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- poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -7/+39well first off, there is no punk buster with 2142. Also, its a beta and meant to find bugs, add word of mouth, and hopefully get people excited for the full game. Too bad cheaters can't even understand that and have to win no matter what at a very buggy beta instead of reporting issues to make the game better.
I can't even play the beta really because the cheating is way too obvious. - Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38Figures, BF2 is a cheat filled cesspool and Punkbuster is as useful as a crepe paper helmet. It's not as bad as Halo2 yet but if 2142 is shadered already there's no real hope for it. Cheaters kill games, it's sad that people get more entertainmet out of cheating then playing. Oh well, I can still be sure that I am a hell of a lot better then the cheaters and they know it, that's why they have to cheat.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21This is why i'm still rockin' the desert combat. Hasn't grown old for me yet.
- bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Janus... the desert combat mod wasn't made by DICE. It was made by fans.
- ZapWizard, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Hey Electronic Arts?
You have been making games since the beginning of time... WhyThe F&*^$ can't you fix anything in your games before release....or after release...or after a dozen patches...or....... - Darren07, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18There is PunkBuster enabled in the Beta, these hacks are alos present in BF2 today, and PB hasn't indentified all of them yet.
- Tanpreet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17and sometimes the patches cause more problems than fixes (e.g. BF2 1.3)
- bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19The game is inconsistent in that what you do to score in one instance will not work the next. For example, one aspect of the game is to assault/defend motherships called Titans. If you kill someone attacking your Titan, you are supposed to get a "Titan Defense 1+" point.. kind of like flag defense in BF2. But this doesn't happen all the time.. maybe 25% of the time.
The game is jerky in that when you go to do something, your character doesn't actually DO it for about a half second. For example, sprinting. You push the sprint button to run around a corner to dodge incoming fire. But it doesn't happen when you want it to.. and so you die. Same with firing a gun.
Another thing that pisses me off is that you earn "unlocks"... so I used one to buy the ability to have Frag Grenades. Does it work? NO. Other people have frag grenades.. but when I want to switch to my grenades, it doesn't work. WTF?
And yet again, they have screwed up the server screen. When selecting a server to join, I look for the lowest ping possible. Ensures a good game. But EA/DICE, in all of their holy wisdom, have decided to replace the display of "72 ms" with different colored lights. So the only indicators of how good your ping is to a server are green, yellow, or red lights. How is this even remotely smart?
And don't even get me started on the map system.. they screwed that up badly.
Don't get me wrong, there are some cool things in the game. But as of right now, the bad FAR outweighs the good. - wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Can punkbuster check the shaders?
- Hootyea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Was anyone else hoping for a hacked demo so we can play?
- bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I've been playing the Beta since the first load of CDkeys were given out, and I can tell you.. EA/DICE sure have a long way to go to bring this game up to par with BF2. The game is so jerky, confusing, and inconsistent right now.
- BigBaRay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Difference between bugs and Client hooks. These hacks do not take advantage of bugs.
- Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12No hackers in CS, nosiiireebob
- BigBaRay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I agree. and donate the 5 bucks a month to keep server paid for.
- cyanid3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10same thing with counter strike and valve later buying it :)
- poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Desert Combat was bought by Dice. That doesn't mean they created it. If you build a house and then I buy it, it doesn't mean I built the house. Just that I bought it.
- 3ntropy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Wrong. The last release to come out before Trauma was bought by DICE was 0.7
DC Final was produced by fans central to the DC community (e.g. mappers, beta testers, etc.) and is considered unofficial. - heartless_, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12PB does a great job on BF2 and its rare to find any hacks on the ranked servers.
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9That'd be because they just don't care. This problem can be avoided by not buying anything with the EA logo on it.
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7DC used to be cool before they dumbed down the helicopters.
- EvilTesdall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9thats why i am here :)
- jeolmeun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You don't think they'll have real world wall hack and auto aim in the year 2142?
- killdashnine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I have loved the entire BF line of games going all the way back to the original BF1942. Problem is that, while this is a huge multiplayer offering, EA really hasn't done their due diligence. It is absolutely clear by example that they're re-wrappering the same damn game to make more money.
While I can't fault a company for wanting to be profitable, look to games like Counterstrike as an example. Valve focused on core code and modders went nuts developing one of the most competitive games in gaming history. Hell, the original Half-Life engine is still the preference for CS 1.6 gamers (who still outnumber CS:Source players by a wide margin). BF2 could be like this, but EA seems to be a police state and have no concern for gamers themselves. It'd be nice to have a core product that confirmed with standards in Quality Assurance! My suggestion to EA is to worry about the core and leave the modding to the professionals. You'll probably make more money in the long run. - leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Has else anyone noticed that every single release to support battlefield 2 was announced then delayed by ea?
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7BF2142 won't be ready for release for about 6 months... and yet they're releasing it in 18 days. Typical EA.
- kRabbit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Don't expect it to be a fully done perfect game, the reason it is released is so people can find these bugs and hopefully if the people contact EA about the bugs, they will be fixed."
Have you ever played an EA game? When did they start fixing bugs? - BigBaRay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What sucks the worst about this is that BF series is an excellent faced paced multi player shooter that is a blast to play when everybody plays without hooks.
In bf2 if you had more deaths than kills in a round on the ground you had a pretty good game. (Jets were easy to go 12 to 1 on KD ratio but at least you didnt have to hack). Staight up game for game you killed as much as you got killed. by the time your deaths included your friendly fire and arty deaths even the best players where just slightly above the 50 percent ratio. New players could join and within a few games they at least were able to get a kill or two and within a month ( once they knew the maps) they where competitive.
It was all blown out of porportion cause vehicles ruled the battle field( especially jets) but all in all it was a good time.
I hope we can find password servers that will allow the honest players to play each other. without the aimbots, wallhacks, or the chamelion skins. - StatusQuoRules, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7damn misleading titles!!!!!!!
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I saw a hack on a BF2 RANKED server that allowed commanders to drop a hundred vehicles at once. Looks funny seeing them all parachute from the sky.
- Culat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5GameStop says it is released 10/17/06, which gives a month and 18 days. Also, you have to remember, the beta that we have and play is not the same as the internal beta they have. The one we have is probably (and hopefully) several builds less than their version.
- kamikazecow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Isnt it comming out next month too...? o boy.. how is it inconsistant and jerky?
- nwshc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11http://www.warrock.net
- poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've played it a bit but I'm not really impressed. I Loved BF1942, Vietnam was a let down, and BF2 for the most part is still a really fun game. So far 2142 just doesn't do it for me. I understand its a beta and all, but when I empty an entire clip into someone and they don't die it's time to turn the game off.
- cuddleparty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4okay. not playing this one. i never encountered one cheater in BF2 (luckily) but most of my playing was done on a clan server with admin presence pretty much all the time. what pissed me off were all the patches that completely changed the way the game was played. (flying jets used to be fun when it was a challenge.) anyway, if 2142 is the same crap, why are they bothering with it? i sure hope quake wars doesn't blow too.
- bpwwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Culat
Modders developed it, they created it, it became popular BECAUSE of them. EA/DICE only swooped in after the mod was already popular. I give more credit to the modders, not the giant corporate eagle flying through the air. - ViceVirtue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Haha, a 1.2 kill-death ratio is nothing to brag about, pal.
- EvilTesdall, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8its a valid question...
punkbuster is a software you need to download and install...
http://www.punkbuster.com/ - Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3nope...the 1.3 patch came out on time...but the 1.3 hotfix (to fix all the problems 1.3 caused) was delayed
- Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wouldn't say I'm bragging...just making the point that the "top players" better not have .5 fragrates
and hey, 1.22 is respectable...since 70% of my time is spent on foot
I'm sure if I bought a $90 flight joystick and spent many an hour in a jet, or spend 400 hours in one of the tanks I could get it up to the 3+ that the top players actually do have ;-) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Probably because its not installed. LOL.
- JoeAverage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Breaking News: Stand-alone expansion pack (honestly, that's what it is) to popular but poorly coded and buggy game turns out to be poorly coded and buggy. Full story at 11.
- decay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hate that game :)
- smergs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well I'm a big fan of bf2 and play a lot, but they havn't even fixed the bugs (exe crash anyone?) in it yet. They need to start finishing the games and making them bug free before they go and start trying to do something else.
- kafka47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I was dying to play this game.
Right from the loading screen of 2142 and into the game, I saw at least 9 bugs that were present in BF2. :-(
The resultant issues I experienced prevented me from playing the game at all (high-end system). It could have been lag, since I"m in Australia and there are no servers here that I could find.
It was painful, not so much from the *ridiculous* bugs, but most of all because I couldn't play the game! - Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"EA/DICE sure have a long way to go to bring this game up to par with BF2"
bringing it up to par with BF2 isn't saying much in itself...
if a game has a long way to go before it crashes multiple times a session, randomly disconnects half the people in a server, and has a server browser so buggy you're better off trying to memorize all your favorite IP addys.....it must suck pretty hard - Splizxer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3BF2142 uses the same engine as BF2, so most of the structs / engfuncs are probably almost 100% the same, which is my reasoning for how the hacks are out so quickly.
And for the record, PunkBuster sucks balls. - Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3BF2142 gonna royally suck. Digg me down if you must, but its developers show no effort of making a new and innovative game, just one more title with only miscellanous changes being charged like a real game, if these are not cash-in tactics then what are they?
- Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh yeah, I'm not doubting that, having logged more than 250 hours myself...
But there's no denying that it is still, more or less, in beta. - poonannie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I rarely encounter cheaters in BF2, and if they are cheating it really doesn't seem to help them much. Last night however, I did come across an obvious one. On Sharqi nowhere near anyone on that big hill by the alleyway playing defense with AT kit. This guy in an APC knew where I was even when I moved around with no way to see me other than a UAV or Cheat running. Since I was off in a very unpopulated area and using a UAV there would be pretty futile to find one player so only one player could get by I'm betting cheats were being used.
Oh well, we still won the round. - JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I was :P cause I'm poor and young and I suffer other similar diseases
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