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- burrdugg, on 09/29/2009, -0/+32If the HDD can't read that fast, maybe the SSD will?
- hughesj919, on 09/29/2009, -0/+15You don't need to write everything to the disk. There are other applications for this. They said it could be used for large screen display, but yes, there will probably be a different bottleneck elsewhere.
- HotSaucePanCake, on 09/29/2009, -0/+13I hope so, this is how motherboards should transport data!
- Cowicide, on 09/29/2009, -5/+18It was Apple's idea... ok, cue the haters...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple ... - jwdav, on 09/29/2009, -4/+16Right on cue ...
- AdmiralAcbar, on 09/28/2009, -1/+11Evenutally, yes.
- Kretien, on 09/29/2009, -0/+10is it that hard to run some copper power lines in the same cable with the fiber optic data ones?
- Cowicide, on 09/29/2009, -0/+9Big difference in complexity.
- nullcodes, on 09/29/2009, -6/+15Pretty soon, Apple will have been the one to have invented the very concept of fiber optics.
Kinda like how they invented the concept of a GUI (Xerox), having zoomable full HTML web browsers in phones (Nokia), having acelerometers in phones (myOrigo), and touchscreen phones (LG etc). - Renork, on 09/28/2009, -3/+11Needs power capabilities as well or all of a sudden all of your formerly usb interface type devices need two cables to run rather than just one.
- dagamer34, on 09/29/2009, -0/+7It's probably from data generated on the fly. Perhaps we'll see external video cards becoming a true reality now.
- BrBybee, on 09/28/2009, -7/+14What good is 100Gbps if the HDD cant write read that fast?
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That might be up someone's sleeve who is behind this push... - RagingIce, on 09/29/2009, -0/+5The thing about light peak is that it has the capability to carry multiple protocols simultaneously. This means you could use one port for your monitors, external HD, etc. all at once.
Monitors themselves will eat up the entire bandwidth, so it will definitely be useful. - PhillyOC, on 09/29/2009, -0/+5Great article. Well written and informed.
Thanks for the find. I love this kind of stuff. - anthropodeus, on 09/29/2009, -1/+6those are only for audio output. not only can they not transfer non-audio data, they cannot receive any data at all.
- fury420, on 09/29/2009, -0/+5eSATA is just as fast as SATA, and somehow I doubt even your internal drives come anywhere near saturating a SATA connection
- Kalahan6, on 09/29/2009, -0/+4Not at all. The electric interference will even have no effect on the data pushing trough the optic fiber.
- Stevethegreat, on 09/29/2009, -0/+4http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/flash_drives ...
260MB/s read
200MB/s write (actually 210MB according to benchmarks)
That makes for around 2Gbs read and 1.6Gbs write... Modern SSDs max out Gigabit lan quite comfortably. Even modern HDDs do so (Seagate 7200.11 and 7200.12 series). The problem lies to external connections, it always did. I welcome those new developments, they were long overdue... - JanTik, on 09/29/2009, -1/+4As your eyes become more and more out of whack, as you've gotten older, how many levels of thickness have you gone through?
- DiggMeUpPlz, on 09/29/2009, -0/+3Not sure....
http://www.corning.com/news_center/news_releases/2 ...
. - NoNameWorks, on 09/29/2009, -1/+4if you read this the article that you just replied to it says this is an alternative to USB 3.0.
Its also kinda funny that the main article here doesn't even mention Apple. It just says it is endorsed by Sony. - bjwest, on 09/29/2009, -0/+3Yeah.. On the last spool I saw. Seriously though, you can bend a fiber cable 90 or more degrees so long as it's not too tight. Besides, breakage isn't the problem with bending fiber, attenuation is. In a tight 90 degree bend, most of the light would bounce back to the source. Any kind of bend starts the light bouncing around (attenuation) with less of it reaching the intended receiver.
- Stevethegreat, on 09/29/2009, -0/+3Most SSDs never get too hot due to their low consumption. I've only used them promptly so I can't tell whether they can sustain those speeds over long stretches of time though, but I guess we're not too far away from high sustained speeds either (if we're not there already)...
- fragMasterFlash, on 09/29/2009, -0/+2USB has always been fun to work with, even when crappy mobos with counterfeit components have sullied many of my efforts. I'd go back to doing USB device firmware in a heartbeat, especially if it does go optical.
- driftwood07, on 09/29/2009, -1/+3they bend pretty well and you can pull on them, but the shear force will clip them right off. usually the protective cover helps against this though.
- HappyScrappy, on 09/29/2009, -0/+2There's no fiber optic port on the 360. It's on the analog video cable, if you have one.
- mrBitch, on 09/29/2009, -0/+2@ NoNameWorks, RE: " .. also kinda funny that the main article here doesn't even mention Apple. It just says it is endorsed by Sony."
FTA :
" .. Sony endorsement is important .. But another company at least as significant had a quieter Light Peak appearance at the Intel show: Apple."
Also FTA :
" .. on Saturday, Engadget reported that Apple isn't merely a Light Peak ally, but that it brought the Light Peak idea to Intel and has plans to bring it to Macs next year. Apple and Intel declined to comment on the matter." - inactive, on 09/29/2009, -1/+3Yes, I know it was obvious. The first guy was saying that HDDs are the bottleneck. I'm just saying that might not last forever.
- 1x253, on 09/29/2009, -0/+2Maybe it's time for some NEW glasses.
- plaguepony, on 09/29/2009, -1/+3All High speed connections are serial these days. Very high speed lines simply have multiple Serial buses, which is very distinct from parallel data.
- mrBitch, on 09/29/2009, -0/+1@ dagamer34, RE: " .. Perhaps we'll see external video cards becoming a true reality now."
I had not thought of that, damn that would be so cool. - nullcodes, on 09/29/2009, -3/+4Anyone seen a fiber optic cable you can bend 90 or more degrees without it breaking? Made from an ill polymer? I haven't.
- zer0mass, on 09/30/2009, -0/+1Cache memory could keep up with that. So if the SSD has enough cache then anything recently read (or if it is smart enough, data that is predicted to be read soon) could reach close to 100Gbps.
Write speeds will take a while to catch up unless you are using a RAM based SSD. - Brak710101, on 09/29/2009, -3/+4Until we have a breakthrough in storage media, these types of speeds will only be for carrier-class communication backbones and in the home, video output feeds like HDMI.
Even current SSDs can't stop the bottle neck that is storage media. They can't max out Gigabit lines, and you want to mention bringing 5-100gbps to the marketplace? Not worth it any time soon until we get some fast storage. - tmcdigg, on 10/03/2009, -0/+1SCSI commercial grade hard drives had fibre channel which were doing sub sata speeds back in the day.. so I suppose usb 3 can use fiber optics, but wouldn't be backwards compatible to 2 & 1 devices. I think it's more important to have tons of devices on ONE port and NEVER see a slowdown, blink or anything due to the sheer bandwidth. Even with today's computers the latest and greatest can't prevent some lag from creeping in.. so if the idea is to eliminate lag, then they've got their work cut out for them. I've also read a report that engineers don't really have 3.0 ready.. as in the current chipsets can't deliver the promised speeds.. so they're talking about transitional upgrades which might suck.. but oh well, keep this in mind that you may need to have a second pci-e x16 port free for a usb 3.0 upgrade. Right now, these are only options on the more expensive m/b's... the same way 4 ddr module slots are at a price premium too. So, usb 3 will probably make a board with one x16 pci-e slot an obsolete board in the future.. so pci 2.x might phase out and we just have x-16 slots.. the same way we're transitioning from ide/floppy to sata & flash headers.
FYI: expect this to be around q4 2010 at the earliest.. unless these engineers can get their asses in gear earlier and deliver the goods. - imkidred, on 09/29/2009, -0/+1Buried for not mentioning Apple in the title.
- NeoTechni, on 09/29/2009, -1/+2audio is still data.
- LucifersDad, on 10/02/2009, -0/+1Especially graphic cards with pci express replaced with an optical link instead.
Imagine plugging in a graphics card just like a dvd drive into the 5.25 inch bay. Connect the power and plug in the optical link. You can add as many graphic cards you need without completely taking over the motherboard. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 09/29/2009, -1/+1They get hot and eventually slow down.
- jman583, on 09/29/2009, -2/+2I am not arguing that, I am merely saying that fiber optics are already mainstream.
- Alias1431, on 09/29/2009, -3/+3Uverse, Fios, Toslink, USB 3.0, Pretty much any large business, The medical industry... I think fiber is pretty well accepted already.
- JanTik, on 09/29/2009, -3/+2As long as they hurry up.
- jman583, on 09/29/2009, -5/+3Mainstream? There's a fiber optics port on the back of almost every 360, PS3 and cable box.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK - os01, on 09/29/2009, -2/+0Can't wait for the Monster Cable!
- NeoTechni, on 09/29/2009, -4/+1Um, I thought we knew USB 3.0 was going to use fibre optics for ages now
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