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Battlefield 2142 Beta Hacked Already

digitalbattle.com — Apparently, EA/DICE haven ’t fixed the problems with the BF2 engine before starting on Battlefield 2142. What more can you expect?

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  • poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -7/+39well first off, there is no punk buster with 2142. Also, its a beta and meant to find bugs, add word of mouth, and hopefully get people excited for the full game. Too bad cheaters can't even understand that and have to win no matter what at a very buggy beta instead of reporting issues to make the game better.

    I can't even play the beta really because the cheating is way too obvious.
    • wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Can punkbuster check the shaders?
    • Darren07, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18There is PunkBuster enabled in the Beta, these hacks are alos present in BF2 today, and PB hasn't indentified all of them yet.
    • heartless_, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12PB does a great job on BF2 and its rare to find any hacks on the ranked servers.
    • AdamD, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3http://www.spawnpoint.com/filedetails.asp?gname=Battlefield2142_Beta

      If anyone is interested in the beta, don't know if it's a virus or not
    • BigBaRay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What sucks the worst about this is that BF series is an excellent faced paced multi player shooter that is a blast to play when everybody plays without hooks.

      In bf2 if you had more deaths than kills in a round on the ground you had a pretty good game. (Jets were easy to go 12 to 1 on KD ratio but at least you didnt have to hack). Staight up game for game you killed as much as you got killed. by the time your deaths included your friendly fire and arty deaths even the best players where just slightly above the 50 percent ratio. New players could join and within a few games they at least were able to get a kill or two and within a month ( once they knew the maps) they where competitive.

      It was all blown out of porportion cause vehicles ruled the battle field( especially jets) but all in all it was a good time.

      I hope we can find password servers that will allow the honest players to play each other. without the aimbots, wallhacks, or the chamelion skins.
    • leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I saw a hack on a BF2 RANKED server that allowed commanders to drop a hundred vehicles at once. Looks funny seeing them all parachute from the sky.
    • brink668, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Battefiled 2142 beta was terrible they have a lot of tunning to do teh weapon damage is horrendous i can kill people faster in BF2 unless thats not the point. but there are so many bugs granted its beta but i doubt there gonna be fixed.
    • Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"In bf2 if you had more deaths than kills in a round on the ground you had a pretty good game. (Jets were easy to go 12 to 1 on KD ratio but at least you didnt have to hack). Staight up game for game you killed as much as you got killed. by the time your deaths included your friendly fire and arty deaths even the best players where just slightly above the 50 percent ratio. New players could join and within a few games they at least were able to get a kill or two and within a month ( once they knew the maps) they where competitive."

      I don't know what you're talking about...my most used vehicle is transport (humvee/mec jeep..etc) and I have a 1.22 K/D ratio, rarely do I finish a round with less kills than deaths

      look up -=[MoB]=-D_X on bf2s.com , I'm nowhere near one of the top players...and I don't have a .5 ratio

      kicking ass without jet/armor whoring is easy as pie
    • ViceVirtue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Haha, a 1.2 kill-death ratio is nothing to brag about, pal.
    • Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wouldn't say I'm bragging...just making the point that the "top players" better not have .5 fragrates

      and hey, 1.22 is respectable...since 70% of my time is spent on foot

      I'm sure if I bought a $90 flight joystick and spent many an hour in a jet, or spend 400 hours in one of the tanks I could get it up to the 3+ that the top players actually do have ;-)
  • Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38Figures, BF2 is a cheat filled cesspool and Punkbuster is as useful as a crepe paper helmet. It's not as bad as Halo2 yet but if 2142 is shadered already there's no real hope for it. Cheaters kill games, it's sad that people get more entertainmet out of cheating then playing. Oh well, I can still be sure that I am a hell of a lot better then the cheaters and they know it, that's why they have to cheat.
    • BigBaRay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I agree. and donate the 5 bucks a month to keep server paid for.
    • jeolmeun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You don't think they'll have real world wall hack and auto aim in the year 2142?
  • bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I've been playing the Beta since the first load of CDkeys were given out, and I can tell you.. EA/DICE sure have a long way to go to bring this game up to par with BF2. The game is so jerky, confusing, and inconsistent right now.
    • kamikazecow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Isnt it comming out next month too...? o boy.. how is it inconsistant and jerky?
    • josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3is it all green and fuzzy and mossy?
    • bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19The game is inconsistent in that what you do to score in one instance will not work the next. For example, one aspect of the game is to assault/defend motherships called Titans. If you kill someone attacking your Titan, you are supposed to get a "Titan Defense 1+" point.. kind of like flag defense in BF2. But this doesn't happen all the time.. maybe 25% of the time.

      The game is jerky in that when you go to do something, your character doesn't actually DO it for about a half second. For example, sprinting. You push the sprint button to run around a corner to dodge incoming fire. But it doesn't happen when you want it to.. and so you die. Same with firing a gun.

      Another thing that pisses me off is that you earn "unlocks"... so I used one to buy the ability to have Frag Grenades. Does it work? NO. Other people have frag grenades.. but when I want to switch to my grenades, it doesn't work. WTF?

      And yet again, they have screwed up the server screen. When selecting a server to join, I look for the lowest ping possible. Ensures a good game. But EA/DICE, in all of their holy wisdom, have decided to replace the display of "72 ms" with different colored lights. So the only indicators of how good your ping is to a server are green, yellow, or red lights. How is this even remotely smart?

      And don't even get me started on the map system.. they screwed that up badly.

      Don't get me wrong, there are some cool things in the game. But as of right now, the bad FAR outweighs the good.
    • poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've played it a bit but I'm not really impressed. I Loved BF1942, Vietnam was a let down, and BF2 for the most part is still a really fun game. So far 2142 just doesn't do it for me. I understand its a beta and all, but when I empty an entire clip into someone and they don't die it's time to turn the game off.
    • Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"EA/DICE sure have a long way to go to bring this game up to par with BF2"

      bringing it up to par with BF2 isn't saying much in itself...

      if a game has a long way to go before it crashes multiple times a session, randomly disconnects half the people in a server, and has a server browser so buggy you're better off trying to memorize all your favorite IP addys.....it must suck pretty hard
    • bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@Dgen X,

      The core gameplay of BF2 is great. The game was (and to some extent still is) great before the 1.3 patch came along and f'ed everything up.
    • Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh yeah, I'm not doubting that, having logged more than 250 hours myself...

      But there's no denying that it is still, more or less, in beta.
  • SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -13/+14wow, its BF2 all over again
    wow its BFV all over again
    wow its...

    who is surprised by this?
    Evil Arts and DICE dont care about cheating or the quality of their games.
    Its only after 3-4+ patches they become playable.
    • Tanpreet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17and sometimes the patches cause more problems than fixes (e.g. BF2 1.3)
    • SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -23/+2lol why digg me down? you I am right.
      down some more!
    • Janus67, on 10/12/2007, -21/+2How can you say that DICE doesn't care about the quality of their games? They have done a pretty good job with BF2 and then the Desert Combat mod was an incredible addon for BF1942.
    • bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Janus... the desert combat mod wasn't made by DICE. It was made by fans.
    • Culat, on 10/12/2007, -18/+4DICE owns the Desert Combat mod. +Digg for Janus -Digg for bpwwhirl.
      The Desert Combat official site says Copyright © 2004 Digital Illusions CE, AB. Trauma Studios developed it, and DICE bought them, which makes DICE the creator/maintainer of the addon (especially since the final release of the mod came out after DICE bought them), doesn't it?
    • 3ntropy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Wrong. The last release to come out before Trauma was bought by DICE was 0.7

      DC Final was produced by fans central to the DC community (e.g. mappers, beta testers, etc.) and is considered unofficial.
    • poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Desert Combat was bought by Dice. That doesn't mean they created it. If you build a house and then I buy it, it doesn't mean I built the house. Just that I bought it.
    • cyanid3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10same thing with counter strike and valve later buying it :)
    • leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Has else anyone noticed that every single release to support battlefield 2 was announced then delayed by ea?
    • Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3nope...the 1.3 patch came out on time...but the 1.3 hotfix (to fix all the problems 1.3 caused) was delayed
    • bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Culat

      Modders developed it, they created it, it became popular BECAUSE of them. EA/DICE only swooped in after the mod was already popular. I give more credit to the modders, not the giant corporate eagle flying through the air.
  • CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21This is why i'm still rockin' the desert combat. Hasn't grown old for me yet.
    • Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7DC used to be cool before they dumbed down the helicopters.
  • ZapWizard, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Hey Electronic Arts?

    You have been making games since the beginning of time... WhyThe F&*^$ can't you fix anything in your games before release....or after release...or after a dozen patches...or.......
    • Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9That'd be because they just don't care. This problem can be avoided by not buying anything with the EA logo on it.
  • republick, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10question... im not familiar with Punkbuster and such.....but when I play COD2 online i get kicked out because of punkbuster. I dont cheat and I dont even know how. Is this just some punkass little ***** who dont want me to play. or some kind of problem with my files
  • kevin45, on 10/12/2007, -16/+5Hellooooo counterstrike.
  • cuddleparty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4okay. not playing this one. i never encountered one cheater in BF2 (luckily) but most of my playing was done on a clan server with admin presence pretty much all the time. what pissed me off were all the patches that completely changed the way the game was played. (flying jets used to be fun when it was a challenge.) anyway, if 2142 is the same crap, why are they bothering with it? i sure hope quake wars doesn't blow too.
    • poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I rarely encounter cheaters in BF2, and if they are cheating it really doesn't seem to help them much. Last night however, I did come across an obvious one. On Sharqi nowhere near anyone on that big hill by the alleyway playing defense with AT kit. This guy in an APC knew where I was even when I moved around with no way to see me other than a UAV or Cheat running. Since I was off in a very unpopulated area and using a UAV there would be pretty futile to find one player so only one player could get by I'm betting cheats were being used.

      Oh well, we still won the round.
    • peverett, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Don't forget the commander scan. A good commander will scan the field and then right click to identify enemy soldiers. Especially those MF'sniper sonsovbitches. The number of times a good commander has highlighted one of them buggers for me and allowed me to sneak up and knife the bastard.... NOW that is a satisfying BF2 experience.

      So just 'cos there ain't UAV above your head, doesn't mean the guy hacked to know where you are.

      Shadows are buggered. If your in a building, your shadow shows up on the ground even through walls and gives away your position. Not to mention the wall clipping problem so that if you lie down in a corner your feet stick out the wall - and can be shot!

      Still, love BF2, despite these bugs.
  • nwshc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11http://www.warrock.net
    • ScottMaximus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Warrock is hacked to bits just like the BF Children.
    • decay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hate that game :)
  • Hootyea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Was anyone else hoping for a hacked demo so we can play?
    • EvilTesdall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9thats why i am here :)
    • StatusQuoRules, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7damn misleading titles!!!!!!!
    • JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I was :P cause I'm poor and young and I suffer other similar diseases
  • proudcanadian, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4People, its a BETA, it isn't done yet. Don't expect it to be a fully done perfect game, the reason it is released is so people can find these bugs and hopefully if the people contact EA about the bugs, they will be fixed. But in the meantime, stop whining.
    • BigBaRay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Difference between bugs and Client hooks. These hacks do not take advantage of bugs.
    • kRabbit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Don't expect it to be a fully done perfect game, the reason it is released is so people can find these bugs and hopefully if the people contact EA about the bugs, they will be fixed."

      Have you ever played an EA game? When did they start fixing bugs?
  • josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Wait... There's cheaters on Battlefeild 2? oh dred....
  • Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7BF2142 won't be ready for release for about 6 months... and yet they're releasing it in 18 days. Typical EA.
    • msorenson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0EA is not close to as bad as Lucasarts. When Lucasarts released BattleFront 2 around 50% of the people who bought the game had some kind of problems. I for one have a 50dollar dvd that I have never been able to use. It took them 6, SIX!!!! months to release the patch and it barley fixed a percentile of the issues. Needless to say, I am never buying a lucasarts game again....Especially now that they sold Sam & Max to a third party.

      I don't even buy games until the 3 or 4'th patch anymore....
    • ScottMaximus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Then there was always Lionhead and "The Movies." They released an Expansion Pack before they released a fix for their buggy original title.
    • Agret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"EA is not close to as bad as Lucasarts. When Lucasarts released BattleFront 2 around 50% of the people who bought the game had some kind of problems."
      Dude when EA released Battlefield 2 around 80% of people who bought the game had problems.
  • Culat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5GameStop says it is released 10/17/06, which gives a month and 18 days. Also, you have to remember, the beta that we have and play is not the same as the internal beta they have. The one we have is probably (and hopefully) several builds less than their version.
  • MoonDogAFO, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I played the hell out of BF 1942, Desert Combat, Battlefield Vietnam, and BF2. DC, DC, and BF:V were all in competitive play. Loads of fun! You'd think that would lure me back, but I haven't even downloaded the demo yet, and I am a Fileplanet subscriber!

    I don't know - Battlefield seems to have run its course for me. I blame issues encountered while playing BF2, along with the crappy server interface and buggy patches. Maybe I'll go ahead and get it - but EVE Online is dominating my time nowadays.
  • killdashnine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I have loved the entire BF line of games going all the way back to the original BF1942. Problem is that, while this is a huge multiplayer offering, EA really hasn't done their due diligence. It is absolutely clear by example that they're re-wrappering the same damn game to make more money.

    While I can't fault a company for wanting to be profitable, look to games like Counterstrike as an example. Valve focused on core code and modders went nuts developing one of the most competitive games in gaming history. Hell, the original Half-Life engine is still the preference for CS 1.6 gamers (who still outnumber CS:Source players by a wide margin). BF2 could be like this, but EA seems to be a police state and have no concern for gamers themselves. It'd be nice to have a core product that confirmed with standards in Quality Assurance! My suggestion to EA is to worry about the core and leave the modding to the professionals. You'll probably make more money in the long run.
  • kafka47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I was dying to play this game.

    Right from the loading screen of 2142 and into the game, I saw at least 9 bugs that were present in BF2. :-(

    The resultant issues I experienced prevented me from playing the game at all (high-end system). It could have been lag, since I"m in Australia and there are no servers here that I could find.

    It was painful, not so much from the *ridiculous* bugs, but most of all because I couldn't play the game!
  • smergs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well I'm a big fan of bf2 and play a lot, but they havn't even fixed the bugs (exe crash anyone?) in it yet. They need to start finishing the games and making them bug free before they go and start trying to do something else.
  • JoeAverage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Breaking News: Stand-alone expansion pack (honestly, that's what it is) to popular but poorly coded and buggy game turns out to be poorly coded and buggy. Full story at 11.
  • Splizxer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3BF2142 uses the same engine as BF2, so most of the structs / engfuncs are probably almost 100% the same, which is my reasoning for how the hacks are out so quickly.

    And for the record, PunkBuster sucks balls.
  • 8300dvo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1'What more can you expect?'
    well thats idea of a beta test, to find out the problems and work on them
  • koorb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That is because BF2142 is currently just a BF2 mod.
  • Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3BF2142 gonna royally suck. Digg me down if you must, but its developers show no effort of making a new and innovative game, just one more title with only miscellanous changes being charged like a real game, if these are not cash-in tactics then what are they?
    • Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They are too putting out quite a bit of effort to make an innovative game... The only problem was it was created and called "Starsiege Tribes" years ago.... I played 2142 at a press event a month or two back, and it was basicly a bastard offspring of BF2 and Tribes 2... Except they left out the cool jetpack part....
  • DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If you go to this guys site you can see the other screenshots and find out that his username is crackh00r. I guess he didn't mind showing his name to everyone. Must not be his main account.
  • uncleernie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0wahooo, MSX comes out tops again...
    Do you other sites even know what this post is about?
    Yes its about Patrick and Sheep owning your wobbly lardy ass.
    So, y'all stop the old(very old) rumours now please.
    For the rest of you BF fans...
    there are no hacks for BF2142 or BF2 any vids or screenies you see are just edited via photoshop. Punkbuster is working round the clock to ensure you all play on cheat free servers, trust them. .. Pop over to msx and grab a weeks subscription for any real news on hacks
  • peverett, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'm probably going to thumbed down for this but...

    I've seen a lot of comments saying "EA don't care about the game", "they should finish the game and make sure it is bug free before they release it", "The BF2142 is too buggy to be a beta". and in a similar vein.

    Well maybe you guys are in the software industry and maybe your not but I am and let me give you an insiders view. (Okay, I work for a telecom company, not on games but...)

    First, writing software, any software, is really hard. Lots of people try and compare it with other engineering projects like building a house or a bridge. It's not the same, you can't compare it your just can't. If you want to develop a game with no bugs you would have to use processes, testing and resources that would mean it was not financially feasible. You might look at NASA or advanced modern airline systems and say "these guys do it, why can't dice". NASA and the aircraft industry spend so much more money on there systems, that are maybe just as complex, I mean orders of magnitude more. Also, they use redundancy - 3 systems in parallel, if one fails others take over. You can't really do that with a game. So a game with no bugs in the first release, dream on.

    Second, how can you say they don't care about the game. These guys care with a passion. You think they don't play the game. You think they want it to suck! They don't, they want it to rock! They want you to love it. Those faceless programmers and testers deserve your respect, because knows they're not just doing it for the money. Also, fixing bugs is hard. If a bug made into a release then it wasn't an easy one to spot in the first place (at least in the pre-release testing). What makes you think fixing it is easy. Also, you fix one bug and you might uncover 2 more that were hiding behind it, or you might introduce a new bug when fixing it. Bug fixing, in my opinion, is a lot harder than making a new release.

    Finally, of course the Beta is buggy. I know about testing software, I get consumer mobiles to test about 3 to 6 months before they come to market. When I first get a new phone, its software has already been through thousands of hours of product testing and that new phone software is as buggy as hell, its slow, it crashes, it drops calls! Why, because there is only so much you can test in a lab or on a test network. You need to put your software on the Net to see how it will really work and how people will really use it. By the time a phone I am testing finishes goes to market its a hell of a lot better than when I got it, and I'll have had to load new software versions at least once a week from start to release. And when its released there will STILL be bugs.

    In summary; don't dis the EA development team. They have a hard job and they do care about the game. If you ever meet one of these guys, buy him/her a beer - they deserve it.
    • poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm sorry man, but BF2 has been out for over a year and the game is still as buggy as ever. They rarely give updates on the website about what they are doing to fix things unless you read the forums which most don't. Word of the 1.4 patch first being released was up on the Spanish forum a week before they even mentioned releasing it anywhere else. Then they delayed it again. No word on when it's coming out and it's been nearly a month since that delay.

      EA and Dice are doing a HORRIBLE job supporting this game and their lack of communication to everyone who paid for this game is rediculous. If I ever meet someone from the EA/Dice development team they should buy ME a beer for buying their products and supporting them.
  • uncleernie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1errr.... yes . so the money we spend on the game is not a thankyou?
    Err, yes , so as consumers we cannot expect to buy a retail ready product when this game is released.
    So, your saying the more complex the game is the more likely it will not be ready for retail the day it hits the shops.
    Its the same old same old
    whats happening is EA have failed the BFseries fans yet again.
    apart from that mate alls cool, because this is a topic about cheats in bf2142 or to be precise the BETA.
    By the looks of it, this game should not be ready for retail until that is fixed. If its using the same engine as BF2 then hows that gonna happen.? Thank EA?
    ok Thanks EA for making N00bs out of every single, honest, non-cheating BF gamer on the planet.
  • Sobieski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was just about to be convinced by "peverett"'s post, but then i read what "uncleernie" had written and GODDAMMIT he's right! Paying 50 euros for a product is thanks enough, especially when the games are rushed out and presented as ready when they are actually in need of a ton of tuning.
  • Shuklack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There will always be hacks and the little self-loathing kids that use them.

    So, when you complain about a massive game, with imperfections as all massive things are, consider the following:

    We could be playing a well-administrated, no hacks, closely monitored, constantly updated and fixed game. But, it would cost us $15.99 a month.

  • eaglescout5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Only because the Beta was without Punkbuster the hackers were able to do their thing. But Look now with the retail verion. See them whine.
    http://www.battlecoders.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1167
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