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Diablo 3 IS Coming
diablo3.com — Diablo3.com compiles a list of Evidence that points to the creation of Diablo 3 by blizzard. They include answers to common arguments, job postings by blizzard, domain purchases by blizzard and everything that points to the making of Diablo 3 up until now.
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- davidv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8If you listen to the gaming steve podcast that guy is always saying "I know for a fact that Diablo 3 is being worked on right now" :P
- Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16The only argument I disagree with is that they say "Diablo 3 is a license to print money". Unless you've been under a very large rock the past year, Blizzard already has a license to print money, it's called World of Warcraft and it pulls in almost as much cash in a month as Diablo 2 has pulled in overall. The only question now is, is it worth it to sacrifice programmer power for a game that is going to generate more publicity than revenue? I imagine Blizzard has discussed the possibility of making Diablo 3 a MMO considering the success of their last shot at it.
- chamblah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@Moocat
IN regards to pulling programmers from WoW to work on D3: Diablo is developed by Blizzard North, which is basically a different department that the folks that worked, and are working, on WoW.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_North
But after reading that Wiki entry it seems that Blizz North is not around. Though I am sure I had read a post last year on the WoW forums by a community rep stating that Blizzard North folks are the ones working on Diablo stuff.
/shrug - r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7Can I just say .... OH ***** YEAH. Diablo rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooocks.
- Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ chamblah
I did not say anything about pulling programmers, this is because they would obviously hire new people to work on it. The thing is, even with the mountain of money they have, they still have to allot resources to different areas, and the question being whether they would put resources toward a new game when they could allot "more" resources to an already thriving game. This includes money AND people, meaning they would have to decide whether to hire 10 new programmers for Diablo 3, or 10 new programmers for World of Warcraft expansions. - phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I sure hope so. They've been working on these ***** warcraft games (sorry, I never liked the series) for way too long. It went warcraft III, warcraft III exp, WOW, WOW exp, and apparently a warcraft movie now. Meanwhile they haven't even touched the starcraft series for 10 frigging years (promised us SC: Ghost, but never delivered). At this point I'd even settle with diablo.
- iLogiK, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1seriously....why would they even think of launching Diablo 3? (even as a MMO?)
it would only take revenue away from WOW.... - dainbramage559, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I believe blizzard is not in game making just for the money. Blizzard seems to really care about the quality of the product, with support for their games long after they have been released (WC3 for example). They truly are game enthusiasts, and know how to make fun games.
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1If that was true, there would be mac and gnu/linux ports...
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@Dainbramage
"I believe blizzard is not in game making just for the money. Blizzard seems to really care about the quality of the product"
I would have agreed with you pre-WoW but now I wholeheartedly disagree. Diablo and Starcraft were awesome games on their own, but were a zillion times better thanks to Battle.net which is a free online matchmaking service Blizzard has run for more than 10 years now. I loved Battle.net and actually taught myself a lot of french by playing exclusively with francophones. Zut alors!
But WoW is the opposite methodology. They charge $15/m, have tons of scheduled and unintended downtime, sell you the box or distribute it on ad-ridden Filefront, force users to send eachother patches via Bittorrent, and new patches come in VERY slowly which prevents you from playing the game at all. In my opinion the WoW Blizzard is not the same old Blizzard I've known and loved since the WC2 and Blackthorne and Lost Vikings days.
Plus Bill Roper left Blizzard North along with most of the original Diablo team so who knows whether the sequel will be any good. After getting bored to tears with the Titan Quest demo I'm skeptical that there's any innovation left in this genre.
For details on the horrible experience I had with my WoW trial check out:
http://demodulated.blogspot.com/2006/06/world-of-morepatch.html
Though my blogger name is Brian Damage so maybe I'm just your grumpy doppleganger. - DoodleMaster, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2HALLELUJAH HAAALELLUJA HALELUJAH HALLEUJAH HAAA LEEEHHH LUUU jAHH.
Please be seated lord we thank you for bring us diablo 3 can i get an amen. *amen*
OMG TO ALL YOU MOTHAFOCKAS OUT THERE WHO SAID IT WASN"T COMNIG SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT - DoodleMaster, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I tried to spell check, but it wouldn't let me.
- pollardito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"If that was true, there would be mac and gnu/linux ports..."
it works on Mac's just fine. afaik, all of Blizzard's products have shipped with Mac support since at least the original Diablo - maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6http://www.hellgatelondon.com/
bilzzard north, the guys that made the diablo series, was originally their own company- until they were bought by blizzard and had thier name changed to blizzard north. when vivendi universal bought blizzard, there were arguments between them and blizzard north, and basically the people who made diablo I and diablo II left blizzard, and started working again in a new company that they all created, flagship studios. It's bascially blizzard north without the rights to the diablo franchise.
The game they are currently developing is Hellgate: London, wich is basically a futeresque Diablo game. - terminalpariah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@maiku00: not to mention all the talented staff that left Blizzard to form Arenanet. Guild Wars is awesome and I'm sure that Hellgate: London is going to kick ass but I don't have very high hopes for Diablo 3 or Starcraft 2.
- Umaro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah, seems a couple people that run other blizzard sites, or are in the gaming PR industry all seem to say they have heard stuff relating to diablo 3 being made.
- r0ck3tm4nn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Oh man, when Diablo 3 does come out...someone's gonna be screwed out of a sweet URL name...
- WVUChrisF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I really hope this happens. Keep your fingers crossed everyone. :crosses fingers:
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7All I want is World of Starcraft.
- billisdog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I almost doubt it. Yes, it makes sense, but at the same time, you realize that even if it became a best seller like StarCraft the money that any ordinary shelf-style game could make Blizzard would be absolute chump change next to WoW.
Waiting for the comments to ask "Will it be a MMORPG? I WANT MY WORLD OF DIABLOCRAFT"- ikonoclasm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Do you really think Blizzard is going to bite itself in the ass by releasing D3 any time in the near future? WoW just passed 6.5 million accounts worldwide. They'll slowly start developing D3 now, but we're not going to actually see it for a long time.
While not wanting to villify Blizzard, you can't expect them to let up on the cash-cow that is WoW right now. They'll wait until growth slows dramatically, then start developing D3. In the meantime, I assure you they're much more focused on providing content and stability to WoW's ravenous population. To do otherwise would be a huge mistake on their part. - dainbramage559, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I disagree. Good software companies don't release one product then ride it out til it's finished. They keep producing.
Blizzard cares about the people who play their games. You can see this in the long term support and patch releases they have for their games. Now, they seemed to have fallen short on Starcraft: Ghost, since they wanted to create a great gameplay experience, but really the problem was the hardware it was bound to, which had become dated.
Blizzard knows it has fans for its Starcraft, Warcraft, and Diablo titles, and I am sure they will continue these series. - dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Blizzard knows it has fans for its Starcraft, Warcraft, and Diablo titles, and I am sure they will continue these series."
I sure hope you're right. I love my WOW, but my RTS hand is twitching, and I can't satiate the thirst. I need Starcraft like Tyrone Biggums needs crack. - Rayonic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Diablo 3 wouldn't be an MMORPG, but they probably can't keep it the exact same as Diablo 2.
Some ideas of how they might change it:
*) Mandatory-but-free online play realm, like Guild Wars.
*) Emphasize party dynamics more, a little like Dungeon Siege.
*) Big, non-linear world, kinda like Oblivion.
*) More large-scale battles, like what was simulated in the D2 expansion.
I don't know about any of that, but it seems like a straight-up sequel to Diablo 2 wouldn't have a place in today's market. - Daveecee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ ikonoclasm
Like people would stop playing World of Warcraft because a new Diablo game came out? It's not exactly the most difficult thing in the world to play two games side by side. - RAiNsTorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5But, amazingly, some of us out there do not like WoW. So right now Blizzard is making $0 from me and a number of friends who find no joy in WoW. There are many more than 6.5 million people in this world, and many gamers who do not like WoW. D3 would open my wallet, though, and most likely a large number more. That is the point of making games, not making one really popular one and hoping to ride that wave for the next 5 years.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Now, they seemed to have fallen short on Starcraft: Ghost, since they wanted to create a great gameplay experience, but really the problem was the hardware it was bound to, which had become dated."
Is that really the problem? I figured they got scared away by very stiff competition like Metal Gear and Splinter Cell. - dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"But, amazingly, some of us out there do not like WoW. So right now Blizzard is making $0 from me and a number of friends who find no joy in WoW. There are many more than 6.5 million people in this world, and many gamers who do not like WoW. D3 would open my wallet, though, and most likely a large number more. That is the point of making games, not making one really popular one and hoping to ride that wave for the next 5 years."
But there's 6.499 million people like me who love wow, and essentially purchase the equivalent of a full game every three months from Blizzard. That's like a game company creating a best seller every three months. Call me crazy, but I think non-WoW gamers like you are on the bottom of their priority ladder, at least for now.
- ikonoclasm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Do you really think Blizzard is going to bite itself in the ass by releasing D3 any time in the near future? WoW just passed 6.5 million accounts worldwide. They'll slowly start developing D3 now, but we're not going to actually see it for a long time.
- warfang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8They'll either be sued or make tons of money off that domain name.
- djg38, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6I hope they make it just to prove they still know how to make good games. WoW ruined the legacy Blizzard had created.
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Are you on crack?? WoW rules the MMORPG's.. and when I say rules, I mean it's dominance is scary. They have over 50% of the MMORPG players! That's a ton!
Jesus Christ that was the lamest statement I've ever heard.. it almost has to be sarcasm. - ElectricGrandpa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Everyone who says WoW is terrible is obviously in the minority and has tastes that don't reflect those of most people... Or they just like to rebel against things that are popular... Either way, the sales PROVE that WoW is an amazing game.
- DougieD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Grandpa, sales don't mean ***** in terms of critical success. Hillary Duff has sold 5.5 million CDs to date; does that mean that she's a great artist?
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Are you on crack?? WoW rules the MMORPG's.. and when I say rules, I mean it's dominance is scary. They have over 50% of the MMORPG players! That's a ton!
- krazytom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Whelp, there goes another 2 years of my life.
- Scopitone, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1...
- Eggpuck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I thought the poll on the site was interesting. I would prefer 3D but a far of 3rd person view as in the other games.
- k3n85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I should eat my words when i say "Diablo 3 would be heaven on Earth"
- Cynoclast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Headline infers certainty from speculation. Hence its a lie. I'll believe Diablo III is coming when Blizzard says it is, and not before.
- xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4I hope to god it isn't yet another MMO!! WoW is a horrible thing!! look at this: http://www.wowdetox.com/
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Jesus christ, their home page just lists job openings that could just as well be increases in capacity for upcoming WoW expansions, or why not a Starcraft 2, or an entirely new franchise.
And of all sites that think it'll be out, of course diablo3.com does to drive renewed interest in their site...
Damn this story sucked -- it's pure speculation unless confirmed, which the sensationalist title doesn't seem to be about. Marking as incorrect, and if I could double mark, it would be lame too. - M1stFu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I would be more excited about Starcraft II than another Diablo.
- nato64, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8If Blizzard was smart (and something tells me they are) they'll know not to put all your eggs in one basket. If WoW is all they they do, they've lost casual gamers like me who would LOVE a Diablo 3, but don't want to devote the time into a game like WoW.
- fxdli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I really hope at some point they do release some kind of Diablo-type game that would cater to the working stiffs with less time for a game like WoW. However, with WoW's success it could very well be quite a while before we see anything else from them.
- sonofalink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Now featuring improved graphics system capable of 1024x768 resolution!!!!"
- squison, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Flagged for spam. It's submitted by the site owner, the job postings could be anything from people working on new WoW content, Starcraft 2, or some new franchise. Blizzard always has 2 or 3 projects going at once, no ***** they're working on another project than WoW. They'd be stupid if they didn't.
Btw, starcraft2.com has been registered by Blizzard since 1999. - Mace37, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21. The job listings are for game developers. Blizzard is a video game company, all of their employees for all of their games are going to have the same job descriptions
2. They probably have intentions of making a D3, but it may not be for 10 years. They're going around buying these domains because clowns like this guy are doing the same (I'm sure if it wasn't taken, blizzard would have purchased that site too).
3. "license to print money" is a horrible argument. Just because someone should/can doesn't mean that they will.
4. "unnamed projects" are just that. They could be starcraft ghost, or the blizzard gremlin, blizzard solitaire or whatever. It's probably not Diablo.
5. Blizzard has a history of announcing the games waaaay before they're ready. Diablo 2 was announced to ship in what, 96? 97? So if they haven't announced it yet, it's at least 10 years away.
This article is crap. There's nothing there of any value.- Umaro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+01. The job listings are for game developers. Blizzard is a video game company, all of their employees for all of their games are going to have the same job descriptions
- thing is that a lot of the job postings is for people with experience with Diablo type games
2. They probably have intentions of making a D3, but it may not be for 10 years. They're going around buying these domains because clowns like this guy are doing the same (I'm sure if it wasn't taken, blizzard would have purchased that site too).
- intentions are good =) and where do you get off calling people clowns that make fansites?
3. "license to print money" is a horrible argument. Just because someone should/can doesn't mean that they will.
When your a publicly traded company... things are a bit different, if I invested in them I wouldn't be too happy if they didn't make full use of their franchises.
4. "unnamed projects" are just that. They could be starcraft ghost, or the blizzard gremlin, blizzard solitaire or whatever. It's probably not Diablo.
Starcraft ghost was canceled, 2 projects, good chances its at least one of their major game lines
5. Blizzard has a history of announcing the games waaaay before they're ready. Diablo 2 was announced to ship in what, 96? 97? So if they haven't announced it yet, it's at least 10 years away.
It even said in their presentation that they dont announce it way before hand... besides they may not want to announce it until the game is way into final development. - grat2001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was hoping Blizzard would do a Table Tennis game or Air Hockey!
- Umaro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+01. The job listings are for game developers. Blizzard is a video game company, all of their employees for all of their games are going to have the same job descriptions
- Mr.Chainsaw, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3so is your FACE mace37 ooooo burn
- Mace37, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll digg you up for that one. I'm impressed, do you mind if I use that some time?
- Mr.Chainsaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1oh yeah tottally.
- imnotquitesure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, so was StarCraft: Ghost and that got scrapped, last I heard.
- akkuma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Blizzard is going to release a new game, be it D3 or something else. I am sure a large majority of the WoW players were simply Blizzard fanboys as the MMO market has never been this large before. I can also bet that there are plenty of Blizzard fanboys who cannot afford a monthly fee or simply don't want a game with one.
Why wouldn't Blizzard cater to that group? I am sure plenty of their players wouldn't mind something else to play too. Perhaps the only fear from Blizzard is that a good chunk of players would simply leave WoW for their new game permanently and play it for several years like all their others, thus reducing the cash cow called WoW.- warfang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Plus over time you know eventually WoW will have to end, and when it does Blizzard needs some other games to keep afloat.
- nyxeroster, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Maybe the ass hat who bought the diablo3.com domain should give it up to Blizzard. Attention whores.
- torano, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wouldn't expect D3 anytime soon. But, it's fun to get excited about these things. I knew I should have bought diablo3.com 5 years ago. :D
- jinexile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Get a leg up and register Diable 4
- Stri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sweet, Diablo was the first game I played on the net and I love it. Diablo 2 took an age of my time. Roll on D3
- Leech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wee! I reaaaally love D2... Hope this come true some day!
- drozonivich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3there is nothing here that says D3 "is" coming. This article is nothing more than overzealous hype.
- DeathSun, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Well, let's see. When they made Diablo 2 they spent years and recreated the game engine from the ground up just to have it look a hell of a lot like Diablo 1. For their next trick, they spent years developing Warcraft 3, just to have a 3D Starcraft with a hint of Warcraft 2 put in--and give us nothing new what-so-ever to the strategy game genre.
So forgive me for not getting so excited about Diablo 3. - MalDON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That article didn't point in any direction of diablo 3. All I saw was a bunch of diable 1 and 2, nothing to get excited about people. besides, blizzard sucks anyways. Yes I said it. WoW sucks.
- KyotoWolf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4WoW does suck big time...
but arent all the former diablo employees making other games? - posure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is just a couple sentences stating the obvious. There are no actual REASONS that Diablo 3 is coming out in this article, just stating that Blizzard made alot of money with Diablo...except that they make alot of money with all of their franchises.
- GhengisKhan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope D3 does not turn into another Guild Wars. The beauty of Diablo is the ability to solo the game or play as a team, and I really like that feature. Heck, I still play D2LOD quite a bit.
- G3ARbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What Blizzard needs to do is give me Starcraft something, Ghost, SC2, or World of Starcraft. They’ve been playing with my emotions on this far too long… why couldn’t they just give me Ghost they made me wait 4years and then put it on the back burner, wtf. It’s like they don’t like me or something. (Yes, I know I’m bitching a lot. But, I can’t take not bitching anymore).
- altopablo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0True, not everyone is a fan of WoW (although I can't understand why, the game is DIGITAL CRACK) but Blizzard would be crazy to risk potentially losing a customer representing a potential $180 stream of annual income to sell a $50 title one time. Granted, that $15/month isn't pure profit, but I have to believe their margins are pretty sweet.
For the record (and slightly off topic), Guild Wars has proven to be a good methodone-like WoW substitute that helped me beat my WoW addiction. These days, I'm $15/month richer, and I actually see sunlight every now and then. - BitwiseMcgee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As long as the soundtrack is by Matt Uelmen, I'm so there
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Uelmen - joshPB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am excited about this. I have been a die hard diablo II fan for quite some time and I am starting to get bored with it. I think a better graphic engine and longer game play version is due.
- NBarnes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/09/08
- grat2001, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1
Damn you Blizzard! STARCRAFT 2 FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!- djjohn87, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thank You
- Unicron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I can't believe there's only one comment in this thread the mentioned Hellgate:London. It's made by the Diablo team, so who cares what blizzard makes, it's not like Diablo was insanely addicting because of the back story ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate_london
Looks absolutely amazing - endgame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll ask my buddy Tom who works at Blizzard.....Yea right he NEVER tells me anything in fact he has asked me to stop asking him those questions because he cant say anything.
- TJayMzT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Blizzard told Gamespot that they arent just going to continue with the warcraft fanchise... but they said that we might see old franchises (such as diablo) coming back... with new adventures.... check at gamespot.com
- Kenelm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0here is the link : http://www.gamespot.com/news/6150919.html
- Kenelm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hahaha that's so funny to hear some of you...
First thing : Diablo is Diablo. I've never seen a hack'n'slash better than Diablo. Why ? Because it has this Blizzard's touch which make this game unique. It's so polished, so perfect... And it's also one of the few game which let's you fight against hell, against the most evil beings. Your enemies are undead and demons, not squirrels, bears, or pigeons, like in most (MMO)RPG (WoW ?) just because you're too low level. And you really feel like you've done something big, when you kill a boss for the first time.
Second thing : Forget about reasons based on money. Are you guys financial analysts ? Even these guys can't tell what Blizzard is going to do, because the guys at Blizzard make games, and enjoy it, just as much as they enjoy money.
So ok, there are 6 millions WoW players. And you think these guys will buy Diablo 3, and cancel their subscription to WoW, and so Blizzard is going to lose money ? (it's more accurate to say "to earn less money") Do you think there are only 6 millions gamers on earth ? There are lots of them. And as long as WoW players love MMORPG, a multiplayer RPG is not going to be a problem. Diablo 3 will get new players, WoW will lose some, but will also get some new ones as well. Each product has a rise and a fall, and none is eternal.
Plus, a lot of people cancel their subscriptions to WoW to play other games, and if Blizzard doesn't release a NEW game, he's going to lose clients...
Third thing : There are still people at Blizzard who worked on Diablo 2, or Diablo. Ok, some of them now work at Flagship Studios on Hellgate : London, and some others work at Arenanet on Guild Wars, but there are still some of them at Blizzard ! Diablo is still being updated, and new Diablo wallpapers and artworks are being made, so there is a Diablo team.
Fourth thing : WoW. This game is a MMORPG. Blizzard games all have a good plot and story. But MMORPG have none of these, because they have no endings.
But Diablo is all about these. All Diablo fans want to know what is going to happen NOW that the Worldstone is destroyed. And they all want to know what is going to happen NEXT. So it MUST have a story, and so, it CAN'T be a MMORPG. Diablo is a single player game. - mongstad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Diablo 3 in a WoW kind of world will be great! I'm so exited after I read this webpage..though its very old: http://www.megagames.com/news/html/pc/wowexpansion-diablo3demo.shtml
But I think it sounds awesome, and I also read about the same things about D3 from another guy sounding like he had a inside contacts in Blizz. D3 in WoW environment..I love it already..and play solo..whoho..no need to keep up with others playing 24/7 like in WoW. I just wanna play the game when I have spare time :;D - drozzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can't wait for this to come out...
Since diablo2 I never played any online rpgs... They all are very repetative, bad and only for people with no life. - JonnyLatte, on 02/04/2008, -0/+0There is no cow level
- daveyand, on 06/30/2008, -0/+0Diablo 3 was annouced just last week ... check it out here:
http://www.wowzone.co.uk/2008/06/diablo-3-announce ... - Neozonz, on 07/19/2008, -0/+0There's an awesome diablo 3 wiki here,
http://www.diabloiii.ca
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