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- stutimandal, on 01/02/2009, -3/+80Google by its name can get the Linux based OS into market faster.
- UselessTrivia, on 01/02/2009, -3/+47Why would you EVER EVER want to think about Linux like THAT?!?
- FruitBoy, on 01/02/2009, -1/+402010? Thats like.... An entire year away
- DanteDefiance, on 01/02/2009, -1/+31The real question is: Why the heck not?
- Ratatosk, on 01/02/2009, -1/+29Android is linux too... Linux is just the kernel. It's as much Linux as my Ubuntu is
- alsutton, on 01/02/2009, -9/+35Android is a layer on top of Linux, it adds things like the ability to use write-once run anywhere apps in a method where apps are isolated from each other.
Best way to think of it; Linux is like DOS, Android is like Windows 95 :). - fluxion, on 01/02/2009, -1/+23email adobe support about it.
- PRlME, on 01/02/2009, -8/+28I For One Welcome Our New Android Overlords
- fluxion, on 01/02/2009, -0/+20gtk and qt are not bad, qt is rather nice actually. most major programming languages have bindings for them: python, c/c++, etc. linux is a joy to develop on, as joe schmoe developer.
but you're right, as an "enterprise" programmer many issues arise. how to you package your apps? rpm's? deb's? tgz? source? do you support both qt and gtk environments? should you try to do any integration with gnome, knowing you'll be doubling the work for the qt port (or crippling it). fedora still ships with version blah of blah, but your app only works with version blah+. do you try to support it?
the problem is that linux doesnt really have a set development platform. which is great in terms of freedom. sucky in terms of software support/distribution. with android there's 1 sdk to rule them all. it makes maintaining a code base much easier, and ensures compatibility user to user. packaging, api, dependencies, it's all there and documented in one nice little package.
not that i see android "replacing" linux. but as far making things a bit more palatable for developers targeting cell phones and netbooks, i think it shows a lot of promise. - svivian, on 01/02/2009, -2/+21Yeah, we alreay have Linux, what do we need Ubuntu for?
- getis2213, on 01/02/2009, -1/+17I remember there being a story about a ton of traffic coming from Google HQ with the OS name stripped from the HTTP headers when serving web page requests.
Maybe they aren't developing a new OS, maybe Andriod has just been scaled to be a whole OS. Would be really cool. - tonmil, on 01/02/2009, -1/+17I don't get why it would take so long. Is it that the dogs won't want to eat the dog food? Can't be the technology. It's based on Linux
- Dasliberdan, on 01/02/2009, -2/+17It completely amazes me that two dudes with an idea for a better search engine has turned into such a dominating company. You know you are powerful when you start to scare the ***** out of Microsoft!
- RajAtWork, on 01/02/2009, -4/+19Because Linux is exceedingly difficult to program to for a general purpose "enterprise" programmer. Unified, Java-based stack will run circles around Gnome or KDE based apps.
- phatedesigns, on 01/02/2009, -1/+14could be sooner!!!
"Based on the progress we see in the Android open source project, we believe that getting an Android netbook to market is doable in as few as three months." - inactive, on 01/02/2009, -16/+29Hmm. But we already have an open source PC operating system, its called Linux. Why the heck do we need another one for?
- MrViklund, on 01/02/2009, -1/+13And one second.
- StupotAce, on 01/02/2009, -0/+11Linux is not exceedingly difficult to develop applications for. The difference is that Google is backing Android, so developers aren't afraid of programming using Android's GUI APIs.
- tapo, on 01/02/2009, -0/+11Android apps *are* isolated from each other, running in a virtual machine known as Dalvik. Android supporting copy/paste is simply because *the operating system* offers a framework that other applications may use.
- glitchbit, on 01/02/2009, -0/+11as long as they keep it open I don't see a problem
- meson2k, on 01/02/2009, -0/+10Because Android is tailored to run on Mobile processors such as snapdragon... ==> very long battery life!
- CircleFusion, on 01/02/2009, -0/+10I think people tend to get scared too easily.
I haven't seen any evidence of Google having shady business practices. Shady business practices are the main reason that I was never a Microsoft supporter.
Google's plans often include open source (as is the case with Android) and open standards. So it's a very different scenario than with Microsoft gaining market control. All of the proprietary stuff keeps Microsoft in that position even when they aren't doing a very good job with their products/services. With Google, however, they are setting themselves up to be on top of the market (I mean in things other than search...maybe), but maintaining their position based on their quality of service and not based on proprietary lock-in. I'm perfectly fine with that.
No matter which company is on top, we have to trust someone in order to use their products/services. I really see no reason not to trust Google. - inactive, on 01/02/2009, -0/+10Yeah and he laughed about the iphone too. MS needs to replace this buffoon if they ever want to return to glory.
- PRlME, on 01/02/2009, -2/+12oh my did he just say that on digg. -=|
- Clbull, on 01/02/2009, -0/+10Does this mean that Android could soon be released on desktop PCs as a separate OS in a couple of years?
- c010rb1indusa, on 01/02/2009, -2/+11Gamechanger
- Dougman82, on 01/02/2009, -0/+9When you "copy" the program sends the data to the OS, not another program. The OS then stores said data in what we call a "clipboard," where it awaits retrieval by another program through "paste."
- jeremymccurdy, on 01/02/2009, -0/+8It's probably only a matter of time before it happens.
- inactive, on 01/02/2009, -1/+9Because this one will truly be consumer friendly. Something most Linux distros aren't.
- OrangeCrush, on 01/02/2009, -1/+9That's the beauty of open source. If Google turns evil, the code is still free and forkable.
- cnldelta, on 01/02/2009, -0/+7Android on multiple devices = Reason enough to take a class to learn how to program in Java.
- MWeather, on 01/02/2009, -6/+12Apps aren't isolated like they are on the iPhone. That's why Android supports copy/paste.
- acegi, on 01/02/2009, -3/+9I'm still waiting for linux to run photoshop natively.
- Dunnix, on 01/02/2009, -0/+6The Intel ATOM processor is far more suitable for mobile processing then the Sempron; think battery life and the newer architecture makes it superior even then its 1.6ghz.
Also the a lot of the eee pcs come with SSD hard drives, again saving battery life. - daeken, on 01/02/2009, -0/+6Android IS a Linux distro. It's just their platform on top of Linux.
- roxgod666, on 01/02/2009, -0/+5Because maybe the G1 was being criticized for being buggy. hey're not going to rush an OS out, especially since this is their first one and probably don't want to screw it up.
- regeya, on 01/02/2009, -0/+5Yeah, do that. They'll just tell you there's no customer demand. :-(
- pyry, on 01/02/2009, -0/+5Internationalization? Where does one exactly get involved in translating the base operating system? Is that a community project too? I didn't see much about it on Android's google code site. Most of their documentation appears to be for application developers.
http://code.google.com/android/devel/resources-i18 ... - MWeather, on 01/02/2009, -1/+6Most Linux distros aren't targeted to the consumer. Those that are are generally easiwer to use./maintain than Windows for the computer illiterate. And if they are literate, they'll adapt, just like when they buy a new cell phone.
- shawnz, on 01/02/2009, -0/+5"In recent weeks, Microsoft’s Steve Ballmer repeatedly dismissed Android as competition to Windows Mobile."
windows CE runs on IBM workpads!
http://www.cyberiapc.com/classicsys/pics/workpad2. ... - MWeather, on 01/02/2009, -2/+6"but you're right, as an "enterprise" programmer many issues arise. how to you package your apps? rpm's? deb's? "
Both.
"do you support both qt and gtk environments?"
Yes, by using Wxwidgets. - inactive, on 01/03/2009, -0/+4Life in the tower overlooking the slaves never allows you to hear the whispers of an uprising.
- pw378, on 01/02/2009, -1/+5Thats what she said...
- l800LEMMINGS, on 01/02/2009, -2/+6last year google swore they weren't putting out an os after rumors of them developing a linux based os. It's not goobuntu but its close enough.
- BenKenobi88, on 01/02/2009, -0/+4I got the 1000HA (the 1000H minus bluetooth and wireless N, it has g) for $310, there's good online deals sometimes.
And like the 2 above me said, the Atom is better optimized for battery life (and I have no problem running multiple programs at once), and the biggest draw for these netbooks is the size and portability.
I could have paid $400 or $500 for a very good 17" laptop on black friday, but $300 for one with significantly lower specs but much better portability is precisely what I need for school. - MWeather, on 01/02/2009, -0/+4@rowjimmy There's no reason jython or jruby can't be ported to android, if they haven't already been ported.
- jdbeast00, on 01/02/2009, -1/+5HAHAHA. thats whats holding linux back. not enough client side java.
- d03boy, on 01/02/2009, -0/+4Googol I think
- inactive, on 01/03/2009, -0/+3Blasphemer!
- blackjack75, on 01/02/2009, -0/+3@jdbeast00:
The part of client-java that sucks is not included in Android. You're not running Swing apps and your're not waiting for the JVM to launch because the JVM is part of the OS and it's already there.
Java (J2ME) already runs pretty well on much weaker machines: nokia and sony phones. It's all a matter of how you use it.
Android provides a unified GUI and a well defined structure for system services, all that accessible from a widely known and easy to use language.
And that's from a guy who has an iPhone connected to his laptop and is currently debugging an iPhone app, so I guess I am not biased when I say Android is a very promising platform both for phones and other devices. -
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