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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -24/+114Not caring about graphics but only game play is like having an ugly girlfriend that's only good in bed.
- theRIAA, on 10/12/2007, -4/+74"dont touch the sharp trees"
- eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -6/+63but is she funny
- Bara, on 10/12/2007, -23/+62^ This coming from someone who has probably never touched a Wii in their life. You have to remember that CoD is a simulator for World War 2, and what makes a game more "simulation"-like than realistic graphics? The Wii version just does not give us that.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+40ho lee *****. i never thought i'd see an anti-wii article in my rss!
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -9/+44To be fair, the PS3 version's trees are just as sharp:
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/801/801848/img_3973328.html - BadassCheese, on 10/12/2007, -8/+42The does look like *****, and I am a 360 fanboy. But this is probably the game maker's fault for a ***** job.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -13/+47no its not. thats just complete *****. FFS just compare the specs. the 360 and ps3 have so much more power than the wii its not even funny.
You can buy a wii for the awesome controller, but dont pretend it has good graphics. - MouseCircus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+41What the Wii is capable of? People are forgetting that Twilight Princess is a GAMECUBE game. I put that in caps for emphasis.
I don't think any game we've seen thus far demonstrates what the Wii is capable of, and we won't see one for at least a year. Developers aren't putting their focus on the graphics this time around. And I'm happy for that. It's also the reason why I brush aside all the idiots who keep insulting Wii graphics. I realize they don't, and never will look as great as 360 or PS3 graphics, but they'll look better than Twilight Princess in a year or two. And that's good enough for me. - Spamiclese, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30Don't forget the lack of online multiplayer support for the Wii. GameInformer mistakenly printed that the Wii version of COD3 will have online capabilities. This was a typo. It will only be single player.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -24/+46why are you modding him down? hes right. Games like this will play exactly the same on all three systems, except for the fact that it will look like ass on the wii and probably best on a PS3. The question is if you want to spend 300 dollars more for that extra eye candy.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25People actually spend thousands of dollars on chess sets.
- Inferny, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23True, but graphics are also a part of gameplay, that said, i still think that gameplay is more important, but i would have more fun shooting a person rather than a block.
- aerogant, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25Honestly with the number of platforms the developers are working on, I'd imagine it being difficult to port the game to a lower end system. It's almost to the point where I would imagine that in order to make a game easy to port, game developers would have to aim for the lowest end first, and then port it to the higher end systems and enhance the game.
The power of the 360 and PS3 is not just graphics, it's in the AI, physics, which are a factor in the number of characters on the screen. It's just a different experience if say one game has 20 enemies in your view (characters and vehicles) with large environments, while on another system it can only have 10 with smaller environments. That means the game has not just to be ported but redesigned.
I like Nintendo's products in general, and this will probably get this post buried, but I feel like they are just falling behind. When am I going to be able to buy my DS games online and download them to a cartridge in my DS like an iPod? I mean I like what I can do with my 360 on xbox live, I want that on my DS! All they have done with the DS lite, is fix the mistakes they made in the first ones. Nintendo is very much like Sony, they both suck at the software end, and are going to end up playing catch up to Microsoft, of all companies (it's usually the other way around :P). - rkettner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Um, "immersive" is NOT the same as "realistic". A game can draw you in without being realistic. Example: World of Warcraft.
- Lane5slacker, on 10/12/2007, -15/+32When will people realize that Nintendo doesn't seriously give a ***** about graphics?
- Kardde, on 10/12/2007, -15/+32We've seen what the Wii is capable of from how Twilight Princess looks. And that's just a first generation game. It's already been said that CoD3 is essentially an X360 game that's just being lazily ported over to other consoles, so it's not too surprising that it doesn't look that great on the Wii. In any case, I wasn't planning on buying it anyway.
- millixaw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20The Phantom Console
Attack of the Jaggies
Hmm...
PlayStation (Episode) 3: Revenge of the Wallet ? - Democritus2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Is there a button to block any story containing the word wii ?
Lots of complaints about Politics on digg. Personally I am sick of the Wii stories. - Agret, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20"Or Ocarina of Time. The textures were unacceptably bad even in that day, but I'll be damned if it still isn't my very favorite game."
Nah the textures were pretty pwn back in the day, you should check it on the PC. 1280x1024 with the high-res texture pack and playing using your XBOX controller. Oh god such a great game :) - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23i see shadows sometimes too. they're caused by the sun and/or lights.
- MouseCircus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+25They do care. But they also believe that graphics are good enough. With the Wii console, they focused on changing the gameplay, because they believe that's what the industry needs before it kills itself.
As I've posted before in various other articles, Miyamoto has already said that their next console will be HD, and they will focus on the graphics. Graphics weren't important to them this time. - nights0223, on 10/12/2007, -15/+30The whole graphics debate is getting a little old. It is like deja vu of the PSP vs DS debate. And we all know how that ended.
- j0keR, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21A port is a port. I mean, they're porting it to a slower system. The same thing can be said for any multi-console port from last generation, including some of those awful PC to xbox ports.
- JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15@ arca
Hardly. Both OoT and Goldeneye were praised as good looking games. Maybe not quite as advanced as the PS1 games of the same genre, but it certainly wasn't the difference that this article presents to us (especially if they had given us that Xbox 360 pic in a higher-res to show high-def compared to SD). - arca, on 10/12/2007, -26/+39For all those who think graphics are king, remember Goldeneye. That game is from... '95 if memory serves? I certainly was playing it in elementary school. The game was fun to play, and the graphics were good for the day, but horrible now.
Or Ocarina of Time. The textures were unacceptably bad even in that day, but I'll be damned if it still isn't my very favorite game.
Graphics are important, but only insofar as they get out of the way of the gameplay. How many of you have played super breakout? Including the few hundred where the maker tried to jazz up the graphics. Unless there was some other innovation, can any of you say that it was any better than just the simplest of graphics?
I like video games, I like video games looking nice, but given the choice of shiny over gameplay? Gameplay always wins. - glitchbit, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16yea it is obvious that they care nothing about making it look good for the Wii. This is the publishers fault. But at the same time I am sure they are also very worried about spending too much development costs on the Wii due to Nintendos horrible reputation among these 3rd Party companies.
In my opinion Nintendo is a very stubborn company who really doesn't care about being supported by 3rd parties so like wise they don't care about supporting them. And ultimately that is why the GC and N64 failed in comparison.
Will the Wii change this? Possibly but I am not holding me breath.... - libradragon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17It's possible that the the Wiimote is the Wii's own worst enemy. Publishers may be thinking that there's so much enphasis on gameplay vs. graphics with this platform that they don't bother focusing on graphic optimizations. I personally am not too thrilled with the propect of jumping around my living room just to play a game. I game to unwind. If the Wiimote can enhance my gaming experience without overwheling me, then I'll be happy. I'm really more interested in the virtual console. I'd rather play Bonk's Adventure, Kid Icarus and other "old school" games --along with the Wii native versions of Nintendo franchise games. Loading up an emulator on my PC is not the same as going console. Sure I could just drop $100 on eBay for a bunch of old consoles and games, but I'm not too eager to hook up a bunch of new ***** to my TV.
- NeoTechni, on 10/12/2007, -13/+23"The whole graphics debate is getting a little old. It is like deja vu of the PSP vs DS debate. And we all know how that ended. "
I own both, and enjoy PSP far more. The games just feel more fully fleshed out, where DS games feel more minigamish. Compare Ace Combat X to Star Fox Command for example. - Mongoose, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Link = pwned.
http://duggmirror.com/gaming_news/Attack_of_the_Jaggies_in_Wii_Call_of_Duty_3/ - deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15I'm sure I'll get dugg down for saying this but the $250 price tag makes the Wii graphics a relevant gripe. If it was $150-$175 then yeah... you get what you pay for but at $250 I feel like I should be getting a significant visual upgrade and not just a fancy controller. I'll probably get a Wii eventually but I can't justify the $250 price tag for what looks like current-gen graphics without mutliplayer support in launch titles.
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10There's more at play here than just the lower power of the Wii. This is also a really poor quality port to lower power hardware.
- Stalks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10zetsurin, your sarcasm radar is malfunctioning.
- daborg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"You can buy a wii for the awesome controller, but dont pretend it has good graphics."
Exactly... If you want good graphics, play on your PC. If you want a fun console, buy a Wii.
It's quite simple really. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14I see a shadow. look closely
- MicrowavedH2o, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14regardless of how it looks and who's fault it is-----
awesome graphics and fast processor != amount of fun from playing. - aadsm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7from gamespot:
"we found the actual shooting gameplay to be more satisfying and skill-based than when played with a standard analog thumb stick. With the more flexible aiming, it became more realistic to switch to iron sights and squeeze off a quick headshot to take out that soldier just barely peeking over the barrier. We're looking forward to getting more time with this and other Wii games to get a better feel for this sort of unique FPS gameplay, which seems to approximate the feel of mouse aiming on the PC." - negativenancy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The PSP actually did quite well considering that Nintendo has had a complete headlock on the portable game industry for the past oh so many years. Nintendo and the Gameboy IS synonymous with handheld gaming.
- volfro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The article wasn't exactly Wii-bashing; it was saying that the Wii version looks horrible, whereas the 360 version looks terrific. Nothing wrong with that.
Joystiq got a hands-on of all three versions, though. http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/06/joystiq-hands-on-call-of-duty-3/
According to them, the Wii version is incredibly fun to play, despite the lack of multiplayer and GameCube-quality graphics.
If I had a 360 and was interested in anything Call of Duty, I'd probably buy the 360 version. It's really beautiful and the XBL features look awesome. The Wii will be better for exclusive titles; although I'm sure the Wii version of CoD3 will be fun, the game is meant to be presented cinematically; and evidently, EA didn't spend time optimizing the Wii version for cinematics. A port, unfortunately, is a port. - estvir, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9> It must be a pretty crappy game if you spend your time thinking about textures ,shadows and 'jaggies'.
Err, not it doesn't. It just happens in this specific story the topic are the graphics. - Modulo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/2310
your wish is granted, long live Jambi
(you need greasemonkey and firefox) - OdysseusSMS, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13Drizek - "why are you modding him down? hes right. Games like this will play exactly the same on all three systems, except for the fact that it will look like ass on the wii and probably best on a PS3. The question is if you want to spend 300 dollars more for that extra eye candy."
Untrue, Call Of Duty 3 plays very differently for the Wii and supposedly takes good advantage of the controller. Activision built the Wii version around the different controller. They also added a gameplay element for the PS3 version with the tilt controller, but it sounds like that was tacked on. (You can tilt the PS3 controller to bash enemies with the butt of your gun.) - igotdugout, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10"Exactly... If you want good graphics, play on your PC. If you want a fun console, buy a Wii."
WTF? So none of the XBox or PS3 consoles have any fun games? What the ***** is with you Wii zealots? Xbox and PS systems always had just as fun or better games than Nintendo, and vice versa. Except as an added bonus, the other xbox and ps consoles generally has better graphics to play those fun games in.
Is affordable console = fun games, and expensive console = ***** games the new trend now? Honestly, the people that think so are retarded. - navster15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5But therein lies our problem. As games in the upcoming generation get more advanced and more power hungry on the PS3 and Xbox 360, publishers may decide that porting to the Wii, and stripping out assets, would not be cost effective. We may then have the situation with the GameCube repeat itself, where gamers will only buy it for games published by Nintendo.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14Don't blame the Wii for something that's the developers fault. If the graphics look sitty it's because activision was too lazy. Even RE4 for the GC looks better!
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/736/736454/red-steel-20060928055015400.jpg
http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/707/707397/super-mario-galaxy-20060510043925405.jpg - IdanE, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings. That being said, the DS is selling much better than the PSP all over the world. I own both and play the DS more than the PSP. The PSP is a really great console, but DS is where the games are at. We even got 2 final fantasies and and a seiken densetsu game coming from square - and they've been sony fanboys for around a decade.
- eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I don't think you've used tough ***** properly there...
- nakke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Indeed, same here. I've got this PC for shooters and the like, why'd I buy a Wii for the same stuff?
- piratearggghhh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8It's a fact - Nintendo cuts corners (inferior graphics, no DVD playback etc.) to guarantee a profit since gaming is the only thing it does. You're comparing a system that's worth LESS than $250 (retail price minus production cost) to systems worth MORE than $400 or $600 (true cost minus subsidized retail price). You get what you pay for with the Wii.
- seansshack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The Wii version looks like a step back to last gen +1. The pic in the advert with the guy aiming the rifle looks like it would may play more difficult. Imagine a couple of hours play like that?
You get what you pay for I guess. The Wii is a fun idea on low end specs. The games will be a lesser experience because of reduced graphics, sound, AI and physics. But you will interact differently with the controller. -
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