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- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -22/+40015. Myth: This article is worth reading.
- Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -24/+190Anyone who says Console FPS is just as good as PC FPS games is a moron. They've had 64-player online matches on PCs for years and years, as well as voice comm, free downloadable mods, and basically everything else is way better on a PC.
- HalFTW, on 10/12/2007, -9/+127Only eye opening for gullible a retard.
Half these myths arnt even about the gaming industry. "MYTH: Porn will settle the next-gen DVD war" WTF?
"In fact, FASA is enabling Xbox 360-to-Windows multiplayer in their upcoming shooter, Shadowrun. And they don't seem too worried about an uneven playing field between the mouse and the Xbox 360 controller."
Yeah, because the xbox players with be using ***** built in aimbots. A gamepad can't come close to a mouse in a competitive FPS, no matter what Vicious Sid tries to delude you into thinking. - greenninjalo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+71"PC elitists often argue that first-person shooters are intended to be played with a mouse and keyboard, and that no console controller can match this flexibility. This is false."
Wow. I stopped reading right there. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+59yeah that one about FPS being as equal using a joystick VS a keyboard and mouse just make the whole article loses all credibility. Are you ***** serious? just switching weapons alone is a pain in the ass using a controller. Take a game like Unreal Tournament where you have to switch weapons fast to launch rockets, built up notes, anti personel, anti viacle... do you think a person with a joystick and 8 or so buttons can hang with a pc player?
- stappawho, on 10/12/2007, -9/+57I disagree.
If you spend the time to tune your TV properly a CRT WILL have a better picture.
I'm sure you still have your brightness and contrast turned way up and think it looks good.
I guess it's a personal preference for the most part though. - dimension, on 10/12/2007, -9/+52I totally disagree with a lot of these "myths".
Sometimes third party controllers are better. You get what you pay for usually. Yes, a 4.99 gamepad won't be as good as the original.
At the top level of gaming, a mouse/keyboard user will blow a controller user out of the water. I don't care that some company is enabling this, it doesn't make it right. Every console user that has grown up with a controller in their hand has switched to keyboard and mouse when playing FPS on a PC.
warranties: Writer doesn't have a three year old. Although I agree it is statistically better to avoid the warranty, it really depends on your situation, the product in question, and your overall clutzyness. Although people will argue if you break it the warranty won't cover it anyway, they don't necessarily have to know that if it isn't completely obvious.
Cheat codes: In the past this was true. Cheating is a huge industry now. Selling cheat books and getting you code printed in a magazine is free advertisement for your game. QA people don't need codes for the various functions in games, they can all be done in developer/test systems and computers now. Nothing prevents them of removing codes after the QA process is done. Sometimes they are left out for game designer philosophical reasons.
In the past wireless controllers were a lot less reliable then they are today. Technology has changed this. While it is a myth today, not so 10 years ago when batteries and wireless systems were absolutely technologically inferior.
You don't have to spend 500 on a video card, but it helps. Take two people of higher equal skill and put one a more technologically advanced computer the one with the better computer will have the advantage,. especially if it is a newer game where frames per second become an issue. - Duositex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43Article said best *analog* cable is component. I digg you down.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42Hell, we *all* lend a "helping hand" when porn is involved.
- Jwoey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30i wouldnt call most of the consumer misconceptions either, I'd call them 'opinions'.
- Vironex, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34Do your job, then.
- dissident, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30the only thing I really agree with is the controller thing... no PC controller I've ever purchased from logitech or whoever has performed as well as an N64 of PSX2 controller with an adapter. Third party knockoffs just suck... even good logitechs suck.. their buttons stick and their analog sticks are piss poor...
- scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26The FPS on consoles thing blew my mind. Because consoles have "sticky crosshairs" that evens it up? LULZ.
- libertao, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24You can do it, just keep trying.
- Duositex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22@OminousG
Beg pardon..
"MYTH: VGA output is better than component video."
It had nothing to do with HDMI/DVI being inferior in any way. In fact, the previous paragraph states:
"If your TV supports it, you should always shoot for component cables, a VGA cable, or DVI/HDMI."
So whats your point now? - Epik, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26Once Shadrowrun is released Microsoft will see how much of an advantage PC users have over Xbox users. It's not even close or a matter of opinion.
Mouse > controller hands down. - shadowself, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Are there any Diggers who seriously do not believe that keyboard/mouse is better for FPS games? Playing a FPS game with a gamepad is only slightly better, in my opinion, than playing one with a steering wheel.
- fpssledge, on 10/12/2007, -8/+28yeah this article is pretty opinionated. Like arguing whether blondes or brunettes are hotter. It's completely subjective.
CRT may (on average) be better in quality than LCD's, but LCD's with ALWAYS be better on the human eye. (meaning, it's more relaxing) That's a fact. They also use 1/3 of the power.
FPS on controller vs. keyboard/mouse? Please. The day console gamers and PC gamers can play in the same games/servers is the day this with truely be put to the test. - autocrawler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21There was such a test already: Quake 3 for Dreamcast. Crossplatform play with the PC version was supported there. While I can't personally testify for it, the DC players using controllers simply got destroyed.
Also, Shadowrun's developers are tweaking the game in favor of the controller. It actually might turn out that controller players might have an easier time playing with the "turn rate nerf" for mouse controls, strong autoaim, et cetera in place. Of course, if it wasn't being tweaked in such a way, the Kb/M players would easily destroy any consolers. - jekimball, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22I wish they would have covered my favorite video game myth...... that you can jump over the flag pole in super mario brothers...........i think it is a lie.
- blahtastic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Big HD CRT>HD Plasma>You. But I digress. I have yet to see a plasma television with excellent HD and standard def picture. Let alone one without some graying of blacks (though that's inevitable). My HD CRT however, can play high def 360, wii, and standard cable television and make them all look exquisite. Give that a shot with a big plasma screen. Thats where they really have an edge. Unfortunately my television also weighs about 275 pounds and is around 2 feet deep...
- daborg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19"Flickering is not an issue. Every HDTV I can think of de-interlaces 1080i60 to 1080p60 before displaying it."
You mean it de-interlaces 1080i60 to 1080p30? - leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I am a PC gamer, strictly first person shooters too. I would totally trounce a console player with even my five dollar mouse. And as you said, the video card is important. Framerate is everything. When mine drops below 30fps, my K/D ratio goes way way down.
But I think his point is that the experience of playing on a console will do the game plenty of justice. - crazyspaceman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Sticky cross-hairs a spectacular argument. Essentially saying, "The consoles are just as good cause they do the work for us".
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Get your cables from Radio Shack? please.... $15 for an svideo cable? $80 for component? no way....
Just go to ebay and get the cheapest you can find, you will never ever see a difference, and you can get yourself another (wireless) controller for the money you save. - Tunguska, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Does the writer think he is great Merlin of the Wisdoms or something? What gives him the right to debunk myths without even doing scientific tests.
- Bahimiron, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Not only does an HD CRT process an HD signal better than a plasma or LCD TV, but the HD CRT is the only one of the three that can give you a non-HD picture that doesn't look like crap.
You can work with it. Work with it all you want! But when you toss up a non-HD basic cable channel (such as Comedy Central) up on a high def LCD display, it's going to look like ass. It's enough to make you wish you'd stuck with the crappy old 27" Trinitron you had before the HD display.
(HD broadcasts totally make up for it, though.) - edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Every, EVERY, comparison of 1080i to 720p i've seen that has favoured 720p has completely ignored the issue of horizontal resolution. 1920 is quite a bit more than 1280.
Going by number of pixels;
1920x560 = 1075200 pixels
1280*720 = 921600
Flickering is not an issue. Every HDTV I can think of de-interlaces 1080i60 to 1080p60 before displaying it. - Klarth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11These aren't really myths about the gaming industry as much as they are little consumer misconceptions. I was hoping for something related to developers.
- Ender008, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9In my case, I used to never use wireless controllers, as i found them laggy. However I bought a 360, and after trying the wireless, I now only use it for the 360. It is just as responsive a a wired controller. (I have the microsoft controller)
You probably had a bad experience because the controllers you bought were 3rd party. So I have to conclude that your problem lies in the company that made it. I'd recommend wired for last gen, and wireless for a 360 (having no experience with wireless PS3 if they exist, excuse my ignorance). The wii controller is and always will be wireless, and from playing my friends wii, it's incredibly responsive, so nothing to worry about there.
(And by the way, I say current gen because all major systems are out, and xbox is out of production. I'd say that warrants an upgrade :D)
If you can pay the extra money for a 1st party controller, I'd say it's definitely worth it. - nickbender, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8while there are a *few* good points... most of the article is stuff that most nerds already know either through experience or throug a quick gleeful prance aroudn arstechnica. Also, the PC still IS the best place for shooters based ont he fact that eye hand coordination with your full arm is proven time and time again to be quicker in both response and accuracy.
I love GoW just as much as the next guy... but give me a mouse for that mother and the game instantly becomes 10x easier. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8GamePro sucks ass.
- masona3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Marked as inaccurate.
The FPS comment made me laugh out loud. What a sad, sad fanboy. The truth of the matter is that consoles are and will always be inferior to computers in terms of their range of control and their graphic/audio power. - stopple, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9this article is rubbish.. seems like a bunch of uncited opinion to me
- zyphaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The Dreamcast's Quake 3 had their own DC Mouse/KB and all the controller kiddies could do was scream 'hax!'. While the player base was no where near your idea of a 'grand scale', the sample size was more than sufficient to give us an idea of what will happen again.
- Bahimiron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Not a bad article, though the VGA thing is complete nonsense.
A TV will have different built in settings for the different input styles. The reason VGA will look ***** up is that the VGA input needs you to adjust it before you start running anything on it.
I have a very nice LCD HDTV and I recently was given 360 VGA cables for my birthday. I went ahead and hooked them up, popped in a THX Test DVD (several DVDs have THX Tests on them, such as Finding Nemo) and adjusted the video until it passed the tests. Since then, I love the damn thing. It's gorgeous. You just gotta work for it.
(I have also used several awesome third party controllers and I can also say that without 'sticky aim' tricks, FPS aiming on consoles is far less precise than with a mouse and keyboard. This is all nonsense. Buried as inaccurate.) - sctechguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This "article" is just useless.
- Gnolfo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah, unless the developers do everything they can to even the field in favor of consoles (huge sticky targetting, simple even levelled terrain, etc), the mice have it.
To give one example why: rotation speed. You can (and learn to) instantly spin around to any angle with a mouse. Check your 6 o'clock, your 4 o'clock, etc. Console controllers usually have a fixed speed that is always slower than dirt. To speed it up they either need to make it too sensitive and finicky, or add some acceleration system which ends up the same way, or come up with some other awkward scheme that will always be more ungainly than just a swish of your wrist. PC players will learn to run circles around their opponents. A console player attacked somewhere from behind will always be at a much larger disadvantage than a PC player in the same scenario. - thatsmyaibo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9As much as I know you guys love to slam on Sony, Blu-ray is actually selling way more than HD DVD. And throwing Talledega Nights into the first shipment boxes doesn't mess with the numbers in anyway. Sales are calculated according to how many units retailers purchase for resale.
- acdcfanbill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Ya I'd like to some some of those controller users perform complex strafe jumping while shooting people on Q3 with their controller.
- staticneuron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8That would be true if these sales were attributed to november and december only. But they are not. And blu ray sales continue to climb.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/Disc_Sales/Finally:_VideoScan_Releases_High-Def_Disc_Sales_Numbers_/456 - matariel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Stating that a gamepad is just as good as a keyboard/mouse for FPS is simply retarded.
Using a mouse you can aim faster and more accurately. Nuff said.
Using a keyboard you can switch weapons much faster, especially in games like Q3 and Ureal where you have 5 or 6 weapons you are constantly changing between on the fly.
I'd like to see someone on a gamepad strafe jumping, doing multiple weapon switches while fragging someone all in the span of a few seconds. It's not going to happen. You'd be dead by the time you managed to analog stick your crosshair to me.
This is why console FPS games are so bland to a PC gamer who tries to play them. They're so dumbed down for the console gamepad.
As for third party gamepads, Hori makes some fantastic controllers. - straxus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You're right. It's world 3-3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ9LOCf1bJQ - sphetr2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Actually, this is possible. I read it in this book called "Retro Gaming Hacks". You have to do it on a specific level, though (can't remember which). Unfortunately, nothing special happens. The bricks and sky just keep repeating.
- Ibanezfoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5LAME! The nail in the coffin on lameness was when he said to go to Radio Shack to upgrade your cables.... what a douche.
- Xorp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Good article cept a gamepad will NEVER be able to touch a mouse and keyboard setup. Maybe there is not much difference for casual nubs, but for anyone who plays to win, keyboard and mouse is untouchable. Have a expert gamepad user play a expert keyboard and mouse user in Counter-Strike, Quake 3/4, Halo etc... the gamepad player will never beat the keyboard and mouse user.
- nubnub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Mouse & Keyboard > Controllers. Marked as lame for that.
- grumbel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4ACK about the cheat thing. The full debug menus present in the development builds almost never make it into the final game, what makes it into the final games are cheats specifically designed for the players and of course also for advertisement. When a game is a few month old it is often already forgotten, by releasing some extra cheat codes it is easy to give the game a bit extra publicity, its not much, but since it comes for free its a welcome addition.
VGA vs Composite depends from my experience heavily on the TV in use, on mine VGA so far has the best picture quality. - vblvbl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6All neat, except the part about controllers and mouse+keyboard being even remotely equal.
- azAZ09, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4When did the concept of a "Gamer", or even "Video-Game Consumer" become synonymous with a console gamer?
I really resent the "PC-Elitist" comment. This article is so wrong on so many levels. Myths Debunked? -- /please/.
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