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- heartcoldfusion, on 11/29/2007, -4/+72Wow. That guy has the hutzpuh to say what needs to be said. This guy died the way he lived, apparently, and the writer calls him on in instead of making him to be the victim. Wow.
'Rather than whine about white folks' insensitivity or reserve a special place of sorrow for rich athletes, we'd be better served mustering the kind of outrage and courage it took in the 1950s and 1960s to stop the white KKK from hanging black men from trees'
I'm sure the guy is going to be crucified as being a sellout to his race for that one... - ibanezdtx120, on 11/29/2007, -6/+69This is one of the smartest stories I've read in a long time. I love all of Jason Whitlock's columns, and the man always says what's right.
- nsummy, on 11/29/2007, -3/+48When I read the title I figured this was just going to be another article playing the race card. That was far from the truth. The author hit the nail on the head with some of the problems going on today.
- w00kiekrisp, on 11/29/2007, -15/+52Interesting story. He should have made it more clear what he meant by "Black KKK" though. It took me half the story to figure out what he was talking about and he mentioned it in the first line. Even then the analogy isn't that great.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 11/29/2007, -4/+39*whoosh*
- zyl0x, on 11/29/2007, -3/+38It's not racism; it's just not PC. People need to just shut the ***** up and listen every once in a while. Just because something makes you uncomfortable, doesn't mean it's not true. Hell, the fact that something makes you uncomfortable should be more than enough reason to listen. God damnit, stop hiding in your stupid utopian dream worlds, people!
- davidjunit, on 11/29/2007, -2/+25The point is that black people hardly need to worry about white people killing them anymore, instead they need to worry about other black people killing them.
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -3/+25Did you actually read the article?
- Fungo, on 11/29/2007, -2/+24Nice for someone to tell it like it is though. Only black sportswriters could get away with saying this though because God forbid some white guy writes that, then you have people screaming "Racist!"
Mike Wilbon said something down the same lines on SportsCenter a day or two ago. "It's tragic but, given the way Sean Taylor chose to live his life, it is not surprising." - knde, on 11/29/2007, -1/+22Only an idiot would attempt to criticize anything he’s written in that article. In its entirety, it speaks the truth of a particular section of black America.
Most educated (and older Africans) like my mother, frequently say “Leave Africa to sort out its problems. They’ve tried to help us, we didn’t step up to the plate, and we should deal with the consequences.” As an African myself, that’s the approach I’ve grown up with it, and after having seen some of the things I’ve seen, I’m in full agreement with the above sentiment.
Though not black American, that’s the same approach I hold. The black Americans who intend to prosper and live successful lives will. Those who don’t…..quite frankly screw them. It is illogical to take responsibility for a group of people, who are unwilling to take responsibility for themselves. - inactive, on 11/29/2007, -0/+20Wow, that article actually put a label on something I've been feeling for a long time, but couldn't really put it in words. It just seems to me, that the way things are going lately, that the black community seems to be doing to itself what the white community has done to it for centuries. I mean, if I were a white supremacist, I couldn't have asked for a better solution. Why go to all the effort to oppress black people when they seem to be doing a damn fine job of holding themselves back? Holy hell, it's brilliant.
Seriously, who needs Jim Crow when this culture seems to excel at keeping themselves poor, uneducated and in the ghettos? - blackmage439, on 11/29/2007, -0/+20One of the most blatantly truthful articles ever written. Some people just need to get a clue and wake the F%^$ up.
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -0/+18He is not quoting Milli Vanilli, dumb-ass. That phrase was around long before those two ass-clowns used it.
You know, the civilization has been around longer than 10 years, you may want to check out this thing called "history". - guinnessstout, on 11/29/2007, -1/+18First GOOD story I have ever heard from FOX. "You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration." Best part of that story.
- connor2k, on 11/29/2007, -0/+16That is an amazing piece of work. It applies to whites on the same level, I come from a very poor town where no one has high aspirations and they think it's cool to drop out of school, do drugs, and work at a local factory. Why people think it's great to "keep it real" and continue the cycle of living paycheck to paycheck and never trying to do something with their live is beyond me. I escaped as soon as I graduated High School and have never looked back.
- Pake, on 11/29/2007, -5/+21Boxes that hold explosives?
- DarkNemesis618, on 11/29/2007, -0/+13I agree with a lot that this guy has to say. It's nice how he's not afraid to say what many don't want to hear.
"Watch the documentary and ask yourself why nine poor kids in the '50s risked their lives to get a good education and a thousand poor black kids today ignore the opportunity that is served to them on a platter."
That quote really makes sense. I lived in Philly for 5 years and at one point dated a teacher in the school system. Even with some schools not living up to what we expect in an education system, the kids are given so much now and they don't even take the opportunity to see where it goes. It's a shame.
Kudos to Jason Whitlock - b04155, on 11/29/2007, -3/+16"and, if you're a black man living in America, you've been reminded once again that your life is in constant jeopardy"
I don't think that's a fair statement unless ALL black men run with the wrong crowd and participate in illegal activities. It's sad that he was killed but apparently he was involved with something in his past that caught up with him. - inactive, on 11/29/2007, -1/+13Well written, poignant and true.
- MacEnvy, on 11/29/2007, -2/+14Thus is the will of the Intertubes.
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -2/+13I'm liberal and I'm happy with his view of take responsibility for yourself.
- djetaine, on 11/29/2007, -2/+12You are a fool. The story is about how "frickin scumball's" are keeping the black community down. The story is saying the same damned thing you are saying. RTFA
- redcard, on 11/29/2007, -0/+10But see, you miss the point, Soverign. No one is saying that Sean Taylor deserved this. No one is saying that he brought it upon himself. No is saying that Sean Taylor was a bad guy. What is being said in the article is that simply being a good guy is not good enough anymore when you still associate with BAD guys. What is being said is that Sean Taylor put himself in this situation by being friends with unsavory characters long ago, and those characters felt betrayed by his "new life." That's what he's saying. That's why he's saying that the black man who engages on violence is like the KKK. Again, what is the motivation of the street-thug mentality that feels they need to return Sean Taylor to 'his place' as a 'brotha.' Is it really that far removed from the motivations of the KKK? The KKK seeks to put the white man over the black man, to seperate and purify the races, and to hold dominion. The black 'thug-4-life' mentality seeks to put the black man over or outside the reach of the white man, to seperate and purify the races, and to fight the system.
We're talking two sides of the same coin here. There's NO difference at all, and that's the sad thing. One moves in the direction of white, one moves in the direction of black, and both hurt the sides they claim to represent by their actions. - noahhoward, on 11/29/2007, -1/+11I think you're missing the point.
- gnick, on 11/29/2007, -2/+12This is the first thing I've read from Whitlock, but I'm thoroughly impressed. I wish this attitude could somehow manage to penetrate the self-destructive urban culture that's doing so much damage to itself and society in general.
- zengonzo, on 11/29/2007, -6/+15'Time for everyone to man up and start taking responsibility for your own actions. No more blaming Bush, the white man, the boogie man, or whoever. ... Bad news for democrates.'
That's right! Man up! No more blaming X! ... Blame Y instead. - fascfoo, on 11/29/2007, -1/+10wtf?
- SirGunslinger, on 11/29/2007, -0/+9Political Parties are not going to help you find success in life... that is up to the ***** you look at in the mirror. ;)
- HeyArnold, on 11/29/2007, -0/+8Well Said. If possible Id digg that story 10x. "the elephant in the room" needs to be pointed out, in the realization that a lot (if not most) issues "black America" deal with are self imposed.
/yes I'm black. - urinnerchild87, on 11/29/2007, -2/+10He'll be fine, now if a white person had written this article......
- EatingPie, on 11/29/2007, -0/+8Yeah I fully agree, it wasn't until almost the end that I "got it." But maybe that was good because it kept me reading until the very end.
I appreciate the article. I'm not black, nor did I grow up in an underpriveledged neighborhood, so I can't make any sort of call about this Black KKK. I do read about a lot of hip-hop associated shootings, and was in Vegas the week after Tupac was murdered, so what he says does resonate with me to some degree. If he's right, I hope it wakes some people up.
-Pie - Jimbob200, on 11/29/2007, -2/+10Probably because the goal of the article was to articulate why being "too young to die" is the wrong thing to say about this man's life.
- signal15, on 11/29/2007, -0/+7Bill Cosby said something similar a couple of years ago. He was talking about "thug culture" and how it was destroying the black community. My nephew is 16 years old, and black. He's been in foster homes his entire life and the odds are stacked against him at every turn. Thug culture most certainly has an influence on his life either directly through the music he listens to, or the people he chooses to hang around with.
I remember back in the late 80's and early 90's, many people were in an uproar about certain types of music claiming that the music was responsible for some of the terrible things people do. It wasn't just rap, but also metal and different types of rock. I passed it off as BS at the time. I was listening to NWA, Dre, Easy-E, and I hadn't gone out and whacked anyone, so I figured that there was no way the music caused any of the problems. Now I've changed my mind. Artists like 50 Cent glorify thug culture, kids mimic what they hear in the music and try to emulate the artists lifestyle. It IS a problem, I see it all over the place.
We can't ban music, and we cannot ban the words in these songs. But, we can make a concertive, subversive effort to undermine the legitimacy of this type of music and make it "uncool". I'm sure if there are any PsyOps people reading this from their military cubicle, they could certainly come up with a plan. - sovereign3, on 11/29/2007, -0/+7I agree with that sentiment personally. To society at large, all black men are essentially the same. Even among other black men.
- skinny01, on 11/29/2007, -2/+9"..going to be crucified as being a sellout to his race for that one.." I don't think so. Most black people I know feel the same way. But those of us with this viewpoint don't get the airtime. All you get to see is sharpton and jesse putting on their shows. I don't even know any black people that like them. The problem is that others have the wrong view of what real black people think because the only thing that gets shown or reported on is the idiocracy and the gangster hip-hop, maury povich baby mama shows, etc. Most of us are not like that, but those images are what's being shown the most to represent us.
What this guy wrote didn't sound at all surprising to me, it's what most of us think. What's more surprising is that it was allowed to come out in the media. - inactive, on 11/29/2007, -7/+13Live by the sword, die by the sword... or in this case gun.
- govsucks, on 11/29/2007, -1/+7Right on!!!! This is what happens when leftists and multiculturalists drum victim hood into the ears of black youth through state run education for 50 years and teach them to be a victimized group instead of strong individuals. Oh, lets teach them ebonics!!!! In other words, lets ALLOW them to fail at speaking proper English and and chalk it up to seeking "cultural diversity". There was a time in this nation when blacks had a lower divorce rate and a higher graduation rate than whites, alas, that was before the Utopian socialist realization of the great thinkers in our society. Unlike most liberals, I don't think blacks need affirmative action, why, because I TRULY respect them as human beings, and I KNOW that just like any human being they can make it on their own without some "sensitive" leftists giving them handouts. Handouts and dependency makes you weak, and the liberals in this nation have seen to it that black HUMANS are kept dependent and weak. Just as they would love to see all humans, dependent on the state for health care, income, retirement and anything else they can think of. Once you have a majority of the people dependent on you for health, food, shelter, you can proceed with whatever agenda you damn well please.
- spiffyman, on 11/29/2007, -0/+6You say Taylor wasn't a thug and yet he threatened someone with a loaded gun when he thought they had stolen his car.
If you think that's not thuggery it just shows how clueless and desensitized you've become.
Yes, he was working on changing his life, but the point of the article was that it's hard to escape thug life and that it can come back to bite you even after you think you've left it behind. - novemberstone, on 11/29/2007, -0/+6As an 'Elder Black Kid' who grew up with rap music, I find my self siding with your reasoning on the subject. I grew up in a very bad neighborhood, and when I was a child I was in Long Beach at the time of the Rodney King riots. I moved myself out, but I still have a lot of family living in trash areas with high crime and violence levels.
However these days I'm exposed to a lot of young black kids, who have the opportunity to live good lives and are not forced to rummage in the ghetto to try and 'survive', like their rap idols say they had to. Yet, they purposely throw it away by acting out the lifestyle they hear in this music. You said you listen to rap, so we both know a lot of it out there isn't "good" rap, and even if it was kids would purposely find the 'bad' stuff and listen to it to be 'cool'. And thats exactly what I find more and more. Kinds listening to this stuff for no other reason than to try and be 'thugs'/'gangstas' because they think that is the badass lifestyle to live. My little nephews and cousins are getting in trouble, getting kicked out of school, and treating girls like ***** - and I can guarantee they didn't pick that up from myself or their parents/uncles. It's the stuff they look up to, try to imitate for the sake of looking cool.
I guess you could say the same about violent video games, but then again - people generally know those are fake. But rapping? Thats suppose to be 'real'. Real from the mouth of those who lived it, even if it sounds outlandish. Kids eat it up, and try to act it out. Thats exactly what I see. - djetaine, on 11/29/2007, -0/+6It has everything to do with this. The fact that he subscribed to the "urban" lifestlye ("urban" being predominantly african american) is more than likely what ended up getting him shot. The fact that most african american youth embrace this lifestyle and all the guns, violence and abuse it entails has EVERYTHING to do with this
- Walgreenz, on 11/29/2007, -0/+6http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5194/dumbassau1 ...
- noahhoward, on 11/29/2007, -1/+7Damn good points.
- Pilot85, on 11/29/2007, -1/+7It was an article condemning black youth culture that promotes violence, ignorance, and hatred. What is your point?
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -0/+6It should piss me off that someone's coming out and saying what needs to be said, that this kind of lifestyle shouldn't be celebrated, it should be condemned? You're right, we should just ignore the problem, and allow young black men to keep ***** up their lives, and the lives of everyone around them.
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -1/+6If you are a black man, your life is in jeopardy. The number of black men murdering black men is alarming. This article was completely wasted on you.
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -1/+6Reminds me a lot of the Bill Cosby speech - http://pufone.org/blog/bill-cosbys-rant/
- Digg discussion here: http://www.digg.com/offbeat_news/Bill_Cosby_s_Rant ... - boberto, on 11/29/2007, -0/+5yeah, it sucks with all those millions they can't buy a gate, a security system, or guards of some sort.
I don't think this is a growing problem... you don't see it happening to players who stay out of trouble with guns and drugs. - stronglikedan, on 11/29/2007, -4/+9...or lynched by the black KKK.
- dansmeek, on 11/29/2007, -5/+10wow, not that i care, but... why would i be dugg down for that comment....
- dezman2003, on 11/29/2007, -1/+6Hip-hop may not be the cause but it sure as hell encourages it and advertises it as being cool.
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