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- tidefan94, on 07/01/2008, -9/+70The one thing that I hate about the dashboard are the advertisements. We are already paying 50 dollars a year for live, why do they also have to use ads. Either take them away or make it free and heavily ad-supported.
- LimeParrot, on 07/02/2008, -5/+40I have a totally irrelevant complaint. When you play music on the Xbox 360... how come you can't fast forward it?? Seems a bit dumb.
- ChinezePanda, on 07/02/2008, -12/+35What I want is the option to partake in their batant advertisements..
*****!
WE PAY FOR THIS SERVICE!
The only service that advertises to it's user base is a service that is either FREE OF CHARGE... or.. FREE OF CHARGE and pulling in ad revenue dollars to compensate for the loss.
PSN = FREE.. Though I have yet to see an ad... ANYWHERE! - sparql, on 07/02/2008, -4/+25Do you pay for satellite radio service? Ads there
Do you pay for cable television? Ads there
Do you buy music off the iTunes store? Ads there
Do you pay to go to a movie? Ads there
I could go on and on if you would like.
You have to admit that at least the few ads they do show are ads that are of actual interest to their users. Last I recall all the current ads are related to free downloads, free content and a few in there for things you can pay to download.
It's not like they are running ads for Tampax tampons, or Foot powder. - CollapseControl, on 07/01/2008, -13/+33"disc tray detail—the PS3 lets you see a nifty little video icon to show what’s in the system. I’d settle for some box art or one screen, along with some details on my progress in the game. "
When you have a disc in the tray it does show you details on the game. It actually removes the ADs to show it (when you highlight the disk tray).
It shows the "Game Pic" of said game, the last 4 achievements, your total gamerscore & how many achievements you unlocked out of the total. - hsk1998, on 07/01/2008, -15/+30Outstanding. Everything said, and illustrated, would be a fantastic upgrade to the current dashboard.
- biggbear, on 07/02/2008, -0/+13I do not think > means what you think it means.
- Frazzlet, on 07/02/2008, -0/+12You are confusing, you started by saying Xbox 360 > All then go on a fanboy rant like I have never seen.
- CollapseControl, on 07/01/2008, -12/+24Although no one will ever argue that FREE would be the best way for LIVE, I will say that the ADs are NOT bad in any way. If anything they are VERY informative and doesn't sell you anything. There are really only 2 (2x4) ads that you can't remove, the others can be removed if you know how to use the dashboard.
A quick look at the ads right now and I see an ads for:
-COD:W@W video (good to see)
-Prizefighter demo (good to download)
-Street Fighter II BETA with Commando arcade (fun to play)
-COD4 Map pack (must have for the game)
-free Guitar Hero tracks (good to know)
-HTF:FA arcade game (trial)
-NCAA Demo
-Top Spin demo
-Free THE DARK KNIGHT theme & gamer pics
There you have it, 9 quick ads and only 1 has to do with a purchase. I would say that the dashboard ADs ADD life to the console, I wouldn't remove the ADs if I had a choice. And I mean really, how long do you stare at the Dashboard to get annoyed with it? Once you click into certain areas all ADs go away.
Now, if I were paying my cable bill and wasn't getting commercials then i'd be a little annoyed, but really, the ads on XBL are nothing to bitch and moan about. Something tells me you don't even use the 360 very often. - redneckblues, on 07/02/2008, -3/+14The problem is, you can't put important information on the edges of the screen. Some TVs chop the edges off a bit. (Overscan I believe)
- phorty40, on 07/02/2008, -0/+11Hello ChinezePanda ,
Im sorry you hate me , can we be friends again?
Thanks,
The World - ExRe, on 07/02/2008, -1/+12I'd rather it show the ads. At least the ads show new content/games I might be interested in.
If it was ads that are not related to the 360 it would be different. - doshindude, on 07/01/2008, -11/+22*forsees a bury brigade*
Don't say I didn't warn you. *gets in a bunker* - Newedge14, on 07/02/2008, -2/+11I just feel that having that huge wallpaper is just a chunk of wasted space and not "User Space". Although this design fits my minimalist natue.
- MagikOvenMit, on 07/01/2008, -6/+15Would we really need to dedicate THAT much space to our theme? That's over half the dashboard. Otherwise, it looks great.
- battletrax, on 07/03/2008, -0/+8You pay around $40 for cable a month, and guess what... you get ads.
Everyone complains about paying $50 once a year.
Watch tv for 5 mins, you get way more annoying Oxyclean™ ads than xbox live. - Thorpe, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8I agree. When you look at this and many of the other updates that were in that 'rumored' spring update, I thought it was too good to be true. Microsoft need to start listening to their users.
- xxbrighteyed, on 07/02/2008, -2/+10This is a fantastically written article, the analysis is completely spot on and he provides evidence for everything he says. If only everything of Digg was of this caliber.
- Asvetic, on 07/02/2008, -0/+7You can disable the ads... I've had my 360 for 3 years now and never knew that. how!?
- moxley, on 07/02/2008, -0/+7And here is the sort of response a corporation will give to your "We're already paying $50 a year" statement:
"You'd be paying $70 a year without the ads."
(I am not saying this is the case, only that it is the sort of response you'd be likely to get from a large corp like MS) - Protoss, on 07/02/2008, -2/+9It does make sense that Microsoft is going to revamp the Dashboard with the Fall update. They did skip the Spring update to work on other stuff, and a revamp takes quite a bit of work.
Although I don't believe Microsoft would totally abandon the idea of Blades, since they are a great way to organize content on the console. - phorty40, on 07/02/2008, -1/+7the only trolls that complain about dashboard ads are PS owners , honestly its not a hinderence or an eye swore , they blend in relatively well and hardly ever advertise a product detached from gaming ; its not as if they are trying to sell you Oxy Clean its usually an ad for a game or mcDonalds (who is doing a gaming promotion)
Although i must admit for a panda you type well. - sparql, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6Dude, you are picking and choosing to prove your point.
You have TIVO, great. If you literally pre-record 100% of the TV you watch, then I'm wrong. You never see any ads they cable companies charge you to watch. We won't even go into discussing how many ads are being designed now so they can still get a message across when you flip through them quickly.
As for ads on live, you're forgetting the ads that are, as you might say "ARE RELEVANT TO WHAT IM ABOUT TO PLAY". New guitar hero or rock band tracks? New CoD4 maps?, Free Dark Knight themes/pictures, Penny Arcade etc etc etc. The vast bulk of ads are directly related to things on live.
The exact quote from your original post was
"The only service that advertises to it's user base is a service that is either FREE OF CHARGE... or.. FREE OF CHARGE and pulling in ad revenue dollars to compensate for the loss."
I was simply illustrating that you are 100% wrong in that statement. Of course you won't recognize that. - Doomsan, on 07/02/2008, -1/+7Adblock?
- slimthps, on 07/02/2008, -1/+7Do you know anything about design? There are objects scattered everywhere. The simpler, the better.
- thereason222, on 07/02/2008, -3/+7Awesome suggestions. I agree with everyting, but have one tiny thing to add. a way to allow us to choose the background for each individual blade. currently when you use a custom picture as your background you only get one picture for ever blade. it would be much better if you could choose different pictures for each blade.
- DatoeDakari, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4Do you work for Sony or something?
- ExRe, on 07/02/2008, -1/+5Have 2 versions then. The current one for CRT's, then a better one for everybody else.
- T3rry, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4There's a big difference between using all the space and overcrowding it.
- frisbeeman, on 07/02/2008, -1/+5Look, if you're going to be a troll, at least switch up you act a bit. First thing I though when I saw that was "Hmm, that whole mess with the inequalities looks familar." How about some originality. You'll never make it to the troll hall of fame with these bush league comments.
http://digg.com/comedy/When_fanboys_attack_Digg_pi ... - rednaxela825, on 07/02/2008, -2/+6I guess I just wont know your secret.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4Often the "ads" are a reminder to get something for free..... You can't beat that.
- phorty40, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4You assume that i would bother to read your profile , and what else does the world owe you?
For someone arguing over symantics claiming that i can't read you clearly cant spell , unless "site" is a word only you are familiar with. - HCviolence, on 07/01/2008, -9/+13I'd like to be able to listen and respond to voice messages without having to bring up a blade that takes up half the screen.
- Peck3277, on 07/02/2008, -2/+6I dont have an XBox 360 tbh I prefer the ps3 but I think I speak for the whole world when I say shut the ***** up.
By the way this ">" is the greater than sign. Fail 1st grade much? - phorty40, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3good suggestion , especially in competitive games , it could literally be a life saver!
- Apocalyptic0n3, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3iTunes advertising is a bit different. You aren't paying to use the store, you're paying for the products the store has available that you wish to use. With Xbox Live, you are paying to actually use the freaking Marketplace and yet we are forced to see ads all over the place.
- phorty40, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3
By the way Old Spice sponsored a gaming tournament and yaris had its own XBL arcade game , the military sponsored a tournament i believe as well and all of the above had free themes and gamer pics .
Dont worry this isnt a Clockwork Orange no one is trying to brainwash you. - spydersvenom, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4Not to take sides, as I am a fan of both 360 and PS3 (different reasons for each) and my choice on games is different in those regards, but I can't get over the fact that PS3's online component (PSN) is much more passive in the system's main screen (XMB) and extremely light on ads in the store. If they can offer this for free, what gives with 360? Then again, I'm sure when home launches it will be a virtual whoring of every little digital piece of product placement imaginable, but still...
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3Lets examine your comment here...mmmkay?
Blu Ray...See I dont need a built in 2x Blu Ray player in my gaming machine, I have a stand alone that works just fine. In not having a 2x BR in my XBox I dont have to install the game onto my hard drive much like a PC, I can just slip in the disc and play the game.
Sorry, it is $50.00 a year for online play, and due to it being a pay service, and established, I get to weed out idiots such as yourself, a perk for paying. The Sony Network, while free, sucks some pretty serious ass, but hey it is free so you get what you pay for.
Touche on the wifi, but seems my wired works fine for me.
I do not hear my fan.
M$ steals money directly from their consumers!???? Ok Einstein, show me how MS is taking money from me when I play my 360.
I dont "Gotta" use 2 AA batteries when I play, I have a charge and play kit, no AA batts for me. Idiot.
Motion controls, your not talking about those crummy Wii like features that amazing PS3 controller has right? because Sony would never do anything like copy someone else's design * cough* Wii remote, Achievements * Cough*
I have no RROD. But while we are at it, lets look into the wonderful track record of Sony...........
Are you kidding me? No good Games?, come back tomorrow when you have seen what we have.
MS did not create the HD DVD, Toshiba Created the far superior HD DVD, Sony just managed to buy a winning format that is not even complete. Versions? come on, I have to wait till the end of the year to buy a second Blu Ray player, or a PS3 to watch special features. Sure Blu Ray won the war, but that does not mean it is a better format.
Next time, do some searching before you make a comment like "sony always wins baby... sony always wins! u cant beat sony". Because all they are known for is failure and now it is time they just buy their formats popularity. - inactive, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4I wish they would convert all demo movies to streams so I don't have to download 200 megs every time i want to watch a 5 min video. but that has nothing to do with a new dashboard.
Also the ability to use the mic in msn messenger would be nice.
The ability to make playlists with movies so i can watch my series without having to go back and select a new video would also be nice. - PowerLlama, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4Completely True. Have to put it within Action Safe or Title Safe, otherwise you're screwing a lot of people with CRT's.
- gregulate, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3i completely agree with you, i dont know why you're being dugg down...
- Thorpe, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3It's ok if you're on a child account. Adverts are *dangerous* for children and so they're non-existent.
- phorty40, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4you can. he just obviously doesnt own a 360.
- DjSandman87, on 07/01/2008, -8/+11This guy has the right idea, design should be evolutionary, not revolutionary. We try and try to find new and more exciting things to do with whatever we have but I think that's wrong. We should be finding better, faster, more enjoyable ways to do what we've already been doing.
- phorty40, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4More ads for free XBL is a win for me.
I honestly dont even pay attention to the ads anymore so it wouldnt bother me none , as long as theres no in game pop ups. lol - DatoeDakari, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3Wow, you're an idiot Dan, go back to school.
Reading how retarded this guy is, is pretty funny. - phorty40, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3i agree. one picture that is usually oddly skewed for all blades is not appealing but i suppose thats how they justify buying "themes" .
- TimmyGUNZ, on 07/02/2008, -3/+6Mirror?
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