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Attack of the Jaggies in Wii Call of Duty 3

destructoid.com — This shouldn ’t come as a surprise to anyone: when compared to the Xbox 360 version the difference is so severe that it looks like a different game in some shots. Jaggies aside, there are a lot of visual problems such as absence in depth of field shadows, realistic lighting, and volumetric fog — all things that do attribute to immersive gameplay.

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theRIAA, on 10/12/2007, -4/+74"dont touch the sharp trees"
- Bara, on 10/12/2007, -23/+62^ This coming from someone who has probably never touched a Wii in their life. You have to remember that CoD is a simulator for World War 2, and what makes a game more "simulation"-like than realistic graphics? The Wii version just does not give us that.
- StatusQuoRules, on 10/12/2007, -68/+26At least it looks better than the ps2
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -24/+46why are you modding him down? hes right. Games like this will play exactly the same on all three systems, except for the fact that it will look like ass on the wii and probably best on a PS3. The question is if you want to spend 300 dollars more for that extra eye candy.
- biffsputnik, on 10/12/2007, -23/+25http://duggmirror.com
- diggywiggit, on 10/12/2007, -24/+114Not caring about graphics but only game play is like having an ugly girlfriend that's only good in bed.
- eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -6/+63but is she funny
- BenSerwa, on 10/12/2007, -15/+12Except for the small difference of using the more precise to aim remote to aim instead of an analog stick. It is an advantage, though I can understand why it wouldn't blow you away.
- toaplan, on 10/12/2007, -23/+8Did anyone expect the wii to have the same or better graphics than the 360? To be fair, both screenshots have shadows, the wii one just has less contrast. The two tanks are different so apart from the texture resolution it is hard to tell the differance. wii looks worse though.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -29/+23thats hardly an advantage. Analog sticks are easier to aim with than a wiimote. The wiimote is more fun to aim with maybe, but its not something that will help your game at all. They might even have to end up making some sore of autoaim system for the wii because it really is pretty hard to aim accurately with that controller
  
  And you should be playing COD3 on a computer with mouse and keyboard anyway. WASD FTW.
- arca, on 10/12/2007, -26/+39For all those who think graphics are king, remember Goldeneye. That game is from... '95 if memory serves? I certainly was playing it in elementary school. The game was fun to play, and the graphics were good for the day, but horrible now.
  
  Or Ocarina of Time. The textures were unacceptably bad even in that day, but I'll be damned if it still isn't my very favorite game.
  
  Graphics are important, but only insofar as they get out of the way of the gameplay. How many of you have played super breakout? Including the few hundred where the maker tried to jazz up the graphics. Unless there was some other innovation, can any of you say that it was any better than just the simplest of graphics?
  
  I like video games, I like video games looking nice, but given the choice of shiny over gameplay? Gameplay always wins.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -9/+44To be fair, the PS3 version's trees are just as sharp:
  http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/801/801848/img_3973328.html
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -23/+12diggywiggit: "Not caring about graphics but only game play is like having an ugly girlfriend that's only good in bed."
  
  You've never played a truly good game in your life, then, have you? Perhaps it's like having a girlfriend. Those who've never had one can't possibly comprehend what it is like to have one.
  
  Give me Dragon Quest over Madden any day. I'd have to resign to arcade games and books if all that games were about was high-powered graphics.
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20"Or Ocarina of Time. The textures were unacceptably bad even in that day, but I'll be damned if it still isn't my very favorite game."
  Nah the textures were pretty pwn back in the day, you should check it on the PC. 1280x1024 with the high-res texture pack and playing using your XBOX controller. Oh god such a great game :)
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -20/+9http://www.duggmirror.com/gaming_news/Attack_of_the_Jaggies_in_Wii_Call_of_Duty_3
- JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15@ arca
  
  Hardly. Both OoT and Goldeneye were praised as good looking games. Maybe not quite as advanced as the PS1 games of the same genre, but it certainly wasn't the difference that this article presents to us (especially if they had given us that Xbox 360 pic in a higher-res to show high-def compared to SD).
- sakuraz, on 10/12/2007, -20/+7masamunecyrus: "
  diggywiggit: "Not caring about graphics but only game play is like having an ugly girlfriend that's only good in bed."
  
  You've never played a truly good game in your life, then, have you? Perhaps it's like having a girlfriend. Those who've never had one can't possibly comprehend what it is like to have one.
  
  ..."
  
  You've never had a truly good sex in your life, then, have you? Those who've never experienced it can't possibly comprehend what it is like to have one.
- Pathos, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5@JeffH
  
  Are you kidding ? The N64 games blew away in the ps1 in graphics. The original medal of honour had horrific graphics and nothing on the ps1 came near Oot, I'm sure the ps1 used a lower resolution than most tv's can handle, It very noticable on GT2.
  
  N64 games scale incredibly well graphically on emulators while the ps1 games really show the shortcuts the developers needed to get the necessary fps.
- JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8PS1 games generally looked better than N64 games. Regardless of what your emulator does when it upscales, that's entirely irrelevant.
- OdysseusSMS, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13Drizek - "why are you modding him down? hes right. Games like this will play exactly the same on all three systems, except for the fact that it will look like ass on the wii and probably best on a PS3. The question is if you want to spend 300 dollars more for that extra eye candy."
  
  Untrue, Call Of Duty 3 plays very differently for the Wii and supposedly takes good advantage of the controller. Activision built the Wii version around the different controller. They also added a gameplay element for the PS3 version with the tilt controller, but it sounds like that was tacked on. (You can tilt the PS3 controller to bash enemies with the butt of your gun.)
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6"So? The Wii version is more fun than the awesome looking PS3/360 version will ever be."
  
  Why? Because there's a ***** bowling simulator in one of the bunkers? Give us a break ! The bias on this site is unbelievable.
- Stalks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10zetsurin, your sarcasm radar is malfunctioning.
- millixaw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20The Phantom Console
  Attack of the Jaggies
  Hmm...
  PlayStation (Episode) 3: Revenge of the Wallet ?
- Shironeko, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14Don't blame the Wii for something that's the developers fault. If the graphics look sitty it's because activision was too lazy. Even RE4 for the GC looks better!
  
  http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/736/736454/red-steel-20060928055015400.jpg
  http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/707/707397/super-mario-galaxy-20060510043925405.jpg
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"To be fair, the PS3 version's trees are just as sharp:
  http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/801/801848/img_3973328.html "
  
  As are the 360's - http://uk.media.xbox360.ign.com/media/801/801849/img_3973296.html
  
  This is just a case of high def images being scaled down and appearing anti aliased.
  
  Anti aliasing transparent textures like the ones used in trees requires transparency anti aliasing, which is very processor expensive and generally only done on SLI/Cross Fire where it's easy to render two copies of an image.
- triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3the trees on the PS3 are no where near the crap on the wii
  
  http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/801/801848/img_3859238.html
  
  and its not just a case of compression, the side by side of the 360 and the wii are both equally down scaled.
- ZeroMP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3JeffH said: "Hardly. Both OoT and Goldeneye were praised as good looking games. Maybe not quite as advanced as the PS1 games of the same genre, but it certainly wasn't the difference that this article presents to us (especially if they had given us that Xbox 360 pic in a higher-res to show high-def compared to SD)."
  
  Yeah the PS1 games of the same genre were SOOO advanced! Especially in the gimpy ass control scheme used to navigate 3D environments with the ZERO Analog sticks on the controller! Oh but at least they made up for it by copying Nintendo and doubling up on the PS2...
  
  Also, I'm about tired of everyone saying things like: "of course it is going to look worse on the Wii and probably will look BEST ON THE PS3..." I don't really see where the PS3 is that much more advanced than the Xbox 360 (which has already been out a full year) graphically speaking. All these punks just see the huge price tag and assume it translates to better graphics rather than you being Sonys Blu-Ray bitch.
BadassCheese, on 10/12/2007, -8/+42The does look like *****, and I am a 360 fanboy. But this is probably the game maker's fault for a ***** job.
- j0keR, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21A port is a port. I mean, they're porting it to a slower system. The same thing can be said for any multi-console port from last generation, including some of those awful PC to xbox ports.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -13/+47no its not. thats just complete *****. FFS just compare the specs. the 360 and ps3 have so much more power than the wii its not even funny.
  
  You can buy a wii for the awesome controller, but dont pretend it has good graphics.
- BenSerwa, on 10/12/2007, -24/+10It does have good graphics.
  Great graphics? Depends on the game.
  Amazing graphics? Probably not.
- aerogant, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25Honestly with the number of platforms the developers are working on, I'd imagine it being difficult to port the game to a lower end system. It's almost to the point where I would imagine that in order to make a game easy to port, game developers would have to aim for the lowest end first, and then port it to the higher end systems and enhance the game.
  
  The power of the 360 and PS3 is not just graphics, it's in the AI, physics, which are a factor in the number of characters on the screen. It's just a different experience if say one game has 20 enemies in your view (characters and vehicles) with large environments, while on another system it can only have 10 with smaller environments. That means the game has not just to be ported but redesigned.
  
  I like Nintendo's products in general, and this will probably get this post buried, but I feel like they are just falling behind. When am I going to be able to buy my DS games online and download them to a cartridge in my DS like an iPod? I mean I like what I can do with my 360 on xbox live, I want that on my DS! All they have done with the DS lite, is fix the mistakes they made in the first ones. Nintendo is very much like Sony, they both suck at the software end, and are going to end up playing catch up to Microsoft, of all companies (it's usually the other way around :P).
- texpundit, on 10/12/2007, -18/+10Dood... it didn't look THAT bad.
  
  Plus, if you're in the middle of a hardcore action sequence...you're not worrying if the graphics are the best...you're worried about getting your ass shot off. THAT's when the game truly shines.
- MicrowavedH2o, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14regardless of how it looks and who's fault it is-----
  
  awesome graphics and fast processor != amount of fun from playing.
- daborg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"You can buy a wii for the awesome controller, but dont pretend it has good graphics."
  
  Exactly... If you want good graphics, play on your PC. If you want a fun console, buy a Wii.
  
  It's quite simple really.
- igotdugout, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10"Exactly... If you want good graphics, play on your PC. If you want a fun console, buy a Wii."
  
  WTF? So none of the XBox or PS3 consoles have any fun games? What the ***** is with you Wii zealots? Xbox and PS systems always had just as fun or better games than Nintendo, and vice versa. Except as an added bonus, the other xbox and ps consoles generally has better graphics to play those fun games in.
  
  Is affordable console = fun games, and expensive console = ***** games the new trend now? Honestly, the people that think so are retarded.
devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -35/+3Yeah, it doesn't look as good. But where's the counter-article:

ATTACK OF THE OUTDATED CONTROL SCHEME IN 360 CALL OF DUTY 3
Kardde, on 10/12/2007, -15/+32We've seen what the Wii is capable of from how Twilight Princess looks. And that's just a first generation game. It's already been said that CoD3 is essentially an X360 game that's just being lazily ported over to other consoles, so it's not too surprising that it doesn't look that great on the Wii. In any case, I wasn't planning on buying it anyway.
- MouseCircus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+41What the Wii is capable of? People are forgetting that Twilight Princess is a GAMECUBE game. I put that in caps for emphasis.
  
  I don't think any game we've seen thus far demonstrates what the Wii is capable of, and we won't see one for at least a year. Developers aren't putting their focus on the graphics this time around. And I'm happy for that. It's also the reason why I brush aside all the idiots who keep insulting Wii graphics. I realize they don't, and never will look as great as 360 or PS3 graphics, but they'll look better than Twilight Princess in a year or two. And that's good enough for me.
- libradragon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17It's possible that the the Wiimote is the Wii's own worst enemy. Publishers may be thinking that there's so much enphasis on gameplay vs. graphics with this platform that they don't bother focusing on graphic optimizations. I personally am not too thrilled with the propect of jumping around my living room just to play a game. I game to unwind. If the Wiimote can enhance my gaming experience without overwheling me, then I'll be happy. I'm really more interested in the virtual console. I'd rather play Bonk's Adventure, Kid Icarus and other "old school" games --along with the Wii native versions of Nintendo franchise games. Loading up an emulator on my PC is not the same as going console. Sure I could just drop $100 on eBay for a bunch of old consoles and games, but I'm not too eager to hook up a bunch of new ***** to my TV.
- triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Kardde you'd have a point if the game wasn't also ported to the PS3 which has a completely different system where the game still looks fantastic.
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"Publishers may be thinking that there's so much enphasis on gameplay vs. graphics with this platform that they don't bother focusing on graphic optimizations."
  
  Fine by me. I'd far prefer that to the typical emphasis on graphics over gameplay.
Lane5slacker, on 10/12/2007, -15/+32When will people realize that Nintendo doesn't seriously give a ***** about graphics?
- MouseCircus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+25They do care. But they also believe that graphics are good enough. With the Wii console, they focused on changing the gameplay, because they believe that's what the industry needs before it kills itself.
  
  As I've posted before in various other articles, Miyamoto has already said that their next console will be HD, and they will focus on the graphics. Graphics weren't important to them this time.
- BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -22/+9They don't care about graphics?
  So why aren't their games just blank screens?
- Lososaurus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9Actually, they effectively do, there's a Bit Generations game out there called 'Sound Voyager', where you play the game entirely by sound.
- EmileVictor, on 10/12/2007, -10/+8I don't think it's just nintendo who don't care. It's their fanbase too. A majority of people who buy the wii are not looking for Xbox 360 graphics, and if they *get* them, it's a bonus. What they are looking for is a different method of playing a game. It has to be simple and fun.
- navster15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5But therein lies our problem. As games in the upcoming generation get more advanced and more power hungry on the PS3 and Xbox 360, publishers may decide that porting to the Wii, and stripping out assets, would not be cost effective. We may then have the situation with the GameCube repeat itself, where gamers will only buy it for games published by Nintendo.
nights0223, on 10/12/2007, -15/+30The whole graphics debate is getting a little old. It is like deja vu of the PSP vs DS debate. And we all know how that ended.
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -43/+15Did it end?
  
  Honestly, I have never seen a DS in anyone's hands in the last two years. Who the Hell is buying all of these things? (I saw two PSP's on the bus in the same day...I need to know who is playing these things!)
- StarManta, on 10/12/2007, -15/+18Must be either a) regional or b) you're a blatantly lying Sony fanboy... I'd put even money on each ;-)
  Most of my friends have DS's. A few have PSP's, but all of those are wishing they'd bought a DS instead.
- Frankie4Fingers, on 10/12/2007, -33/+16PSP has a much better screen and graphic quality.. who would wanna play a game with a touch screen? I can do that on my PocketPC phone.. and it is horrible there too... And watching movies on my PSP is awesome...
- JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -14/+16The DS has sold 25 million units. The PSP has shipped 20 million units, Sony refuses to tell us how many of those were actually sold.
- texpundit, on 10/12/2007, -14/+13Frankie, you, sir, are an asshat.
  
  Try playing Metroid Prime: Hunters with the touch screen vs the button scheme. Night and day.
- aerogant, on 10/12/2007, -16/+13Frankie4Fingers the difference is no one is making any good games for your PocketPC phone :P
- NeoTechni, on 10/12/2007, -13/+23"The whole graphics debate is getting a little old. It is like deja vu of the PSP vs DS debate. And we all know how that ended. "
  
  I own both, and enjoy PSP far more. The games just feel more fully fleshed out, where DS games feel more minigamish. Compare Ace Combat X to Star Fox Command for example.
- IdanE, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings. That being said, the DS is selling much better than the PSP all over the world. I own both and play the DS more than the PSP. The PSP is a really great console, but DS is where the games are at. We even got 2 final fantasies and and a seiken densetsu game coming from square - and they've been sony fanboys for around a decade.
- Reziarfg, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6I own a PSP, and have found quite a few people to play with that own them as well at college. I'd say it fits the bill for whta I use it for. Movies, games, music, internet browsing.
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -11/+8"The whole graphics debate is getting a little old. It is like deja vu of the PSP vs DS debate. And we all know how that ended. "
  
  Ended? Don't trumpet victory just yet son. I, as well as my mates, all have PSPs and we don't regret it one little bit. PSP has sold millions and it's Sony's _first_ foray into handhelds. Did the Lynx do so well? Gamegear? Game Park? No! This battle is still on, and it is entirely possibly that the battle can swing into Sony's favour considering what is on the horizon for the unit. And for your figures, that includes all the suckers who bought a DS Lite after buying a DS which is a significant number, so I believe that number represents the number of distinct owners less than the PSP sales figures do.
- negativenancy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The PSP actually did quite well considering that Nintendo has had a complete headlock on the portable game industry for the past oh so many years. Nintendo and the Gameboy IS synonymous with handheld gaming.
- triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3add in that sony just anounced there will be an additional 110 PSP games being released in the short term and i'd say round two of the battle is just getting started.
ViperG, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14I see a shadow. look closely
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23i see shadows sometimes too. they're caused by the sun and/or lights.
Spamiclese, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30Don't forget the lack of online multiplayer support for the Wii. GameInformer mistakenly printed that the Wii version of COD3 will have online capabilities. This was a typo. It will only be single player.
ImTheDarkcyde, on 10/12/2007, -4/+40ho lee *****. i never thought i'd see an anti-wii article in my rss!
- altosaxon, on 10/12/2007, -19/+12@apo11o16
  do you just sit on your computer looking for different wii stories so that you can come in with your repulsive statements?
  
  i guess that is what happens when you dont understand, so i guess i will explain the wii to you so that i dont have to see you name on any more of these stories.
  
  it is not about the graphics with the games... it is about the controller and the different feeling that the wii brings out in gaming... when those who are going to buy a wii want good graphics and a standardized gameplay with next to no interaction they will turn on their xbox360s.
  
  The whole point is that the gameplay is on a level that is beyond compare and of course a third party release title is not going to have the greatest graphics, but that is only when compared to the systems that cost about twice as much money... When compared to CoD2 however the graphics look fine.
  
  Lastly, it is not like anybody expected CoD to be a very good game on the wii, it is obviously just a port from the xbox360 version...
- MCurley, on 10/12/2007, -16/+8apo11o16... in response to your junior high analogy
  
  If the Wii is a kid with Downe Syndrome, the PS3 is a spoiled kid who thinks everyone likes him and that he is tough sh**.
- eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I don't think you've used tough ***** properly there...
- rbtopp, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1@apo11o16
  WOW that is the first time i think i"ve seen a troll finally understand why people are excited about the wii
glitchbit, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16yea it is obvious that they care nothing about making it look good for the Wii. This is the publishers fault. But at the same time I am sure they are also very worried about spending too much development costs on the Wii due to Nintendos horrible reputation among these 3rd Party companies.

In my opinion Nintendo is a very stubborn company who really doesn't care about being supported by 3rd parties so like wise they don't care about supporting them. And ultimately that is why the GC and N64 failed in comparison.

Will the Wii change this? Possibly but I am not holding me breath....
- MouseCircus, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Luckily, that's only your opinion. Everyone knows Nintendo is going out of their way to get a hold of developers. They've even done a few interviews where they emphasize how important it is to them to get more developers working with the Wii. Nintendo's been given their chance, and they're not going to ***** it up.
Mongoose, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Link = pwned.

http://duggmirror.com/gaming_news/Attack_of_the_Jaggies_in_Wii_Call_of_Duty_3/
gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3I wonder if the comparison was made on HDTV? SD content never looks good on HDTV the same way flat panel PC monitors aren’t very good outside their native resolutions.
- mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Wii does not support HDTV.
- Maniaca, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Yes, but you can still hook up a Wii to an HDTV and get a picture.
- triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1that's not necessarily true. it depends on the signal processor on the set.
Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -21/+13Gameplay>Graphics
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -14/+7It's the same game, though....
  
  And why do people keep touting HD. What does HD have to do with triangle-shaped treads?
- Inferny, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23True, but graphics are also a part of gameplay, that said, i still think that gameplay is more important, but i would have more fun shooting a person rather than a block.
lagrange, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6It must be a pretty crappy game if you spend your time thinking about textures ,shadows and 'jaggies'.

You sound like someone whining that he wont play chess because the pieces arent colorful enough.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25People actually spend thousands of dollars on chess sets.
- ArekRashan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3@drizek
  
  Someone who's willing to spend thousands of dollars on a chess set is probably also willing to play the game with twigs stuck in the ground if they had to.
- skywake, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3the people that spend thousands of dollars on chess sets sit them in glass cases and use them just to show off to people. Strangely this is the same with the graphics argument... I want a console to play games and not just for the 5 minute 'coolness' factor that it will get when i first play it.
  
  but honestly... the Wii version did look worse but it's not bad to the extent that it would be unplayable. Its a bit of a week argument.... I like to play games not look at screen shots and videos of other people playing games. Thats why i will get a Wii.... :P
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9> It must be a pretty crappy game if you spend your time thinking about textures ,shadows and 'jaggies'.
  
  Err, not it doesn't. It just happens in this specific story the topic are the graphics.
benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5NOOO not the fog? they can mess with the game however they want but GOD HELP THE MAN THAT TAKES MY FOG AWAY.......

it just goes to show how the current idiocy is to make a game look pretty regardless of wether its fun or not. Call of duty was fun...the expansion was ok....call of duty 2 eh.....call of duty 48 sigh.
TyRaNNOus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3HD for me has nothing to do with it, the fact half life 2 and doom 3 look better then this is my problem even the wii is capable of better then this. I don't think they spent the time they should of downgrading it.
Democritus2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Is there a button to block any story containing the word wii ?

Lots of complaints about Politics on digg. Personally I am sick of the Wii stories.
- Modulo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/2310
  your wish is granted, long live Jambi
  (you need greasemonkey and firefox)
vdog, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Personally, I'll be buying a Wii for the game that are unique to it, not for the games that are on every platform.
- marioluigi123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think that's an excellent idea and is why I support the Wii60 Combo for those that can afford it.
drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5this is a Wii first gen game dont forget that
- 0101010, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Accept reality my friend..the Wii simply isnt as powerful and never will be as the 360 or ps3
- earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6nor is it ever trying to be. you make it sound like the Wii is trying to be the best in graphics and has failed when it was never meant to in the first place. it hasn't failed, it just doesnt care.
- 0101010, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3i know its not trying to be, just that some people still have hope that someday it's graphic capabilities will one day magically be as good as the other 2 consoles.
- untakennick, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1When Nintendo releases a title for the Wii, it will look great. Nintendo knows how to keep the graphics simple. Which, given the properties that nintendo owns, is exactly what they want. They don't tend to go for ultra photo realism in their games, because that's not what people expect. Who wants a photo-realistic mario? Developers who want to move software for the Wii will design games in that style, and develop them from the ground up for that platform. That's why they don't need the raw graphics horsepower of the 360 or PS3 - whose developers by and large are going for graphics wow-factor.
emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10There's more at play here than just the lower power of the Wii. This is also a really poor quality port to lower power hardware.
deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15I'm sure I'll get dugg down for saying this but the $250 price tag makes the Wii graphics a relevant gripe. If it was $150-$175 then yeah... you get what you pay for but at $250 I feel like I should be getting a significant visual upgrade and not just a fancy controller. I'll probably get a Wii eventually but I can't justify the $250 price tag for what looks like current-gen graphics without mutliplayer support in launch titles.
JonnyTrombone, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7It might be noble to say 'gameplay over graphics'... but I'm still only buying the Wii because I'm too cheap to get a 360.
BenSerwa, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4I think it'd be a little foolish for someone to make or break their decision on Call of Duty 3, which was obviously going to be a crappy port, and when there are lots of great FPSes coming out for the Wii that aren't.
TehSuper, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Looks fine to me.

Wii = fun
PC = graphics
drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1this is much better review of all three versions
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/callofduty3/news.html?sid=6159452&tag=topslot;action;1&om_act=convert&click=topslot
EEBaum, on 10/12/2007, -16/+14Immersive gameplay? You want immersive gameplay in a WW2 title? I'll give you immersive gameplay.

You start the game with ONE life. One shot and you're severely injured, if not dead. Once you die, game over. No loading a saved game. No starting over. You lose, and you don't get a second chance.

THAT, my friend, is a realistic game.
- davodavo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2WIN
- rkettner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Um, "immersive" is NOT the same as "realistic". A game can draw you in without being realistic. Example: World of Warcraft.
seansshack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The Wii version looks like a step back to last gen +1. The pic in the advert with the guy aiming the rifle looks like it would may play more difficult. Imagine a couple of hours play like that?

You get what you pay for I guess. The Wii is a fun idea on low end specs. The games will be a lesser experience because of reduced graphics, sound, AI and physics. But you will interact differently with the controller.
Ravenlock, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Wow, you guys will mod down ANYTHING. :-p (I wonder how long this will survive.)

People will buy whichever version of the game they have the console to play - I don't think anyone is picking their console based on a game we've all already played two previous versions of. The Call of Duty games are awesome, yes, but 2 wasn't that different from 1 and 3 won't be that different from 2. In my opinion, the serious downside of the Wii version won't be the graphics (though obviously they aren't nearly as good), it's the lack of online play. The Wii is at risk to lag behind the X360 and PS3 pretty seriously in America until they get online play working in 2007, because we loves our internets. Nintendo never seems to understand that.

Complaining about the Wii's graphics at this point is somewhat pointless, though. The system IS capable of beautiful graphics - Metroid Prime: Corruption and Mario Galaxy both look gorgeous - but technically, it's somewhere above the original XBox and way below the X360 and PS3. We know this. Folks who buy a Wii aren't buying it for the graphics.
earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8I am sop tired of the Wii bashing based on graphics.

The fact is the Wii does not have fantastic graphics cause it doesnt matter. They focus on interesting gameplay and just plain fun. It will do that well and will be very fun.

That being said a game like Call of Duty is definitely a blast and relies on nice graphics to be so immersive. In that case one of the other consoles excel.

They do different jobs and will succeed at their own things. Its silly to say the Wii is worse than the 360 or PS3 because its graphics arent as nice when it wasnt built for that purpose in the first place.

I love playing games on my 360 with its nice graphics. But at the end of the day I will remember the Wii cause it was something special and fun. It will carry the same charm of the NES, i think, and that thing certainly didnt need good graphics.
- volfro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The article wasn't exactly Wii-bashing; it was saying that the Wii version looks horrible, whereas the 360 version looks terrific. Nothing wrong with that.
  
  Joystiq got a hands-on of all three versions, though. http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/06/joystiq-hands-on-call-of-duty-3/
  
  According to them, the Wii version is incredibly fun to play, despite the lack of multiplayer and GameCube-quality graphics.
  
  If I had a 360 and was interested in anything Call of Duty, I'd probably buy the 360 version. It's really beautiful and the XBL features look awesome. The Wii will be better for exclusive titles; although I'm sure the Wii version of CoD3 will be fun, the game is meant to be presented cinematically; and evidently, EA didn't spend time optimizing the Wii version for cinematics. A port, unfortunately, is a port.
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"I am sop tired of the Wii bashing based on graphics."
  
  Just like I am of the PS3 getting bashed based on price.
- negativenancy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Just like I am of the PS3 getting bashed based on price".
  
  And other miscellaneous, irrelevant reasons
- triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2the NES had killer graphics for its day.
- Larke2000, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1i'm "sop" tired of people not using the handy dandy digg "check spelling" button.
  
  bad spellers of the internet UNTIE!!!
rhesuspieces00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2dont care. give me shaded-cell platform games.
cclasby, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2The zoom mode where you bring it up to eye level looks cool. I guess we will all have to wait and see; I agree that dating will be a problem, but we have all been playing great games with crappy graphics -- have you taken a look at FF7 on PS1 lately? -- for years so I am not trippin'. Photo realism is for pansies.
piratearggghhh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8It's a fact - Nintendo cuts corners (inferior graphics, no DVD playback etc.) to guarantee a profit since gaming is the only thing it does. You're comparing a system that's worth LESS than $250 (retail price minus production cost) to systems worth MORE than $400 or $600 (true cost minus subsidized retail price). You get what you pay for with the Wii.
- brownb2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I'd add to your comment a damn good system for the price if the graphics clitches in the article are the only things differentiating it from the 360.
- Ravenlock, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5piratearggghhh - true, but I'd argue that the cuts Nintendo has made, in many cases, make sense. I have a DVD player that plays movies just fine. I don't need my gaming system to play DVD's, and I'm glad that I won't have to pay extra for that capability. That's a cost savings to the customer on a functionality most of us just don't need.
- nakke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Seriously, ye olde pirate, do you think anybody was looking forward to buying the Wii because they don't have a DVD player now?
  Other than that, you're right.. But there's no way of measuring how much people are willing to pay for the fun of waving the wiimote, which might not cost much to manufacture.
nakke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2"the difference is so severe that it looks like a different game in some shots"

Um, isn't it pretty much a whole another game, then?
Trat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Dude, I wont even consider buying a game like this. For my Wii I want innovative games, no pc shooters or so...
- nakke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Indeed, same here. I've got this PC for shooters and the like, why'd I buy a Wii for the same stuff?
aadsm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7from gamespot:
"we found the actual shooting gameplay to be more satisfying and skill-based than when played with a standard analog thumb stick. With the more flexible aiming, it became more realistic to switch to iron sights and squeeze off a quick headshot to take out that soldier just barely peeking over the barrier. We're looking forward to getting more time with this and other Wii games to get a better feel for this sort of unique FPS gameplay, which seems to approximate the feel of mouse aiming on the PC."
Bean945, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Mario for Wii, COD for my 360 or PC.
iLEZ, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2What's with the "Wii/Gamecube 2" thing? Is this a fair and balanced article? =)
dignon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4I have to say that the Wii looks way better than I was expecting here. Honestly, this makes me doubt the extra expense for the PS3 and 360 is worth it.
- Nintendo5, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Wii plays better, PC looks better, 360 has consistent &developed online play, nobody knows yet what PS3 has except 1080p movies.
  
  (sorry, I was replying to comment below)
captainjy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1"why are you modding him down? hes right. Games like this will play exactly the same on all three systems, except for the fact that it will look like ass on the wii and probably best on a PS3. The question is if you want to spend 300 dollars more for that extra eye candy."

Probably best on a PS3?!??!! Dude, get your facts straight because from what I am reading right here on this monitor, you don't know jack. You are talking out of your ass and next time, before you make yourself look really dumb, get the facts.

The 360 is hands down, the best value of the three. The PS3's graphics are no better, Sony is force feeding Spew Ray and the Wii is cheap gimmick. The 360 has horsepower and it's perfectly priced. Let's face it, PS3 is overhyped and pricey and Wii is just too adolescent.
- covertbadger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Wow, you went on that much of a rant just because somebody said the PS3 will 'probably' look best? What a prick you are. I just bet you go into incoherent dribbling fury when someone points out the Wii version plays best, like Gamespot did. Here, let me include the quote from above:
  
  "We found the actual shooting gameplay to be more satisfying and skill-based than when played with a standard analog thumb stick." - Gamespot
  
  Wii plays better, PS3 looks better. Remind me why I should buy a 360? I reckon you must be shaking with impotent adolescent rage by now.
DanielNielsen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Its sad that people havent figured it out by now. Nintendo fans dont buy consoles for the graphics, they buy it cause of the innovative new aspects and the gameplay.

And i will be getting a Wii so my 360 can have some company, and no ***** article saying crap about the Wii can change that.
nixfu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4

Man....compared to a PC GAME the 360 looks like GAGGY-HELL to me...
BillDoE, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I think there is more jaggies in this stupid story that there is in the game..lol
mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I think its easy for all of us to sit here and say that bad graphics are fine on the wii as long as the games are good, but I was playing some goldeneye yesterday, as great a game as it is, it looked terrible.
bluto20, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Why do people still compare the Wii to the 360? They are totally different in their own ways. People are scared of change, therefore they lash out at something so new and so different. If you can't handle it, go back to your, lame and nothing's changed, analog controller and STFU!
shane828, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4The Wii is seriously overrated, I laugh at my friends for rushing to get one.
ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Who cares which system has the best shades of green, brown, and grey!?!??!

Personally, I perfer games that are a little more innovative and actually have a decent colour pallet.

COD games have to got to be the ugliest ***** games ever made.
AmishRefugee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4calling it the Gamecube 2 gives this site 0 credibility to provide unbaised opinions unless they also called the 360 the Xbox 2, which they don't

and the difference between the Gamecube and the Wii is night and day compared to the difference between the xbox and the 360
ghostcat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Am I going to buy Cod 3 for the PS3? No, I already have a computer, thank you.
Am I going to buy Cod 3 for the 360? No, I already have a computer, thank you.
Am I going to buy CoD3 for the Wii? Probably not, it'll look better on the pc I already have, and the mouse keyboard combination works pretty well for these types of games. I'll have to read the reviews on the gameplay and see if there is anything really worth checking out.
Will I buy a Wii and at least 4 of their launch titles? Hell yes.

I'm going with the WiiPC combo until the prices come down on the PS3 (by about 1/2) or the 360 gets some really cool exclusive games. (I like Halo, but not THAT much)
cakestick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Don't like it, don't buy it.
theratdotus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1too bad i was only buying zelda on wiis launch date =o)
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