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- CapitalOnes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Actually, the article says that only 26% of games for the PSP in the last six month have been good (4 titles), and the Nintendo DS has had 57% (11 titles) that are good. In total in the last 6 months, Nintendo has released 19 titles, and Sony only 15. So not only is Sony producing less games, but more of their games are crap. So there's not a better selection of recent games on the PSP, no matter how much research you do. In fact, there are 4. So I disagree with your reasoning, debain.
- debian_, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14It follows the console set trend. Sony has great third party support, its been a fact since Nintendo alienated most of its third party pals back in the day.
The problem is, with so many studios pledging support to the handheld incarnation of Sony's game hardware, the crappy games proportionally raise in number is well. Many people will be smart enough to inestigate a little beforehand to make sure they get a keeper when buying a new game, but for those who don't, repeated disapointments coming from subpar titles available for the PSP can leave a bitter taste in their mouthes.
Subsequently, with Nintendo forced to rely more on inhouse titles to help keep their consoles and handhelds afloat, frequently they are able to release stellar titles that come with the benefit of being produced by the same company who knows the ins an outs of the hardware so well, after all, they make it.
End result? Better title selection choice with PSP at the expense of having to really do your homework before hand to make sure you get your moneys worth. With Nintendo, you have a reduced number of third party delivered titles, however you may gain back in the wide assortment of Nintendo produced games which have proven numerous times to be a sure fire bet when looking for not only a nice game to look at, but great gameplay and fun fun fun. - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The PSP just tries to do too much. I bought one but it seriously disappointed me.
1) It tries to be a game system, but the DS has better games, plus the Sony games are so damn expensive. It is also argueable that the DS has a better control system.
2) It tries to be a movie player, but the UMDs only work in that little PSP, cost the same as full-fledged DVDs, and you are better off just using an iPod video or a portable DVD player (depending on what you need).
3) It tries to be a music player, but it is too damn big to carry in your pocket, and memory is just way too expensive.
4) It tries to do neat little things like be a web browser, but it has trouble loading many webpages without running out of memory and it simply isn't that enjoyable to use.
Just about all it is good for is hacking it and using it for emulators, but that isn't its intended goal and that isn't making Sony any money. - trex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3don't really agree with debian
I think the problem is simple: As a game developer, do I spend my porting PS2 games for PSP or do I concentrate on developing games for next-gen consoles?
Although you could try to apply the same argument to Nintendo, I think Nintendo is relying a lot on their in-house devs, like debian says. Developers may also be keen to dev for the DS since it's a more innovative device. Developers are driven by creativity, ya know.
But yeah as a gaming device the PSP is in a sad state, which is awful since that's supposed to be it's core strength. If movies are the new core strength, Apple's iPod will probably outsell it due to better universal appeal.
The PSP continues to prove that all-in-one devices are a "jack-of-all-trades, master-in-none". - KYDS3K, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Pommels? are they in a gymnastic competition?
PUMMELS. - hyperpasta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The thing about Nintendo these days is that you can't compare them to any other system manufacturer. While SONY and MS battle with specs and depth and all that, Nintendo makes stuff for the casual gamer now. Starting with the DS and moving on to the Revolution. Rather than improve specs, Nintendo makes crazy novelty games that are very friendly to people who play games maybe once a week. If it's marketed well wnough, it could be a hit.
- TheGooseyOne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i dont need an article to tell me this...its obvious
every PSP owner I know doesn't use it to play PSP games because they suck. They either use it as a multimedia device, or for some of its best hacks, like a portable SNES emulator.
Plus, the top-notch quality of DS games that have already came out (Nintendogs, Advance Wars, Trauma Center, Phoenix Wright, Mario Kart, Tony Hawk, Meteos, WarioWare, Sonic Rush, I could go on) would be hard for any console/handheld to beat, let alone one that has gotten basically 3 good titles. - wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just pulled the trigger on a DS today, having been tortured between the DS and the PSP. The PSP had a few good titles (W1peout Pure), and a ton of potential. But that is all it was, potential. The UMD format (as pointed out) is a joke. If I like a movie and I'm going to pay $20 for it, I am not going to get it for a tiny screen. If there was some easy way to rip my own DVD and get it on the PSP, I'd consider it.
However, between the DMCA, Sony pushing the UMD format and trying to lock down the PSP firmware, and the propriatary Memory Stick format, I just couldn't deal. The rootkit fiasco was the final straw.
Maybe in a year Sony will realize their mistake and try and fix things. But don't bet on it. - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's the games, stupid!
Which explains why the DS' stellar list of titles this year has it owning the PSP. Kirby, Trauma Center, Advance Wars, Mariokart, Meteos, Nintendogs, Castlevania, Viewtiful Joe... the games people want to play are on the DS. That simple.
PSP is the new N-gage. - merdeisel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2psp sucks... the only reason why people defend it is because they dont want to feel dumb for paying that much for a peice of ***** that has no fun games.
- commongiga, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"see the only reason the nintendo is beating the psp is because it offers one thing... gaming for kids.... the psp is multy media device that offers almost everything a pc could except for some detailed things but anyway yah the psp is way better then the ds and ppl just cant afford it so they chose crap over luxury"
1)Where does this article mention anything about kids. It's about there being quantifiably more QUALITY games for the DS than there are for the PSP.
2)You are stupid and don't know how to spell the word "muli" (multy media? u r teh st00pid)
3)In what universe do you live that you think the PSP can do almost anything a PC can do? It can play videos if you have the right conversion software, and it holds a minimal amount a music. You have to shell out some serious cash if you want a big memory stick to hold a respectable amount of music.
4) "psp is way better then the ds and ppl just cant afford it so they chose crap over luxury" -- I almost don't know where to start on this one. Better is a subjective term (look this word up in the dictionary, since i'm sure since you can't spell multi you've never heard the word subjective). You have given no reasons to back up your claim the PSP is better. The DS is about doing one thing well, while the PSP is about doing many things poorly. With a weak game lineup, shoddy hardware (many dead pixels, sticky buttons), and a price tag that is asking too much for what it does, I can't believe I waited as long as I did to sell mine.
Yes, I could afford the "luxury" and prefered the system that is for gamers. Not kids, gamers. Think before you speak next time. How you say...PwN3D!!111!ONE!!! - HappyJack13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually, jayf, if you read the article, it's not an aurgement between quality and quantity. Over the life the DS, it has 39 titles, compared to the PSP's 41. Not that big a difference.
But in the last six months, only 26% of the games on the PSP have been rated - by dozens of reviewers - as better than 79%, while over half of Nintendo's titles are B or better.
Plus in the last six months, the PSP has had 15 titles, and the DS has had 19.
So it's not really quantity vs. quality... it's more quantity AND quality vs.... well.... what? - ReyBrujo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It is possible that GTA:LCS reaches the 2m mark as Nintendogs did recently. But it is just one game. And a console can't survive with a single game. It is much better to have 10 games selling each 100,000 units than 1 game selling 1m. In the former case, at least you have 10 games to choose from.
Nintendo is a pure game developer. Sony isn't. Nintendo creates the consoles thinking in the games. Sony doesn't. Nintendo has experience Sony will need to gather in the portable market. See Nokia, how their N-Gage didn't work. In maybe 5 years, Sony may be able to give the portable market something that fares better. But battling in too many fronts with too many companies (Samsung, Microsoft, Nintendo, etc), they will soon need to choose a front to dismiss. And I think the simpler one is the portable market. - steve_s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@barnden.beer I had a psp and a ds too, and i sold my psp. It is worthless, exatly what trex said, It does alot but nothing good(understatement). And why haesnt anyone brought The rootkit into this yet?! please do!
- ErinIsADrunk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I never knew that the PSP had so many whiny fanboys
- SHudson311, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DS is the way to go, just finished getting my ass kicked by a bunch of people in mario kart online!
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"do your homework before hand to make sure you get your moneys worth. With Nintendo, you have a reduced number of third party delivered titles, however you may gain back in the wide assortment of Nintendo produced games which have proven numerous times to be a sure fire bet"
Umm... DS has more 3rd-party support than the PSP. - NidStyles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm, playing redone PS2 games on a 250 usd handheld with shoddy battery life, or fun new games with all of the old classics I still own from the GBA, and even the new versions on the DS for only 99 usd.
Gee, I already own a PS@ and the games just didn't apeal after teh first time around. I love games that are fun, and can be played with new people, like Mario Kart DS.
That's basically what sells the DS, rather than the PSP. - admirabumblebee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I own both. Buy my psp on ebay ;) PSP = frustration, intense concentration, DS = laughter, shut-and-go. Mario kart, polarium, advance wars, kirby, castlevania. sonic rush.. mmm yeah. Old school stuff rocks, the stuff that makes you think about what's in the game, not about the game itself.
- muleking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1psp is flash over substance, and a mediocre jack of all traits media device
ds would suck, but it has the good fortune of some real quality titles. - TechReticle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The PSP is a good idea.....in theory
UMD's are gonna be DOA at the end of the PSP's life cycle. Woe is the poor bastard with a stack of UMDs and a broken PSP 3 years from now lol.
Unfortunately like everyone says the PSP has no damn games. And the few good games they do have don't have an online component!
WTF Sony?!? How the hell am I supposed to get all the collectible cars in Burnout:Legends when I can't take the damn thing ONLINE?!? I never see anyone with the damn game, and I live in NYC.
I was soooooooo on the PSP's jock when it first came out, but the DS owns me. Online Mario Kart DS may just break my World of Warcraft addiction. - SteveCUBE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Good, the DS is a much better system.
- braden.beer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had both, but sold my PSP and made some money off it before it loses its value.
Seriously. You can get a DS and 2 or 3 games for the price of the PSP system alone. Plus, to do anything worthwhile on the PSP you're going to be shelling out another $90-100 on a 1gb Memory Stick Duo.
Fun. Now I can watch content on a crappy game machine for $350 plus the cost of my games. Yippee! - doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so that makes it what? 10 up and 10 down for competitors against Nintendo handhelds?
- TheGooseyOne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"meh I cant wait till Mario bros.343524522324 comes out!!
Nintendo cant even think of new games. Thats SAD." -gamerzworld
Yeah, Nintendo sure can't think of new games, what's wrong with them. I mean, in the past couple month they've only came out with Nintendodogs, Animal Crossing, Trace Memory, Metroid Prime Hunters, Batallion Wars (GC), and WarioWare. So unoriginal compared to the 267th Madden game, 11th GTA game and 23rd Final Fantasy game. - Brak710101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have both the DS and PSP.
The PSP cost me $700 when finnished.
The DS cost me around $250.
I don't even like to compare them, they really are two way diffrent things. Its liek comparing a microwave with a oven. Both cook, but one is faster and cheaper and one can do more. - pbjorge12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Have you played Tiger Woods on the DS vs. the PSP??? "
I have...And it much more fun using the touch screen to swing and play than using a crappy little button...
Unless you are talking about the graphics...which are nicer...But I usually like to play the game rather than stare at it... - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have both, I hardly ever play the PSP, it's mostly a bunch of console-esque games or ports. PSP needs non-port games that stand on their own, and I think the only game to come close to that was Lumines, but Meteos was better.
Another noticable difference in quality is that when a DS game is a port, it's often better then the original. Mario Kart DS is definitely more fun then the gamecube kart. The castlevania is the best since the PS1 Symphony of the Night.
Why oh why must they make so many ports on the PSP? They seem more interesting in making it a movie cash cow then making quality original games for it.
I havn't checked out GTA:LS yet though, even as a port, it might be the killer app. ( Does it auto upgrade the bios ? ) - Mfrosty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah I just sold my PSP. I would say that 95 percent of the games completely suck. UMD movies, give me a break. Only a moron pays more for a movie on a proprietary format that doesn't give you any of the special features whatsoever. The PSP is an amazing system that has yet to be properly taken advantage of.
- chrbeam101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the ds follows nintendows usual gaming maching and games. it is cheaper then the competition and the games are more cartony then graphical. not that the gc didnt have acouple good action games of its own.
the psp is the same. it has some cartony games but also has its own good selection of sports and action title that play well on it. it is also pretty damn good graphically. plus like comparing the ps2 to the gc, the psp has a multimedia capability as the ps2 had a dvd player and the gc didnt. - alterion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0 oh look at all the fanboys .. who gives a frak.. as a games machine the ds is cleary better if you don;t damit this then you are stuck up. But the psp does other things two.. of course at least mario borthers 343524522324 will have gameplay innovations.. be fun to play and worth buying .. unlike FF 14 or GTA 14 :(
- KYDS3K, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ok . . . so i was wrong about "pommel" . . . but i'm damn sure it's not "Omishman"! "Amishman" is what you mean!
- MelFetWart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I find it interesting that people keep referring to the numbers from GameRankings.com as subjective; they are, but they're also accurate. Just like polls can predict who is going to win the elections 24 hours before the count is done, these numbers are accurate representations (after 100 votes, something like 90 or 95% accurate) of two things: 1.) What reviewers are saying about games, and 2.) What GameRankings.com's readers are saying about the games.
So no matter what anecdotal experience we present here - subjective - the fact is, 95% of gamers, when asked, will say that the PSP has released 4 B or better titles in the last six months compared to the DS's 11. Therefore, to say that the average gamer would have more games to play on the Nintendo DS is about as subjective as telling people who won the presidency the day after voting.
That's fairly objective. As close as it can get for measure user opinion, at least. - doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@paulgriffin
their loss, my gain. I got a ds in prefect condition for $99 back when they were $150 - Dota, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0vincenzo please read the article before you comment. it has nothing to do with hardware sales..
- distrbnce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Let me say that I think both the DS and PSP rock for what they are, but I think the headline to the digg and to the article is very misleading.
It says "DS Pommels PSP by 3-to-1 in 2005."
The first inclination is to assume it's talking about sales. So you get to the article, no it's not about that. Instead the article is mentioning something about Quality over Quantity... Then it starts talking about the experience of the game.
The entire second page is about how it's about the games. So maybe DS has better rated games 3 to 1 over PSP...
Finally on the third page, you learn that in terms of quality games (80%+ based on the opinion of one site I've never heard of) DS has 13 and PSP has 11.
So PSP has been out for less time and has almost the same amount of quality titles is what I gather from the article, and logically, the better purchase.
Buy both people. - ChaosElement, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The DS has Castlevania - Dawn of Sorrow. The PSP currently has nothing (to my knowledge) that's worth playing. They keep releasing movies for the system instead of Games. How stupid.
- HappyJack13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm not sure that Sony can afford to lose money by dropping the price of the PSP. I mean, they're not exactly the healthiest company in the world at the moment.
But I agree... if they did drop the price, the PSP would fly off shelves... fly like a PSP raised in Smallville ... - chrbeam101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the reason nintendo ds out sold the psp is the price point. if the psps were $150 instead of $250, the psp would have owned the market. but the choice of sony to make a handheld with great graphics and capabilities braught the price up. looking at the ds, its like a futuristic gameboy with 2 screens. besides socom, tonyhawk, gta lcs, nfs, maden and mvp baseball are all great titles for the psp. ask anyone with a psp if they dont like it. i'll bet not many people would say that.
- nugget, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I do not see the hype about the PSP's video and audio capablities. First off I have to have the sony memory stick/duo/pro thingy. I cant take my CF card from my Camera, or digital video camera and pop it in and view it on there right away can I? PSP also uses the UMD which will be left hanging when they creat a PSP2, or just ditch the Handheld market.
And as far as gameplay goes, I have played both, and I do not see why everyone says the PSP has better games. But this is just my .02 cents... So on the wild wild web no one cares about it. - BassJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I haven't actually played the DS (thats a lie, i tried to play it at a local Toys R Us but the screen (or the protector)was scrathed to hell)
For me the DS and PSP are aimed at different markets, the fact that the DS has more "good" games according to some review sites is irrelevant for me. I have to be very selective with the games I buy as I don't have loads of money to splash on games and I also have the luxuary of working for retailer that stocks PSP games so I can either read reviews of the games or actually try them out in store the day they are released!
The PSP's strenght I believe lies in it's versititilty, granted it might not be the most portable MP3 player, but the ability to play back movies is great (and I'm not talking about the overpriced UMD ones) with a 1Gb MS u can store either 1 movie or a couple hour long tv shows to watch when you want, and I for one would rather have those abilities over inferior graphics and some touch screen gimmick....
I'm sorry if I sound like a whiny fanboy but there are about 6 other people where I work with PSP's and I can guarantee NONE of them considered a DS because we are all mature gamers who can appreciate the system for what it is and what it could become - fyrfyter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Considering Sony entered a market, where Nintendo had a monopoly on the portable gaming system, I would be happy as hell with 3 to 1 in six months. The PSP hasn't even been out for a year, and already has more games than the DS as well as ability to play other content. While some of the games might not be as good, they need to give the system ample time to gain some momentum. In all reality, Nintendo has been making portable games and gaming systems for how long? At least 16 years, considering I got my first GameBoy when I was 10. 3-1 is a great ratio when you compare 16 years of portable experience to 1.
- Jaxorcist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nintendo>Sony
Deal with it, k? - Mizark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I thought this had to do with sales, but its just some lame subjective comparison of games.
Handheld systems are not sport teams take off the jersey's - link470, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nintendo Rules.
- aaarg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0what do you expect? sony spent all their money on rootkits and spying on their customers/criminals (synonymous to them apparently)
- distrbnce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0LocationFree TV has me most excited about PSP
- ctlaltl33t, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/images/hehe/*****/arguing_over_internet.jpg
- hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the same thing that happened to the gamecube is happening to the psp, Sony just isnt cranking out enough games. all you psp fanboys, admit it. the game variety for the psp sucks ASS. there is like a total of four games that dont suck. yea maybe some of nintendo's games are a little.......gay..... but at least theyre producing games. the psp is an orphan in the gaming industry......it needs more attention.
- serpentor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I take the train/subway everyday in NYC. I have NEVER once seen someone playing a DS. I see people with the PSP -all the time- and have played some adhoc wifi Virtual Tennis and it was a blast. DS is outselling b/c of its low price and the fact that it's a kids toy. The PSP at $250 is a mature toy and will never outsell the DS. I love mine to death tho, hack the firmware and get a 2GB memory stick and this is gaming/video gift from god. I may still pick up a DS to play Mario Kart and a bunch of GBA games I never played. I really hope they redesign the DS though because to me it looks very ugly..
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