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Call of Duty 4 overtakes Halo 3 as the top game on Xbox Live

majornelson.com — The top games for the week of January 14th have been released, and it looks like Halo 3 is now second to Call of Duty 4 as the top game on Xbox Live. It's about time.

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  • Rijnzael, on 01/22/2008, -89/+29And here begins the decline of the arrogance that is Bungie. Hopefully anyway.
    • jimbojim, on 01/22/2008, -22/+89And why is Bungie arrogant? Bungie gives its players exactly what they want. They also change their playlists based on what people are playing more and add new maps every few months (at a cost, but its better than nothing).... Activision does none of this with CoD4.

      If you don't like Halo its one thing, but Bungie is one of the best gaming companies there is.
      • Rijnzael, on 01/22/2008, -43/+11I didn't make a value judgment on the franchise or Bungie themselves. I just called them arrogant. And they are. It doesn't take long of hanging around the Bungie website to get the holier-than-thou vibe from their employees.
        • jmreid, on 01/22/2008, -3/+24hanging around the website? You must be really close to them.
        • inajeep, on 01/22/2008, -2/+9WTF are you smoking? I have never even thought of them as arrogant. I don't think anyone has, maybe some of the fans but then again who isnt'. How about some examples or your just trolling for the sake of it?
        • damanh4x, on 01/22/2008, -9/+4wow your an idiot.
          • itsthebrod, on 01/22/2008, -3/+9YOU'RE an even bigger idiot for not knowing the third grade difference between you're and your. ***** idiot.
          • Jomwilli, on 01/22/2008, -15/+1your=you're
        • OwdenBowden, on 01/22/2008, -10/+4CoD4 is very pretty but that is it. There is nothing amazing nor fantastic about it. Not to say Halo3 is great either but it does have a total package to offer vs. CoD.

          Also - I think CoD4 needs to look out for Rock Star - at $1 billion in sales I think we now know who the champ is...
        • SlappyMc, on 01/22/2008, -3/+2I agree with Rijnzael. Listen to their podcast, they're kinda douchey
      • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -10/+27Correct me if I'm wrong... but COD4 added maps... for free.. a few months ago... Or at least expanded certain maps to be playable in other modes. But they definitely added something during there last update. For Free.
        • HBNDonut, on 01/22/2008, -12/+7The Halo 3 maps are going to be free next month...
          • DarkShroud, on 01/22/2008, -9/+17Yes, next month. The COD4 maps were free from the start on all platforms.
        • Christbait, on 01/22/2008, -4/+8There were no "Free" maps. They just added a few more of the currently available ones in to the playlist cycle. Shut up.
        • Ajajadude, on 01/22/2008, -0/+8Well, to be fair, the COD4 map "additions" weren't a download-and-install map pack like most map packs are, they just kind've added them to the rotation. Microsoft (and Sony) generally are the ones charging for map packs and the like.
      • Synn, on 01/22/2008, -14/+4Why is Bungie great again? I mean come on...all they are really known for is Halo. You can go ahead and say "but...but...Marathon"...but only a small pocket of the gaming community cares about those games. That's more of a cult following. Bungie just knows how to conduct a hype train.
        • TheBEAST205, on 01/22/2008, -0/+4Well, you also have Myth and Oni, they were pretty good games.
      • Christbait, on 01/22/2008, -7/+5Their games may be absolute *****, but unlike the rest of Console developers out there, they know how to keep close to their community and have given them what they want every time. I personally hate Halo 3 but it's a different beast to COD4.
        • dandonia, on 01/23/2008, -2/+2I'm part of their "community" I own Halo 3, the best part of xbl is the ability to talk to people while playing via a head set, Halo makes you hold a direction button to talk, that means if i want a constant flowing conversation with my friends while we play I have to hold the pad in a weird way. How is that giving the community what it wants, they screwed me on that one.
      • SlappyMc, on 01/22/2008, -3/+3I dont think bungie gives us exactly what we want. I wanted a bigger gameplay leap from halo 2 to 3; didnt get that.. And you say something about new maps every few months.. The game has been out for 4 months, and we've got 2 real maps and a forge.. thingy.. not exactly speedy in the map department. I for one have stopped playing halo 3 and moved over to CoD4.. I just find it more fun.. Its closer to how real life would play out, and I find that rad (as close as a video game can get atm anyway).
        • jedikv, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1CoD4 - realisitc? Lmao, go play GRAW or Operation Flashpoint kid
    • doctorfungi, on 01/22/2008, -2/+25They both make good games. I'd rather see them both prevail and continue to make fun, enjoyable games.
      • jedikv, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Damn straight - I don't get this ''rivalry''
    • Tserk, on 01/22/2008, -4/+16There may be a few names to sling at Bungie, but arrogant isn't one of them.
    • SubaruPowah, on 01/22/2008, -9/+13If what the users want is the same exact game with a graphical makeover.
    • EXreaction, on 01/22/2008, -8/+13I don't know if I'd call them arrogant. I would call them assholes though.

      They promised an extreme amount of customization options and a server browser for online play. The customization was only half assed, and forge/custom games are completely useless without a server browser.

      Their reason for not having a custom game/server browser was that they "wanted to keep people in matchmaking so it was more fun for those who wanted to play matchmaking". That's when I said ***** you and I haven't played Halo 3 since (though I didn't play it much before either).
      • elpohl, on 01/22/2008, -9/+5Well, certainly by not playing Halo 3 you are making them sad face. You sound like the Master Chief that sucks at Halo. Keep calling companies assholes man...
    • ericrous, on 01/22/2008, -0/+7I doubt Bungie cares. They're all still recovering from the summer push, peacefully asleep on stacks of $100 bills.
    • elliotys, on 01/22/2008, -4/+3Commandment #11) Though shalt not disrespect bungie.
      • jedikv, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1More like Infinity Ward
      • BobDoleeeee, on 02/18/2008, -0/+0I made this Digg account for one sole reason. That was one of the single most gayest things I have ever heard said ever.
    • Rijnzael, on 01/22/2008, -2/+2To clarify my comment, since some people seem to be misinterpreting: I find Bungie, or at least the figure heads of their community, i.e. the people who have no say in the game's development whatsoever, to be arrogant. I very much like the Halo series and definitely enjoy playing the game. Just as much as I like CoD 4. Still, the people who write for the site, do the podcast, post on the forums, etc. come off as jerks who think that, because they're affiliated with Bungie, they're gods of the gaming world.
    • PaddyD, on 01/22/2008, -1/+4Bungie are very in touch and down to earth with their fans and players - a lot of developers take this for granted. Of course Bungie make some spectacular games, their shining point is their connection with players. Congratulations to Infinity Ward, though. Personally, I prefer Call of Duty 4.
  • xcelx1023, on 01/22/2008, -35/+340I'm glad to see COD4 claim the top spot, imo its a better game. Congrats to IW.

    • DarkSamus, on 01/22/2008, -22/+41there's no doubt cod is better, it would've been a shame to have the most overrated game overshadow a gem like cod
    • TheKidd, on 01/22/2008, -9/+69The bar has been raised. I haven't touched Halo 3 since playing COD4. Now if Microsoft can just get XB Live working at 100% I'll be a happy camper.
      • Sle3per, on 01/22/2008, -6/+82You won't be a happy camper for longer once my UAV is up.
      • Dylson, on 01/22/2008, -5/+1Pfft, i'd own all of you with one strategically placed air strike.
    • roosterjm2k2, on 01/22/2008, -23/+10Its a great game...."better" is an irrelevant term.

      I play both, I play halo less and less... Its not that halo is an inferior game, its a different genre. Comparing them based on that fact that they are FPSs is not really valid. FPSs have spread so far apart from one another, that they are really Apples to Oranges now. It's like comparing Mario Kart to Need for Speed...they are both racing games, but they are not the same genre.

      I never liked previous COD games, because they were very much "rushed" and the controls were lacking that "good feeling" that they have now. Aside from grenading myself a few times trying to reload (halo 3 habits die hard) the controls in COD4 are the best in an XBox FPS so far (my opinion, feel free to have yours).

      Playing halo now, I feel like im running around on the moon. I never noticed just how high, long, and far you jump in that game untill I played COD4. It always felt right before...but now, I can't get used to it...so I play it less and less. The game didnt change, just my taste...

      In the end, both are excellent games...Everyone just has different (and changing) tastes.
      • fallenone05, on 01/22/2008, -8/+10"Better" becomes relevant for people who don't own either and are questioning which one ot get; in this case, COD being better is not just a matter of opinion, it's a fact.
        • roosterjm2k2, on 01/22/2008, -6/+9 Its purely a matter of opinion...and far from fact. Its better for YOU maybe, H3 is better for others...
        • Intangible360, on 01/22/2008, -2/+9Lol, what? You cannot say one game being better than another is a fact, you might want to crack open a dictionary and look up fact and opinion.
      • dsmx, on 01/22/2008, -3/+13I still think though that the grenades are way to over powering in COD4 some maps just end up as a grenade spam.
        • munkyxtc, on 01/22/2008, -2/+4Grenades are a necessary evil in this type of game; however, I will agree that they are extremely overpowered. This becomes evident when playing certain gametypes such as HQ; if you are on a HQ and someone from the opposing team tosses a grenade anywhere near the room your are huddled in you are a goner. That's my one hope for when they send out an update is that they fine tune the frag's damage.

          Also, since I'm on my list of fixes/nice to haves; how about when you are taking fire and jump out a window you don't die? Sure, maybe I broke a leg (or both) but I doubt a jump from a 2nd floor window is going to kill anyone then let me crawl away for hobble for my life; don't just kill me; make them earn that kill.
          • ScionX, on 01/22/2008, -3/+1They dont get the kill for it anyway, it counts as a suicide.
          • munkyxtc, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2After reading my comment I guess I worded that portion poorly; true that it's a suicide; I meant they get the kill as I'm dead and now I'm out of the equation moreso than meaning they got the kill and +1. At least if I'm hobbling along I can still try and shoot at someone.
        • ScionX, on 01/22/2008, -5/+3I just wish they would remove air strikes & Helecopters from the smaller maps.
          • moskaudancer, on 01/22/2008, -2/+3Or from certain gametypes. It's pretty ***** annoying in HQ or Sabotage, but at least in Domination or Search & Destroy it takes some strategy to use them correctly.
        • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -2/+3I wish they would move the HQ if neither team can claim it after 5 frigging minutes. I'm looking at you container opened on both sides on bog... and practically every day place in shipment (I believe thats what its called... the small ass level with all the containers) especially the one in the middle of that map... Hell in that damn map there really is no point even getting headquarters, since withen 2 seconds the whole team is dead and you lose it anywya.
    • daridave, on 01/22/2008, -3/+14Feels like DOOM3 vs Half-Life 2 all over again. Both games were fun but very different and ultimately, the game that felt like it had a more complex control scheme ended up being considered superior. Not that I disagree with that, but I really see the two games as completely different beasts (ultimately, if I had to vote, my vote would go to COD4, though).
    • BrewBeau, on 01/22/2008, -4/+15There's no doubt that COD4 is a better single player game and it's multiplayer is good, but not great. The problem I have with COD4 is the inconsistent physics that are really obvious when you die and watch your death scene from the killer's point of view. On your screen, you are well hidden behind some cover and shoot several times before they begin to shoot, but on their screen, you're out in the open and they've unloaded half a clip into you. Halo definitely has COD beat in that department.
      • shinythingy, on 01/22/2008, -2/+8lag?
      • moskaudancer, on 01/22/2008, -2/+4I think that's just a problem with the killcam. One of the reasons Hardcore is superior.
      • zweben, on 01/22/2008, -1/+3I think that's probably lag as shinythingy said. Ever hear someone on Halo say "WTF I shot you 50 times, how did I die!?" Same problem, you just don't realize it as much because it doesn't show you what the other person saw.
      • Chirp08, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2ever think that maybe you aren't as hidden as you think? ;)
        • BrewBeau, on 01/22/2008, -0/+5ha. Sometimes. Ok, most of the time. But there are times when you are just dumbfounded at how out in the open you appear on the killcam but not on your screen.
      • TheGonzo, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2Helicopter on teh way
    • roamzero, on 01/22/2008, -1/+8The main thing better with the online aspect (this is going by the beta), is that you play with the same people you get matched with until you leave. This is great because you don't have wait for matchmaking each game. Also, if people quit CoD4 drops in people to balance out teams, and balances teams between games. Why Bungie couldn't put these things into their game completely escapes me.
      • jedikv, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Unless the host quits then game over. Not in Halo.
    • Chirp08, on 01/22/2008, -1/+9I haven't touched my halo 3 disc since buying COD.
    • xkorbin, on 01/23/2008, -0/+3I hate the little kids (sexes unknown, mostly sounding like girls), that play Xbox Live... "Son of a bitch, that son of a bitch"
    • rentmitchum, on 01/23/2008, -1/+2Me and a friend played some Halo 3 the other day, and all I can enjoy on it anymore is rocket race because of COD4. It just feels so sloppy after you play COD4 for awhile. COD4 might have a higher learning curve, but it ends up being SO much more satisfying. Oh, and wtf is with the online being so slow on Halo 3? I mean it's been out longer and it takes WAY longer to get a match.
    • cococrispies, on 01/23/2008, -2/+0just wait for duke nukem forever to take the top spot
  • CannonGod, on 01/22/2008, -20/+80I think gamers get fed up with the terribly 'elitist' gameplay habits of Halo players, they move over to another game where everyone begins on a similar playing field. It's nice to reset to zero once in a while with online games.
    • StingerMS, on 01/22/2008, -29/+14Are you crazy? Halo 3 was MADE for noobs. Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War are two great games that require precision and teamwork.
      • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -21/+11Actually I found it alot easier to get into COD4 then Halo 3 multiplayer... Halo 3 is filled with a bunch of 12 year olds whose lives consist of 3 things: School, eat, sleep, Halo 3. And all they do is jump around like idiots shooting things. Its not fun at all coming on there... Whereas COD4 is fun from the getgo... hell I was smiling when I first played and got knifed like 7 times in my first match... its just a much better gaming experience. Quicker. Halo feels so slow and crappy after COD4.. maybe thats why its starting to get the nickname "Gaylo"
        • unicronband, on 01/22/2008, -4/+51"Halo 3 is filled with a bunch of 12 year olds whose lives consist of 3 things: School, eat, sleep, Halo 3"
          Uh, that's actually 4 things.
        • DarkShroud, on 01/22/2008, -5/+11School, eat, sleep, & Halo3 are 4 things. But yes Halo 3 is getting old quick.
        • roosterjm2k2, on 01/22/2008, -3/+14I have 2 words for you. Learn to Count.
          • s1mph0ny, on 01/23/2008, -1/+2That's the best 4 word comment I've read all day.
        • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -6/+2i actually thought I put 4.... I was going to say 3 things in sleep, school, play... but then realized they have to eat... must have had both things in my mind at once.
        • sammypai, on 01/23/2008, -1/+1Nobody's told you yet, but, that list was 4 things. not 3. but 4.
    • jayfish, on 01/22/2008, -11/+81That didn't bother me so much. What I got fed up with was emptying two magazines into someone and watching them hop away like an Apollo astronaut.

      Jay
      • Sle3per, on 01/22/2008, -7/+35I knew your name before you signed your post. (next time you could leave it out)
        Sle3per
      • Sairgem, on 01/22/2008, -13/+33If you're unloading two magazines on someone and they still don't die, you need to learn how to aim.
        • jayfish, on 01/22/2008, -20/+8No, the Covenant and UNSC need to spend more time and money on weapons development.

          Jay
        • wattersm, on 01/22/2008, -6/+25Nah, I've had it happen plenty of times too. Hell, you can shoot somebody point blank in the face with the shotgun and they still won't die.
          • stellarceltic, on 01/22/2008, -12/+4No, you can't. You may think you did, but they would be dead. If they didn't die, you didn't shoot them point blank in the face. Unless they had overshield or something.
          • cawpin, on 01/22/2008, -3/+23I ***** hate that *****. Especially when you surprise the hell out of somebody and they are laggy. Boom! Headsho.....wha?
      • alexally4406, on 01/22/2008, -3/+4I kind of agree with Sairgem. When I'm online it's always the people that suck ass that usually complain. Not saying that you suck at Halo or anything cause I don't really know but, come on........ Your making it sound like your bullets are somehow weaker than everyone elses. Come on man.
        • TheBEAST205, on 01/22/2008, -3/+2I agree. There is no weapon in the game which takes more than one magazine of ammo to kill some one with. I suggest you need to buy some skillz, but that's just me...
        • MikeGrenade, on 01/22/2008, -0/+5If their performance is supposedly getting crippled by lag, how can you gauge their skill? Doesn't make sense to me.
          So much goes on in the space of milliseconds in Halo--especially with the damn shotgun--that can easily be lost to even optimal network latency.
        • jayfish, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1I'm not complaining at all. It's just not my style of play. I actually like the single player a lot more MP.

        • renegadeafk, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1Not my fault, the game cheats
        • s1mph0ny, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1Plasma pistol.
    • BriscoeJr, on 01/22/2008, -1/+0Couldn't have said it any better myself.
    • Varz, on 01/23/2008, -0/+3The problem is the playing field doesn't stay level with the rpg system.
      I like TF2 better at least everyone has an equal chance no perks and better weapons if you've been playing longer.
  • NaziHatinChimp, on 01/22/2008, -9/+42Some think that the cucumber makes the better pickle.
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -18/+4Shouldn't you say that the other way around... since a pickle is a cucumber and not vice versa?
      • unloud, on 01/22/2008, -12/+5Uh....What are pickles made from?

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_cucumber

        That's right....cucumbers.
        • roosterjm2k2, on 01/22/2008, -2/+11You just linked to "Pickled Cucumber". A pickle is any vegetable preserved in a vinegar/brine. Those less popular, Carrots, Celery, Peppers, Chillies, onions....etc, all make great pickles...and the term "Pickle" applies to all of them.
          • Iknockstuffdown, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1A pickled cucumber, most often simply called a pickle in the United States and Canada....
        • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -4/+2Unload you just agreed to what I just said... but it seems like you were tryign to prove me wrong
        • Dylson, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2Your link fails and so does your comment. Good day, sir.
    • KuJo6784, on 01/22/2008, -1/+12It's a Chappelle's show quote.
      • ShugNinx21, on 01/22/2008, -0/+17The Chappelle's show quote is: "Some people think cucumbers taste better pickled."
  • jimbojim, on 01/22/2008, -41/+120It's cool to hate on Halo, so let's ignore the fact that Halo 3 came out 2 months before Call of Duty 4.
    • CreateHavok, on 01/22/2008, -7/+57It also sold more. Microsoft wouldn't want you to forget that.
      • Listor, on 01/22/2008, -16/+10to bad its just halo 2 with a few extra's
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -19/+7Uh... hmm... wasn't Halo 2 the biggest game on XBOX Live until Halo 3 came out? There were lots of multiplayer games that came out in between, but pretty sure nothing topped Halo 2 until Halo 3. So don't see your point in this...
      • TheWorm, on 01/22/2008, -5/+21Gears of War surpassed it way back in 2006.
        • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -6/+3Ah, thank you. I forgot about that.
    • turbod33, on 01/22/2008, -15/+9Agreed. I don't see why everyone hates on Halo3 so much. Just because they came up with cool ads and hyped the game a lot? The multiplayer is fantastic for a console game, with the online stats, big amount of playlists, the forge editor and custom maps, and the enhanced matchmaking usually makes for really close, fun games. I still play this game all the time, and still learn new tricks and have fun.

      I think people play it, and then peak, and then just give up on the multiplayer. Plus there's all the idiots on XBL, but those creeps are in every game.
      • Birdoftruth, on 01/22/2008, -3/+7its the same thing as before.
      • EXreaction, on 01/22/2008, -2/+9WIthout a custom games browser forge is as good as useless unless your friends list is filled with hundreds of people just so you can play a custom game and invite them.
    • Hoov, on 01/22/2008, -1/+4Yeah, and I'll bet Bungie's stubborn and unwilling attitude to fix their playlists only helped COD4.
  • UNSCleric, on 01/22/2008, -59/+12Halo 3 will take it back in a matter of weeks and will not be topped by another Call of Duty rehash ever again.
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -6/+36Wow... let me get this straight... You had a sentence with Halo 3 in it, yet it was ANOTHER game you were calling the rehash? Wow... that takes balls...
      • Shiftgood, on 01/22/2008, -3/+2ehhhh... im gonna agree with UNSC. COD4 is fun now (and it is a good game). but Halo 3 is perfect. The thing most people on digg dont see is how well the game is balanced and how thought out the maps and weapons and spawning strategies are. Throw in instant replays, DLC, rocket race and custom armor... i think its pretty freakn sweet.

        Everyone is looking just at the surface (oooh, i got super impact bullet superpower, and dead silence super power... what an amazing step in videogame history). They fall victim to gimmicks...*ahem ... crysis*. If youre an old school gamer, you know its not gimmicks or graphics that make a game classic (Super Streetfighter II). Look at the fighting style of H3 and COD4. I think you'll find that H3 is going to last.

        p.s. i gotta give it up for portal too... not that its part of this conversation.... just sayin is all.
        • cplex, on 01/22/2008, -0/+3You've obviously either: never played COD4 or you just plain suck at it. I was a BIG time Halo fanboy, had been since HALO:ce; however, I realized, rather quickly, how wrong I was. COD4 is amazing, plain and simple.
    • Aiwanei, on 01/22/2008, -4/+21Also how is Call of Duty 4 a rehash. new setting? check! new maps? check! new multiplayer features? check! so what did they rehash exactly, the name?
      • Del129, on 01/22/2008, -2/+11don't forget its not WWII anymore, the biggest change.
        • moskaudancer, on 01/22/2008, -2/+1The biggest change for me was the fact that most of the primary weapons are automatics. There were what, like 4 or 5 machine guns in CoD2? And yet the game (4) feels as if it were made for autos, which I guess it is, as the engine's proprietary.
        • Aiwanei, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1That is what I meant by a new setting. World War II = a setting.
    • Tebixan, on 01/22/2008, -8/+3It seems to me that Halo/2/3 are all more different from each other than the dozens of WWII themed games out there.
    • Synn, on 01/22/2008, -3/+6So let me get this straight....CoD 4 is a rehash despite changing it's setting, time period, weapons, and changing it's multiplayer structure. While Halo 3 is not depsite being exactly like Halo 2 with only a few new weapons and vehicles and looking only a little better. Perhaps you don't know what the word rehash means.
    • SnuKs, on 01/22/2008, -3/+3This guy just got pwned more times with his comments than he does in H3. Im a big H3 fan, but I gotta give it to COD4.
  • mrfreeziexp, on 01/22/2008, -15/+188Congrats to CoD4 and Infinity Ward, they definitely earned this.
  • tehviruss, on 01/22/2008, -42/+14Oh my god, Call of Duty 4 overtook Halo 3 FOR ONE WEEK! SOUND THE ALARM! But seriously, this means nothing until is happens multiple weeks in a row. Let's see what happens next week.
    • ahatter, on 01/22/2008, -16/+3Even if it does happen muliple weeks in a row it still means nothing.
      • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -8/+2Hmm... interesting theory. Please explain your philosophy on this matter... I mean he didn't say
        "multiple weeks in a row before Halo comes on top again" but simply "multiple weeks in a row" which I took to mean that if it continues to get more players multiple weeks in a row then that may mean it is on top of Halo 3 to stay...
  • StingerMS, on 01/22/2008, -24/+74I'm really proud to see this. I've never been a big fan of the Halo series since the original. WAY too overhyped. Call of Duty 4 is an amazing, well-built game and I'm proud to see it top it. Let's hope it stays that way.

    On a side note, I'm glad to see Rock Band FINALLY hit the top 10.
    • supremesonic, on 01/22/2008, -3/+18Rock Band would be higher if it was out in Europe.

      You hearing me, Harmonix?

      YOU HEARING ME?
      • SwedishNinja, on 01/22/2008, -4/+17No, go back to your tea and crumpets and National Healthcare or whatever you Europeans do for fun.
        • supremesonic, on 01/22/2008, -0/+12Jolly good comment, old chap, jolly good. Right-o, I'll be off for tea and crumpets then, my good fellows. Toodle-pip!
    • damanh4x, on 01/22/2008, -21/+3CoD4 is not even close to halo 3, after i played CoD4 for 30 minutes i got boerd of raping everyone. Halo 3 is actually fun
    • Dwebtron, on 01/22/2008, -6/+2rock band is the only 360 game I've played for more than a month since gears of war. Maybe it's just my preference for my PC or wii vs my 360, but could it also be the repetitive nature of all console fps's?


      (note: I have cod4 on pc and do play it quite frequently... I suppose my own theory is already wrong?)
    • NoodleGuy, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2Rock Band is fun online, but I mostly play it using local multiplayer. I'd be willing to bet that's why it's not consistently in the top 10.
    • rjbourc, on 01/22/2008, -1/+1Why are you proud? Did you code COD4?
  • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -28/+66I predicted this months back when someone said it would never happen... not for a week or a even a day, they said it was impossible. Its not.

    COD4 is by far a superior online multiplayer game. And pretty much everyone knows that. Hell sales of COD4 will eventually overtake the overhyped Halo 3. Know why? Because people who are just getting a 360 are NOT buying Halo 3, but buying COD4. Why? Because the word of mouth... pretty much COD4 is getting the rep for being one of the best mulitplayer games of all time and an incredible single player campaign to boot while Halo 3 is getting the rep as being a good game, but thats it... that the whole hype surrounding it is unwarranted. Hell even those that gave it high reviews laughed when asked if it was a Game of Year candidate. Thats the other thing, most places had COD4 in running, only losing out to Galaxy maybe.... Halo 3 was hardly in the running anywhere.

    • GauchoCoder, on 01/22/2008, -4/+11Damn, that is crazy how you 'pretty much' predicted this! Please tell us what's going to happen next Nostradamus!
      • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -6/+3Ok. COD4 will go on to outsell Halo 3 in total sales.

        I love how everyone is like "duh its not that hard to predict, its a newer game! When um... COD4 is 2 months old itself. I mean really... maybe if this happened back in November or early December the latest you could say its the "new" factor. Now its just the "world of mouth/new 360 owners wanting this over Halo" factor. And also how come a few months ago when a few of us said this will eventually happen, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY said no no no, COD4 will never have more players online then Halo... never, not for a week, not even for a day... Now those same peole are saying "well its newer, its obvious it would have more people."

        You guys make no sense.

        Face it, this is the beginning of the end of the Halo love. The 12 year old fanboys grow old and fall out of love with it.
        • prisonx2, on 01/23/2008, -1/+2KingGoonie, you are by far the most idiotic person on Digg, and every time I read one of your many uninspired comments, I seriously question the intelligence of the average 'digger.'
        • sharpie05, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1Since when are you an expert? I agree with prisonx2.
          By the way, I didnt hear anything about COD4 from anyone. I bought it a few weeks after it came out because i like the series.
          Nobody cares about your predictions, and you are horrible at detecting sarcasm.
        • s1mph0ny, on 01/23/2008, -0/+2Why thank you, Captain Obvious.
        • KingGoonie, on 01/23/2008, -1/+1Sharpie.. I knew it was sarcasm.... I still chose to answer it. God damn some of you are fools... Later on in that post its pretty obvious I knew it was sarcasm
    • visceroth, on 01/22/2008, -5/+6lol so you predicted this? hmmm my prediction is COD4 will not be the top game forever! woot I'm almost guaranteed to win that prediction. Plus When did Halo 3 come out? oh yeah SEPTEMBER. It held the #1 spot for 4 months! how can you even call that "overhyped"? to me that is successful. Halo 3 isn't going to be the #1 game forever but for you to come on here and spew out crap like that is ridiculous. Don't go sucking the COD4 penis until you see how long it holds onto that #1 spot.
      • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -5/+1Um... read much? listen to podcasts much? Or your older then 15 friends? ALMOST EVERYONE says Halo 3 is overhyped.
        • Sh0ck4, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2DAMNNN i didnt know that "everyone" was digg users only. STFU and don't just think your game is the best and thats it
        • sowhat5828, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2So if I try and sell something i have by advertising it and getting the word out that makes it over hyped... man if thats the case almost everything is over hyped.
        • WillisRR17, on 01/23/2008, -0/+0You have no friends if you listen to podcasts.
        • KingGoonie, on 01/23/2008, -2/+1I have no friends because I listen to podcasts on Fridays in the drive in to work because Howard Stern takes off that day? hmm.. interesting mr "I play Halo 5 hours a day"

          And Shock, stop taking my line, that line I used like 50 times on digg already. And, again READ PEOPLE, I didn't say on digg, I said ON BASICALLY EVERY GAMING SITE AND PODCAST AND POPULAR OPINION TO BOOT.
    • Gezza, on 01/22/2008, -2/+0Hell!
    • joegibes, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2Sure, Halo has nearly (if not) the best multiplayer experience on the 360, and the Forge and Theatre (and all sorts of polish and useful features), but the campaign sucks balls. CoD4 has similar multiplayer (nearly, if not, the best) but (being a CoD game) it has an amazing campaign as well.
    • PopovIsovSerov, on 01/22/2008, -0/+0i will admit that the campaign on halo 3 isnt very new, its alot like 1 and 2, however, if you read the books or saw the end of 3 you would kno that there is alot more coming
    • WillisRR17, on 01/23/2008, -0/+0Congratu-effing-lations on your prediction. I'd like to see some hard evidence of critics laughing at Halo 3, though. Oh wait, there isn't any, because you're a ***** fanboy.

      P.S. The hype surrounding the final game of the most popular and best-selling video game series in history is unwarranted? Really?
      • KingGoonie, on 01/23/2008, -2/+1P.S. Its not the most popular NOR the best selling video game in history. Its not even close. Wanna recheck that. And yes the sales and love are unwarranted, and mostly come from those under 16.

        Hard Evidence? Game of Year choices. How many, if any, are Halo? Alot more are COD4. Go listen to the ign podcast a few weeks back, when the 360 team says "oh wait did we forget a game that might win it.. Halo? Yea... that was left out on purpose" with everyone laughing. And this is the 360 team before you say its another systems fanboys.

        And thats just an example.
    • sharpie05, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1I think youre awesome. Keep of the good work(rolling eyes here)
    • Qumahlin, on 01/23/2008, -0/+2You truly believe people are skipping buying Halo 3 to buy COD4? Well i'm no psychic but I predict those same people go back to the store the next week when they have more money and buy Halo 3. You do realize Halo 3 isn't just a multiplayer game right? It does have a pretty good story line if you followed the games and most who own it have played through the single player game atleast once
      • KingGoonie, on 01/23/2008, -2/+1Halo 3 has a good single player experience. Not great. The last few levels pretty much sucked, though the jeep riding at the end was pretty sick.

        COD4 story in single player blows Halo 3's story away. COD4 single player overall blows it away.

        Its just a much better game then Halo 3. Hell Halo 3... well you can kinda tell Bungie thinks they are a little bit better then they really are, that there skills as storytellers and gamemakers are phenomenal when its not.... the story was ok... but not as great as they think it was.
  • slicecom, on 01/22/2008, -49/+43Finally something topped that over-hyped piece of crap called Halo.
    • HBNDonut, on 01/22/2008, -12/+23Hi there. Please let us all know about the rediculously amazing games you are playing that justifies calling Halo "a piece of crap" because I am having difficulty seeing what is so bad about it...
      • DarkShroud, on 01/22/2008, -12/+3Yahtzee can explain it to you here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/edit ...

        Also, had the story lines from Halo 2 & 3 been put together in one game in at least 720p I don't think Halo would be getting as much crap. As they currently are the games are way over hyped. My brother and I bought Halo1 for the xbox for 2 reasons 1) We wanted something to play 2) We heard good buzz. People who come from PC gaming that are used to lan battles and dedicated servers see nothing special about Halo.
      • slicecom, on 01/22/2008, -9/+14Bioshock, COD4, Portal, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Mario Galaxy, Uncharted and Resistance are a few amazing games I'm playing that when compared to the Halo series, make it look like a piece of crap.
        • HBNDonut, on 01/22/2008, -5/+8Those are all very good games and I own or have owned most of them at one point but I wouldn't say that any of them are as involving as Halo 3's multiplayer. Especially not Resistance. I think you must just dislike Halo for whatever reason because if those are the kinds of games that you like, I can't understand why you would just plain hate Halo. It's a decent game.
          • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -10/+4Key word was the last one. Its decent. 7 out of 10... all those games he listed are way better, but thats not the point. The point is that Halo is treated like its the next coming of Christ, and now.. people are finally realizing its not.
          • Radan, on 01/22/2008, -2/+2Though, what's even worse is that just because of that, almost as many literally hate Halo with all their hearts and calling a "piece of ***** game" and similar. In my opinion, neither of those groups are better than the other, nor correct. Halo 3 was a really good game, and I enjoyed playing it alot (not as much as I liked Halo:CE when it was new, but it was still way better than Halo 2 in every possible way), and overall I thought it was a kind of a nice conclusion of the Halo trilogy. However, I think COD 4 is a much better game, and I would take it over any Halo game without hesitation. COD 4 simply has better feeling over it, and it doesn't punish you for losing in the same degree as Halo does.
            What I'm trying to say is that people seriously need to stop criticizing things solely to disagree with what other people think about the product, e.g. if someone likes x, then you are cool, alternative and independent if you hate x with passion. You might not like it, sure, but at least show some understanding that some people might not share your opinion, which DOESN'T necessary make them comparable to retarded monkeys.
        • BrewBeau, on 01/22/2008, -4/+3Those are great games and they bring something new to the table, which is what Halo3 didn't do. However, Halo is much more polished and nobody holds a candle to halo's matchmaking engine. In COD and GoW, the whole match gets shut down when the host leaves. The host could have the worst connection of all the players. On Halo, I don't think I've ever been booted from my party trying to join a game, when, on COD, it happens almost every other time.(that could just be Live issue, though) Anyway, I refuse to jump on a hater bandwagon just because I want to be a slave to trends.
          • DarkShroud, on 01/22/2008, -3/+1"nobody holds a candle to halo's matchmaking engine"
            COD4 certainly does.
    • truspect0r, on 01/22/2008, -15/+5Watch your mouth bro. Wait for HALO wars then you'll know.
      • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -8/+5Lol... do you realize that 90% of the 12 year old Halo fans think Halo wars is another FPS? I think that says something...
        • P3dr4m1, on 01/22/2008, -3/+2Where did you get that figure?
          • slicecom, on 01/22/2008, -3/+480% of statistics are made up on the spot.
          • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -6/+1From hearing them talk about it on XBOX live actually.
    • roosterjm2k2, on 01/22/2008, -2/+24Or, you can try not being a Douchebag and enjoy Multiple games...you know...you dont actually have to pick favorites...you can enjoy them all and leavy your fanboyism at the door.
      • slicecom, on 01/22/2008, -10/+7I do enjoy multiple games, the Halo series isn't one of them. It's an average FPS that has been hyped to insane levels. It's nowhere near as good as most make it out to be. Bioshock and COD4 are examples of great first person shooters.
    • Synn, on 01/22/2008, -3/+2I wouldn't call Halo a piece of crap...but it's singleplayer is very average and it's multiplayer is decent...it definitely has issues and CoD4 is just better in that area.
  • navster15, on 01/22/2008, -13/+7From what all the fanboys in this thread are saying it seems like everyone is playing Call of Duty 4 and the Halo 3 playlists are empty. That simply is not the case. In both games there are more than enough players so that you can find a decent match. To the average player this news means nothing. Get over yourselves and just play whichever game you prefer.

    Nevertheless, kudos to Infinity Ward, as this shows that 3rd party devs can thrive on the 360.
  • Autofac, on 01/22/2008, -28/+162Hardcore Halo nerds are some of the most angry, bitter and arrogant gamers I've ever met.
    • pcpimpster, on 01/22/2008, -4/+58Ever play a game called Counter Strike? There is some angry nerdlings on there too.

      • Dylson, on 01/22/2008, -5/+12None as bad as halo, though. Take this from someone that has been playing since the early days of 1.6.
        • makkaveli19, on 01/23/2008, -1/+1wtf, 1.6 isn't early!
        • jedikv, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1LOL all the way back to 1.6? I ve been playing since 1.3 and even that is still pretty late.

          BTW I bet if a Mic was fitted to every CS player we would hear the same douchebaggery we hear on live.
    • Del129, on 01/22/2008, -8/+3true that
    • Tebixan, on 01/22/2008, -7/+24These Halo haters seem pretty bitter and arrogant too

      Anyone getting pissed off because of how much someone else likes a video game is a little ridiculous.
    • DiggUmFrog, on 01/22/2008, -0/+9Every game has a bunch of A-holes. Its not just Halo
      • DarkShroud, on 01/22/2008, -1/+3Since Halo is stuck up it's own ass it tends to attract a greater amount of assholes than other games.
        • jedikv, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Reading through some of the comments here have shown there are some real jerks from the CoD4 camp too.
    • sowhat5828, on 01/22/2008, -0/+5Thats because its the only shooter their mommy will let them play.
    • EvanWindsor, on 01/23/2008, -0/+2Hard core anybodies are angry, bitter and arrogant. Fascists, Terrorists, politicians, etc.
  • TheWorm, on 01/22/2008, -31/+13I prefer Halo online because it feels less like I'm in an actual war zone. I get depressed when I play Call of Duty 4, I see that sort of stuff on the news, and I don't want to feel like I'm actually in Iraq. If you want a war simulator then I guess Call of Duty 4 is great, but I like a game that doesn't take itself quite as seriously, and doesn't try to recreate something like war. I played through Call of duty 4 and it was fun, but for me, saturated colors>washed out. Just my opinion, play what you like.
    • Lord_oftheTrons, on 01/22/2008, -1/+4Reality's a bitch eh?
    • TheWorm, on 01/23/2008, -1/+3Only on Digg do fanboys bury you for having opinions of your own. "Oh you enjoy Halo 3? Sorry you can't, because I like Call of Duty 4."
    • jedikv, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Quite the opposite reason for me regarding CoD4. Although it looks realistic - it plays very very arcadey. The guns definately do not seem accurately modelled compared to say GRAW or Op Flashpoint.

      Still a fun game but no where near the realism that people keep praising it for.
  • doctorfungi, on 01/22/2008, -31/+207Lol @ HALO fanboys being pissed off at this.
    Lol @ HALO haters trying to rub this in.

    They're both great games for ***** sake :)
    • lemonbomb, on 01/22/2008, -8/+3Amen.
    • BriscoeJr, on 01/22/2008, -15/+1Yeah I know, except Halo 3 is slightly better.
    • stackered, on 01/22/2008, -1/+7Agreed. I was always a Halo guy over any CoD but the new generations of each switched places on my list now. Still play both, just CoD more.
      • PunkRampant, on 01/22/2008, -1/+1Me too. Halo was my first great FPS experience and it was loads of fun. But for me, the gameplay is just getting a little stale in Halo 3.
        CoD4 on the other hand, is so viscerally real and intense that I can't think of going back to Halo, at least not for a long time.
    • moush, on 01/23/2008, -3/+4CoD is for people who like playing FPS's. Halo is for people who like fuming online.
  • HBNDonut, on 01/22/2008, -16/+25This is surprising to me. Personally I thought CoD4 kicked Halo 3's ass when it came to the campaign mode. But as for the multiplayer I can't see what the big deal is. I just think that Halo 3 has a lot more freedom in the controls and more diversity in weapons, vehicles etc. than CoD4 has. After a few weeks of CoD4 multiplayer it was hard to keep it fresh for me. Good to see Halo has some competition though!
    • n3os33k3r, on 01/22/2008, -2/+5OMFG dude u summed it all up for us thank you! CoD4 has a hell of a campaign but after a week of the multi player its kinda boring rather get back on halo for PvP action:@!
  • dyranios2, on 01/22/2008, -21/+15Good. Hopefully Bungie will see they ***** up so much with Halo 3, compared to what it could have been.
    • eastbeast314, on 01/22/2008, -0/+6Wait...what? I can understand that about Halo 2, but Halo 3 is a pretty damn solid game.
      What should they add to multiplayer to make it more fun? I think they maxed out the features and 'golden-tripod' gameplay. The weapons are much more balanced than ever before, the Theater is a great addition, and Forge gives you all the gametype freedom you could want.
      And on top of that, the campaign was exactly what was expected: a fun, Halo-styled resolution to the story.
      What was Halo 3 supposed to be?
      • crawf061, on 01/22/2008, -3/+1More map would be nice. And don't make me pay to get them early when they should have been included already.
    • ericrous, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2Dude, they probably sold more copies of Halo 3 at one store than COD4 sold total. I seriously doubt they're losing sleep over the envy.
  • AvidPreatorian, on 01/22/2008, -23/+14BREAKING: Good games>Bad games
  • xXGeechXx, on 01/22/2008, -6/+26Cool, I actually still play COD4 online where as I quit playing Halo several months ago.... I think I played way to much Halo 2 MP for Halo 3 to have the same effect...
    • MaTT2011, on 01/22/2008, -1/+1that has a tendency to happen when the gameplay is close to identical....
      • s1mph0ny, on 01/23/2008, -1/+1The gameplay might be close to identical if it weren't for the noob AR. It makes the magnum useless, and overpowers way too many weapons.
  • SubaruPowah, on 01/22/2008, -19/+12The only thing Halo 3 has over COD4 is the replay mode, otherwise COD4 is better by far.
    • MrBeamish, on 01/22/2008, -3/+7And vehicles - that's something missing from COD4, but obviously hasn't kept people away that much!
    • BigBoyBoobs, on 01/22/2008, -6/+2COD4 is also better because it's on all 3 platforms. Everyone should be able to enjoy a game of this calibur.
    • fudsak, on 01/22/2008, -4/+5COD4 let's you replay the single player campaign in "Arcade mode" where you earn points for kill streaks and what not. I'd say that adds a ton of replay on the single player side of things.
      • eastbeast314, on 01/22/2008, -1/+4Not taking sides, but Halo 3 has the same thing (Campaign scoring), and I think Subaru was talking about the Theater, where you can watch recorded campaign/multiplayer sessions with a free camera and take screenshots and whatnot.
    • PopovIsovSerov, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1i like the leval roaming halo 3 offers, even on multiplayer you can go places you wouldnt think possible, on cod4 its just too mapped out for me, especially on multiplayer
  • SuperVepr308, on 01/22/2008, -29/+4In my opinion, Halo requires a vagina to play.

    COD:4 requires, well, a cod. I have a cod.
  • MrBeamish, on 01/22/2008, -4/+29Good on em - COD4 is a fantastic game. I've lost count of seeing the phrase "I haven't even put Halo3 back in the 360 since I started playing COD4 online. It's a blast.

    Not that it really matters - Bungie have made a huge amount of cash from game sales alone, but if they want to tempt more players back to playing H3 online, they might want to think about lowering the price of the downloadable map pack.

    COD4 has hit upon a very simple premise that has kept Nintendo in business for years - players like to collect stuff. Lots of stuff. The achievement system is so vast and addictive that it adds to the enjoyment of the game, as does not having everything unlocked right from the start of your online campaign.
    • munkyxtc, on 01/22/2008, -4/+6I stopped playing H3 because of the price of the new maps. The original maps got extremely boring after playing constantly for the first few weeks. I'll probably pop it back in next month when the update becomes a free download.

      I am currently hooked on CoD4 but IMHO both are fun games;I'm sure eventually I'll get tired of CoD4 and move onto something else for a bit. It's the never ending cycle of games
    • almostadesigner, on 01/22/2008, -1/+0Halo 3 has some good achievements that are completely impossible for about 95% of the H3 players to get without cheating. Bungie really thought it through only for the hardcore player.
    • jedikv, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1MS decided the price not bungie - similar thing happened with Epic and Gears
  • Tainek, on 01/22/2008, -6/+22Remember that COD4 is also big on the PC and the PS3, i am sure that overall COD4 has been selling better, and being played more online than halo3 ever was
    • watership, on 01/22/2008, -4/+8COD4 on all systems, didn't sell as much as Halo3. And at it's peak, Halo had about 5 times more players than COD4 had last week. T
    • unicronband, on 01/22/2008, -7/+4But COD4 PC and PS3 players aren't playing over XBL, hence they wouldn't be included in these numbers.
      • ArcSensor, on 01/22/2008, -6/+4Thats correct, overall CoD4 has many more players than Halo. More mature as well.
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -4/+3UHhuh.... This time next year how about we talk about the COD4 on 360 vs Halo 3 total sales again...

      Halo 3 had the big opening... but COD4 is having the even success month after month... which is always better. Just ask Titanics box office take.
      • WillisRR17, on 01/23/2008, -0/+0I will give you my left nut as a trophy if COD sales overtake Halo 3 sales within a year
  • rowlodge, on 01/22/2008, -4/+10i thought "quake wars" was gonna take over everything, guess not.
    • yohnstoppable, on 01/22/2008, -3/+9According to who? That game received a pretty negative reaction from everything I saw. Sucks, cause it wasn't that bad of a game. I thought it was decent, but came out at the worst possible time, right around Orange Box, COD4, and UT3. Gotta be better than decent to compete with those
    • pcpimpster, on 01/22/2008, -1/+9Quake Wars for the PC was ***** when i played the demo a few months.
    • heartless_, on 01/22/2008, -0/+2Quake Wars was a pretty disappointing experience. Fast action gameplay just does not fit into team-based objective games.
      • gfnw, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1The original Enemy Territory was perfect in that regard IMO. They should have stuck with the same formula, and just expanded it into a full commercial game.
    • Nerfdude, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1quake hasn't been the same since Q3A. 4 was a humongous letdown.
  • warchant, on 01/22/2008, -14/+6i could really careless one way or the other, but 2 or 3 yeas from now cod4 will not be at the top of this list....halo 3 will be

    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -6/+3No, it really won't... it really really won't
      • Tebixan, on 01/22/2008, -0/+6How long did Halo 2 stay at the top of the list?
        • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -5/+1Uh huh... but now we are at the beginning of the Halo backlash..
    • knightboat, on 01/22/2008, -1/+1http://www.incompetech.com/Images/caring.png

      The phrase you're looking for is "couldn't care less."
    • PopovIsovSerov, on 01/23/2008, -1/+1i still play halo 2...the halo games will last bc they are well rounded and wont lose the fun it origionally had, if you dont like it, youll never like it, if you liked it, youll never stop liking it
  • djones211, on 01/22/2008, -15/+9IMO... CoD4 pwed Halo 3. The online play with Halo makes it feel choppy and unreliable. With Halo the gameplay still feels the same in a sense. CoD4 is far more superior. Adding the progression feature is better than that of Halo. In CoD4 you are not just leveling up; you level up and unlock even more to the game. Rock out CoD4. *could this be the reasoning of the H3 being the last installment* digg(ity) - digg(ity)
  • xXGeechXx, on 01/22/2008, -4/+41I think if Halo 3 had a leveling system similar to COD, I would definitly have played it longer... that leveling system is by far the greatest thing including in an online multiplayer game.
    • SSCrow, on 01/22/2008, -1/+8The RPG Grind?
      • Hoov, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2But it's not really a grind. At least it doesn't feel that way. The challenges and the points they offer really help ramp up the leveling. Yes some of them are hard to get, but even if you didn't really use certain weapons early on it's simple to equip and run through those unlockables and accumulate a decent amount of points.
    • LordRedSnake, on 01/22/2008, -3/+5If only COD 4 had Halo 3's matchmaking, it would be great. That's one thing that I miss when I go to play any other online FPS. Halo's matchmaking makes it simple to quickly get into matches with similarly skilled opponents.
      • xXGeechXx, on 01/22/2008, -0/+3Indeed, I was hoping as part of the next-gen thing that Microsoft would make every company adopt the matchmaking of Bungie.
      • shmittay84, on 01/22/2008, -1/+1Are you kidding? Matchmaking on Halo takes forever sometimes. The longest I have had to wait on CoD was like 3.71 seconds.
        • jedikv, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Thats also the length of some games when the host quits.
  • chader144, on 01/22/2008, -4/+21Here is my issue with COD4... When I am having friends over I am not able to play on xbox live the same way I can with Halo. If they had that I might not go back to halo other then to give people a good no tactical thrashing.
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -4/+16That is the one and only gripe... I don't care when at my house since I only have the single controller.. but at my nephews we wanted to play, and everyone wanted to play COD4 but couldn't, and so had to give in and play Halo. My brother kept asking whats better, we all said COD4, he said well then put it in so we can play online, and we were like well... we can't...
  • watership, on 01/22/2008, -9/+38Let's see. Halo mentioned on the internet.

    Someone says Halo is over-hyped. Check.
    Someone says Halo is a bad game. Check.
    Someone mentions that Halo online is full of badly behaved children. Check.
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -12/+5All these statements are true aside from the middle (its a good game, just not great).
      Check.
      • Synn, on 01/22/2008, -8/+2Replied to the wrong person...bury this.

        They should really just add a delete comment option here.
        • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1yes they should, many times i needed a delete option as well.
    • Synn, on 01/22/2008, -5/+12Someone gets defensive over Halo. Check.
      • SPARTACVS, on 01/23/2008, -1/+1Because it deserves to not be ***** on. That is not a bad thing.
  • wire02, on 01/22/2008, -9/+28Come on Team Fortress...Orange Box FTW
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -0/+8I played that game once and left in middle of the match the connection was so horrible. I hear they have fixed alot since then, gotta try it again.
    • xXGeechXx, on 01/22/2008, -1/+17that game is way better suited for a PC
    • Synn, on 01/22/2008, -0/+3I can't even have a good opinion of fun it is since every time I play the connection is terrible. That's one of the good things about matchmaking.
    • weebs, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2Boo. TF2 is the most fun game out there right now, but meant for PC.
    • taintedzodiac, on 01/22/2008, -2/+2The problem that Team Fortress has is that it is very much based in fantasy. Call of Duty 4 just pulls in the crowd better because people can relate to it. I certainly can't relate to a Medic that runs around shooting needles at people. That being said, I enjoyed TF2, just not as much as I could have.
      • daborg, on 01/22/2008, -0/+3You want to be able to relate to running around shooting people in the head?
    • SuperVepr308, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1Valve does indeed rule.
    • BriscoeJr, on 01/22/2008, -2/+0I wish they made it for the 360. I've haven't had the privilege of playing TF2 yet, but I played the ***** out of TFC. When I heard about them taking the grenades out I was a little disappointed.
  • Tejiant, on 01/22/2008, -12/+8My co-worker has an 18 yr old son that was a huge Halo fan. In fact last year he spent all his summer working so he could afford an Xbox360 and buy Halo 3 at launch. So I get his gamertag and when Halo 3 comes out we play together. He's going ***** of how teh awesome he thinks Halo 3 is. I still have few more days left on COD4 beta. I told him "Hey man, I'm actually still part of the COD4 beta, and I think it's a much better game than Halo". He scoffs back "meh....military sim. Not into them." I tried to explain it, but he just brushed me off.
    This morning I come into work and my co-worker flags me down. He's like my son got into this new game called.....Call of Duty 4? And I laugh and explained how he blew me off when I tried to tell him that COD4 > Halo 3. But now I guess I will look for him on COD4 for some TDM and Hardcore. I played a total of maybe 4 days on Halo 3. Coming straight off of COD4 beta, I could not stand going back to Halo. oh and I also was one of the ones that bought a Legendary Edition with Helmet and all.
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -8/+4I bought COD4 a few days after the 360, as soon as I found out my brother and nephew had it. I was worried I would have to get Halo 3 even though I wanted COD4, because the only other game I had was Bioshock, and one of the things I was looking forward to was playing my brother and nephew online... if that meant getting Halo 3 instead of COD4 because they only had Halo 3 then so be it... Luckily they both had COD4. Anyway they were still telling me to get Halo 3 as well (Even though I had yet to see them playing it once as they were telling me this for a week) They even brought it over on Thanksgiving so I can play. I said yea... its just not that great...I have the same opinion as I did about the first 2 games (I know Halo wasn't online multiplayer, I meant the general feel of the game period)... But I had a gift card so I bought it. The only one who plays is my youngest nephew, who is 8. My older nephew and my older brother only play COD4. Actually no... when the new maps came out my brother was on Halo 3 for a week... then back on COD4. And now that my youngest nephew has his own gamertag, even he doesnt play Halo 3 anymore. The few times I have been on I coudlnt stay on for long. I mean the game just feels so SLOW compared to COD4. And the jumping... oh my God the jumping! What the hell is that? To make matters worse the Halo Jumpers as I call them are starting to infiltrate COD4... I even made a 2 line wrap about it... ahem:

      "I'm online playing COD4 and idiots be jumping around...
      This aint Halo Motherf*cka, keep yo feet on the ground!"
      • SuperVepr308, on 01/22/2008, -4/+0When I see those "jumpers" in COD:4, I make it my business to slam them in the dirt over and over and over. They quit that jumping ***** after about the 10th time they have had their asses handed to them. I suggest everyone do the same.

        • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1What about the other idiotic group on COD4. They started before the Halo jumpers, but there not as common now.... The "hey let me run full speed then instantly go prone in the middle of the street thats the centerpoint of the map and whip out my sniper" guy or I guess street prone guy for short.

          If that guy ever got a kill that way it was because everyone started busting out laughing uncontrollably out of disbelief at what the guy was doing.
        • bagelmaster, on 01/23/2008, -1/+3What the hell is so wrong with jumping? Jesus Christ people cry about everything
    • xXGeechXx, on 01/22/2008, -0/+6he must have been working for 2 bucks/hr if he had to work all summer to save up enough money and buy an xbox
      • crakbot, on 01/23/2008, -0/+3Most people don't save every penny. They save what's left after their normal day to day expenses. Plus, a system and a game is over $400, not cheap for a teenager.
    • Christbait, on 01/22/2008, -2/+5"Military sim"? COD4 is a freaking arcade game compared to Flashpoint or ARMA.
      • BriscoeJr, on 01/22/2008, -0/+0I personally still think Flashpoint is better than ARMA. They changed too much and now it's too much like counter strike. (when running) ARMA is still an awesome game.
      • Vzylexy, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1*balls up into the fetal position* Please don't remind me of Flashpoint, I don't enjoy getting picked off from 1000+ yards!
  • gvsurunner22, on 01/22/2008, -13/+2COD4 FTW MP44 PWNS MA5B
    • Christbait, on 01/22/2008, -1/+3MP44 sucks balls and I was gutted to find out that it did so, they didn't change it in any way. It was only good in COD2, the weapons in COD4 are too modern, fast and powerful.
  • THEMACGOD, on 01/22/2008, -7/+2Actually, my friend made a prediction this would happen... He also said no one would play Halo 3 if CoD4 supported split-screen multiplayer like Halo 3 does.
    (I said he was silly; people would play H3, but CoD4 would landslide it)
  • enforcerpsu, on 01/22/2008, -9/+3I am not surprised by this news. CoD4 is a great game, and offers a bit more variety than Halo 3. As a long time PC gamer though, I reserve CoD4 for my PC and obviously play Halo 3 on my xbox. Mouse and keyboard for military sims is my preferred method of control. Since Halo 3 has "idiot aiming" (aka monstrous auto aim) it can hold its own on xbox.
    • inajeep, on 01/22/2008, -1/+8Explain the variety part of the comment? Maps maybe? COD4 is a bit more addicting then Halo 3 but H3 has got it beat with Forge, stats and Theater.
    • repick3, on 01/23/2008, -1/+1Dugg for someone who also thinks Halo's autoaim is retarded... I CAN SHOOT ON MY OWN KTHX
    • jedikv, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1You clearly dont play Halo 3 if you think the auto-aim is that bad.
  • NeilCauldwell, on 01/22/2008, -5/+0Awesome game and an awesome result. I enjoyed Halo 3, but an Xbox Live session on COD4 made me feel like I'd just had a workout. Obviously this was a placebo - I was probably only getting fatter for spending hours vegetating on the sofa - but at least it felt like I was doing the right thing.
  • ChinezePanda, on 01/22/2008, -11/+6Good.
    COD4 is by far a superior game than what is/was the over-hyped poster child Halo 3.

    With more game modes. Ranks that actually let you get something besides just a number.... COD4 will be in my box for a very long time

    Hell its so good I bought it for both the PS3 and 360.

    Congrats Infinity Ward
    • saltinekracka20, on 01/22/2008, -1/+1Eh, I was with you until you said you bought it for both consoles.
    • markwilcox, on 01/23/2008, -3/+1You bought it for the 2 worst platforms =P CoD4 is amazing on PC.
  • Henwood, on 01/22/2008, -3/+6There's just more of a reason to keep coming back to it really, and that's what makes the difference. I just wish it had 2 player splitscreen online, like Halo though.
  • banido, on 01/22/2008, -2/+25Yahtzee should review CoD 4.
    • tooker, on 01/22/2008, -0/+12He doesn't review the multiplayer which is where COD4 (and most games) truly shine so his review for COD4 will be somewhat harsh I think. It is rather linear and can be frustrating on harder difficulties.
      • daEvan, on 01/22/2008, -0/+1For instance, the ferris wheel part of the stealth mission on veteran mode is impossible...
        • renegadeafk, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1I found it difficult, but definitely not impossible.
  • radink360, on 01/22/2008, -5/+1I've had the game for some time now. I guess I better go play it online.
  • Myst3r1o, on 01/22/2008, -3/+3For now.
  • Ev3nt372, on 01/22/2008, -8/+3Hell just froze over.
  • ericdrum, on 01/22/2008, -1/+7I think both games are great so I'm glad to see them both up at 1 and 2. I don't why some of you people think they are mutually exclusive. However in Halos defense, something special about it that I don't get from CoD4 is that wins and losses really mean something in Halo. Since you only get EXP when you win, winning becomes very important to you. In CoD4 you can do good or suck and it's not a big deal because you are earning your points regardless. In Halo wins are exhilarating and losses are tough to take. I also wish they'd add web stats to CoD4. I'd like to see my progress while at work or when I'm not on the console. Anyhow, I love and play them both.
    • SuperVepr308, on 01/22/2008, -2/+0Not true. If you don't win in COD4 it will take you until you are 80 yrs old to rank up. Winning or putting in a great effort is needed everytime you play or you are never going to climb up.
    • lemonbomb, on 01/22/2008, -1/+0Now that everyone is playing CoD4 i can finally make it to 50 : /
  • CollapseControl, on 01/22/2008, -3/+8I am a supporter of BOTH games, both have their perks for being an FPS in two different styles, 1 modern & 1 sci-fi.
    But I must say I am part of the reason why COD4 is on the top spot. I haven't really been into playing Halo 3 much since COD4. I enjoy Halo a lot, I think it has the best online features with Save A Film, ScreenShots, & full detailed stats. The only problem is Halo came with 11 maps, most which weren't that great. COD4 came with 16, most of which are good.
    Also most of my friends are into COD4 and considering how we literally destroy 99% of the people we play, i'm always logged in that game.
  • Barbarino, on 01/22/2008, -2/+4My only issue with COD4 is the points system. I don't like guys with 25 kills but 20 deaths. I'd like to see matches that are not private with death limits.
    • KingGoonie, on 01/22/2008, -1/+2I like the system, but it should be adjusted to account for what you said. THey kinda do that in headquarters (Just because you have the most kills doesn't mean you will be on top, it depends on who gets the headquarters, who destroys it, etc).

      There is nothing more annoying then playing team deathmatch with my nephew... He will end with 16 kills and 22 deaths compared to my 15 kills and 7 deaths and he will be yelling HAHA UNCLE JOE I DID BETTER THEN YOU HAHAHAHHA because he has 5 or 10 more points.... and I have to explain to him that no, no he didn't, I mean damn he got one more kill but 15 more deaths... But he just keeps saying I GOT MORE POINTS, I DID BETTER!

      Until I owned him on the one on one matches.
      • SuperVepr308, on 01/22/2008, -4/+0You are playing HEADQUARTERS...HE DID DO BETTER THAN YOU. Not every game is Team Deathmatch!t I constantly hear people say, "But I got the most kills!" when they lose. Yes, you did get more kills but that is not the point of the game. Is that so hard to understand?
        • KingGoonie, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1um.... you might wanna reread my post.. I said they kinda DO do that in headquarters where different things are worth points... and that you may not be the leader cause you have the most kills...

          I then when on to start the part with my nephew specifically saying TEAM DEATHMATCH.
  • ModernDayDarwin, on 01/22/2008, -7/+4Coming from someone that has never played Halo and never played Call of Duty..and would probably be considered "out of the loop" for video game news. Everyone I've talked to says Call of Duty is a better experience. Then again, I haven't talked to many of the "stereotyped" Halo 3 players.
  • reuscel, on 01/22/2008, -9/+5I have to say I sure was a little disappointed in Halo 3. COD4 on the other hand is among the best games out for the 360 right now. Shame on Bungie for resting on their laurels and putting out a carbon copy of Halo 2 with a few minor tweaks.
  • ovejon, on 01/22/2008, -5/+3I'm happy that CoD4 is getting more recognition and is being played by a lot of people. the leveling system is brilliant (and agonizing) and it motivates players to go back and play online just so that they can complete some challenges, get the guns they want to use or do prestige.
  • inajeep, on 01/22/2008, -2/+5I like both games and play them regularly you can fight about it all you want. Although it's more like 4 COD4 sessions to 1 Halo3 session. I do wish COD4 had more stat support and Theater feature like H3.
  • MasterBigsby, on 01/22/2008, -11/+2This is good for Call of Duty 4. It shows Halo is the only killer App the Xbox 360 has.
  • JNudda, on 01/22/2008, -1/+13As a player of both H3 and COD4, I find each game awesome and enjoyable in its own way. So while you can easily argue COD4 to be the best multiplayer game to come out in the past year (and I would probably agree), I think H3 is one of the most innovative games we have ever seen for a major console (Saved Films, Forge, etc). Plus, considering how long Halo has been out, I don't think anyone is surprised to find another game would overtake it in XBL. And just like Halo, COD4 has its own share of douches hahah.
    • TriplePlay2425, on 01/22/2008, -1/+1Halo 3 added some cool stuff like the saved films and Forge, but... that's it. The bubble shield and other "power-ups" are lame, and the energy sword parrying is lame. Oh, and they cranked up the HDR to about 800%. But it's not a Godly game by any means, and it doesn't really look a lot better than Halo 2. But the high HDR and the shiny-ness give the effect that it is. Call of Duty 4 is one of the most fun games ever, and the multiplayer is probably the best. Ever. And yes, because Halo has been out and it's super-hyped, that's why it SHOULD have overtaken XBL, and because it's a month or so older, more people have had a chance to get it and play. Call of Duty 4 just owns it, hands down.
      I'm not a Halo hater, it's a good game, but it's not incredible. But CoD4 IS incredible, and it's my favorite game, right under the HL2 series (including the episodes).
    • Darksoul, on 01/23/2008, -1/+0If you think halo 3 is most "innovative" you must be dreaming I can name like four series that blow it away just off the top of my head. Yeah CoD4 has its own share of douches but not even half as bad as the morons on halo 3. And it seems like your giving an excuse I hate to tell you but halo 3 and cod4 where not released that far apart of each other to make that much of a difference.
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