, i just don't care
- TrellSaracen, on 10/01/2008, -1/+11More likely they will implement something even more draconian, with three or four totally unreasonable and pointless restrictions and limitations.
At which point, the gaming community will cry and scream and gnash their teeth, complaining about those unreasonable restrictions/limitations.
After a week of this, EA will "relent", and withdraw the two most complained-about restrictions...but keep the other(s) in place.
And then...well, you get the idea. - fuse13, on 10/01/2008, -5/+15@Azrael. I occasionally obtain stuff from the internet (though I must admit I actually pay for it more often) but I dont pretend there is some morality to what I am doing. I am doing the wrong thing. I am being selfish.
Maybe some of you people should actually man up and admit to what you are doing insted of trying to come up with some twisted reasoning as to why its morally OK.
I dont agree with the RIAA's bully boy tactics, but I wont pretend that copying an album isnt essentially wrong, whether you define it as theft or not. Trying to make a wrong a right to justify yourself? Gutless. - Ghostalker, on 10/01/2008, -0/+9It's a step in the right direction. Still a long way to go.
- 2Bnor2B, on 10/01/2008, -0/+9BF2 was one of the greatest multiplayer shooters ever made. The problem with EA is that they don't know when to stop. If EA took all the money they spend on micro transactions, in game advertising and DRM and gave it to the developers to release an update that only register users would get, piracy would go away. Respect your base, THEY are the ones that pay your bills. The best thing EA could do is fire their entire marketing staff and break the mold. Someone needs to take the chance in the company and decide "no more", release Red Alert with no DRM and just watch what happens!! Instead enclose a signed picture of the developers saying thank you and release a "thank you gift (new map etc..) " later in the months only to registered users. Trust me EA, this will work !!
- snached, on 10/01/2008, -0/+9dugg for a nice change.
- tbredofsin, on 10/01/2008, -0/+9Crysis. Yes, it's a pretty good shooter, and yes, you need a gaming computer from within the last year to play it.
- ToothyMcshark, on 10/01/2008, -1/+10Dugg for the anti-DRM creatures on Sporepedia.
- mrmiggidude, on 10/01/2008, -2/+10Weird to think this is the same company who released Spore.
- Seann7656, on 10/01/2008, -1/+9First the economy and now this?
We are surely in the end times.... - Orbis, on 10/01/2008, -0/+8EA's new DRM scheme is about preventing you bastards from re-selling their games to gamestop. Unlike piracy, every resale is a lost sale, that money belongs to EA, not you. You don't own the game, you're just licensing it from EA, and as a filthy consumer frothing at the mouth for their amazing non-derivative titles they'll push you with that license as far as they can to milk every penny out of you.
- zoomzoom83, on 10/01/2008, -4/+11Best. Analogy. Evar.
- Togusa09, on 10/01/2008, -0/+7Any idea when they'll figure out that DRM doesn't stop piracy?
- Anji-Mito, on 10/01/2008, -2/+9I know people are upset over Spore and everything, but EA isn't the worst company. They've been ***** before, but they're definitely doing better, and even at their worst (silly DRM because they don't seem to trust Steam) Activision is way, way more horrible. Even EA spoke out against what Activision was doing.
- inactive, on 10/01/2008, -1/+8neither do game companies that install DRM that messes up the copy you paid for..
- chaos7, on 10/01/2008, -0/+6"the company is getting ready to shift its approach so that it rewards the customer rather than punishing everyone for the sins of pirates"
it's about time - JoshuaGross, on 10/01/2008, -1/+7My guess: no
- inactive, on 10/01/2008, -4/+10It's all about the "lost income opportunity" idea, which is extremely bogus. Just because you could be making more money, and you aren't, doesn't mean you're losing anything. You can't bank on "could be".
- mrsteveman1, on 10/01/2008, -0/+6Yea, but admitting that you don't actually have the "lost sales" argument on your side when bitching about piracy removes all credibility when they start demanding things like new laws or ISP filtering.
- Johnnyjm, on 10/01/2008, -0/+5Well, at least they're not completely clueless, unlike a certain recording industry association I know...
hmmm.... - aznhomig, on 10/01/2008, -2/+7The right to copy?
- modifiedbears, on 10/01/2008, -1/+5Lot of talk from a company that refuses to walk the walk.
- inactive, on 10/01/2008, -3/+7@Azerael
Piracy is not theft in the legal sense, but it is definitely the moral equivalent to theft. No matter how little the artists make selling CDs, you are denying them their proper royalties when you pirate, and buying a t-shirt or concert ticket doesn't change that. The record label (there are non-RIAA labels, you know) is also entitled to their piece of the pie, and you're denying them that even after buying your t-shirt to support the artist.
I won't get on anyone's case for pirating - I'm not 100% clean myself, though I am getting closer to that. Just don't say that it's not wrong (legally and morally) when it is. - satanguy, on 10/01/2008, -0/+4hopefully the result will be the same, nonetheless.
- BugMeNot2, on 10/01/2008, -1/+5US retail PC sales != the whole of PC gaming, worldwide, including digital distribution
- latrosicarius, on 10/01/2008, -1/+5when you have to sign in with a account name and password, what good is it to enforce that a CD be in the drive with SecureRom? i don't own spore so i can't say if it works this way, but it does for CNC3 and BF2 and it makes no sense to me.
even blizzard came around, releasing no-cd patches for their games. they finally realized that it doesn't matter if a CD is in the drive or not, because everyone has to sign into battlenet with a unique CD key - inactive, on 10/01/2008, -1/+5Who isn't selfish with standards like that? People who hire movies = selfish, because they don't purchase them at full price. People who watch movies on tv = selfish, the makers of movies earn more income on a dvd sale. People who listen to the radio instead of buying CDs = selfish, because they don't buy the full albums of the music they listen to.
- dezertrat, on 10/01/2008, -0/+3no you didn't
- renegadeafk, on 10/01/2008, -1/+4crysis
- inactive, on 10/01/2008, -0/+3I have no idea what that had to do with ANYTHING related to this article... other than the word Spore.
- MajinAku, on 10/01/2008, -1/+4This is flawed. If you take next year off you're guaranteed not to make any income. There's nothing "potential" about that.
- Philmer, on 10/01/2008, -1/+4I wanted to digg up, but, the "evar" just ruined it.
- MarkBroadhurst, on 10/01/2008, -0/+3I've noticed that a lot of people were very anti EA, with good cause mostly.
Recently they have been appearing to try and get back on peoples good side.
I hope its a more perminant stance rather than just to boost public appearance for the next big shill. -
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