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Call of Duty 4- Some much needed change is on its way

joystiq.com — The changes are split between two groups: playlist and patch changes. The playlist changes are numerous, and really help to balance and perfect the online experience. Maps are being added to rotations, new playlist variations are being introduced, and some rules are being changed.

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  • Christbait, on 12/17/2007, -3/+67Excellent. Now people can pwn a little more efficiently when the Xmas noob invasion begins....
    • NaziHatinChimp, on 12/17/2007, -4/+3Yes

    • bradallen18, on 12/17/2007, -2/+28i'll be one of those noobs!
      • Chirp08, on 12/17/2007, -2/+5and ill be one of those pwning you
        • knetworx, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2....and I'll be pwning both of you. Unfortunately, it looks like I won't get as much sprint out of my P90 anymore. Delayed pwnage FTW!
    • mrfreeziexp, on 12/17/2007, -4/+33"Xmas noob invasion" needs to be an official term.
  • halohunter, on 12/17/2007, -27/+4The PC version is perfect as it is. No patch is needed.
    • Darcius, on 12/17/2007, -0/+10The only thing I can think of, is to have some way to remotely save your account like battlefield. My HDD died the other day and with it I lost all my rank points, unlocks and kits. A few weeks worth of XP all gone which sucks... but it is kind of fun starting over again, great game.
      • darrenpauli, on 12/17/2007, -0/+6Very positive of you.
      • xino, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1That surprises me because the Xbox 360 version of COD 4 does save that stuff remotely.
    • Racerx52, on 12/17/2007, -4/+2The PC version IS perfect, What could you want changed? Other than more maps, i can't think of anything that needs fixed.
      Hardcore mode needs to be more hardcore if anything
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -1/+1Except, the article doesn't mention the PC
    • knetworx, on 12/17/2007, -2/+1Yeah, perfect as it is. By the way, have you gotten patch 1.3 for PC? Here you go: http://tinyurl.com/2azwb4
      Halo players have been trained to overlook problems in games (since Halo doesn't fix theirs).
      Infinity Ward > Bungie
  • KingGoonie, on 12/17/2007, -6/+31I'm glad for all the updates but wouldnt say much needed... thats like saying the games current multiplayer is severely lacking, when it is one of the best multiplayer games. Ever.
    • brundlefly76, on 12/17/2007, -3/+4Its multiplayer is indeed very very good. I wouldnt say best ever as I am already starting to tire of it a bit, vs, say, Counterstrike or BF2 series where it seemed it just got better and better. For example, it lacks squadplay and vehicles like BF2:SF & BF2142 which really gave those games a lot of depth.

      I do wish also that the server browser was a little quick and reliable to connect. Seems like no one ever gets this totally right when a game comes out.
      • KingGoonie, on 12/17/2007, -0/+3Is the server browser slow? I never noticed it... Actually I thought it was quick, maybe thats from also playing the extremely inferior Halo 3 alongside it where it would literally take minutes each time I started matchmaking...

        Actually then again I did try to do old school the other day and it took half a minute or more before I switched back to free for all.
        • brundlefly76, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Its not slow to browse, its slow to connect - its deceptive because it counts 1...11 (?) while waiting to connect, but each number is actually 3 seconds, so it can take 30 seconds just to connect, and often does.

          On top of that, full games often appear as having one slot open, and very often connects time out for no apparant reason, even with a low ping to the server. This is the PC version anyway.
    • grgt1994, on 12/17/2007, -1/+2All it needs is a base assault mode with vehicles, then it would be truly the best ever. Long live United Offensive!
    • osbjmg, on 12/17/2007, -1/+12Ever tried having your friend over and connecting online on the same xbox? Not party friendly.

      Also, where's co-op? Perfect game for co-op on the xbox.
  • Treason, on 12/17/2007, -8/+9A Stalingrad map???
  • nicksawick1, on 12/17/2007, -11/+2Not that interesting.
  • tjdoom, on 12/17/2007, -2/+19http://fourzerotwo.blogspot.com/2007/12/call-of-du ...

    Link to the actual article.
    • Wamzlee, on 12/17/2007, -3/+4Too bad you can't read the font on the page.
  • nfulton, on 12/17/2007, -13/+11Want to make it REALLY revolutionary, throw some civilians in the game. Make it so you're penalized for killing them Make it so you can't tell by uniform who the good guys are. If one is going to play war . . . one should keep the rules that make it . . . . interesting.
    • AntzNZ, on 12/17/2007, -2/+11That's the kind of thing they've done with NFS Pro Street, made it to real and imo it sucks.
    • Luminoth, on 12/17/2007, -0/+6It's just a game...
    • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -2/+2You've devised the perfect way to make CoD4 completely unplayable. Congratu-*****-lations.
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1"Make it so you can't tell by uniform who the good guys are"

      So who do you shoot?
  • Charlatan22, on 12/17/2007, -2/+16ACOG fixing was so necessary, and the new kill cams look interesting (though i generally think they're kinda annoying)
    • AntBing, on 12/17/2007, -0/+7I watch them during the games that you can't respawn in. Watching them in the games with respawn wastes time I could be tracking down the bastard who shot me.
      • Scottie83, on 12/17/2007, -1/+7But watching kill cams will give you a good idea of where the people that shot you are, so you can track them. It helps eliminate campers that way.
  • MeatyVitamin, on 12/17/2007, -2/+41Can't wait for Christmas. All the 12 year olds playing this game will boost my K/D ratio considerably :D
    • topbravo, on 12/17/2007, -2/+3haha... thats what i was thinking
    • MOJIRA, on 05/17/2008, -0/+5Good to see you're interested in a challenge.
    • Cerebral, on 12/17/2007, -1/+1Actually will you even be playing them?? I mean technically I don't know what happens when you restart with Prestige mode but other than that you don't get matched with lvl 1-22 generally when you hit the 40s (at least I don't).
      Can anyone comment a couple questions about Prestige mode? 1. when you hit 56 do you go back to needing the old XP to hit 57 or is it like 56 to 57 should be (5000 + needed)? 2. Does everything unlock in the same way it did prior to hitting PM?
      • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1On PC there is no level matching. And that's the way it should be.
  • cslawren, on 12/17/2007, -1/+9Do these changes at all apply to the PC version? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only owner of CoD4 for PC who wonders this.
    • markwilcox, on 12/17/2007, -0/+11Yeah, we're getting the killcam changes and i think some new maps?
      They should make some new maps that are specifically for PC gamers, the default ones suck because they were made to be played on the consoles as well, just look at Shipment. 32 players on that map is stupid.
  • jask0, on 12/17/2007, -4/+21sweet.

    COD4 is easily the best XBL game out right now
    • seanc6610, on 12/17/2007, -2/+19It's pretty awesome on PSN too.
      • markwilcox, on 12/17/2007, -2/+13And on PC.
      • DarkSamus, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1my friend snagged one for $40 from someone today and we got to play it, this is a must have for everyone, i haven't seen customization like this
    • markwilcox, on 12/17/2007, -4/+20Ehm... COD4 is easily the best online game out right now
  • xsidekick409, on 12/17/2007, -4/+22How about splitscreen live so I can play with my friends when they come over! I do have friends!
    • AntBing, on 12/17/2007, -2/+12Tell your cheap friends to buy a system, then you can play online together.
      • topbravo, on 12/17/2007, -1/+7thats what ive been telling my friends... 2 of them bought PS3 =)
      • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -1/+1Same here, a friend bought a 360 just for COD4 caus we couldn't play splitscreen anymore.. COD3 was great for that.

        He did bring his 360 and TV last week-end which was pretty nice playing side by side
    • Wamzlee, on 12/17/2007, -3/+3Yes. Infinity Ward, I need this...badly. All my friends want to play, but there is only so many xboxes and so many televisions, and so many internet ports. Your regular splitscreen is *****. In fact, my I took my copy of COD4 to a friends house last night, and I had to put up with my roommate texting me asking where I am and if he could pick it up.

      I am sick and tired of taking turns. Please add this feature.
    • xino, on 12/17/2007, -2/+3The other day I tried COD 4 with 2 XBL gold accounts on the same X360 and then I had one in the lobby and then looked at the friends list of the one in the lobby to see what the friend who was also logged into Live on the same X360 was doing and it said he is watching a friend play Call of Duty 4. I then sent the one not in the lobby a game invite and then accepted it with the other and it said trying to join potential matches and then it said error unable to connect to host.
    • Mtown, on 12/17/2007, -1/+32-player Co-Op is all I ask. I mean in single player you always have AI team ates with you, just make one of those AI guys another human.
      • GerrardIsLegend, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Hell yes. I guess that they'd just add an extra person during the sniper missions? Doesn't really seem like that big of a deal to me.
  • sesstreets, on 12/17/2007, -0/+13Makes me want to go out and buy it.
    • bejayel, on 12/17/2007, -0/+7one of the few $60 game that has come out recently that i would turn around and pay $90 for. This game has so much replay value and itsfun as all hell
    • britkev1, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2I agree with Bejayel. It's well worth it. Just don't get discouraged when initially playing online. I almost quit playing because it's initially pretty difficult until you get some of the perks and weapons unlocked.
      • FriskDown, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1It's still waaaaaay more fun than beginning to play Halo online. Let's face it, if you haven't been playing Halo for years, getting started will suck ass!
  • KittySpark1es, on 12/17/2007, -0/+35Some of the more notable changes...

    Optimized Old School Experience
    * Added Unlimited Sprint
    * Doubled Magazine Size
    * Added Ragdoll Cam

    Additional Start Spawn Locations in All Maps
    * Added a minimum of 9 extra start spawns on each side of all maps.

    Optimized Sniper Rifle / ACOG Scope Accuracy
    * Sniper Rifles and ACOG scope accuracy improved due to fix.

    Addition of Host Migration
    * If Host of lobby leaves, all players will be deposited back to the lobby where next best host will be selected before new game restarts. Players will no longer be kicked out of game entirely.

    Added Kill Cam To Everything
    * Kill Cam view Added: Air Strike Bombs (Follows bomb from plane to target)
    * Kill Cam view Added: Grenades (Follows frag from hand to ground, then rotates to view target)
    * Kill Cam view Added: RPGs (Follows RPG from launch to target)
    * Kill Cam view Added: M203 Rounds (Follows round from launcher to target)
    * Kill Cam view Added: Claymores (Views from behind claymore until explosion)
    * Kill Cam view Added: C4 Packs (View from pack rotating to watch target)
    * Kill Cam view Added: Martrdom (View from grenade rotating to watch target)

    Updated Spectator "Chase Cam"
    * Change Spectator Mode: Switch between First Person and Third Person.
    * 360 Degree rotation around character you're spectating.

    Mercenary Team Deathmatch
    * Brand New Playlists: No Clans / Parties allowed.
    * Players who don't want to be matchmade with clans (or people in parties) can team up with fellow lone wolves and play some TDM.

    Hardcore Team Deathmatch
    * Brand New Playlist: 100% Hardcore Team Deathmatch Only
    • calibration, on 12/17/2007, -0/+6YES!
      Yay for Merc TDM and Hardcore TDM only.
      • hbwold, on 12/30/2007, -0/+0do you know how to do the 360 degree spectating, i can spectate from behind the person but i am not able to move freely.
    • Chirp08, on 12/17/2007, -2/+2unlimited sprint? I dont like that one, defeats the point of having the perk to make you faster.
      Updated ammo sizes hell yes, i'm beyond tired of running out of bullets on my m16, its my gun of choice and even though it only shoots bursts I constantly run out of ammo effectively ending my kill streak. everyone knows no gun is like your own gun, so picking up someone elses sucks
      • Trykt, on 12/17/2007, -0/+5Those changes are only for the Old School game mode.
  • Konrad9, on 12/17/2007, -3/+12How about fixing the spawning system, the martyrdom system (letting you explode even if you don't have any grenades?), or perhaps the strange ability of the helo's the fire 360* and see through solid buildings.
    • Ajajadude, on 12/17/2007, -1/+9I absolutely LOVE spawning right in front of guys on the other team and the fact that the damned helicopter seems to turrets all over its damned fuselage. As far as the martyrdom goes, that might just be that it's giving you an "extra" grenade that can only be used for that purpose.
    • TitanX13, on 12/17/2007, -1/+4they added 9 new spawn points to every map. also martydom is supposed to happen even if you have no grenades its is held just for it. also the helo's gun are on 360* mounts with flir and other sights
    • Chirp08, on 12/17/2007, -1/+3are hte 9 new spawn points behind the enemy too? the problem wasn't the lack of spawn points, itw as hte fact that both sides get spawned behind each other giving cheap kills. I spawned behind 3 guys yesterday, all facing away from me, that was so cheap, i still killed them but thats not how I wanna earn kills.
    • Cerebral, on 12/17/2007, -0/+3I agree whole heartedly about the spawning system being messed up and how the chopper is wicked compared to how the chopper was in the Beta (laughable... you didn't even care that you got one or that one was called out). I like the martyrdom system because it is an extra nade that is dropped as live.
      For me the biggest fix needs to be the spawning system. Fix that and I'm good.
    • FriskDown, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1If you think that dropping a grenade with martyrdom (even if you don't have any frags left) is weird, you should try last stand with overkill equipped. I don't know about on Xbox Live, but on the PS3 it defaults to the M9 since you have two main weapons selected.
  • Pake, on 12/17/2007, -4/+7I only wish they'd disable airstrike and choppers on the shipping yard map. ***** sucks once someone calls in the airstrike and all the sudden it just turns into airstrike after airstrike after airstrke. Splitscreen live would rock as well.
    • grgt1994, on 12/17/2007, -1/+5If you were on the delivering end of those airstrikes, you'd have a whole different attitude. Shipment rocks!
      • Pake, on 12/17/2007, -1/+4It's always fun to give than to get... unless it's presents!
    • Chirp08, on 12/17/2007, -0/+3Agreed, some guy had twice as many kills as everyone else last night (like 80+ compared to 40-50) because of that ***** and the choppers. It's too small of a map to shoot down a chopper, as soon as you look up youre dead.
    • Cerebral, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2I do agree that it does suck to get leveled on that map by airstrikes you don't get one after another unless you or your team sucks. I mean you only get 1 from death to death no matter how many people you kill. I would really say that a "cool down" time needs to be put on the chopper though. Those things just rape on that map as there is generally no place to hide and no time really to take it down.
  • postal21, on 12/17/2007, -1/+13Yeah this game is a blast. even on PC.
    the sniper mini-fix helped ACOG and sniper aiming... Id say next best thing would be to tweak the helicopters a bit, maybe fix some of the nade spam... meh.

    Actually, im really only sick of the "tactical realism" servers that all these people run... Stupid server rules you cannot enforce like "you must use your scope/sight at all times" "no running and gunning" "no bunny hopping/jumping" "airstrikes and helicopters not allowed"... seriously cod4 isnt realistic, so stop making it rainbow6.
    • drtyfrnk, on 12/17/2007, -3/+14And that's why we own 360s so we don't deal with this *****
    • TitanX13, on 12/17/2007, -2/+5yea hardcore mode is incredible. i dont want to go back to the main game anymore
      • FriskDown, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1It could be a little more hardcore...
    • grgt1994, on 12/17/2007, -12/+6". . . even on PC"
      Huh? The only way to play FPS is on a PC, with a mouse.
      • popfrogs, on 12/17/2007, -2/+3How quaint that statement seems these days.
      • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1No, it's not the only way dude. I personally prefer it, and would never play a shooter on the console that was also out for PC. But consoles are valid platforms for shooters too.
  • woofers07, on 12/17/2007, -1/+11Host migration is something I've been bitching about for awhile now, Halo 3 did it right. I started a game 15-0 a couple days ago and the host quit, I'm still not quite over it yet.
    • foldor, on 12/17/2007, -4/+5You aren't over it yet? Man it's a game. Get over it. Sure no one likes it when the host leaves but come on to stay pissed for over 2 days? That is ridiculous and you need to rethink your priorities if this upsets you that much.
    • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -1/+1It's never bothered me. Just go to another server. If you can't do it twice you can't do it at all.
  • rowlodge, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2still 8 players ? used to 16 in the beta, liked that before.
    • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Is the 360 version really limited to 8 players?
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+216 players is the limit on the 360. Where did you get 8 players? Only in Free-For-All does it limit players to 8.
  • metamorfoza, on 12/17/2007, -0/+13Much needed change?!?
    fix the server browser!!
    • PainToad, on 12/17/2007, -1/+3+1
    • popfrogs, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Does every platform except the PS3 have a server browser? Because I gotta say, the PS3's lobby is pathetic, and it's not Sony's fault. Both Resistance and Warhawk have near-perfect lobbies that make it easy to get into any game type you want. I never trust automagic matchmaking systems because, like Infinity Ward's PS3 approach, they usually fail.
      • MakinBacon, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2Agreed... in my opinion the best lobby system ever was on SOCOM II - broken into regions, allowed you to choose maps, create maps, create rules...
  • co0p, on 12/17/2007, -13/+3remove martyrdom entirely and the game is perfect.
    • topbravo, on 12/17/2007, -0/+6it sucks when you knife someone with that perk...
    • Cerebral, on 12/17/2007, -0/+4no... get the ***** out of there and quit bitching.
    • GliTCH82, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1Aww. Poor baby can't handle all the nades...
  • iStunT, on 12/17/2007, -4/+19Thank GOD for the sniper accuracy fix.. that ***** was so annoying when you would shoot someone and your crosshairs are definitely on them and the bullet misses.. GRR
    edit: PLEASE MAKE THE 50 CAL SNIPER ONE SHOT KILL ANYWHERE LIKE IT SHOULD BE
    • rowlodge, on 12/17/2007, -1/+5shot someone 4 times with that, no kill
      • rowlodge, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1no, dead center, no kill, good at it in halo 3, should of died, at least by the 2nd shot.
    • bluesnowmonkey, on 12/17/2007, -1/+3You neglected to mention whether you're holding your breath or not when your sniper rifle mysteriously misses. That fact leads me to believe that you just never figured out how sniper rifles work in the multiplayer game. You have to hold your breath and lead the target.

      And the .50 is already a one-shot kill if you get a good center-of-mass hit. If it takes you 4+ hits, then you're probably winging him.
      • daEvan, on 12/17/2007, -6/+1I think if he has a .50cal unlocked he knows how to play the game...
        • gremlinchief, on 12/17/2007, -0/+7You'd be surprised.
        • Cerebral, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Yea unfortunately this game is just about how much patience you are willing to have combined with how much time you can invest in playing. My buddy sucks but he is 46 because he plays all the time, he plays domination and likes to capture the objectives. With 10 kills a match he can easily rack up ~400 - 500 points/match. See where I'm going with this. But generally yes if someone has the .50 cal. they know what they are doing... or should I say if they are "using" the .50 cal. they know what they are doing.
      • ScottyDontKnow, on 12/19/2007, -0/+1lead the target? please explain.... like if he's moving i understnd, but stand still ?
    • extr3mer, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1They should also make desert eagles a bit more powerful. I shot a guy from 1 meter away right in the head and he didn't die, had to shoot him again.
    • hbwold, on 12/30/2007, -0/+0just go on oldcore or hardcore and it is 1 hit.
  • bejayel, on 12/17/2007, -0/+6making the server celection faster is awesome. I hated waiting like 5 minutes for a damn game
    • lorenzoamigo, on 12/17/2007, -1/+4Maybe they could throw in some spelling tips with that!
  • grgt1994, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2Is this the 1.3 patch? That one is already out. Or is this another?
  • osbjmg, on 12/17/2007, -0/+13How about group play online from one xbox? Or co-op mode (local or online)?
  • iamaelephant, on 12/17/2007, -7/+4Sigh. Looks like PC users are going to get shafted in favour of console kids again.
    • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Why do you think we are getting shafted? I don't like getting shafted =(
      • iamaelephant, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Because we aren't getting this patch, this is console exclusive.
  • SkepticJoker, on 12/17/2007, -0/+29How about getting some points for taking down choppers?
    It's gotta be worth something.
    • Cerebral, on 12/17/2007, -1/+4I've been saying this since day 1.
    • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Yeah, that would be nice. But at least you get points for the challenge.
    • ScionX, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Yea, 1st time I shot down a chopper & it gave me that achievement bonus I thought you would get it every time you shot one down.

      I was very dissapointed :(
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Yeah I shoot them down quite often because alot of people just disregard it and the whole team suffers.. Its worth at least one kill I think for emptying 3 clips into it..
  • martoq, on 12/17/2007, -0/+7Contrary to the first article. There are no new maps, they just added some existing maps into the rotations on certain game types.

    Very happy to hear about the kill cam add's and sniper accuracy was a big problem. Good to see a vendor that cares about their product for a change.
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1All maps should have been part of rotations since the beginning i think.. i didn't even know there were more maps until i changed the game type..

      All new changes are welcomed.. Glad they listen to the community about this simple stuff..
  • marmanukem, on 12/17/2007, -2/+1Now all they need to do is dump punkbuster, and build their own anti-cheat software. Seriously, my clan's server banned 16 hackers today. ***** rediculous. Punkbuster keeps more legitimate people from playing than it boots hackers.
    • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Punkbuster is pretty ineffective. All good cheat software is able to trick punkbuster by feeding it clean screenshots. If you want to see rampant cheating, just spend a few hours playing FEAR. You'll probably see at least one cheater in a pb server.
  • TheBigBad, on 12/17/2007, -0/+6I'd like to see ground war bumped up to 24 players and the rest to at least 16.
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1Not sure how possible it is on consoles but that would definitely be great.

      12 is just not that much
  • g00dbye, on 12/17/2007, -7/+1How many people had their hopes for news of Call of Duty 4 for Wii?
    • Chirp08, on 12/17/2007, -0/+4only for the knifing
    • Cerebral, on 12/17/2007, -0/+5I'm sorry but I own a Wii and a 360 and I would never want to see this game on the Wii.
  • Godmil, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1I'm still waiting until the Steam price becomes reasonable.... $82 is too much for any game.
    • Paramour, on 12/17/2007, -0/+6So you just buy the boxed version.
  • ClOlD, on 12/17/2007, -6/+0Eh. Only changes are for the online game. Who cares? You have to pay extra for that anyway. Haven't we paid enough already?

    They should make some new offline levels available via a free patch. For what it cost, it had a very short offline story mode.
    • accessviolation, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2If you have a PC you don't have to pay a ***** fee to play online. That being said, I don't really understand how you can have a 360 and not have xbox live. If I had a 360 it would be at least 50% for all the xbox live stuff.
      • ClOlD, on 12/27/2007, -0/+0Because if I wanted to play with a bunch of pre-teens I'd... no wait, I DON'T want that gaming experience.
  • frik85, on 12/17/2007, -6/+1 .
  • frik85, on 12/17/2007, -6/+1..
  • novemberdobby, on 12/17/2007, -4/+0There's some code for splitscreen in hte PC version. I've seen it.
  • Paramour, on 12/17/2007, -3/+1I wish PC had Prestige mode ;_;
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1It doesn't? Its not a big deal.. I did prestige once but don't think ill do it again.. its nice and all to have a "higher rated" icon but in the end, its just an icon. I was missing my 3xFrags for way too long
      • hbwold, on 12/30/2007, -0/+0i enjoyed prestige, it was like buying a brand new game!
  • Cerebral, on 12/17/2007, -1/+4Here's my .02:
    How about better stat tracking or something similar to bungie.net where I can go look at my buddies and see how many kills they've gotten with the .50 cal etc. Also the ability to at least see some fun stuff for our friends like their challenges completed etc.
    Some of the weapons need to be fixed as far as distance usability is concerned. I mean someone should not be able to shoot me "iron sight" from bridge to bridge in two hits (no headshot) on Overgrown with an SMG.
    Fix the spawning... the game turns south very quickly in most game types as you easily can push one team to spawn in one area and from there because of level designs it is easy to SK. I say that you setup a zone for these situations and if people from the team are getting killed in or around these zones then you random spawn all over the map. Also spawning either on top of or in front of (and likewise) someone from the other team is retarded. I understand that maps like shipment are small and it will happen but on larger maps it should never happen (to a degree).
    I would like to be able to play with at least ONE Create-a-Class DURING battle. You gave us 5 which I have setup for 3 permanant setups (one sniper, one close range and one medium/long range setup) which leaves 2 for testing of new weapons, perks etc. It's a pain that if I don't like a weapon or the new attachment I can't just take it off real quick etc.
    Please also make an option to be able to do a fast crawl. It's a pain that you either have to expose yourself or take 2 minutes to get from a door to a spot in the room you like because you inch along the floor so slowly. give me a crawl-sprint that puts my gun away but crawls me at 2x speed.
    Release a map pack or two soon... I'll pay!
    Don't get me wrong. I love this game and play the hell out of it. These are just the little things that drive me nuts with the game.
    • NeoTEKK, on 12/17/2007, -1/+1Wow. Agreed. Feel better now that you've got that out your system?
    • iamaelephant, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1You already lower your weapon when doing a normal crawl. Crawling should be slow.
  • totalpardo, on 12/17/2007, -1/+2be nice if they'd offer the release date.
  • barthook, on 12/17/2007, -3/+1I would like to be able to disable the kill cam (at least when I am a sniper). It truly sucks to find a great hiding spot, get a kill and then have someone come up behind me and knife me.
    • GerrardIsLegend, on 12/17/2007, -1/+0Claymores set up on the doors tend to help. Once you run out of those you'd probably better get the hell out of there.
      You're probably screwed eitherway on the very rare chance someone put on Bomb Squad.
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2One tip to being a sniper is don't UN-ZOOM after your shot for a few seconds, that way the victim will have a harder time figuring out where you are shooting from..

      Or just play Hardcore
  • CollapseControl, on 12/17/2007, -6/+0I'm not impressed at all with the update. They really need to add a playlist where parties play parties. I see that they added a playlist for people who play alone, which is fine for them, but overall it is dumb. This is a team based game, why not add support for the many gamers like myself who only play with friends?
    The game is great but i'm getting bored, it is too easy, every game i'm in we win. Simple as that. I'll have to go back to Halo 3 to get a challenge, and even then it is few and far between. In COD4 there is about a 5% chance i'll lose a match, but in Halo 3 there is about a 25% chance i'll get a loss.
    Getting back on track, there are a bunch of updates I would of like to see added, like friendly grenade icons not showing up on screen.
    ehh....
    Great game tho! Just waaayyy too easy to beat people.
    • NeoTEKK, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2I beat you yesterday.
    • BomanTheBear, on 12/18/2007, -0/+0Your penis must be huge. I can tell because of how good you say you are at video games.
  • matthafling, on 12/17/2007, -0/+7i wish host migration was in-game like Halo instead of kicking you back out to the lobby to find the next best host. still an upgrade from the current system.

    Also - and this is just random bitching - I hate taking a loss because I get thrown into a headquarters match where my team is already losing 200 - 15 or something horrible. I have the option to just bail on the game (and take a loss) or stick around for the remaining ass beating (and take a loss). Either way i'm taking a loss for something I had nothing to do with. I'm guessing this is just a "nature of the beast" type problem - but I've been getting thrown into these types of matches alot more lately. It's killing my W/L ration.
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1I totally agree.. if I was there from the beginning we'd be winning ;) Seriously though, there should just be a timer where if the game as started more than 30-60 seconds ago, then no more players are added. I guess then people would complain that if someone quits they are stuck with a smaller team which sucks too.

      Something that happens sometimes, you're in domination, the game launches with 5vs5.. then for some unknown reason, you end up being 7vs5 for the rest of the game as its 12 players max.. Not sure how this happens but ive seen it a few times. We've been able to manage sometimes but most times, you get owned.
  • fani, on 12/17/2007, -0/+3How about adding more maps and extending the freaking single player game.
    It was over in a flash.

    It was superb, excellent ( insert additional pro adjectives here ), but I want more longevity in the single player game.
  • Makasuro, on 12/17/2007, -4/+2So how does this affect the much superior PC version of the game?
    • BearinG, on 12/17/2007, -0/+2The article clearly started "I wanted to give you the heads up on a lot of cool changes coming to Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare multiplayer for the Xbox 360 in the month of December."

      So not sure why you had to post about your ubber l33t pc version.
    • Christbait, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1If it's so superior then why would you think it needs a patch?
  • NeoTEKK, on 12/17/2007, -0/+3Here a thought. Enemies shouldn't be able to see the red lasers from claymores (makes the Bomb Squad perk useless). Should be clearly visible to comrades though (i know it already is, i'm saying that shouldn't change). And um, once I put one down...why the hell can't I just remove it and relocate if I wanted to? It's it's not like I have 50 of them on me.
  • digjam, on 12/17/2007, -0/+1well. i still think the snipers need to be more precise..those damn things keep on moving and never hit the target.. the snipes in GRAW are much more accurate and fun to play.. and for GODS sake... unlock some valuable content while moving up in the rank ... not those friggin camos.....who needs them...

    The guns are not really interesting if you have played GRAW ... the guns here are less damaging and less accurate...
  • elmz, on 12/17/2007, -2/+0Is it just me...but I think the radar ruins the game...
  • bluenash, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1I'm still waiting for someone (read: Microsoft or Activision) to fix the "on board sound drivers" problem
  • Shewt3r, on 12/19/2007, -0/+0Seriously i have been playing the game since it came out and i was wondering when they are going to add some stuff and i like the new kill cam. but they should add an option to join no kill cam servers like on the PC.
  • hbwold, on 12/30/2007, -0/+0does anybody know how to do the 360 degree spectating, i can spectate from behind the person but i am not able to move freely.
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