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Does Survival Horror Really Still Exist?

kotaku.com — Survival horror – does it still exist?

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  • Stinkylicious, on 09/29/2008, -6/+83Yes. It's called "Left 4 Dead"
    • iamghost, on 09/30/2008, -12/+3I also heard it is called Fallout 3 and Resident Evil 5 (also play R2 and R4 if you haven't done so already)
      • RobotLeAwesome, on 09/30/2008, -4/+15action ≠ survival horror
      • rpgmaker, on 09/30/2008, -5/+1I think you're referring to Fallout 3, Robot, 'cause RE series is the creator of the survival horror.
      • Harbinger67, on 09/30/2008, -0/+6RE4 is not survival horror. I never once had an issue finding ammo or health in that game, thus it is automatically not survival horror.
      • bagboyrebel, on 09/30/2008, -0/+5two things.
        1) Since when has fallout ever been horror? It's a post-apocalyptic RPG and the new one is even more action oriented.
        2) As the article covered, RE4 and RE5, while being a continuation of a good horror series, have strayed a good distance from being true horror games.
    • Beanstudd2, on 09/30/2008, -12/+2Left 4 Dead is nowhere near survival horror.
      • passedoutghost, on 09/30/2008, -1/+2So running away from scary zombies to a helicopter trying to survive, is not survival horror?

        k.
      • rpgguy1o1, on 09/30/2008, -1/+3I agree, just because it has zombies doesn't make it survival horror. don't get me wrong the game looks awesome, i just don't think it fits the genre.
        castlevania certainly isn't survival horror.
      • Katana314, on 09/30/2008, -1/+3I say if you're given more than one gun...heck, if you can RELOAD, then it's not survival horror. I love Left4Dead too, but...it's a co-op action game, NOT survival horror as this article defines it.
    • Dustmuffins, on 09/30/2008, -1/+9Survival horror and online co-op were meant for each other.
      • Lunarbunny, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3You guys OK? Bob? Bob...?
        NOOOOOOOO
    • kinseyincanada, on 09/30/2008, -1/+4i thought Left 4 Dead was supposed to that kind of campy funny over the top horror games.
    • ausoff2, on 09/30/2008, -4/+2Dude, the games box is a rotten zombie hand with 4 fingers. No way this is survival horror.
    • Loornadune, on 09/30/2008, -3/+1You're ***** dumb.
  • Haoie, on 09/29/2008, -2/+19Horror, as a gaming genre, is often merged with other genres thesedays.

    For example, Doom 3 can be considered a horror. But also a shooter.
    • JollyDumple, on 09/30/2008, -2/+14I wish Doom 3 didn't try to be a horror game. The old Doom games weren't about being scary, they were about shooting demons.
    • whahaa, on 09/30/2008, -1/+4the question isn't about horror, it's about survival horror. the object of a survival horror game is not to run around killing things, it's to survive long enough to reach the next level.
    • Asshate, on 09/30/2008, -3/+2Doom3:

      BOO!

      PEW PEW PEW!
  • Nathrat, on 09/29/2008, -2/+6I've always been a huge fan of Resident Evil, looking forward to the new one, and Silent Hill: Homecoming as well.
    • rpgmaker, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3Man, the first Silent Hill was really scary. To me it was even scarier than RE (I prefer the RE series tho), that town just creeped the hell out of me.
      • Blandyman, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4Silent Hill 1, 2, 3, and 4 will always be the best survival horror titles. Resident Evil 1, 2, 3, CV, and 0 will always be great survival horror titles.

        However, RE4 (and now 5) have strayed too far and made the action too fast-paced to consider it survival horror. Yes, there are some EXTREMELY tense and scary moments in RE4 (walking in the village waiting to hear "Ayi esta!" or "Te voy a MATAR!" were great, but the rest of it was not suspenseful enough.

        Silent Hill: Origins was also pretty good, but it was nowhere near as scary as Silent Hill 1. I think it's probably because since you could walk between the fog layer and the evil layer at any time that killed it... where's the tension of being stuck in this hellish place if you can go back at any time? Either that, or maybe it was the 10fps, 200 polygon PS1 scenes. God, just thinking about that game scares the ever-loving ***** out of me.

        Silent Hill 5 looks like it's gonna be a little more survival-horror-ish than RE or any of the new titles in the genre, but it's not looking good.

        At least we can just hope for a new Fatal Frame title... or maybe Siren 2...
      • Blandyman, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Ran out of edit time, sorry.

        Ignore my comment about Siren 2. Apparently there's a PS3 sequel.

        GameStop, away!
      • volacide, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Are you not aware of Siren: Blood Curse Blandyman? It's available on the PlayStation Network and it's really badass. I just finished it yesterday actually.

        The Silent Hill series is much more survival horror than Resident Evil. Resident Evil borders on the action adventure genre much more than Survival Horror. It might have done it first but Silent Hill does it way better.

        I love both in their own respect but when I want to be scared, Resident Evil doesn't even do it for me. Silent Hill on the other hand actually gives me goosebumps just from the music. I just play Resident Evil for the environments. Going from regular places like a mansion or a police station to the inevitable secret laboratory is just timeless. It's one of the greatest series trademarks.

        Homecoming looks... different. It looks good still but it lets down fans of the series by changing so much (or not changing enough for that matter). The atmosphere looks like it holds true to the series though and in many ways that's enough.
      • Darkangel754, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Fatal Frame 4 on the wii is still survival horror
  • Twag86, on 09/29/2008, -4/+43I felt that Bioshock was one of the most frightening games i have ever played. Such good atmosphere, but didn't rely on cheap scares. Its kinda survival i guess.
    • ReeferChiefer42, on 09/30/2008, -1/+16Bioshock was amazing, but I'd hardly call it a "survival" game when there's revitalizing chambers in damn near every room with NO penalty for being brought back. Not to mention that even on hard mode you were given more ammo, med kits, adam, guns, etc. than you knew what to do with. Great game but I never felt I was fighting to stay alive.
      • Twag86, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3It wasnt survival in terms of gameplay, but the overall feeling of the story had a survival feel to it. From when you first step out of the bathysphere, to getting the wrench, to the upgraded weapons and invented ammo.
      • ZeMoose, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Even though Bioshock is one of my favorite games ever, I do kinda wish they had backed up the survival-themed story with a better resource management element. The story, music, and atmosphere all said "survival horror" but the gameplay said "shoot-'em-up".
      • Blandyman, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2I think it all had a horror element to it, but not survival horror.

        In Bioshock you're stuck underwater. In Silent Hill, you're stuck in a town. In Bioshock you're trying to escape, merely escape, but in Silent Hill you have a purpose for being in the town and you have to delve deeper to save who you need to save. He could probably leave at any time if he wanted to, but in Bioshock, he can't just break the glass and swim... he's stuck in the middle of the Atlantic!

        I know it's sort of the same thing... but the distinction is different: in Bioshock, your survival is most certainly not guaranteed no matter what you do. In those other titles, you feel, as long as you complete your objectives, you'll make it alright.
    • ZenMojo, on 09/30/2008, -0/+8Bioshock was what I was thinking of. Nothing helps you lose your ***** than digging through a desk and turning around to see a Houdini Splicer smiling at you with his crooked grin whispering, "Hi."

      Granted, I shot him in the face with a shotgun blast before I even had time to realize what was going on, but three seconds later I was freaking out over his corpse.
    • JenovaWitness77, on 09/30/2008, -0/+0Except for the coffin thrower. I hate that lady.
  • Inohavehalos, on 09/29/2008, -1/+7Dead Rising had a reloading problem. All of the guns had 30+ bullet size clips? EH. And that game was more about comedy than it was about horror IMO
    • bentrinh, on 09/30/2008, -1/+12Who plays it for the horror? It's all about creative ways of zombie bashing :D
  • Elliottx, on 09/30/2008, -9/+4Nah not really.

    A TRUE survival horror game would have to be gritty and harsh. None of that "Body armor makes me invincible" *****.
  • chuck667, on 09/30/2008, -3/+5I'll swallow your soul.....
  • Croecop, on 09/30/2008, -7/+1That was a lot of text for something that should have been a list
    • bagboyrebel, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2what? how could you have made that a list, it was about the gradual shift from Japanese style horror games to a more western, action-oriented type of game.
  • Looi, on 09/30/2008, -5/+0indeed
  • Sylenus, on 09/30/2008, -5/+4no.
  • z00k, on 09/30/2008, -8/+2tl;dr
  • megaton, on 09/30/2008, -3/+10Uhm, Siren: Blood Curse, anyone?

    If you missed that, you've missed one of the most amazing survival horrors in a LONG time...and it adheres to the traditional formula very nicely.
    • coheedcollapse, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4I agree. Siren Bloodcurse singlehandedly made me less upset about the large probability of Silent Hill: Homecoming sucking big ones. It's an excellent game and totally worth the money.

      Don't let the short first chapter turn you off. You'll know the game was worth every single penny as soon as you control the young girl in the creepy hospital. It gets incredibly intense.
      • cjshamrock, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2*****, only for ps3
      • Blandyman, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3Oh, wow. There is a sequel to Siren?

        Sorry, I don't give a ***** about any other reason why I was holding out on PS3. I'll get one as soon as I've got the cash. I love Siren!
      • volacide, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Yeah it's great. I just sat down and beat it yesterday. The graphics are quite excellent the only gripe I have is the controls. I'm used to clunky controls in survival horror games but this takes it to a WHOLE other level. I can play Resident Evil with it's prerendered backgrounds and all like it's a simulation racing game, it's second nature.

        But Siren... holy crap it's strange. Basically you have to play it and get used to the fact that you really can't be manipulating the camera with the right stick while you're moving, it just won't end well. Even the other camera option that centers it behind the character doesn't help either. It's unfortunate because I feel I could have enjoyed it more, but that being said, I still enjoyed it a lot.

        I actually think I'll be going back through and playing it entirely in first person a second time through.

        Anyways, I think Homecoming will be disappointing, but I'm open to the possibility that it won't be as bad as I initially thought. Some of the recent images I've seen, especially of the first boss design look very promising.
    • CrushThemTorg, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2That game is highly ***** up, but ultimately one of the better examples of a genre we just don't see too much of these days.
    • PopASquatt, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Exactly what I thought, truly SURVIVAL worthy. Glad to see other people share my views.
  • Chompy, on 09/30/2008, -5/+2Speaking of Resident Evil and it's ilk, check this out:

    http://8tharmy.korea.army.mil

    coincidence?
    • chokeaduck, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3That had the longest disclaimer message ever.
    • FTLJohnson, on 09/30/2008, -0/+5----------
      A T T E N T I O N

      THIS IS A DOD COMPUTER SYSTEM. BEFORE PROCESSING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, CHECK THE SECURITY ACCREDITATION LEVEL OF THIS SYSTEM. DO NOT PROCESS, STORE, OR TRANSMIT INFORMATION CLASSIFIED ABOVE THE ACCREDITATION LEVEL OF THIS SYSTEM. THIS COMPUTER SYSTEM, INCLUDING ALL RELATED EQUIPMENT, NETWORKS, AND NETWORK DEVICES (INCLUDES INTERNET ACCESS) ARE PROVIDED ONLY FOR AUTHORIZED U.S. GOVERNMENT USE. DOD COMPUTER SYSTEMS MAY BE MONITORED FOR ALL LAWFUL PURPOSES, INCLUDING TO ENSURE THEIR USE IS AUTHORIZED, FOR MANAGEMENT OF THE SYSTEM, TO FACILITATE PROTECTION AGAINST UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS, AND TO VERIFY SECURITY PROCEDURES, SURVIVABILITY, AND OPERATIONAL SECURITY. MONITORING INCLUDES, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO, ACTIVE ATTACKS BY AUTHORIZED DOD ENTITIES TO TEST OR VERIFY THE SECURITY OF THIS SYSTEM. DURING MONITORING, INFORMATION MAY BE EXAMINED, RECORDED, COPIED, AND USED FOR AUTHORIZED PURPOSES. ALL INFORMATION, INCLUDING PERSONAL INFORMATION, PLACED ON OR SENT OVER THIS SYSTEM MAY BE MONITORED. USE OF THIS DOD COMPUTER SYSTEM, AUTHORIZED OR UNAUTHORIZED, CONSTITUTES CONSENT TO MONITORING. UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THIS DOD COMPUTER SYSTEM MAY SUBJECT YOU TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. EVIDENCE OF UNAUTHORIZED USE COLLECTED DURING MONITORING MAY BE USED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE, CRIMINAL, OR OTHER ADVERSE ACTION. USE OF THIS SYSTEM CONSTITUTES CONSENT TO MONITORING FOR ALL LAWFUL PURPOSES.
      -----

      WTF??????
    • 42Vindictive, on 09/30/2008, -0/+5What the *****?
  • RobotLeAwesome, on 09/30/2008, -1/+8Resident Evil isn't survival horror anymore, Silent Hill is, I can see the argument for Left4Dead possibly, and I sure as hell hope Dead Space is.

    Also, Fallout 3... Survival RPG?
  • Lyavain, on 09/30/2008, -3/+6Siren. Amazingly hard survival horror game. At least, it was hard for me. Still have not beaten it.
    Also, no mention of Eternal Darkness? That was the survival horror game that got me into the genre.
  • Killbuzz, on 09/30/2008, -5/+4The only games that can keep this genre alive is Dead Space and the new Silent Hill. Resident Evil turned into a bang bang gun ho game since RE: 4
  • X9001, on 09/30/2008, -2/+3The abysmal control schemes and camera angles we had in the survival games of "yesterday"(resident evil 3) are no longer considered acceptable. Survival Horror games of today are going to look like Dead Space and Left 4 Dead(more actiony)
  • cloak419, on 09/30/2008, -3/+22Condemned Criminal Origins ***** me up for a few weeks.
    Surround sound in a dark room after ripping the bong.
    Alot of WTF moments.
    • Katana314, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3While that one had a lot of action and fighting, I definitely agree; psychologically, Condemned was in the right spot.
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  • KillsTheWeak, on 09/30/2008, -1/+2D was my all time survival horror favorite. No action, unless you count dodging a few time. Yet scary as *****, and had a creepy atmosphere and puzzles. Has a nice twist too.
  • IndigoMoss, on 09/30/2008, -1/+9I think the perfect example of a survival horror game now a days is Stalker: Shadows of Chernobyl (haven't played Clear Sky yet). You're stuck in this truly creepy environment, with just a pistol and a few bullets. At the same time you are surviving in this bleak world, all of the human AI in the game is trying to do the exact same thing, so you'll see them go around fighting other groups of NPCs over camps and resources, but at the same time, you'll see them run away. It has a great mix of flight or fight, which I think really makes a good survival game.

    This is further enhanced when you play with the mod Oblivion Lost, which adds random blowouts. These blowouts are massive radiation storms that harm anything in it. So you have to rush to find shelter, but at the same time everything else in the zone you're currently in is trying to do the same, whether they're friendly or not. This is further enhanced by non-human AI rushing into the territory after the blowout to feed. So you not only have to survive the storm, but you have to survive the people heading to shelter, and then the onslaught of mutans, dogs, bears, ect. after the storm.

    This is one of the few games where I've really felt like I was out surviving with limited resources.
    • CaptainWalker, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4I fully agree. I think Stalker has been one of the only games that has scared me to a point where I need to take a five minute break and step out for a bit. It is truly one of the most atmospheric games I've ever played. If GSC and the developers could just take one more step and polish the bugs and rough edges it would truly be one of the better games ever made.
    • Katana314, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1I think I broke the game, by keeping a stash of thousands of bullets at the Bar.
    • bagboyrebel, on 09/30/2008, -4/+1I didn't play through the whole game so maybe I missed something, but I don't remember any horror elements to the game. Yeah, there was a lot of survival elements, but it wasn't a scary game.
      • ortucis, on 09/30/2008, -2/+2"I didn't play through the whole game.."

        There really isn't a point in posting your comment on the game if you haven't, right? Go play HALO, maybe you'll find the ***** quality on PC scary (I did :P).
      • noerrorsfound, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Apparently you barely played the game at all. :-/
      • bagboyrebel, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1instead of calling me an idiot can you tell me what about the game was scary.
      • noerrorsfound, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1The labs?
    • ele1122, on 10/03/2008, -0/+0I wholeheartedly agree, yet I've never finished the game as it constantly crashes.
  • frieddonuts, on 09/30/2008, -3/+10Super Mario scares the bejesus out of me : )
  • GoKings, on 09/30/2008, -1/+5Survival horror games have been bogged down because too many people have complained about combat mechanics that they just scrapped the idea altogether. Sure it became annoying sometimes in Resident Evil when I had 4 bullets, limping, and couldn't figure out where the hell I wanted to go. But I'll be damned if beating the game didn't feel like an accomplishment with some damn adrenaline pumping through me most of the way.

    Today people want action along with the cheap thrills. So you get a game like FEAR which was in fact pretty scary, but was also an action based game. With the graphics of today they could make an amazing survival horror game, and BIOSHOCK definitely wasn't survival horror, but it was the closest we've gotten lately.
    • sklter84, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2I agree, and it's pretty much a problem with the current gen where everything is homogenized. If a game has guns people expect it to be like Halo or GoW. You can't really have a horror game with highly trained super secret ops commandos either (looking at you Jericho) which are the main characters people expect to play as.
      • Blandyman, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Jericho was horrible, horrible, derivative, trash.
  • Asianwaste, on 09/30/2008, -1/+8Survival horror can be derived from a simple formula: Scary Situation + Supplies = Survival + Horror.
    The first Resident Evil is a good (not the best but still good)example of this formula.

    Lately they've been getting it wrong with the addition of an unnecessary variable (Ample)

    Scary Situation + (ample)Supplies = Survival + (Horror - Horror)
    The best example of this formula is Resident Evil 2. The game was fun, but just wasn't scary. Zombies tend to be less scary when you have assault rifles, flame throwers, and enough bullets for each man, woman, and child in China.

    If you want to raise a pulse in those games, you need to put the player in the situation where they have to question whether or not it's worth taking the shot. These games should not be played where it's possible to kill everything that moves. Thus "survival". Failing that, you need to give the player a sense of helplessness. The ease of mortality in each and every foe empowers the player and takes away the horror.
  • scot333, on 09/30/2008, -4/+2Survival horror is our lives dude!
  • Ogedei, on 09/30/2008, -3/+2Buried.

    We always need more Space Marines.
  • sexybobo, on 09/30/2008, -1/+19Ravenholm in HL2?
    • cusoman, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Yes.
    • bagboyrebel, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4definitely had a creepiness factor to it but it's still a long way from the survival horror genre.
    • petebot, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Using only the gravity gun.
  • FireStalker69, on 09/30/2008, -3/+1yes but only when looking at the maturity level here on diggchan!
  • b17flygirl, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Next to the Silent Hill series I think the Fatal Frame series is the second best.
    • petebot, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Is that game backwards compatible on the 360?
  • wizardcombat, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Some say maybe. Others aren't so sure.
  • tweetsa, on 09/30/2008, -2/+0this is the same problem with zombie movies. I hate fast zombies because it changes the focus from the people that you're holed up with, and the issue of supplies to a simple ono we're being chased.
  • onidraky, on 09/30/2008, -1/+3Yes, and the newest entry in the best series ever just came out in Japan. I'm talking, of course, about Fatal Frame IV.
  • twigboy, on 09/30/2008, -0/+6Does it still exist?
    Not in Australia it doesnt.
  • AngryAngryBrian, on 09/30/2008, -0/+12I am still waiting for a single player zombie game where they plop you down randomly in some building doing you day to day life BS when suddenly things get bad. Decide if you want to work with other humans or avoid them. Scavenge food, ammo, and supplies while other NPCs are doing the same and the hoards of the undead randomly hunt for survivors. There is no mission to stop the invasion, you are not some secret agent trying to find the cause. You are John Q Nobody and you have five shotgun shells left, a family behind you, and an army of mindless blood thirsty monsters bashing down your door. You don't have enough food, who doesn't eat? When your wife turns and you have to kill her you will have to watch your children suffer the loss as humanity crumbles into extinction.

    That aside, I think survival horror is alive and growing. I think we are going to see some really good titles in the coming years. Also Left 4 Dead and RE4 look good.
    • karel747, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4As a proponent of the Zombie Apocalypse, I too dream of such a game - and it will certain be a helpful training system for the looming global zombie infestation.

      Zombies/Evil Dead '08
    • kinseyincanada, on 09/30/2008, -2/+1im preety sure Left 4 Dead does exactly that.
    • TurdFaceManLove, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Exactly, everytime I ***** around in GTA IV i think of how awesome it would be if only it was a zombie survival game.
  • NathanielJ, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Is anyone else saddened and extremely worried by the lack of SH5 reviews (well, OK, there's exactly one review out there), considering the game is released tomorrow?
  • JollyDumple, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4I don't feel like writing my opinion all over again, so I'm just gonna copy and paste what I wrote in the Kotaku comments:


    The description in the beginning pretty much exactly describes STALKER. That game really makes you feel like you're trying to survive, whether you're hiding out in an attic in some abandoned house while mutant dogs bark and howl in the distance, sneaking through an old warehouse or prison, or even when you're in the middle of a battle (the gunfights in that game can be long and intense). At certain times it's as scary as any other game I've played.

    I think the survival horror genre is simply evolving. People need to realize that a game doesn't have to be outdated and nearly impossible to play in order to be scary. Resident Evil was amazing when it first came out. Silent Hill was a good step forward from that. Now we have games like STALKER, Siren: Blood Curse, Dead Space, and Left 4 Dead. Each of these games takes the survival horror genre and puts its own unique twist on it. The open environments and dreary atmosphere of STALKER, the episodic story telling of Siren, the real time menus and "strategic dismemberment" of Dead Space, and the cooperative teamwork in Left 4 Dead; they're innovating, just as our old favorites did back in their days. Maybe these newer innovations haven't caught on quite yet, but survival horror is not dead by any means.

    If it was, it would've already risen from the grave to eat your flesh by now.
    • FFXIfrohike, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1I dunno... I tend to think the genre has been picked clean by game engines that can handle the horror aspects much more cleanly and effectively, like say Bioshock. Anything that "builds on" the more ridiculous tropes and conventions that the genre has held since the PS1 days, mostly due to hardware limitations and the typical JP mentality of "identical is better," is beating a dead horse.

      Survival horror is dead. Long live the new horror.
  • CardinalFang, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Sure it still exists. I think it's just that many of us who played the genre quite a bit are no longer scared of what they throw at us. The first time played Resident Evil 2 (I hadn't played 1 yet), I jumped when that licker busted into the interrogation room. The more of them you play, the more the scare factor diminishes. To put it simply, it just doesn't have the same effect, if any, because we're used to it.
  • crashingechelon, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1In the way that survival horror was created I'd say that it is dead. With how games are now days since the game design and gameplay styles have all seemingly merged into one thing, it's now a matter of how the story is told.
  • evileddy60, on 09/30/2008, -2/+1System Shock 2.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLMk1E41kE
  • CanUTube, on 09/30/2008, -2/+2Ummm, Left 4 dead? Ravenholm in hl2? Zombie mod in cs:s? RE4? STALKER?

  • RSS14, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3Who here remembers The Thing? That game was wicked.
  • Treblex, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Silent Hill: Homecoming is out tomorrow! Yay!
  • ShadowXOR, on 09/30/2008, -3/+1Leigh Alexander is a dumb bitch and this article is retarded. Yes it still exists. Just because Resident Evil 4 became more action oriented doesn't mean it's dead.
  • BuenoCabra, on 09/30/2008, -0/+0Clock Tower. Holy crap.

    KA-SHING! KA-SHING!
  • doubledmateo, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1I think it's still too early to make a judgement about RE5. I agree that the trailers we've seen seem heavy on action, and short on horror, but depending on which sections of RE4 you show off, you could come away with the same impression, but that game still has some good horror sections. Speaking of which I've been replaying that game right now, and I freaking love it. Sure it isn't as frightening as the earlier ones, but for me it was infinitely more enjoyable, and still had some pulse pounding horror moments. (fighting the regenerator creatures was a major one for me.)
  • SniperZed, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3I can't believe that they failed to mention S.T.A.L.K.E.R, as in my opinion it is the most perfect example of the survival game they describe in the introduction
  • Gatesophile, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2My favorite survival horror games are Siren and Eternal Darkness. Siren is pretty hard (for me at least) and really scary. Eternal Darkness goes straight for the psychological freakouts (most not even relating to actual gameplay, it's "Sanity Effects" would lead you to believe your Gamecube shut off, the volume is screwing up, you can't save, etc.) If you've never checked them out, I highly recommend them.
  • PosedMagnet, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2NOTHING was more ***** up than going through Toluca Prison in Silent Hill 2. NOTHING.

    Seriously the most psychologically disturbing thing I've ever experienced, whether it's a game, movie, or whatever.
    • peterredding, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Dammit! Now I want to play SH2 again but I've lent my PS2 to a friend!!!
  • ausoff2, on 09/30/2008, -1/+2Holy crap.
    I'm digging a kotaku article.
  • glowingtree, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1I still remember the first Aliens vs. Predator game. The first version (before any patches were released) had no saves. That combined with the hardest difficulty made me nervous playing the game even with the Predator.
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