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- bantam, on 10/12/2007, -4/+65Good. I hate cheaters
- TreasureChest, on 10/12/2007, -16/+50Don't take it too seriously or you'll end up like this guy:
http://digg.com/gaming/World_of_Warcraft_-_Raid_Leader_goes_Crazy - jawadde, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2@ TreasureChest : that was madly funny :-) amazing how that guy freaks out !
- Xalorous, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3That was perhaps the funniest flash I've ever seen.
- jawadde, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3someone please mod parent comment up : i hope that link makes it to the frontpage !
- Starch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2wow that was great! reminded me of a raid leader we used to have .. good guy, but got really emotional. He was from Norway , I believe, and we always made fun of his crazy accent ('nuclear wessels')
- TreasureChest, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6haha glad you all liked it, if you haven't had enough here's some more:
http://digg.com/gaming/World_of_Warcraft_-_Raid_Leader_goes_Crazy_-_Part_2 - wax0r, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Haha, didn't think it could get any crazier but he outdoes himself. It really kicks off at 1 minute into the soundbyte ;)
- ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1@TreasureChest,
Please make an animation for Part 2, that would be awesome. Thx! - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"You are in exactly one ***** position, 2...1... ***** play....if you are somewhere else from where you are suppose to be.... (inaudible) is that ***** clear...that was the saddest ***** attempt i've even seen (inaudible) your spread out all over the ***** map, that's the ***** place you stand, i'm ***** 39 degree temperature....(inaudible, calming down)"
That guy is nuts... - architectzero, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Holy crap, TreasureChest, if you know that guy, get him some meds.
Both parts were psycho.
/ I'm old
- TreasureChest, on 10/12/2007, -16/+50Don't take it too seriously or you'll end up like this guy:
- thedead, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5Good! they do not deserve to play...plus WOW is a BRUUTAL game :)
- SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21The patch didn't ban them, if you'd READ the post you would have notice they said SINCE patch 1.10
And it's real interesting that you all are saying "Good for them" when a week or so ago everyone was saying what BS it was that they banned a player for using macros to farm points...- bort, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Correct, but still makes me happy!
- bantam, on 10/12/2007, -16/+31.10 just came out my friend, like last week.
- Anth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Yea but Blizzard was using a very blurred line to ban that guy. Its one thing to ban people using bots and whatnot, its quite easy to justify it, "You were running X program which does Y against the TOS." Whereas using the Macros on a keyboard is a but blurry. Use them to switch weapons, cast a spell, thats OK. Use it for a bit more? Maybe, if we catch you..
- heresy_fnord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@bort
I don't even play the game anymore and it still makes me happy. - aguita, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@Anth
You do realize that the guy was not at his keyboard? The GM's sent him tells and he did not respond. He had set the keyboard to automate lvling his weapon skill. Basically, it was playing for him and he didn't respond when asked about it. That is botting and against the ToS. - vince, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Trust me no one wants there acount banned, and if around 54000 banned and your not one of them sure your ganna kiss ass to the company. or maybe there just dont want the company to ban them for backing on there word, damn WOW is like a goverment and the users are the people.
- xmuskrat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2"In keeping with Blizzard’s aggressive stance against cheating in World of Warcraft, we have since patch 1.10 banned over 5400 accounts and suspended 10700"
If they ban people "since 1.10" then all of the banning has been during the 1.10 patch. - Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0no not everyone was. a few people were. the rest of us realize he broke the rules and it is tough ***** for him...
- ormandj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0"If they ban people "since 1.10" then all of the banning has been during the 1.10 patch."
You can't *do* something *during* a *patch*. All this banning has occured *after* the 1.10 patch. The patch was deployed. That is called *patching*. You are now playing on WoW servers, running *insert name of WoW server software* at patchlevel 1.10. "Patch 1.10" is not something that specifies a time, you can't do something *during* it. "After", "Since", "Following", etc - patch 1.10...... would work.
- joeyjojo, on 10/12/2007, -10/+10WoW is a fascinating political/societal study.
- gedankenus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7so is the real world.
- Henge, on 10/12/2007, -28/+9LEEEEROOOY JENKINS!!!
- Jorenko, on 10/12/2007, -33/+3Hay guys have u herd of this thing with bases bing all arz it sso funnay lol
- sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13Hopefully this will restore some balance to the economies on the realms.
- tehJR, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19haha you sound like a character from Star Trek
- Brennan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Do you have any idea what you're talking about or do you just like to say words hoping someone will think you're smart?
- dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -27/+7Who cares some nerds are upset.
- bantam, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2As i said before it seems some people see this as some type of bull ***** number, saying SINCE that patch. Well that patch came out about a week ago.
- Stegg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Good for Blizzard.
- jdavid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4this was on blizzards front page as of monday or tuesday
- Tyler.H, on 10/12/2007, -16/+6 I used to leave a fishbot on overnight and by the morning I would have about 200 fish that would sell for about 40g. I love bots because it keeps you from actually sitting at your computer and get out a little.
- scispaz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9If you don't enjoy playing the game yourself, don't play it.
It is the easy way to get out and do stuff without being a jerk to those who enjoy the game, - Tyler.H, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4How is not playing the game being a jerk?
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4By ruining the economy. The only way the guy who actually spent 5 hours in front of his computer can sell his stuff is by selling it for cheaper than what you cheated to get. It's as if you decided to make counterfeit money, and then wondered why it's wrong.
Besides, how does your arguement "let me get out every once in a while" apply when you do it while you sleep? And who says you needed that 40g you cheated to get anyway?
- scispaz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9If you don't enjoy playing the game yourself, don't play it.
- JiveTurkeyPunk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Those poor chinese gold farmers....
- Pennemu, on 10/12/2007, -25/+4Why the hell is this on digg? Anyone who cares about this will most likely visit a site that already has this information on it.
- alexzizka, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2@ pennemu
it may have came out a week ago, but the patch only aloud Blizzard to Ban 5400 people, and suspend 10700 of them, so its irrelevant if it came out a week ago.- SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1FFS!!! THE PATCH DIDN'T BAN THEM!!! RTFA!!!
"we have since patch 1.10 banned over 5400 accounts and suspended 10700 more for participating in activities that violate the game’s Terms of Use"
Bunch of savages in this town.... - Xalorous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Patches don't ban people, people ban people.
[thumbs down for horrible word substitution (aloud for allowed). Go to school, learn some grammar, then abuse us with your wisdom. ]
- SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1FFS!!! THE PATCH DIDN'T BAN THEM!!! RTFA!!!
- shaka999, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4So I wonder if there was something added in the 1.10 patch that helped them identify the cheaters?
- v0id, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7thank you captain obvious...
- Starch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3no, i believe it was something they added a few patches ago; something that ran in the background and supposedly picked up third-party cheating apps.
- lizard_king, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3aptly named 'The Warden'
- gol706, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I have notice that now right after you log in it says something like "Submitting Anonymous Information" for a split second.
- CaptainMal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Anonymous information that can be used to identify you if you're cheating.
Ummm, yeah that's real anonymous.
- FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Botters are like drunk drivers. If you know what to look for you can spot them all over. Only a very small minority of them ever get caught. There are way more than 10k, probably a few 100k. And there is no way they will ban that many people, it would hurt their revenue too much.
- heresy_fnord, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Not really, they'll just have new people join their servers and pay for the game to play.
So yeah, they'll really leave that many banned. The game is far too popular for them to have to worry about something like losing customers any time soon. - nmap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I disagree, you can't claim that the loss of the cheating players will be made up by new players. The banning of cheaters will in my opinion, only have a small effect on the amount of new players joining the game. Without bannings, Blizzard would get revenue from both the cheaters and the new player (at least in the short term).
Only a proportion of the cheaters will choose to buy a new copy of the game, certainly many cheaters, who cheat because they are bored, will take the oppertunity to move on.
- heresy_fnord, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Not really, they'll just have new people join their servers and pay for the game to play.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This is one of the reasons I love WoW. Asheron's Call let (and in some cases helped) cheaters. It made the game such crap. There are good reasons so many people play WoW. This is one of them.
- muleking, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Anyone else think that at level 60 this game becomes brutally tedious and completly focused on aquiring some dumb item that is going to be replaced by somthing better in a week?
I gave the game a shot for a few months, the servers sucked and the end game makes me wonder how people are still paying to play it.- DrWho, on 10/12/2007, -8/+45 Million still.
I no longer play it. - Starch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6i agree, the end-game left much to be desired. I played for about 8 months and had a good time, met tons of cool people in chat and over voip. No regrets.
- Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Go ahead and name me an MMO with good end game content....
- terminalpariah, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@Durrok: Guild Wars. Between the two entrances to the Underworld, the Fissure of Woe and Sorrow's Furnace, there's lots to do. Not to mention the four new(ish) elite quests. And don't get me started on PvP.
- fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4At level 60?!
Hell, this game became brutally tedious by level 10. - alecperkins, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@Durrok, EVE:Online by CCP doesn't seem to have a true end-game yet, and they keep adding content/gameplay options
www.eve-online.com - jarofclay, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0WoW started getting great at lvl 60. PvP is fun. Raiding cities with a group is fun. The battlegrounds are a blast. The change on the instance cap lets me do dungeons without being in some hardcore 24/7 guild. I can play casually and turn questing into gold (new in 1.10 patch). Blizzard keeps making the game better and better. ~Still playing.
- DrWho, on 10/12/2007, -8/+45 Million still.
- mikev, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Blizzard is so picky about their game and players. Just let them playing I beleive they are restricting it too much soon only females born in the small village of Menetes in Karpathos, Greece that have blonde hair and are 15 years 7 months of age can only play wow.
- CaptainMal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2If only Digg were as picky!!
- Sophren, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Looks like they're cracking down on those G15 keyboards..
- Xalorous, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Blizzard should be leading the pack on finding and eliminating cheats. After all, Diablo was one of the first online games with massive widespread cheating.
- neouser99, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5i can't quite get over all the totally l4mz0r posts inside that WoW thread.. sr sly :)
on the serious side, anyone else notice the maturity level of all the people in that thread? it seemed that none of them really had anything to offer, other than 'first post' or 'first page' or 'great'... i guess coming from a higher maturity level i would rather read about things that make sense instead of wasting needless amounts of time searching for the posts that really mattered or had something to say. it makes me really value the good affect that 'digg'ing individual posts has created.- CaptainMal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7First Reply!
- rderveloy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Reported as inaccurate. The patch didn't ban the players, the players were banned by GMs after the patch was released.
- Izzie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4+1
I wish posters could write. - xmuskrat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2If they ban people "since 1.10" then all of the banning has been during the 1.10 patch.
- rderveloy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@xmuskrat:
"If they ban people "since 1.10" then all of the banning has been during the 1.10 patch."
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Um... duh! But that doesn't mean the patch banned anyone! Game patches in MMO's don't ban or suspend accounts. Bans and suspensions are done by game moderators.
The forum post itself blatently says that it was Blizzard who banned the accounts after the patch was released.
- Izzie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4+1
- DarthDaddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Someone should ban Blizzard for their recent lack of technical stability.
- Squidly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've noticed that many many farmers have completely disappeared. On Azgalor server, Ashzara and Felwood used to be littered with them. Completely gone now. No more identically equipped female rogues farming satrys 24x7.
There was also a hack that enabled hunters to teleport around and solo the Gordock King in Dire Maul. They've evidently done something about this too, as the prices of Major Mana potions hve shot up through the roof (the king's chest had Major Mana pots in it, and it was farmed so heavily that the price dropped on these items in the auction house.) - Pictographer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I suppose it's too hard, but I'd like to see a game company create a server with an open api and only two rule: you pay for the resources you rent on the servers and you don't prevent others from doing likewise. May the best UI or AI win, get rich, whatever.
- nmap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1interesting idea, but which company has the courage to try it?
- Persol, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I like that idea very much.
Asheron's call came surprising close. You could automate just about everything. Bots were almost a 'feature'. Needed to get to the otherside of the world? Ask a bot and they'll teleport you. Need a buff? Ask a bot. etc etc.
Then they killed the plugin that alowed this, and the game population dropped. I found it to tedious afterwards. The bots really made that game more fun.
- streetstealth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It's good to see Blizz taking these steps, but they still haven't dealt with what I consider the biggest obstacle to enjoyment of the game:
It's time to do something about these mean-spirited, puppy-kicking, kitten-stomping gankers whose perverse pleasure it is to insta-kill players half their level and camp their corpses. I know PVP servers are supposed to be dangerous, and I'd love to go out into contested areas to be ambushed into a fair fight -- but this is just ridiculous.
These maladjusted people have sociological problems, and it's time Blizz found a way to keep PVP fun for all levels, not just 60s.- SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6If you have that big of a problem with it, go to a PVE and then just hit the Battlegrounds or PVP raids when you're feeling froggy.
- fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@streetstealth
"I'd love to go out into contested areas to be ambushed into a fair fight."
I believe that's an oxymoron.
@silentbobsc
... or report the offenders for griefing, if it's really that excessive and mean-spirited. - CaptainMal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, because when I'm paying 15 bux a month for a game, what I want to do is play babysitter to the hundreds of childish ganker 12-yr olds and go around reporting everyone.
The "non" PVP servers are a fine place for anyone who doesn't want to babysit though. I don't have a problem that the other servers exist. It isn't any fun playing on them though. Especially if your playtime is limited. - nmap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There are plenty of ways to avoid griefers, and you accept the possibility this may happen when you choose to play on a PvP server (it's part of the fun in my opinion, and i'm only lvl 27). The game is easy enough as it is (time > skill).
If this is still too much for you, you always have the option to play on a PvE server.
- hcetrepus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I for one will put up with the shoddy service, and an extra wait time to authenticate, if it means getting those who wrongly farmand sell gold online kicked off. WTG Blizz!
- CoolSilver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Wow it looks like all you need to be banned is a shallow accusation and a email address to send it.
- Roscoe1976, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3There are a ton of farmers that still get away with this game though. The admins are pretty naive IMO.
- Johnbinarystar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1The Grind in GrindKraft must be perserved at all costs. Without grind, there is nothing.
- CaptainMal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Clearly you've never played any other MMO in your life.
- berean, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1https://addons.mozilla.org/rss/firefox/themes/popular/
What's up with the Firefox themes and extensions pages? It's been like this for a couple days. - drdewm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I played EQ original to a very high level in the day Plane of Time etc and I think its ok for people to spend a huge amount of time in at least one or two mmorpgs. You learn to network with people, schedule large groups and pay close attention to detail. But you have to be careful not to get caught up in an endless experience that bcomes purly entertainment after a while. Give it a year or two but then stop and experience other things.
- firehydra2k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1That's why I don't play MMOs. There is no point because people will find ways to cheat all the time. Plus you don't gain anything from it.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Why stop at MMOs, why bother playing any online game then?
Some people are dicks, and if they can find a way to cheat, they'll do it regardless of the genre.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Why stop at MMOs, why bother playing any online game then?
- WickedDrag0oN, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Ironicly 5399 of thoes accounts that were banned were all from asian mining camps. The 5400th account banned was that kid with the macro keyboard.
In other news 10,699 of the people were suspended for saying "sh" while the 10,700th was suspended for saying "it." - Cronorex, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I'd love to say that I'm proud of this, but I've recently had two guild mates suspended for 72 hours (one twice), and another had their account completely banned for nothing. The suspensions were annoying, but they deleted an account that had every trade skill at 300 on various characters with the associated play time. This person was a hard-core WoWer that just isn't starting over.
Grats Blizz, you're losing business.- jarofclay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I am glad Blizzard banned your cheating buddies.
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3There programmers are out of control. I don't play the game but I work on bots for the game.
Ever since they they created there new process watcher its been hard to hide your bot in the
same process thread.
The only work around now is to run the OS completely virtual.
Fishing bots still work using this method but combat is kind of shaky.- SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yeah, absolutely out of control! They should allow people like you to cheat their system and destroy the experience for the rest of us....
By the way, did I mention ***** YOU - thecwin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Not that I honestly support bots or anything, but couldn't a bot use rootkit-like techniques, hooking the kernel to prevent it from appearing in process lists? I don't know much about how Windows NT works though.
Imagine how difficult it would be to prevent cheating in Linux.. would "trusted computing" or DRM all through the kernel be the only way to do that sort of thing? :O Otherwise users could just screw up their own kernel and put bot code inside it, if it came to it...
Seriously though.. can't you just respect the other players and not release botting tools to others. If you're going to do it, just do it for educational value... for the sake of the other users.
- SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yeah, absolutely out of control! They should allow people like you to cheat their system and destroy the experience for the rest of us....
- Vorbis, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2who cares. people are way to obsessed with WoW. get a life.
- CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5banned from wow? they just did their lives a major favor.
- pagit, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Banned from WOW.
Maybe they will get a job, find a girlfriend, move out of Mom and Dad's basement and get some colour to their CRT & LCD tanned faces. - revenant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3burn cheaters burn!!!!! MUaahahahahahaha! :D
- RazorEddie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Something about drops and buckets comes to mind.
- Megladon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2WOW! Nice digg, sucks to be the people banned, are all of em cheaters though?
- vvvv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And of course all the google ads attached to this story are for companies selling WoW gold and levelling services. The struggle continues...
- 1337diggster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1In other news, the Chinese economy is on the brink of collapse.
- joxrox22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0The wise man plays Oblivion. The foolish spends $15.00 a month to play online and gets banned for cheating. Plus the cost of the game.
- RetroActive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1on a side note WOW is now shutting down cause they only have 3 players left. lol
to hell with cheaters in any game. - sjstclair, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Blizzard Rules
- UnderLoK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's sad that they don't do a better job catching the cheaters considering the revenue that this game generates. It is absolutely INSANE...
- |ant|, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looks like my choice of Guild Wars is still looking solid. No problems, free gameplay, and an entertaining game.
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