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- EDmAN, on 10/27/2007, -29/+119If this is true, I will not be purchasing this game. I like multiplayer, but single player is still the bread and butter of what I play. I was disappointed with Halo and Gears of War for that issue. No game worth its weight in hype should be less than 10 hours in length. It makes you wonder if developers are just compensating to get these games on DVD's. Maybe Haze will show us how it's supposed to be done, I mean it is on Blu_Ray.
- pacmangamer, on 10/26/2007, -9/+50Thats gonna cost about $10.00 per hour to complete the game......That SUCKS!!!!!!!!
- Burritoking924, on 10/26/2007, -6/+41What happened to the good old days of gaming. I still haven't gotten all the stars in Super Mario 64, and its been how many years?
- nreynolds, on 10/26/2007, -3/+37and then you have to throw the game away and never play multiplayer...
- NaziHatinChimp, on 10/26/2007, -4/+33All the Call of Duty's were short playing on normal. The Veteran setting is how the game should be played.
- doctorfungi, on 10/27/2007, -1/+29Call of Duty games often have QUALITY single player, but 4-6 hours is a little weak...
- zwick, on 10/26/2007, -13/+35MP alone is worth it. Played the MP beta almost everyday...and it ruined Halo3 MP for me...
- jspegele, on 10/27/2007, -4/+25I don't think we can blame DVDs. Just look at Oblivion. It has well over 100 hours of gameplay and one of the most expansive worlds ever created in a game, yet still fits on a DVD. Blame the developers, not the discs.
- Godmil, on 10/27/2007, -3/+22I'm going to be the voice of dissent and say, as long as those 5-6 hours are top quality, I don't care how long it is.
Portal proved recently that a great game is great, regardless of the length of story mode. - taxman, on 10/27/2007, -5/+24Although i agree with you on that games should be bigger , blaming it on DVD is just plain wrong. The shortest game around is Heavenly sword, which is on BD. Its 6 hours on an average and has no MP. Even FPS games (which tend to be shorter than other games) on the 360 hasn't gone below the 6 hour mark (if you ignore the Sony fanboys). Meanwhile Orange box is more than 20 hours on single player alone and Bioshock is around 12~15 hours.
FPS, for a long time have been shorter than other genre games but 4~6 hours is really short. - Zodix, on 10/26/2007, -5/+20Oblivion was well over 100 hours of sheer repetition. It's expansive but not diverse, I can see it fitting on a DVD.
- Atacand, on 10/26/2007, -1/+16CoD4 has the best multiplayer of any game this year. It is hardcore in all the ways that Gears of War and Halo are not. Fast action, awesome weapons, team strategy, addictive player leveling.
- Doomsan, on 10/26/2007, -7/+21oh man you must really suck, i got SM64 back a little while ago, and i got all the stars in like 5 days...find it much easier 10 years laters.
- AwesomeMonster, on 10/26/2007, -5/+18*****! I was so excited to know that the original team was going to be behind this COD and i would get all the fun of COD 1&2's singleplayer campaign. Glad to see they skimped out on what is the best part of the sieres.
- mywhitenoise, on 10/26/2007, -1/+13Wow, that's 24 stars a day. Loser.
- leonwehttam, on 10/26/2007, -0/+12because the beta was multiplayer and was addictive with only 3 levels to try.....sooooo goood
- bdorry, on 10/28/2007, -1/+13Not everyone bought the Orange Box for only Episode 2 and Portal. There are people that haven't played Half Life 2 and Episode 1 and they both come in the box as well.
- ahnonamis, on 10/26/2007, -0/+12On one hand, I'm disappointed that it's so short. On the other, I realize how big of a hypocrite I'd be if I slammed a game for having a short singleplayer but an awesome multiplayer when I have nothing but praise for Halo 3, which is essentially the same situation.
- xkesterx, on 10/26/2007, -5/+15What a load of crap. HL2 is on a single DVD and it's 12+ hours of gameplay. Coupled with EP1, EP2, Portal and TF2, all, I'm led to believe, on the same DVD. It isn't DVD size that is holding developers back, it's optimisation.
- leodavinci, on 10/26/2007, -2/+11What if those 5-6 hours are the most fun you have ever had in a video game? What if the replay value is enormous? You can't judge if a game is blockerbuster worthy or not based upon how long it is, take a look at Portal, it is only 3 hours long but is incredible.
- catalysis, on 10/26/2007, -6/+15You can't compare an RPG with an FPS like that. Two totally different types of games.
- subhantj, on 10/26/2007, -0/+7The bad thing about achievement for multiplayer is that people just aim to get their achievements and not think about winning the match.. it sometimes ruins multiplayer..
I think its a smart move not having online achievements. - Optimaximal, on 10/26/2007, -0/+7Well, not really... Higher skill levels mean that you will often die if hit by something like a rifle or a grenade.
- ByteGuerilla, on 10/26/2007, -3/+10Gears multiplayer is very lacking. It's very bland due to lack of gametypes, and extremely repetitive. The campaign is short, but by far the best thing about the game.
- inactive, on 10/26/2007, -5/+12Blech, more reason to stick to TF2.
- lacronicus, on 10/25/2007, -4/+11Dugg down for having to click on the link just to find out what CoD4 stood for.
- dobbinmon, on 10/26/2007, -0/+6it's more likely to be the case that the lazy ass game designers ran out of ideas for single player scenarios and thought no one would notice
- superstewy, on 10/25/2007, -0/+6Yeah, if only EA made this game jackass. It's published by Activision and developed Infinity Ward. Who the hell just dugg him up? Oh wait, I forgot, everything bad with the gaming industry is EA's fault.
- autorock, on 10/26/2007, -1/+7Everyone is missing the point. Short games have NOTHING to do with DVD versus Bluray. The truth is, content is expensive to produce, especially in this current generation (and going forward, more so). Why would a developer sink a ton of cash into making a 20+ hour game when they can get away with less than 8 and still charge the same price? Personally, since I get bored with new games easily, I actually enjoy the shorter campaigns, as long as it's at the expense of killer visuals. Gears of War is case and point: It was over just before it got repetitive and boring. I got the satisfaction of "winning" the game, then I got to move on to the next challenge.
You can complain all you want, talk about futile boycotts, whatever. The fact is, the market will support shorter games (extended with for-pay downloadable content, of course!), therefore the 20+ hour epic campaign is a thing of the past, at least with anything resembling a shooter. - noahhoward, on 10/25/2007, -2/+8"a campaign that only lasts five to six hours will be dissapointing for people like myself who enjoy a good, long single-player experience"
Spoken like a chronic masturbater. - Christbait, on 10/26/2007, -4/+10I'm amazed that you're able to even switch your computer on.
- spyrochaete, on 10/26/2007, -1/+6Not on my PC. Try using a cable modem instead of playing by carrier pigeon.
- mavranos, on 10/25/2007, -0/+5There are many thousands of casual gamers that enjoy online play. That is not to say we don't want a good length of single player though.
I play one or two nights a week after my wife and kids have gone to bed. I don't live in my mother's basment, I have a career, active social life and am a well rounded individual. Take your invalid older gamer stereotype elsewhere. - WoollyMittens, on 10/26/2007, -1/+6pwned
- Optimaximal, on 10/26/2007, -0/+5The move to HD won't be happening for a while. Hell, it took up until about 2 years ago until most games in the US started receiving DVD-only releases (look at UT2004 & Far Cry?), whilst the EU has been receiving DVD-only releases for ages.
HD formats are just an excuse for developers to not seek out decent encoding & compression for the video, sounds and texture they use - Hell, the example above of HL2 features 15+ hours of gameplay (not counting the Episodes and other games related too it) on a DVD, a feat achieved by doing all the work in the engine rather than lazily encoded High-Def video that's in place for the sole reason of pushing the formats.
Take the example of MGS4 only being 'able' to fit on a BD? What ***** - the demos produced so far have shown less actual content than games 5 years old. The entire game is rendered in the engine, where is all the need for space? - navster15, on 10/25/2007, -0/+5I'm not much of a PC gamer, but what is the format for PC games? Have they moved up to the HD formats yet or are they still on DVD? Are they going to fit Crysis on a DVD?
- Christbait, on 10/25/2007, -0/+5HL2 ep2 isn't a victim of putting in less work.. it's episodic content, they're doing it so Valve don't just go "oh, let's just bunch them all together", only for everyone to forget about it completely after a year or two, they're just extending the life of a killer game series.
And stuff like doom 2 isn't exactly the hardest work to develop. - ShooterMcGavin, on 10/25/2007, -0/+5Well, since I have played the demo level at least 4 dozen times, that has got to be a good 3 to 4 hours worth right there... then, I probably spent at least 20 to 40 solid hours playing the MP Beta. I figure all that entertainment I've already gotten alone is worth $50 bucks. I have no qualms about this game's single player only being 4-6 hours. Do I wish it were longer? Of course. But, I was so blown away by the game play, you will not hear me complaining.
Waiting for November... - lacronicus, on 10/25/2007, -0/+5wtf? 4 hours is 4 hours, whether you play for hours at a time or not.
- spyrochaete, on 10/25/2007, -0/+4Ultima 1 fit on a single floppy and was over 20 hours long.
- terriblelie, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4Uhm the macx two words for ya, Heavenly Sword.... Only 5 hours of playtime on your hard-on inducing format.
- LimeParrot, on 10/25/2007, -0/+4Comes down to this. If you can play the multiplayer (LIVE gold) then it's still worth it, as it's a fun and polished experienced (I played the BETA). If you see the single player as the main experience and the multiplayer as an added bonus, then don't bother.
- houndeyex, on 10/25/2007, -0/+4HL2:EP2 is part of a series and I believe only cost $20.
- Mosatii, on 10/25/2007, -1/+5I could care less; I'm getting it for the multiplayer.
- BobsYourUncle, on 10/25/2007, -0/+4It's been my experience that Gears multiplayer is a TERRIBLE place for newcomers. I tried to get into it and there was no patience for my lack of skills. If you have friends playing it, it might be worth picking up. But if you don't (and I don't) it can be extremely frustrating. It's very hard to find individuals who care more about just playing rather then the skills (or lack thereof) of their teammates.
- spyrochaete, on 10/26/2007, -1/+5What about STALKER? That game fits in both categories and has quite an expansive world.
- andydumi, on 10/26/2007, -3/+7Gow is 8ish on your first run, 6ish if you are good at FPSes in general.
Halo was 5 hours with some dillydallying, 3-4 if you are good at FPSes.
But both of those, as well as COD are MP geared now, gone are the days when SP was king and a good story was the center. I hate that, as I would rather play SP for 15 then 30-50 hours of average MP, then move on to a different game with a different setting than a handful of hours of uninspiring SP that is supposed to be backed by "hundreds of hours" of MP.
If you want perfect MP, do that as your focus, like UT, Counterstrike, TF and so forth, thats why those are still king. - crackedplastic, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4InfinityWard did not do CoD3. CoD4 has its own achievements, actually - just not tied in with the XBox achievements.
- leonwehttam, on 10/25/2007, -0/+4Best damn multiplayer ive played on a console!
- diggrim, on 10/27/2007, -0/+4I'm hurting for the next Battlefield (I'll never buy 2142!)
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