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electricsistahood.com — It's been a nightmare year for Sony, but things are just going to get worse. Think you can save Sony by buying more PlayStation 3's this winter? Think again. Every PS3 you buy will drive Sony further toward selling off the company. And who's lining up to buy? Your pals at Microsoft, of course.
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- lesskiller, on 10/12/2007, -27/+11The whole thing is almost too complicated and crazy to believe, but great theory. Don't forget the settlements on the rumble pak controllers they had to deal with.
Makes me want to pay more attention to the console battle instead of just waiting for Halo 3 to come out.- slimthps, on 10/12/2007, -10/+60The author has no idea what he is talking about. They don't lose money for every PS3 they sell, they just lose more money on every PS3 they make. That's what the PS2 did, that's what the Xbox did, and that's what the Xbox360 did.
Also the price of manufacting the PS3 will decline drastically over the next few years. BRANCHING OUT and using new, untested technology will make any product expensive. - cal01, on 10/12/2007, -8/+35The author has no sense of economics. Sony does not lose money on every console. Rather, they -do not recoup- what they have spent. That's a very big difference.
For example, it's not that they instantly lose $200 every time they sell a PS3. Rather, they have already spent X billions in manufacturing, then failed to make a profit with their gross income.
It's a loss that stemmed from investment and pre-sales, not the other way around.
edit: To clarify more, Sony is hurt more if people -don't- buy their consoles, because they cannot make back their initial costs. - krische, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17You guys are correct. They don't "lose" money by selling a ps3, they just don't make back all of the manufacturing costs. But they make back the difference by charging so much controllers/accessories. I also belive that game developers have to pay a percentange Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo for creating games for their systems.
- ReCkLeSsX, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18We don't need these silly rumor/conspiracy stories on Digg.
The author simply has no idea what he's talking about. - kirashira, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5This will never happen.
- electrosoccertu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Ha. Can you say "anti-competitve"? Even though the courts didn't break MS up before, they would never allow them to buy Sony.
- sakuraz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I think this is a great theory only to Microsoft fanboys...for obvious reasons.
To other LOGICAL people, this was a waste of time, energy, and the chance to read a better article.
It's practically saying "We know PS3 is so great, but we already bought 360. Let's dream of a future where our mistakes are not mistakes anymore!!!" - Pharaoh777, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Meanwhile, back on Earth - I'll pick up an HDMI cable for $10.
- ElectricGrandpa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"But they make back the difference by charging so much controllers/accessories. I also belive that game developers have to pay a percentange Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo for creating games for their systems."
Definitely they have to pay a huge chunk to the console manufacturer... No idea how much, but that's how they make a lot of their money back(and because all three console companies also publish some of their own games) - cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2 @slimthps - As much as 60% of Sony's operating profits have come from PS in past years. Before all the PS3 setbacks the game unit posted an almost billion dollar loss for this fiscal year pushing down Sony's total operating profit by almost 50%. Any Wall Street guy knows what this means if it keeps up. I can see it now, Sony a Microsoft owned Company....
- slimthps, on 10/12/2007, -10/+60The author has no idea what he is talking about. They don't lose money for every PS3 they sell, they just lose more money on every PS3 they make. That's what the PS2 did, that's what the Xbox did, and that's what the Xbox360 did.
- P5ycHo, on 10/12/2007, -37/+5What a load of crap.
The fact that the PR horribly went wrong & that Ken Kutaragi isn't the greatest presenter of all times doesn't mean the SONY is going down-hill. Sony != SCEE | SCEA. The machine will sell itself in 2k7 when everyone realizes it actually worth it's money. Games will start to tap into the full capacity of the cell and leave every other console in it's dust.
100 ~ 125 bucks for a HDMI Cable? Really? Shop around ! Use the frickin Internet! I can get one for under 15 bucks.
Now quit posting articles from blogs. Please....- GarethSaxby, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16If your post doesn't set off the fanboy alarm bells, I don't know what does... Well, your profile does too, in all honesty. You're talking about something you don't know, purely because you're a fan. The specification of the RSX isn't that fantastic, and it'll probably struggle to pull out 1080p on most games. Developers aren't going to offload graphical calculations onto the Cell either, so it ultimatly doesn't make that much of a difference. There have been numourous developers speaking of how the PS3 and 360 are evenly matched, and graphically I'd have to say, there probably isn't going to be $100 of difference there (360 premium vs PS3 20GB). I can see slightly better graphics, but lest we forget, last generation the Playstation 2 had the least power and came out on top. I don't see why that having more power means it will come out ontop this time, unless you believe the Xbox should have suceeded.
Still, I will agree, the article reeks of someone stabbing around for something to report on. For starters, next year? Heck, I don't see anything like that happening. Also, Sony is still going to make money with the PS3. It's not going to fail, and I can even see myself buying one once the price drops a bit here in the UK. Sure, Sony has screwed up pretty badly at too many points to count, especially compared to Nintendo and Microsoft, but they're not going to sell the brand... I can't see them selling the brand ever, if I'm honest. I also agree with your statement about the HDMI cables, taking the price of Monster cables and other "Premium" connectivity cables that do next to nothing for a digital communication standard is a very bad move. - P5ycHo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I see at least you can keep your head cool. Lets just wait & see what happens.
But these types of stories are really getting old now. - cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Hard to imagine that MS as a co. that moves fast. In this case MS moves much faster than Sony to market and that is what Sony needs, they are soooo slow with only fans to defend them. The idea of MS/Sony is credible...
- haelios, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If Sony uses a proprietary HDMI connector on the PS3 end (quite likely), then your $10 Walmart cable won't work.
- GarethSaxby, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16If your post doesn't set off the fanboy alarm bells, I don't know what does... Well, your profile does too, in all honesty. You're talking about something you don't know, purely because you're a fan. The specification of the RSX isn't that fantastic, and it'll probably struggle to pull out 1080p on most games. Developers aren't going to offload graphical calculations onto the Cell either, so it ultimatly doesn't make that much of a difference. There have been numourous developers speaking of how the PS3 and 360 are evenly matched, and graphically I'd have to say, there probably isn't going to be $100 of difference there (360 premium vs PS3 20GB). I can see slightly better graphics, but lest we forget, last generation the Playstation 2 had the least power and came out on top. I don't see why that having more power means it will come out ontop this time, unless you believe the Xbox should have suceeded.
- CMGNEWS, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13 Ahhhhhhh no. Sony will not lead this generation unless we are all living in an Internet bubble and the rest of the planet hails the arrival of the PS3 as the next big step cause they are blissfully unaware of all of Son'y problems (still very likely I might add).
But sinking the company? No.
The article is kind of exagerating isn't it.- icantdrawanime, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7If you want to be heard, say something so obviously overstated that no man in his right mind would fail to say youre wrong.
- cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Before all the PS3 setbacks the game unit posted an almost billion dollar loss for this fiscal year pushing down Sony's total operating profit by almost 50%. Sony is no longer the heart of entertainment in the living room...
- skaface69, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I personally thought that the article was clearly stated and while much was spectulatory, it was a good read. I agree somewhat with the author, i don't believe that that Sony will be selling off PlayStation anytime soon. If the Sony continues to screw up, people are going to start selling off their stocks. Now this has nothing to do with PlayStation v.wii v. 360, it has to do with investors making money. They are not going to stick with a sinking ship. If investors start to get more nervous about Sony's future, as the launch day approaches, and start selling off their Sony stock, this situation could possibly play out. If you look at the stock over the last 6 months to a year, the stock has been in a decline. Its going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.
- NYC10004, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5The author has a very accurate take, for a shot in the dark. Take it from somebody who actually works on Wall Street. PS3 aspirations aside - SONY really is dying kids. Samsung alone has savaged the company's expected earnings for two years straight, cutting deeply into the frontier dominance of HD and peripheral interfaces, such as DVD, that SONY should have enjoyed. From all indications SONY is poorly managed in most divisions, which is the telltale death nell of any financial giant.
- bertsisterwanda, on 10/12/2007, -17/+9Loved this story,
lets hope sony sinks!!
Most of their products are average but cost premium prices!- sambtravis, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3But... But they have da Blu-rai and Ridge RAAACCEEERRRRR
- djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13What a bunch of pedantic *****. The author takes the worst possible numbers in every situation, and flat out makes up facts when they suit his meaning. If you're paying $125 for an HDMI cable, then you've probably paid $100 for Monster (component - not HDMI) cables to hook your 360 up to your TV and surround sound system as well. The comparison is void.
Sony's not going to go broke. They will carry the Japanese market easily (especially with the price drop), and their exclusives - onces they hit - will handily outsell any Microsoft counterparts. They will lose marketshare, that's for certain, but when the dust settles in the next 24 months, they will still have a majority of the worlwide gaming market.- sambtravis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2See what i find to be some pedantic ***** is your argument. With Sony only selling a limited amount of PS3's in japan, compared to Nintendo, who I will bet you will hold the market share in japan in six months, is selling quite a bit more and actually making money. And seeing as how the nintendo is cheaper and probably a funner system. it will hold the worldwide gaming market. And it might sound it but No i'm not a nintendo fanboy. I just think they have a better system this generation than sony.
And who's to say that this person who is buying all these cords even owns a 360? Only a rich bastard or a fanboy would pay 600+ for a console plus all the other crap that you need to play it. If i could buy a 600+ plus system i would surely buy the "best" wires I could get - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4@ sambtravis
I have nothing else to say except that you have no idea that Wii will be "funner." From what I've seen, Warhawk and Resistance look like more fun that any Wii game, which I could play for a few minutes but all of them seem like i'd get pretty sick of them after not too long.
Oh, and also, PS3 is cheaper than 360 (if you actually think about it). - sambtravis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I would like you to explain how the PS3 is cheaper when you throw in all of Sony's nice little microtranactions. I mean I know i want to buy a crippled game then have to pay even more for the content in it. But Warhawk looked like a load of crap to me. And how can the Wii not be fun with great games that actually use nextgen controls like Wii Sports and Red Steel instead of some jumpy horrible gyro setup thrown in at the last minute?
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3well, i kno ur a fanboy, I want all 3 systems, but the ps3 is cheaper than the 360 because the vast majority of 360 owners will buy Live. After 2 years that costs $100. That evens the price right there. Not to mention with ps3, you have a blu-ray drive and tilt-sensitivity.
Fine by me if you want to play Wii sports (even though i think it sucks) but the Wii motion sensing has been criticized for "loosing" the pointer at times whereas the ps3's has been praised for being so accurate. I kno the Wii is doing a lot more in this regard and hopefully they make games that use the controller well, but I haven't seen any yet. Even Red Steel doesn't look like actual free motion sword play. Looks more like they just made more moves so you could do the move you want.
Oh, and the "microtransactions" is ONE GAME. You don't have to buy that game and if you do, you only have to buy the cars/tracks that you want. Sure, if you want every car and every track, you're going to spend a lot of money. But this is hardly even a new game, a few cars and tracks should hold you over until GT5. Spend even more? the game in the first place is gunna be cheap, like $5 since you have to buy everything through micro-transactions. - sambtravis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Microtransactions are only in one game that they have publicly released. Sony said they planned to use that feature quite a bit. And I don't have Live, i see it as a waste of money and time to be screamed at by hyperactive preteen noobs. But actually if you would have read my previous comment I clearly said i wasn't a fanboy, I would actually prefer my 360 to a Wii. If anything I'm an Xbox fanboy. I just think the Wii will be a more enjoyable system for the money than a PS3. Or with that $100 that i could have spent to "even" the price out after 2 YEARS. Blu-ray will prolly flop anyway. It seems to already be going downhill with all the film studios backing out. And saying that it has tilt sensitivity when comparing it to the Wii is a pretty retarded argument seeing as how the wiimote was pretty much built around that feature.
And I would love to buy all 3 systems but i see no point in dropping almost $1500 on them when thay all have pretty much the same games. - ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2HDMI is expensive for a friggin wire, but it's still easy to find at a good price. I got an excellent deal on an RCA brand one on eBay.
And since when is the rest of Sony falling? CyberShot cameras are fantastic and coveted, and the Bravia TV line is probably the best line of TVs out there (Samsung coming afterwards, I believe). Sony may be losing its hold as the best, but it's still up on top for now. I doubt the Wii will phase it much since it appeals to a completely different kind of gamer, since the PS2 is known for intense storyline-based games with amazing detail. Nintendo has been more on the simulation side lately. - jacenat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i have no doubt they will reign japan and the us again.
but think about it ... if microsoft heavily focuses on europe, they can push away sony VERY easy and aquire a HUGE share there that could put them closly behind sony or even slightly ahead of them.
i don't like microsoft, but seeing them doing launch parties in almost every EU country with massive european advertising ... and they do have a cheaper machine that has an overall game catalouge thats almost identical to that of the ps3. franchises and stuff don't matter in europe that much.
of course ... the article is crap.
but even i, as a firm sony fanboy, can't see how sony's gonna make it in europe when the console costs almost double the price of japan, and is delayed after christmas. - ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Eurpoe is always choppy ground. I doubt the Wii will sell there since everyone seems to be incredibly good at video games. Microsoft has a high chance of succeeding there, but Sony still has the most rabid fanbase in the UK as far as I've seen.
Seriously, they DOWNGRADED Pursuit Force's difficulty from the European release to bring it to the USA! I kid you not! - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@ sambtravis
What movie studios are backing out? Universal? The only movie studio that never supported Blu-Ray in the first place? If you get all your news from digg, at least read the comments (I assume you saw the articles saying Universal "backed out of Blu-Ray camp"), not just the headlines so we can tell you if a story is ***** or not.
- sambtravis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2See what i find to be some pedantic ***** is your argument. With Sony only selling a limited amount of PS3's in japan, compared to Nintendo, who I will bet you will hold the market share in japan in six months, is selling quite a bit more and actually making money. And seeing as how the nintendo is cheaper and probably a funner system. it will hold the worldwide gaming market. And it might sound it but No i'm not a nintendo fanboy. I just think they have a better system this generation than sony.
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Buying a PS3 will ONLY hurt Sony if they all sell out, and then just sit in the box, unused, and you don't buy games for them. That would create a false demand, cause Sony to produce more, sell them, and if this second crowd doesn't buy games too, THEN and ONLY then will buying a PS3 hurt Sony.
Anyone can see how implausible that line of thinking is. This article is bunk. - Gus1, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6Sony are too arrogant to give up PlayStation. Even if it does flop they will probably release PS4.
- slimthps, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5no ***** *****.
- Suplyndmnd, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3I actually read this article before finding it on here. I'm not a fan of PS3 or Sony and think they have mishandled a LOT of stuff but the article is relative crap. They mention the games being 10 dollars more per game but I dont remember seeing any kind of cost recoup added to the sony "loss" that will offset the billions they will lose on the consoles. Will they lose money? Sure. All of the consoles lose money. Will this be a lasting thing? Seriously doubt it. To all the people decrying Sony and saying they are going out of business over the PS3, get your head out of your ass and stop being mindless fanboy's. The XBox 360 is far superior to the PS3 but that's merely our opinion. Not everyone's and certainly not the majority of people who purchase gaming consoles.
I, personally, want the Wii and think it's a better choice for games but that's me. That's my opinion. Much like all speculation that the PS3 is doomed as well. I think it'll be #2, behind Xbox but ahead of the Wii.
BTW, I buried this as inaccurate as there will be no PS 360 especially not in 2007.- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4I know you say that "it's just our opinion" but how do you actually think that the 360 is "far superior"? If it's games, ok, I understand that. But just the systems, 360 doesn't beat ps3 in any way.
- ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I agree with most of your comment, but can you say in which way are you referring to that the 360 is farthest ahead? Xbox Live is not bad currently, but the "blades" take a lot of the screen real estate, rendering the purchase of an HDTV sort of ironic. Other than Live I can't see where you're going.
I plan to buy a PS3 near the launch date and maybe a 360 a year later if Microsoft stops spreading rumors about itself and games come steadily every few days rather than one every two weeks or so.
- RicDesan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The losses on the on the ramp up to console supremacy will occur as they always do and Sony will take the hit as they always have. Even given the conservative estimates magnified by the article, it will not be chump change. But to a corporate behemoth like Sony, they're losses its prepared to endure and will be mitigated over time.
The thing that will be a dragon-slayer in this case and Will break the proverbial back is tying your bread and butter product line to a BR content delivery format that doesn't already own the market as CD's did for PS2. If BR doesn't win AND right away the loss will really raise its ugly head and the defection from the Sony camp will be unlike anything its ever dealt with and not something as a company, you just "shake off." Remember we are talking about the UberKing of failed media formats!
This is the issue that BETTER be keeping Sony up at night ... eggs in one basket and all.- cal01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3RicDesan: Once the cost of manufacturing blue diodes comes down, which I'd imagine will be pretty soon, the cost of the PS3 will plummet dramatically.
- dleary, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Does a single blue diode cost $200? If not, I don't see the price dropping 'dramatically'. Say it costs $100 to manufacture a blue diode (still seems too expensive to me), and the price of manufacture is cut in half... There's a whopping $50 saving on the next PS3.
The PS3 will drop in price, and it will cost $200 to buy one in 5 years, but we're not going to see it "cheap" anytime soon. - cal01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4No, but the total manufacturing costs of one (ie. startup fab, etc) are very expensive. Hence why supply is a problem right now.
- StevethePirate, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Haha, i thought he said blue dildos and i read the article again to see what he was talking about.
- RicDesan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4There is no question that will happen ... its the adoption of the format I got my eye on. Sony seems to think they can tell the consumer what to adopt even though it hasnt worked in the past.
- swimmingbird67, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6every story that has been submitted from from "electric sista hood" website is a bunch of crap.
- xXShadowstormXx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Sony + Microsoft.
Imagine the DRM... - NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Ok, change of plans. Everyone buy a PS3!
- jsones346, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6LOL, it might even come with an embedded rootkit.
- whiteguysamurai, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2I've waited from the days of saturn to hear this.
YAY!!
Now if sega could be convinced to make consoles again, i will be a truely happy man. - john2kx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12....and the award for worst domain name goes to..... ElectricSistaHood!!!
- tdogg241, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4If by worst you mean BEST!
- Pic0, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6Sony doesnt just make playstations.
- Smwbigboss, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Thats right, they make laptop batteries also.
- Pyroteq, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Lucky that person wrote this article for Sony to see.
I don't think Sony's accountants could make it into work today.
/sarcasm - Afrotronics, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14LOL, the title totally made me laugh. There was a lady that came up to me at work (I work for RadioShack) and she asked me if we had any Playstation 360's about a month ago.
- tdogg241, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'd say it's not the PS3 that could ruin Sony. It's Blu-ray. And even then, I really doubt that it'll ruin them completely. After all, they developed Betamax, Minidisc, and SACD (among other failed formats/technologies) and likely never made a dime off of any of those.
They'll be ok. - chandler55, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1As evil as you guys think Microsoft are this is completely ridiculous.
- impulsiveboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7How the hell did this hit the front page? Sony's stock on the NYSE is sitting at around 40 right now. That's mid-rage as of lately. Assuming the PS3 hits the market in the next year, they're set to recoup their initial run of PS3s at the very least. To put it in plain black and white, the Playstation is a brand name and brand names like that sell. It's up in the air if it'll be a hit, sure. I'll allow the article that, but look at the last year's stock report. Do you see investors worrying?
This front page space should be going to a YouTube video of the Colbert Report instead. - MonkeyLives, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1http://www.theimageplace.net/uploads/af6ab33c63.gif
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This article should be a good example for what happens when you start to believe your own FUD. - ManWithAPlan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I think that the author should leave fundamental analysis to analysts. The poster compares Net Income projections to current cash balances to say that Sony is going broke. This is quite simply not how accounting works. As an earlier poster has mentioned the costs of the Playstation 3 units already produced has already hit The Statement of Cash Flows but will not be recognized on the Income Statement until the units are sold due to cost revenue matching principal. The poster didn't even look into financial equity ratios or book value analysis. Additionally looking at one segment of what is esentially at this point a diversified media holdings company gives a poor overall picture. Therefore the doom and gloom analysis is completely bunk. Sony is having a terrible time, but they are in much much better shape than say Ford. Please leave stock analysis to analysts, thx.
- impulsiveboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Extree! Extree! Read all about it! Digg poster confirms Mark A. Schultz's secret annoucement to sell Jaguar to Microsoft!
- slaystench, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Uh, duh? Sony has been losing money on their consoles for a long time now.
They make their money on the software and accessories. - djepik, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3This is the worst article ever. I thought everyone knew that ALL comanies lose money on the consoles that they sell. Thanks very much to whoever posted / dugg this
- Oogler, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Gee, when you sell 1 digi-beta machine for $50k+ and you're the *dominant*, bar none, numero uno, broadcast format on the planet I don't think you give a rats ass about a couple of lost sales in 'game' consoles. Sony is not in any danger of collapsing because of the failure of the PS3 or any gaming platform. Give your heads a shake.
- pHr3ak3r, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Holy Crap! Companies sell consoles at a loss so they can make money off of the games which cost a whopping $1 to make?!
Say what?! Microsoft did this too?! It was all over digg then too?! WHOA!
Who now? Oh the author...yea he should kill himself out of respect for the rest of us...
Go stab yourself...using numbers to make your point only works if your smart at doing so. For example if I take your IQ and divide it by the GDP...then your mom is a whore...- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2you're somewhat right, but the games cost ALOT of money to make. Dev kits alone cost tens of thousands of dollars. Unless you're talking about a disk, case, and burning the game to the disk, in which case: you forgot about all the other stuff.
- ASSASSYN, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3DIE SONY...DIE!
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Marked as inaccurate. And this action would be illegal anyway.
There's simply no evidence of Sony's profit margin (or deficit margin) nor any malice from MS.
Additionally, this again gets an automatic digg down for stating that HDMI cables cost more than they do (in this case, $99). Standard HDMI cables, like the PS3 use, cost $20. They are $8 at Monoprice.
If you aren't clued in enough to know how much an HDMI cable costs, you aren't clued in enough to hold court on the future of HD gaming. - RiemannLebesgue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Ah, the wonderful responses to this by the Sony fanboys on Digg just make me giggle. They can't admit to themselves what Sony is doing.
- ChinezePanda, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Ummm..
To the author of that site...
YOU DO KNOW that sony manufactors other electronics used VASTLY worldwide besides the Playstation correct?
God... damnit... I hate people that sound like the Playstation is Sony's only electronic device on the market.
Now excuse me while I plug in my sony headphones into my sony amp connected to my sony 7.1 home theatre system.
while cruising on my wifes Sony Vaio...
while she uses my rig... that bitch =)
cheers- brutalgeuse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Read this and see if you feel the same way:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.09/sony.html
- brutalgeuse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Read this and see if you feel the same way:
- spencenaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I am so sick of these blogs foretelling the demise of Sony. Sony made 25.4 Billion dollars in profits last year. They could give away a million PS3's for free they would still make a large profit. So, how exactly is the PS3 going to put Sony out of business? Geeze you would think that the PS3 is the only product Sony sells by reading some of these stupid blog rantings.
- treachen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Hmm.. I'm taking a stab in the dark here. If it costs Sony approximately $900 to produce 1 PS3, and they give 1 million away, that = -$900,000,000. How is this making a profit?
- ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think he means net profit.
Theres simply no positive to giving them away, although the $500 model comes close to that.
- gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you aren’t recovering your capital investment through sales, you are losing money.
Why on earth would Microsoft want to buy into that, other than to take the competition out of the market? I think this rivalry is of benefit to their strategy. It allows them to differentiate themselves from a popular similar competitor, AKA the buzz effect. Lets face it; a one man boxing match just isn’t that interesting.
Now if Apple were to buy Sony’s game division; that would be interesting. - Boor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3From the title I thought it was going to be an article about how it would be a good idea for microsoft to send out people to buy up as many PS3's as possible and then just blow them up or throw them somewhere. Thereby making less real people own PS3's which meens less software sales (which is what they will be making profit on). I have an over elaborate imagination sometimes.
- ASSASSYN, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0DON`T BE A BITCH SWITCH! XBOX360
- SomeJerk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Digg is fair and balanced just like Fox News.- jacenat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5fox isn't fair and balanced
wait ... that you beeing sarcastic, right?
bummer ..
- jacenat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5fox isn't fair and balanced
- BattleToad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wow, just an extremely long fanboy article about how one system will win over another. Anyone else getting sick of this crap? We will all know soon enough which system is the best, not that it really matters anyway. More systems mean more choices for the consumer and better prices as each company tries to win our loyalty. Gamers will always seek out high quality, entertaining games while fanboys will hate the competition, no matter what it has to offer.
- Darksoul, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0HAHAHAHAHAHAH yeah right shure this will happen *rolls eyes* serously lol m$ able to buy sony get real will never happen for one sony is a japanesse company like they would let m$ do such a thing and if you people really belive that sony is going to die off and the ps3 is going to not be a good system they said the same crap about the ps1 and hmmm what happend with that system I wont even add the ps2 which is still outselling xbox 360 to this day.
Sereously im not trashing the 360 but lets not kid ourselfes about the ps3 not selling it will and you all know it.- ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5ENGLISH *****!! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?
Please. I love fanboyism but I hate dumbasses. Rephrase that for the love of humanity...
- ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5ENGLISH *****!! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?
- urbanpitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What about the Nintendo PlayStation 360. now THAT sounds better
like, an all-in-one "SYSTEM"!!!!!, COOL!!!!, I'd buy that
lol, hahaha on the comment above - Th3BlkGh05T, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2What is this guy thinking? And why does this even have digs?
Delete this crap and ban the user from further posting... - ZeroMP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe if Microsoft bought EVERY console that Sony made and no controllers and no games - instead just scrapped them out for parts... then did the same thing again with the next batch of consoles they made - then perhaps... no, still wont work.
It would only cost them 300M to buy the entire launch stack - which would screw devs more than anyone. Now they could peddle them all on ebay for 500M and turn a 200M profit off Sony's losses, but then you've still got all those fools buying controllers and games.
It would never happen but I would laugh my ass off to watch Sony taking it in the shorts producing these things while Microsoft raked in a huge profit gouging them off on ebay. - blanktarget, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Who posts these kinds of things? It's like hitting a beehive with a stick....
- Mystikal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google will buy out Microsoft. Youll see.
- acurism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This might just be one of the stupidest posts I have seen yet at Digg!
Inaccurate and marked as so - reklis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A couple of years ago the trendy thing to say was that Microsoft was going to buy Nintendo, that rumor went about as far as this one will go
- zanvann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Gah...horrible article.
Profit is in the software, not the hardware.- skellener, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Not always. Apple makes most of it's dough from iPods, not the music downloads.
- brutalgeuse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm glad you mentioned that, zanvann.
Are developers willing to fork out the extra development costs to make games for the PS3? Sure, MGS4 is pretty much guaranteed to make money...but how many 3rd party developers are going to shell out 50 to 75 percent more money (compared to the Wii) to make a game? The financial risk involved just doesn't make sense. If a game bombs for the PS3, developers will lose millions more than if their game bombs for the Wii.
Oh - just in case you think I'm pulling facts out of my ass:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149154.html
I wouldn't be surprised if 3rd parties test run their games on the Wii first, see if they're successful and then port the game with better graphics to the PS3.
- skellener, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1> "Our ideal," Kutaragi said, "is for consumers to think to themselves,
> 'OK, I'll work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel that
> they want it, no matter what."
I thought the idea was to work less and have more time for gaming? Sony is dead. The PS3 is DOA. - AzraelKans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh my! you know what, why dont we just stop talking about real consoles, and invent imaginary consoles of our own? Mine is the WheezerS! has a sensor movement a cray computer CPUI and a teledildonic interface, It has just the same real value as this post.
Seriously guys, We kind of noticed you liked the Wii, but reality check
1.-Nobody (besides us who watch internet news) knows what the heck is a Wii. We dont really know how well is going to work out on the common average Joe to which the Wii is targetted to.
2.-Sony happens to be a multimillion dollar company that goes through electronics, movies, tv and entertainment, the entertainment division only is large enough to buy Nintendo. Sony itself could buy Microsoft (if they were for sale) Sony is going through a "crisis" due to the blue ray and the HD (which looks like will eventually be accepted) , they had already gone through a crisis with the betamax, survived and created the playstation and the PS2 their best sellers ever. Sony is not going anywhere for a PS3 "crisis".
3.-Sony is not dying, Not even the PS3 is dying the PS3 is getting sold, specially now they dropped the price in Japan. The PS3 already had the same ammount of presales than the Wii BEFORE they showed the Japanese the final version and the Price Cut in the TGS
4.Remember Kids, there's 200 million ps2 users in the world, it needs less than 0.5% of them to sell out the current PS3's in existence. (or in the making actually)
5.-The Wii itself is not "the ultimate console ever!" Nintendo themselves know the Wii is some wacky experiment looking to atract non gamers to gaming. Eventually the Sensor controller (if succesful) is can and will be copied to any console system (pc. xbox, ps3 you name it) Nintendo knows that so I have no doubt they are already working in a far more capable hardcore console in the backburner.
I mean seriously guys some Wii games look like this:
http://www.theultrageeks.com/spanish/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/wingisland01.jpg
So please lay down the crack pipe, or at least stop digging up any story with the phrase Wii is great or giving Sony some hard time,. Specially if its made of bull crap.- hamstereater, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0shut up troll
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