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- panocha, on 10/12/2007, -53/+2this is fukin *****
i am seriously pissed- paulmetzger, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9why?
- blueigloo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6chill out - they likely will remain as a seperate entity, just managed by sega.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Secret Level only made the console version of AA, Rise of a Soldier. They also have done a few other games in years past, from memory I think they ported Unreal Tournament to Dreamcast.
They are *not* the developers of the PC version of America's Army. AA is developed by a team at the MOVES Institute: http://www.nps.navy.mil/moves/
- panocha, on 10/12/2007, -54/+1this is total *****
i am seriously pissed - teamparadox, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1215 mil doesnt sound like too much when you consider they were non profit and their only game was free.
- paulmetzger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5was the military paying them anything for their recruiting tool?
- jjk5, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Oh please. It's been said before that America's Army has shown little or no effect on recruitment levels. Just enjoy the free game. You're not being brainwashed.
- zediker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Of course the military was paying them. This was a development studio, and the military payed them to develop it for them. The military then took the product they payed for and distributed it freely to the masses. 15 mil makes sense to me.
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You should have read the article before you left that comment.
America's Army might be a free game, but this company does make two other games
I don't know how popular they are or how much revenue they bring in, but they're certainly not free - sporkwitch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I like how the console version is going to cost 40 US dollars on PS2 (so probably 100 dollars on x-box 360 :P). The clerk at EB Games got a good laught too when I asked about it (there were price tags on the "coming soon" boxes so i asked if that was going to be the real price), he was surprised to hear the PC version was free, since the console one was going to be 40 bucks. Apparently the army is trying to raise revenue, not just enlistment numbers.
- Kentdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1America's Army for PC was free... Was the console version free, too? I know the PC version was released by the Arny as a recruitment tool, but the console version was just created for popularity reasons, no?
Ah sorry sporkwitch, mine was a little late. - zediker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The $40 is probably to cover distribution and advertising costs, plus provide the developer with payment for the console software.
- reaver, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8They made Americas Army Rise of a Soldier which is the game made on the consoles. This doesn't affect the PC version at all. Reporting as inaccurate.
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well *****. They're just a cross-platform developer then. No wonder they're worth peanuts.
- Roscoe1976, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Yeah, now Sega will probably charge for future updates or sequels. Good things never last.
- sporkwitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31) You don't get "updates" on non-MMO console games.
2) Sega's not Microsoft, don't act like they are. - sporkwitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Bury this reply
- sporkwitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31) You don't get "updates" on non-MMO console games.
- spriggig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5As long as America's Army remains a recruitment tool for the US Army, paid for by US taxes, it will remain free to download.
- burnt1ce85, on 10/12/2007, -25/+4America's Army is a propaganda video game. i'm glad that i dont have that crap in my country.
- pype, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14I agree - I'll stick with Turkmenistan's Navy. AFAIK still the greatest rowboat sim of all time. Take THAT Yankee Establishment!
- falcon1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I'll tell you what - if all it takes to join the armed services is playing a semi realistic video game, then either you probably would have joined anyway, or you really dont have much else to do with your life, in which case the armed services is not a bad idea.
- falcon1, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3Sorry - double posted
- m.sandstorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah 15 mill doesn't sound like a lot, but it seems like it was a small company.
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Oh great... the army will now have access to the newest Sega games..... LOL
Its a shame to see America selling out to about any country that comes along and makes an offer. Look at the
Eastern Shipping Ports... we were ready to sell them to the Terrorists for the right price... shessh!- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This wasn't a government orginization. This was a private company contracted by the US Army.
- vstarre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I thought the official military proofreader had a policy that all "illion" words must start with "tr"
- ZekeSulastin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Uhm, as noted above, these people made the console version of the game, ~!*NOT*!~ the free PC version that was originally developed. Also, I've never seen the console game at recruiters. Heck, even on Secret Level's site, the only thing mentioned was the console game. In fact, as far as I can tell, they don't even MAKE PC games. Here, I took the liberty of copying their blurb about AA:RoaS from their site:
02 | 22 | 2005 Ubisoft announces "America's Army: Rise of a Soldier™" for Xbox and PS2
Our latest game title is out of the bag! Created in co-operation with the U.S. Army, "America's Army: Rise of a Soldier™" features a brand new single player game experience with light RPG elements. The online goodness of past America's Army titles is still intact, offering console players a chance to see what the most authentic military FPS experience is all about.
Hmm, Ubisoft didn't release the PC AA titles (free download). All it says is that the Army helped these people out - which is good since it protects their brand. However, the developers are still different between the two versions. Since neither the description nor the linked article make this eminently clear (hell, the article implies that this WAS the big recruiting tool), Reported for Inaccuracy.- sporkwitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a damn good thing Ubisoft didn't release the PC ones, they'd have never been downloaded thanks to StarForce, lol. And yes, I can picture those evil ***** StarForcing a piece of free software.
- AngryPenguin47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ha, at first I thought it said they bought it for $15...lol. I would believe it. The game is not that great.
- topper24hours, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2A single ***** game that I only played for 20 minutes even though it was free and they get 15 mill? Sounds like A TON of money to me!
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I used to work in that same building with Secret Level. They test games in the basement. I used to hear them trying out HALO and other stuff there.
Odd, a tv station with liberal themes is on the ground floor while the video game company that created a video game for military recruitment lives above...- Daryl209, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1More like wasting their time with Halo
- Darthpip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually, this isn't the makers of the FREE America's Army which is actually designed by the Army (therefore can't be bought). The console game, which I haven't played, was created by Secret Level. Just to clarify. BTW, the PC one (free one) is a good game, but not fast paced, liked Halo or CS.
- Roscoe1976, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I didn't say it was the PC game...
- pfister_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Please. You said "America's Army" -- not specifying which America's Army title, implying the most common one. And you said "makes" rather than "made," meaning that making it is a continuous process, which the PC version is and the console version definitely is not. How could this be interpreted as anything other than the PC version?
- Ralphy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Of course Sega is gonna buy other companies, there last few games sucked. Sonic Riders sucked, Shadow the Hedgehog was even worse. So they need to get some good games in. Phantasy Star Universe should help them out tho.
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1maybe they're trying to figure out the replayability of HALO
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1By the way, the tv station under Secret Level's building is owned by Al Gore
- Daniel591992, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"America's Army Maker Gets Bought by Sega"
The title makes it seen like he is a slave :P - Mongoose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does this really matter? AA is a horrible game, anyway.
- ek3s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why would they leave San Fran? SEGA is station in San Fran...
- Blitzenn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+115 million seems like a lot to me. To my knowledge they do not have a salable product. AA wasn't their's they just ported it. So what are you really buying? A building full of specialized programming staff you have to pay every month? Sounds like there more might actually be more liability with this company than there is value. I could see an argument made that 15 Mil is too much.
- Blitzenn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1~Read some more and see that this is not the company who made the original, but did the repackaging. My arguement still stands though. Where's the product to make money with?
- gregcotten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Secret Level worked on the console version of AA only. The US Government (Military) develops AA for PC.
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