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- Phocion55, on 12/15/2007, -13/+220In other news, apples outsell oranges.....thousands draw conclusions.
- Adonai, on 12/15/2007, -19/+155I'm not sure how to really interpret this. On one hand, Call of Duty 4 was on sale nearly a full week more than Super Mario Galaxy and available on a much larger install base (roughly 9 million 360's in the Americas vs. roughly 7million Wii's). Call of Duty 4 also has very high scores (like Galaxy, although perhaps not THAT high) and was very well received even when coming in a month chock full of tons of other releases and having to live in the shadow of Halo 3.
On the other hand, you would think that Super Mario Galaxy, Nintendo's flagship title for the year, would sell more copies. Don't get me wrong, it did well, and it's not like saying it was beaten by Call of Duty 4 is a bad thing by any means. But maybe this just shows us that Nintendo is really cultivating 2 different audiences at once: the hardcode gamer who salivates over more normal games like Mario, Zelda, Guitar Hero, etc, and the "casual" gamer who isn't really interested in these but does play Wii Sports, would purchase Wii Fit, maybe Forever Blue, etc. The fact that Mario put up nice numbers shows that the Wii is still able to sell high quality "normal" games and won't suffer from its more "casual" audience.
Personally, I find it much more interesting that Guitar Hero III sold more on Wii than it did for 360 (with the PS2 install base being so large, it was no surprise to me that it sold the most copies of GHIII). - ThinkFr33ly, on 12/15/2007, -6/+81CoD 4 is a great game, and is made greater by the incredibly addictive leveling system they use.
- inactive, on 12/15/2007, -7/+56knife + cod4 = massive win
- Noceous, on 12/15/2007, -4/+52The problem is that people who own the Wii aren't buying games. The attach rate (number of games owned per console) is around 3 whereas the 360 is over 8.
- smashingmonkey, on 01/24/2008, -7/+46Apples and oranges. You couldn't find two more different games, aimed at two more different demographics. Much more interesting is that COD4 for the 360 outsold the PS3 version by 3.5:1.
- goingtoalpha, on 12/15/2007, -4/+33Nintendo obviously need to get their head out of their collective asses and get busy on the Super Mario First Person Shooter!
- houndeyex, on 12/15/2007, -14/+42Anyone who has played Call of Duty 4 will tell you it's amazing. Anyone who's played the multi-player would probably rather do that than take the time to go to the store and pick of a copy of Mario. Call of Duty 4 is an incredible game. I'd say that's the reason why it's ahead.
- houndeyex, on 12/15/2007, -4/+30Everyone with a Wii thinks that Wii Sports will last them a lifetime.
- latova, on 12/15/2007, -1/+23In the end, who cares? Both games are successful, both games are fun.
- rishubhav, on 12/15/2007, -18/+39I don't think it means much, since you have to take into account that the "hardcore" gamers will have been salivating over this game for months and will have got it as soon as it came out.
For the more "casual" gamers on the other hand, they will probably eventually pick up Galaxy, but they weren't eagerly anticipating its release - that's what makes them casual.
Within a year, Galaxy will have had better sales... - jacksons98, on 12/15/2007, -13/+33PS2 is a great system, for people on a budget or for kids it can't be beat. It's inexpensive and has a huge library of amazing games.
Also Sony makes money on PS2 and both PS2 and PS3 are Sony products; so how is that bad? If you are trying to imply PS3 is doing poorly, try again because PS3 is outselling X360 worldwide. - Blue_Eon, on 12/15/2007, -5/+24Let me ask you this: What makes a gamer hardcore? The fact that he plays FPS? To me a ,a hardcore gamer plays all type of games and doesn't care about genre or platform. I hate how hardcore has come to mean "only plays Mature Shooters". That's what is sad.
- br0ck, on 12/15/2007, -1/+19IN THE US
CoD 4 sold 1,570,000 and was released Nov 5 for 25 days or 62,800 per day
SMG sold 1,120,000 and was Nov 12 for 18 days or 62,222 per day
WORLDWIDE
CoD sold 1,738,299 in 5 weeks for a total of 348,000 per week
Mario sold 2,540,871 in 6 weeks* for a total of 423,500 per week
*launched earlier in Japan - numbers from http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php - GenoBaby, on 12/15/2007, -8/+26Who cares... if you like it... buy it... if you don't...don't buy it. I bought both and I'm happy. Any one who hasn't is missing out on either.
- DeviantDragon, on 12/15/2007, -3/+21And Wii Play outsold Mass Effect.
- inactive, on 12/15/2007, -4/+21The cake is transcendent.
Groin-grabbingly transcendent. - afx1, on 12/15/2007, -2/+18wow
- Charlotte_Web, on 12/15/2007, -2/+16Really, it may have more to do with the audience for online multiplayer vs. the audience for single player mode.
CoD4's single player campaign is supposedly very short, but reviewers rave about the online aspect.
Mario has no online play; it's only a single-player adventure (or two person co-operative). - emjaymj, on 12/15/2007, -3/+17The people who make portal jokes when nobody knows when the people around them have no idea what Orange Box is are douches, not hardcore gamers.
- EtherGnat, on 12/15/2007, -1/+14Last I saw the PS3 had an attach rate of 3.58 and the Wii had an attach rate of 3.44 (-4%). That's hardly a significant difference, although it is anemic next to the Xbox 360s 6.59 (not over 8 as the parent claims). Given the 360 has been out twice as long, I'm not sure the Wii is doing that poorly.
- mattcoady, on 12/15/2007, -4/+16Do people even read articles or just come for the headlines? The outselling they are refering to is the 360 version alone. The fact that it's a multi-console game may even hurt the 360 total numbers because someone who owns x360, ps3, and pc may choose a non-360 version.
- cambob76, on 12/15/2007, -3/+15About 3 fiddy.
- whatthefu, on 12/15/2007, -8/+20"Casual gamers" like Mario and Guitar Hero type games. Hardcore gamers are the ones who make Portal jokes when there are people who have no idea what the ***** the Orange Box is. But the two can transcend.
- truspect0r, on 12/15/2007, -3/+14http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161479
1.6b loss this year. - BlueSkyfish, on 12/15/2007, -7/+18I don't know if that was a joke or flamebait or whatever, but you're about to get buried to hell. Mario is the original game for gamers.
- calibration, on 12/15/2007, -2/+13Read the article.
Call of Duty 4 (xbox 360) - inactive, on 12/15/2007, -0/+11Kind of missed the point, haven't you?
- Magee1205, on 12/15/2007, -2/+12 * Call of Duty 4 (360): 1 1.57 Million
* Super Mario Galaxy (Wii): 1.12 Million
* Assassin’s Creed (360): 980K
* Guitar Hero III (PS2): 967K
* Wii Play (Wii): 564K
* Mass Effect (360): 473K
* Call of Duty 4 (PS3): 444K
* Guitar Hero III (Wii): 426K
* Halo 3 (360): 387K
* Assassin’s Creed (PS3): 377K - Magee1205, on 12/15/2007, -2/+12Mindless zombies?
- truspect0r, on 12/15/2007, -12/+22The Xbox losing 4 billion bucks in 4 years is not a good sign for Microsoft.
http://www.joystiq.com/2005/09/26/forbes-xbox-lost ... - siddhartha1138, on 12/15/2007, -7/+17play the game, then comment.
- mrfreeziexp, on 12/15/2007, -4/+13Sony makes money when they sell those PS2s, right? How is that bad for Sony?
- InitialDMP5, on 12/15/2007, -8/+17I think you are wrong. Mario has outsold almost every game ever made. I don't think that Galaxy will be any different. Mario Galaxy is different that COD4 in that COD4 is more of a "flash in the pan" type of game. Yeah its hot right now, but last month Halo 3 was hot and before COD4 was Orange Box. Its like Hardcore gamers have severe ADD. They drop what was hot for the next big thing. They have no personal connection to the game and easily forget it.
Mario on the other hand is a proven series that has lasted for more than 20 years. While people are playing COD5 or whatever shooter is popular 2 years from now, Mario Galaxy will still be played and more importantly, still being purchased. - CheezIt9109, on 12/15/2007, -1/+10"Within a year, Galaxy will have had better sales..."
Should read:
Within a a few months, Galaxy will have had better sales...
I sincerely doubt CoD will stay on top for longer than *Halo 3*. Mario Galaxy on the other hand, will probably ride the top of the chart for a long, long time. Note the performance in Japan. It was not as well received as in America, but sales actually *grew* over time. - freehunter, on 12/15/2007, -4/+13Not really, considering almost every reviewer said the 360 version had superior anti-aliasing and the like. I;m not sure what developers seem to be hanging on with the PS3, it has much more potential than they are giving it credit for. There's no excuse for shoddy ports, similarly to the Wii (although not so much graphics as opposed to controls).
- jacksons98, on 12/15/2007, -10/+19PS3 is outselling X360 pretty much everywhere except North America. Also look at total sales. Microsoft sold 10 million units year 1 with no competition. Year 2 with competition from PS3 and Wii; X360 can't even break 5 million, PS3 is at 6million for the year and Wii at about 14million.
Year 1 sales for X360: 10million
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=93188
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/may0 ...
Total X360 sales: apprx: 14.56 million
Year 2 sales for X360 = apprx 4.56million - I'll say 5million though so you don't feel too bad - chaos7, on 12/15/2007, -3/+11where are the PC game numbers? COD4 rocks.
- MutatedNantuko, on 12/15/2007, -1/+9You sir, Shaflugi, are a liar and have never played WoW.
- ReXorcist, on 12/15/2007, -2/+10Wouldn't true "hardcore gamers" play every single game and not just FPS?
- ubergeek09, on 12/15/2007, -0/+7Any PC fps is better than the console version :p.
- mywhitenoise, on 12/15/2007, -4/+11#4 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PlayStation 2) -- 967,000
#9 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (Wii) -- 426,000 - Myonosken, on 12/15/2007, -1/+8You're a fine example of human life.
- SpeedyG, on 12/15/2007, -0/+7But what if I want 60 fps on my game of Super Bejeweled?!
- MutatedNantuko, on 12/15/2007, -2/+9Yeah, making an "inside joke" around people that are not on the inside is considered being a major Douche, not a hardcore gamer.
- siddhartha1138, on 12/15/2007, -3/+9The Xbox 360 has been out longer and has more titles released than the Wii, it would be more acurate to compare the Wii per console sales to the PS3 which has been out about the same amount of time.
- c0dy, on 12/15/2007, -1/+7RTFA. The article refers to the 360 version of CoD4.
- Ajajadude, on 12/15/2007, -8/+14Well, to be fair, that article is over 2 years old.
- CWal37, on 12/15/2007, -1/+7Hopefully a sarcastic remark.
- random12345, on 11/16/2008, -4/+10buried for grammar police.
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