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- ElBeh, on 06/27/2008, -8/+311Photoshop CS3's Piracy to Buying ratio is probably 1:0
- artfiend77, on 06/28/2008, -15/+197An estimated 325,000 people thought that this "CEO" is a whiny little bitch and 75% of people bough the game.
Hey look everybody! I can pull numbers out my ass too! - Nekura20x6, on 06/27/2008, -9/+149What is never mentioned is this: "How many of those people would have bought a copy of the game if pirated copies weren't available?" I rent games and there are many that I only play because I'm not paying for them. If I had to shell out $60 for each and every game, I'd pass on all but the top tier games.
- PATSCRU, on 06/28/2008, -12/+151Piracy in PC gaming is a scapegoat, not an excuse...PC sales are incredibly strong right now, you just need to make a game people will want to buy. Case in point: Sins of A Solar Empire. An indie game from a small developer with NO DRM stayed on the top 10 NPD PC sales charts for months.
- okaar, on 06/27/2008, -43/+156damn people!!!
lets make it 100:1
I know we can... - Aadain, on 06/28/2008, -11/+112Maybe if the pirated game copies didn't have all the annoying anti-copying schemes stripped out of them, making it a better experience than the retail copy, piracy would drop a bit. Every time you make the retail copy more annoying to use than a pirated copy, you inspire hundreds to download the game instead of paying for it.
- quomen, on 06/28/2008, -1/+74Undefined
- trogdor282, on 06/28/2008, -1/+70I would buy a Porsche if it was $50. As it is I have to pirate them :(
- dilbert, on 06/28/2008, -5/+74Steam. And not only in the shape of hot air.
- MindStalker, on 06/28/2008, -4/+72Would they be making so many updates and versions if no one bought it? One of Photoshops biggest benefits is the fact that its pirated so often. People pirate it, then they learn it, companies are then forced to buy it for their graphic artist because thats what they know best. Do you ever hear the makers of photoshop complain about rampant piracy? Business tools love it when they get heavily pirated.
- charlesray, on 06/28/2008, -8/+76"Yerli added that rampant piracy may lead to 'less and less games appearing on the PC, or less and less games pushing the boundaries of PC gaming.'"
I don't want games pushing boundaries. I want games that fit snuggly within the boundaries so that I don't spend $300 on a video card and still get lag. - Koush, on 06/28/2008, -5/+71Sure it is, 20 million+ people played Crysis..that's how it is.
/Sarcasm. - cknyan, on 06/28/2008, -5/+64Good riddance to this particular "pushing the limit" PC game designer. If Crysis had a better story and game-play then make-any-system-cry graphic & physics, I would fully support his bitch-fest. Optimize your game and make it playable for a wider range of PC, then people will buy your creation.
When Orange Box came out, it was playable even on the low end. Now I have two copies of HL2 and every episode, all paid for, and I can actually play them on nearly any system built within the last 4 years. - Nidy1, on 06/28/2008, -5/+59Nonsense, we can take what we want for free from Game Designers, Artists, and Movie Makers because they should be doing it because they love it, not for money!
/sarc - houndeyex, on 06/28/2008, -0/+53Nope. Someone rips it off internally and away we go!
- manitoba98xp, on 06/28/2008, -1/+47Someone had to buy it, right? If only to distribute it.
- inactive, on 06/28/2008, -8/+54They wont get money and we wont get good games
- solid12345, on 06/28/2008, -1/+41Adobe doesn't generally care about individual users but they will go after a company with swift vengeance if caught using pirated software.
- inactive, on 06/28/2008, -5/+44Considering only an IDIOT would buy Crysis without seeing how it runs on their system, it's not surprising. And considering how hard it IS to run Crysis, I'm not surprised most of these people elected not to purchase it.
Also: It's not a good game. At all really. - xkingADROCKx, on 06/28/2008, -19/+53Crysis wasn't actually that good.
- EvilFerret, on 06/28/2008, -5/+39That's because it's so ***** expensive. I would be happy to pay for Photoshop if it was sold for $50.
- WhereAmI, on 06/28/2008, -3/+36"Why don't PC game companies just keep a master server for their customers' save games and require them to login/authenticate before playing?"
Because, and I'm not speaking for everyone here, but that would piss me off. - Emachine, on 06/28/2008, -17/+50The way I see it, after you spend $300+ on a graphics card, it's kind of hard to convince yourself to pay for the games.
- ultraJesus, on 06/28/2008, -7/+40Crysis had a demo if I recall correctly.
- LittleDas, on 06/28/2008, -11/+44If PC sales are incredibly strong right now, do you think developers are leaving for consoles because they hate making money?
- zinnternet, on 06/28/2008, -4/+36I like how he just pulled those numbers out of his ass. He's obviously in denial about that fact that his game is too poorly-coded to run well on even the fastest PCs and no fun even if it did. But no, selling "only" over a million copies is all to blame on piracy. gg Crytek.
- mrbeagle, on 06/28/2008, -6/+37It sounds like Yerli pulled that statistic right out of his ass. Either that or I missed the part where Crytek ran a global cross-section survey and counted all the pirates.
Crysis didn't sell because it was boring as *****. - dzw120, on 06/28/2008, -2/+32Exactly. That was even with SoaSE being the #1 seeded game on The Pirate Bay for a couple weeks.
- yohnstoppable, on 06/28/2008, -1/+29PC sales are incredibly strong for companies that sell good games. Getting overshadowed by all time great fps's released at the same time sure as hell hurts sells as well. Crytek and Epic are just looking for scapegoats, because their games didn't perform as expected.
I just don't see why they can ignore these other factors. I mean, if we seperate Orange Box out by game, you have 6 first person shooters with a 90+ metacritic score being released within 84 days of each other. 6 of the most critically acclaimed first person shooters of all time released in a 3 month period. Think the ones released at the end of the period will do poorly? No *****. Crysis was the last of those (and by far the lowester rated by actual gamers), and UT3, which WASN'T as highly rated, was released a week after Crysis. People already had better games to play, and didn't give a *****.
And when you make consumers believe they can't even run your game, they won't ***** buy it. Also, UT3 was a step backwards from UT3 (game modes taken out, movement system ***** with, etc).
All this is irrelevant, though, because the topic at hand is this stupid 20 to 1 ratio. If this idiot thinks 20 million people played crysis, then he needs to stop eating paint. - xxMarka, on 06/28/2008, -1/+28crack the free trial lol
- kayfouroh, on 06/28/2008, -3/+29Start allowing me to return games that are ***** and I will start buying games.
I do not want to get stuck with a 60$ game that I got bored with in 10 minutes. - twtmc, on 06/28/2008, -4/+30If they knew how to do it right, it wouldn't be a problem. What do you think the piracy ratio on CounterStrike: Source is? Or Team Fortress 2? I am gunna be not very high.
- twiztidsinz, on 06/28/2008, -0/+24Pushing the boundaries is fine...
Moving them a football field length is not.
When you don't push boundaries and try to make your programs run on 100% of the machines out there you sacrifice usability in favor of availability and end up with *****. - Shuk, on 06/28/2008, -4/+28One reason I pirate a lot of games is because they aren't polished. I'll admit: I pirated Crysis, but when I played it, it was plagued with bugs, sound stutters, graphical hitches, and poor performance that wasn't my 8800GT and 2 gigs of RAM's fault. The game also crashed and froze a number of times on me. I would not have paid money for this game, but I played it anyway because, what the heck, its free.
On the other hand, I bought the Orange Box, because I know that each game is polished and the game experience is smooth for each game. Also, the box was a good deal. For these reasons, I always buy Blizzard games, because I know I'll get my money's worth. There's a reason that Valve and Blizzard are raking in the cash, and it's not because they have the biggest copy protection systems on their games. - digitalpencil, on 06/28/2008, -4/+26it's alright, out of the 20 copies, only 1 person was capable of loading Crysis, the rest just deleted the torrent.
- lmbb20, on 06/28/2008, -7/+29I think that games are too costly. Granted, they do require lots of man hours by skilled individuals but charging $50-$60 a game is outrageous. I just started my first job and don't have a lot of money so what I do is wait 3 months after a game is released and buy it used off eBay for 50% off.
- Disease, on 06/28/2008, -0/+22You could, but if you want to buy a game Steam works rather well for most games.
- sylvok, on 06/28/2008, -1/+23You can pirate Steam games, its just an extra step. Mind you a hard step.
- starblazer13, on 06/28/2008, -3/+25You think Blizzard is worried about Diablo 3 being pirated?
Ya, I don't think so either. Typical steam from companies that don't get it. - Pake, on 06/28/2008, -0/+22Those are also multiplayer games and since they require internet access to play, it's nearly impossible to pirate them. Crysis, being a singleplayer game is a lot harder to limit piracy and if they tried to force a player to login to verify ownership of a game every time they want to play the singleplayer campaign, you can only imagine the outrage. Heck, just look at the outrage that happened with Bioshock limiting the number of installs and the original outrage over Steam (back when Steam was just out of beta) not allowing singleplayer without logging in. I believe it also had some outrage when HL2 was released concerning the same issues.
- crownedgriffin, on 06/28/2008, -3/+24Businesses foot the bill for photoshop. Photoshop is an example of piracy working for a software company. Do you think Photoshop would be an industry standard if all those people hadn't learned how to use it so well by stealing it off the internet?
- cheappop, on 06/28/2008, -0/+19Half-Life 2: Episode 2
- StuartGibson, on 06/14/2009, -1/+19I never bury Lazytown.
- twiztidsinz, on 06/28/2008, -2/+20Cuz I dont want to have to log-in to my games.
Cuz I dont want to have it call-home every day/week.
Cuz I dont want to be treated like a criminal for something I bought. - ecrunner, on 06/27/2008, -4/+22Those gamers....
- medfreak, on 06/28/2008, -3/+20Have you ever played a strategy game before?
- inactive, on 06/28/2008, -9/+26Sure, like you'll only steal the bad ones?
- KirbyMeister, on 06/28/2008, -1/+17My friend's graphics card CAME with Crysis.
- sylvok, on 06/28/2008, -1/+17People are not leaving the PC gaming world, once you played one you don't go back.
Xbox, PS3, and Wii are bringing in more gamers, but the PC isn't growing as fast (not as newbie friendly)
Besides we at digg know once something goes mainstream like consoles are, the communities start being asshats (Xbox live anyone) - inactive, on 06/28/2008, -7/+22Lame excuse. Game developers aren't making any money for trhe work they did when you buy a graphics card.
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