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- doiveo, on 11/20/2008, -1/+90The clock is ticking for the magnetic drive.
- zyklon, on 11/21/2008, -1/+65SSD works in my camera. I don't know how I feel about being able to take 17,000 pictures at full resolution before I need to empty the card.
Oh wait, it's amazing. My bad. - bicyclefence, on 11/21/2008, -2/+35As Mr. Gates said, "Understand that this is the last physical format war there will ever be" on the topic of HDDVD vs BluRay.
- peterjmag, on 11/21/2008, -1/+32No.
- goeric, on 11/21/2008, -2/+26So does this mean it won't cost an arm and a leg?
- diggmeup, on 11/21/2008, -5/+28did anyone miss the 128SSD integrated into normal laptops?
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -2/+25Please get laid, before it's too late.
(I think it already is) - Barackalypse, on 11/21/2008, -4/+24Magnetic drives only need to worry when they stop being able to make them bigger or cheaper or if something else becomes starts becoming better at a significantly faster rate. I'm seeing 1 terabyte models selling for under $100 now, solid state can't even begin to approach that for quite some time. That said, at some point in the future I'll likely have a 64 gig NAND drive to slap my operating system and a couple games on to speed up load times.
- Modestexcuse, on 11/21/2008, -1/+21At least an arm for now, the leg will come into play with the 512GB early spring '09.
- hiltinuts2, on 11/21/2008, -1/+18FTA: "SSDs consume less power and have no moving parts, making them less vulnerable to failure compared to hard drives. "
Also, mass production = less price, hence this article. - emt1451, on 11/21/2008, -1/+15You shouldn't have to consider the ability to recover data when choosing a storage medium. You should have back ups.
- ElliotShoe, on 11/21/2008, -0/+12They are quite noticeably faster.
Some graphs and data: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=1 ... - Warpstone, on 11/21/2008, -0/+12Actually, SSDs use less power than regular HDDs. Here's a pretty handy link to Toms Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/flash-based-ha ...
You're correct on the write speed however ... they're still slower to write to than traditional drives. But look at the read speed, especially on boot up. SSD drives would be awesome to load your OS to and then just keep your media on a separate HDD until they improve the overall performance of SSD.
Another added bonus is no moving parts. Very little chance of having hardware failure on these guys compared to regular drives. - inactive, on 11/21/2008, -2/+14"I know not what formats will compete in the next format war, but in the one after that it will be sticks and stones."
- Famous Marketing Genius - mrbradg, on 11/21/2008, -8/+19I really think we are looking at a major change in the next 5 years. Goodbye CDs and DVDs and even BlueRay before long. It's all getting more and more compact. CDs are now a pain for me. I look forward to the future.
- Ommatidia, on 11/21/2008, -0/+11SSD's have already fallen to less than $2/GB; I'd expect the prices to halve every year.
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -0/+11There's one more major factor: reliability. If flash drives end up being less prone to catastrophic failure, especially as they age, the market will favor them, even at the expense of a slight price or speed hit.
- jasdf, on 11/21/2008, -0/+10I refuse to build a new computer until I can afford to put a SSD in it.
- cfuse, on 11/22/2008, -0/+10Size isn't everything (except for penises).
- Skod, on 11/21/2008, -0/+10Your macbook has a sudden motion sensor to prevent any damage if you're moving it powered up. If it's sleeping or off there's nothing moving so you have NOTHING to worry about.
- gritta, on 11/21/2008, -0/+9Please help me.
- Djmc, on 11/21/2008, -0/+9I have a real world question for someone who use them, are they that much faster?
- bj1989, on 11/21/2008, -0/+8My guess is that if you buy these things now you will feel screwed one year later when you -hopefully- can buy five of them for the same price.
SSD tech is under heavy development now, they went from 16 gig to 256 gig in a few months, new models and manufacturers are popping up everywhere meaning more competition and lower prices. - gritta, on 11/21/2008, -2/+10What I don't understand is why they make these drives a power of 2GB, but the actual amount of bytes has been artificially rounded to ~256,000,000,000. The actual power of 2 is 274,877,906,944 bytes, 256GiB, or ~275GB.
- nlinux, on 11/22/2008, -0/+8omg you guys obviously spend too much time on digg and not anytime with current SSD tech. That Tom's hardware article is from 2007! The current SSD drives are in the $300 - $400 for 64-128 GB. Intel Drives currently kick everyone's butt including all traditional drives on read and write times. Their 80 GB drives turn in 250 MB/s on Read and 75 MB/s on Write. I would like to see even a 15,000 rpm scsi that could touch that.
- Barackalypse, on 11/21/2008, -0/+7J16T3CH, RAM loses what it is storing when the power goes out, which is why for long term storage we've been using magnetic media or flash (the NAND that this article mentions).
- atbnet, on 11/21/2008, -0/+7Are you implying that SSDs don't tightly hold their data?
LOSE -_- - NeoNevermore, on 11/21/2008, -1/+7FTA:
"The new SSD doubles sequential data transfers compared to Samsung's earlier SSDs, the company said. It offers read rates of 220M bytes per second and write rates of 200M bytes per second." - Fartbandit, on 11/21/2008, -1/+7It'll be a slow clock but a very steady one indeed. :)
- litkaj, on 11/21/2008, -0/+6It's got to be MLC. There are only a few 128GB SLC drives right now and they're horrendously expensive. This is just a move to make a play for the "Why should I get an SSD that's only 64GB or 128GB when I can get a 250GB hard drive for free with my Dell?" crowd.
- Gyga, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6A RAID of 8 (2048 GB) of these (assuming $2/GB) = $4092 + RAID Controller
GDP Peru = $198.1 billion (2007 est.) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Peru)
Looks like it's already here. - joe8pack, on 11/22/2008, -1/+6I'm told they are BMF and also WTF with a good chance of being BFF before the YTD stats are calculated for fy2009.
- renanrcarvalho, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5I hate CDs/DVDs.
- Xizer, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5Who cares? I'll wait an extra 2 minutes for my operating system to start up if it means I can store ten times as much high definition porn.
My computer runs all the time anyway. - azzy, on 11/21/2008, -0/+5WHAT? OVER 9000??!
- cmf2, on 11/21/2008, -1/+6Barackalypse, you are not seeing 1TB laptop hard drives for $100 (or at any price). SSD is closing the memory gap pretty quick.
- mickstephenson, on 11/21/2008, -0/+5Backup, it's much cheaper than forking out the cash for recovery
- hiltinuts2, on 11/21/2008, -2/+6Okay, I'm wrong.
I'll stick by Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-hdd-batter ... - hypermog, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4Hm, are these SSDs some kind of ethereal, non-physical format?
- J16T3CH, on 11/21/2008, -1/+5I hope not, and I cant wait until we get to that point! I'm tired of coddling my macbook every time I ride over to my friends place. An SSD and I can ride over the potholes and off the sidewalks without a bead of sweat.
- ilikeeggs8877, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte
They're not rounding, they're using the actual meaning of mega and giga (10^6 and 10^9) respectively to their advantage - Cglass, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4More than likely he'd lose them, not sure about testing their tension.
- MxM111, on 11/21/2008, -1/+5Hmm, they perform much faster than hdd even in Raid 0 for most home applications.
How about Vista start under 30 sec? Can HD do that? - MattB123, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Just an arm.
- matt.rubin, on 11/21/2008, -3/+6no he makes sense. Hdd manufacturers take hard drives and round off the bytes from 1024 to 1000. Goes from Bytes to KB to MB to GB to TB. Hard drive manufacturers are giving us less for our money. I bought a 1TB drive and it only reports 931GB. Taking 69GB from me? Thats alot.
- CCB0x45, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Plus flash is less likely to fail as a hard drive which has moving parts.
- J16T3CH, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Really? I always have it off, but thats great to know my friend! Dugg
- r00fus, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3You can get them for all the macbook flavors right now, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Still massively expensive though.
I'm happy the top end is improving, so I can buy a reasonably sized 128GB one soone :-) - Shedding, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3before you need to empty the card? Into what? another 250GB hd?
- maeon3, on 11/21/2008, -9/+12The 128 GB samsung SSD are already here.
http://www.google.com/products?q=128gb+samsung+SSD ...
Problems with SSD:
Slower write speeds
Higher power consumption
Limited write (erase) cycles (big problem here)
higher vulnerability to abrupt power loss.
Standard problems: costs more and has lower capacity. -
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