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youtube.com — Some big hits in NHL and NFL. Make your choice: which one is the most brutal game?

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  • buddamus, on 04/24/2008, -35/+19None compared to rugby
    • cybrspin, on 04/24/2008, -4/+24rugby is tuff, very very tough, but the physic don't match compared to hockey. Hockey players experience impacts similar to slow car accidents. Ever consider the physics behind two 200+ lb men travelling over 30kph colliding. There quite scary.
      • dema, on 04/24/2008, -5/+2Actually, there was a "physics of sports hardest hits" show on the discovery channel (I think it was?) a few months ago. They determined that a blind-side hit on the QB is more devastating than a blind-side check in hockey (again, I think). Ultimately though neither matters because Quinton Jackson (from the UFC), was found to have the "hardest hit in sports".
        • redlantern64, on 04/24/2008, -1/+8W/ all respect to the Discovery Channel, I find it hard to believe that a QB being blindsided w/ nothing but air on the opposite end of the oncoming force is more devastating that being blindsided by a checker coming on at full speed into a wall.
          • dema, on 04/24/2008, -0/+7Ah! You reminded me of the hitch! Being blind-sided INTO the wall is not as bad because the wall itself absorbs more of the blow than the person. They did both an open ice and wall check, and I think the open ice hit was actually worse than the blind-sided QB. Now I really want to see that show again, lol.
          • mlavergn, on 04/24/2008, -0/+5Having played full contact hockey in college, let me tell you that I'll take an open ice hit over a hit 3 feet from the boards any day of the week. I'd rather have room to dissipate a hit by sliding back on the ice than share it with a wall of steel and plexiglass. The plexiglass gives a tiny bit, but the walls are rock solid.
      • avatarpalin, on 04/24/2008, -1/+3You just described a prop at full run.. He will do that about 45+ a game
      • michnuc, on 04/24/2008, -5/+3Alright, let's analyze this.

        NFL is derived directly from rugby (was invented because rugby was too rough). - point rugby
        NFL and rugby have similar speeds and weight, - no point
        NFL has all out hits (often with head), rugby has all out hits with shoulder, with attempt to wrap/lift opponent (with opponent often getting dropped). - no point
        NFL plays until the ball is down, ruggers keep at it until they get their hands on the ball - point rugby
        Football has pads, helmets, cups, rugby has mouthguard (gumshield), and maybe a cup - point rugby
        NFL has very few fights, rugby always has fights (you have to keep your eyes out for cheap shots in the scrum and ruck) - point rugby
        NFL - 0 rugby - 4
        therefore rugby>NFL

        NHL has higher speed, similar weight to rugby - point NHL
        NHL has cross-checks into sideboard, rugby has head-on hits - no point
        NHL continues after hit, rugby continues after hit - no point
        NHL has pads galore, helmet, skates, rugby has mouthguard, sometimes cup - point rugby
        NHL has fights, rugby has fights - no point

        NHL - 1 rugby - 1
        NHL and rugby tie (though I think rugby might edge out as there are no gloves to drop in order to fight)
        • dema, on 04/24/2008, -1/+4> NFL has all out hits (often with head)

          I stopped reading right there. Leading with the head in football is stupid and extremely dangerous, you have no idea what you are talking about.
        • mlavergn, on 04/24/2008, -1/+5I agree with your NHL - Rugby comparison, however, the NHL needs pads or people would die regularly during playing of the game. Comparisons you missed:

          Getting hit with am inflated rugby ball rarely causes injury, getting hit with a half pound frozen hockey puck moving at 100mph can kill you - point NHL
          Rugby is played on an open field where you can run out of bounds, NHL is played in a rink with boards made of plexiglass and steel, nowhere to run - point NHL
          Rubgy is played on a soft grassy field, NHL is played on rock hard ice - point NHL
          Rugby cleats can break bones and open wounds, NHL skates can slice through arteries and kill you - point NHL
          Rubgy players have their hands, NHL players have a 5 foot long bat that can easily break bones - point NHL

          Enough of that, point being, given having to choose between getting hit blind side by a pro NHLer while wearing no pads into the boards or a pro Rugger open field hit, I'll take the Rugger hit any day of the week. However, if you add the pads into the equation, it's probably probably an even chance of injury. Long story short, Hockey and Rugby are the toughest pro sports on the planet, bar none. So, if anybody wants to be a real man, play Rugby in the summer and hockey in the winter ... your insurance will hate you for it!
        • michnuc, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2@ dema: You're right, it is dangerous, but look at the video for this article, they hit people with their head, there's little hands, and no shoulder in it at all. I'm just going from what I've seen. It may not be the way that you or others were taught/act in a football game, but when I watch, lots of tackles, and most of the hard ones are full force impacts with the helmet.
    • thentro, on 04/24/2008, -4/+1http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/04/ ...
    • Boodie, on 04/24/2008, -3/+7Funny I didn't see rugby as a choice. Hockey is the most brutal game!
    • over900000, on 04/24/2008, -2/+4Hurray for rugby!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc0Ut5y-GRc
    • jnava121, on 04/24/2008, -5/+13If rugby was so hard core then they would wear padding. Broken necks, spinal cords, death and paralysis are good examples of why football players wear pads. Having a 350 lb lineman fall on you is another reason! Don't see too many 240 lb. linebackers with 3% bodyfat who run 4.4 sec 40 yard dashes in rugby either. It's just a bunch of drunk brits and aussies who think they are bad ass lol..
      • ucuntu, on 04/24/2008, -1/+3http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/ ...

        You mean serious injury like that?

        Although the nearest form of Rugby to NFL is League, I'd like to see an NFL team play Leeds Rhinos or a team from the NRL using League code. I think it would be quite close.

        I wear light padding under my shirt and a scrum cap, but they are mainly because I play Hooker and don't want cauliflower ears and I'm carrying a shoulder injury.

        If the US rugby union would turn professional, a lot of College Footballers that fail to be drafted would make a US Rugby team a force to be reckoned with.

        The great thing with rugby is there are 2 broad specialisations, Forward or Back (thats a generalisation), and you stay on the field for the entire 80 minutes.

        And theres nothing wrong with being drunk... ;)
      • michnuc, on 04/24/2008, -1/+3You see so many injuries in football because the players don't know how to hit someone else. In football, you see guys going in, head down, arms close to the body. They're frigging hitting people with their head/helmet, no wonder there's so many injuries. In rugby, you supposed to attempt to wrap the opponent, and bring him down, so you hit with the shoulder, and put the guy down on the ground, scoop up the ball, and run. You still get spectacular run-ins in rugby, but you're more likely to not get as seriously injured. Most likely it's knee/shoulder problems.

        And no, you "Don't see too many 240 lb. linebackers with 3% bodyfat who run 4.4 sec 40 yard dashes in rugby either" because in rugby, that's called slow. As good a shape as all the NFL guys are in, professional rugby teams are just as good or better, because they avoid getting injured by training and skill, not by plastic and foam. If you don't agree, that's fine, but do go out and play a game on the pitch and you'll forget football fast.

        And I agree with ucuntu, a little whiskey never hurt anyone.
    • Shakermaker, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4That wasn't the question
    • Hellman109, on 04/24/2008, -0/+9Im an Aussie and Ive played competative Rugby (Union) and Gridiron (American Football). Gridiron is MUCH tougher. While I might have seen maybe two dozen good tackles in a Rugby match, every single play in Gridion I was hitting someone. I played Prop in Rugby and O/D line in Gridiron, so not sissy positions.

      PS: Ive seen a number of rugby players get scared at the prospect of kickoffs... I run full pelt (@120kg) down a field and try to knock someone on his ass basically... Ive never seen anything like it in Rugby
    • Yatata, on 04/24/2008, -2/+3maybe aussie rules
  • bstory, on 04/24/2008, -4/+116NHL - think about it these guys take to the ice with weaponry; 1 - 6 foot stick, they shoot a frozen chunk of hard rubber at speed close to and occasionally exceeding 100 mph, each player has 2 double sided razor blades strapped to their feet and they smash into each other at speed in an effort to smash the other guy into the boards. NFL and Rugby - sure they hammer each other into the soft ground and limbs do get broken upon occasion but come on... there really is no comparison when you put it into proper perspective.
    • RustyJ, on 04/24/2008, -25/+1I have an extremely hard time believing they ever get to 100 mph. All good points otherwise.
      • ventralnet, on 04/24/2008, -1/+15he was talking about the hockey puck idiot
        • RustyJ, on 04/24/2008, -0/+16Times like these i wish there was a delete comment button on digg. I fail.
    • ilves7, on 04/24/2008, -0/+6Actually, at the all-star games they have the hardest shot competition, the winner usually clocks in around 102-104 mph on the slapshots.
      • Pake, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Actually that's sort of rare. Al MacInnis was the most consistent in the contest and he only occasionally topped 100mph, grant it that was using an old style wood stick and not one of the new ones where he probably would have gained a few mph. Even still, it's freaking fast as crap and I couldn't even tell you how many people he's put on the injury list. Nothing like ripping through a goalies glove causing fingers to break and rupturing another guys testicle...

        Seems Jhaixuz beat me to MacInnis though. Oh well, all hail the slapshot king!
      • alittleroy101, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2This guy could crush the puck.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Iafrate
    • xturmn8r, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Probably not regularly. but if you watch the skills competition, yeah, they get in the high nineties, and break 100 occasionally. Note, this is not a game situation, but it is possible.
      • josephbloseph, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Right, Zdeno Chara hammering a slap shot or one-timer from the point into the traffic in front of the goal isn't a game situation. Even dialed back, I would not be eager for a small, hard piece of rubber launched in my general direction.
    • Jhiaxuz, on 04/24/2008, -0/+8Al MacInnis did it all with wood too!

      "There's hard, and then there's MacInnis hard."
      • SuperMoses, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Don't forget about Al Iafrate who set the record (before Kilger broke it.. with a new stick of course)
        • Jeffler, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1So few people care about Kilger's record breaking that the stick he broke it with has been on sale at the Air Canada Centre pro shop for $99.99 since October...nobody's biting.
        • Xproject01, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Guess you need the first name of Al to have a hard slapshot
        • tellahoohooo, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1They both got nothing on this guy...one Bobby Hull
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Hull
          ***** ya old time hockey...
    • tellahoohooo, on 04/24/2008, -1/+9A) a hockey stick is not 6 feet long...I'm 6'3" = 6'5.5" on skates and my stick is maybe 5 feet, though I like it shorter for better puck control.
      B) the puck rarely reaches speeds of 100...I would say that it averages in a pro game at least of about 45...which is still gonna do some damage if you weren't wearing pads...shots from the point, dumps & clears are usually when the pucks traveling the fastest...in game situations probably maxing out at around 90mph...depending on the amount of time someone has to get the shot off. But that's a max...yes skill competition when they are 15 feet from the net and can skate full speed at the puck & have an uninterrupted slap shot it will break 100...but even then most of them only reach 98.
      C) Hitting isn't just smashing into each other, its a matter of timing, lining a guy up & yes if the boards are there, using them to assist you in the check to pin the person in place... Saying your just smashing into one another makes hockey sound like some kind of uncontrollable melee. Its a very precise game, which most people can't see just by watching it.
      D) The main point is that hockey doesn't stop...you can literally play for 20 straight minutes, w/out a stoppage, rarely if ever does this happen, but It could. Also there are 2-3 games a week, in a 85 game season, which is followed by playoffs where you play every other day, unless your series ends early and then you get a few days rest. But even when your not playing, your at practice. NFL = stop start, stop start, stop start, time out, 2 minute warning, etc...1 game per week w/ a by week.
      E) Hockey will kick your ass, there is a reason guys are only out there from 45seconds - 1:15 (and if they are out there this long they are usually defending in there end in the hopes of clearing the puck w/out icing it so they can get off the ice & catch their breath)
      F) The speed of the game, NFL just doesn't compare, its the fast game in the world
      Conclusion: NHL by far
      • RoadDoggFL, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2A) Defensemen use longer sticks. Your personal preference doesn't affect the NHL.
        B) You honestly think the fastest shot in NHL history was on one of the unimaginably insignificant occasions of a skills competition? With adrenaline pumping, I have no doubt in my mind that there's been a 100+mph shot taken in an actual game. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

        I agree with the rest, easily the NHL.
        • tellahoohooo, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1A) Ok, yes, but honestly have you ever met a person that was using a stick that was 6' long!?!
          B) I think you missed my point...I mean back in the day they said that Bobby Hull's shot could have reached speeds of 120mph...but it was before radar guns so there's no real way of knowing...Though he did have a wicked shot and was arguably the first to curve his blade...But back to my point...I was saying that on average its not moving at 100...though you do make a good point when your adrenaline is pumping, some of these guys, w/ the new sticks can probably and on occasion do shoot the puck 100+mph...but rarely in a game will it actually happen...
          • RoadDoggFL, on 04/30/2008, -0/+1A) Nope, but I grew up in Florida and have only lived in Hawaii and SoCal since. I bet Chara's stick is close (maybe longer).
            B) Definitely. I agree that the 100 mph mark is rarely surpassed, but I was recently in a discussion about this and after thinking about it it's become a pet peeve when people discredit the claimed speeds of shots in the NHL. That being said, yeah, a 45 mph shot will ***** your ***** up.
    • aargh01, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Any other major team sport in the world, if you fight you get kicked out of the game, maybe suspended and fined too. Hockey, you get five minutes in the box, but so does the guy you beat up. And everybody cheers you. All other sports bow down to the badassness of hockey!
    • Axxion, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1I've played both sports, ill have to say that football is an all around more contact sport, but believe it on not tackles in football hurt less just because your normally warm and you are not on skates. Hockey on the other hand is a less all around contact sport, but when it comes to a hit I'd have to say hockey just cause your always cold and their is nothing worse than being slammed into the board when you moving about 5mph and a guy hits you at 30 to 40 mph. IT hurts like a mofo.
    • OneLess, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ww--j17sE (not a rickroll)
      Throw around all the numbers you want- that's never happened in the NFL.
  • slamcut, on 04/24/2008, -2/+44Synchronized swimming by a mile.
    • kleptomaniac, on 04/24/2008, -1/+2Have you seen how many people get carried off in a stretcher during a soccer match? Soccer players are total badasses.
  • jav1231, on 04/24/2008, -33/+3Given that you can actually stop and fight in hockey I'd go NHL. Though frankly, I don't consider that a sport.
    • purplehaze420, on 04/24/2008, -0/+13What do you define as a sport? NHL is a real man's sport.
    • tellahoohooo, on 04/24/2008, -0/+6given that your comment doesn't make sense, I don't consider it a comment
    • MasterQ, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3hockey IS a sport... and it definitely is the most brutal because fighting is part of the game. What other game can you bust a guy's face open so much that he needs stitches, not get fined, and even be allowed to come back in the game after a very short 5 minute penalty?
  • Nev9, on 04/24/2008, -7/+75NFL have 16 games regular season, NHL 82 games. Just that shows hockey is a tougher sport
    • MisterEX, on 04/24/2008, -4/+10Or it shows the complete opposite. If the NFL had games every other day like hockey does, that would be ridiculous. An average hockey player is on the ice for about 40 seconds at a time. The amount of SOLID hits in hockey are rather minimal and fights are just as rare anymore.
      • jnava121, on 04/24/2008, -3/+7Baseball has 163 regular season games? that means baseball is tougher...
        • MRintheKeys, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6It's hard work to sit on your ass and chew sun flower seeds before standing out in the grass for about 20 minutes.
        • n3demonic, on 04/24/2008, -1/+1Jnava replied to the wrong person. He's actually disputing Nev9 sarcastically. He didn't do a good job of it...
      • copa31, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Agreed. Have any of you played either hockey or football, full contact? Plus the life expectancy of the average NFL player is far less then your normal person!
      • MasterQ, on 04/24/2008, -1/+2so by your logic hockey still wins because football players only actually play for about 12 seconds at a time because of the break in between plays.

        also, 1... count em.... ONE person gets tackled to end a play in the NFL, and it usually isn't anything that even comes close to causing an injury. in the NHL, there are multiple hits on every shift and theres no soft grass or turf to fall into, which means injuries are much more likely. and lets see a football player take a 50-100 mph slapshot or a high stick to the face.

        and yeah... if the NFL had games a few times a week it WOULD be ridiculous because then it would almost be as brutal as hockey. and sorry, but baseball is NOT a contact sport, so jnava121 ur talking apples and oranges.
        • yacks, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2apparently, you dont follow the people in the trenches much in football.. watch the offensive and defensive line sometime.. 1 person may get "tackled" on most play.. but there are more hits than just that one tackle.. not too mention the Earl Campbell highlights where he plows through multiple defenders in 1 play.. and Earl Campbell can barely walk nowadays because of the abuse his body took during his nfl years..
    • AlexanderCurtis, on 04/24/2008, -3/+5Wouldn't it show that the NHL is a lot easier since they can play more games in a year? If all NFL teams played that many games in a season it'd be deadly health wise. Make hockey rinks 100 yards long and take off the friction-less skates and see how many games you get out of it. Hockey may be more 'brutal' but the amount of games played has nothing to do with it..
      • cheeze_ballz, on 04/24/2008, -1/+3you've obviously never played hockey...

        in hockey, you spend 30-60 seconds going all out in a dead sprint (for the most part), then you sit for 30 seconds to 2 minutes (depending on how many lines you have on your team) and go back out and do it all over again.

        in football, you spend 20-30 seconds setting up a play (huddle, etc) before you finally snap the ball, and depending on what position you play, you may not move any more than a few yards (thinking linesman here) -- yes, some players do go in a dead sprint, but they're usually replaced each play (wide receivers, etc)

        oh, and hockey rinks are 2/3 of your 100 yards -- the majority of professional rinks are ~200 feet long.
        • Gregus1032, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1linemen dont move that much... but don't forget they got someone in their face pushing them around trying to get the guy behind them. That takes a lot more energy than running 15-20 yards in a full sprint. and WR's aren't replaced every play. normally the #1 and #2 receiver are out there every play.

          if you think hockey plays are going all out in a dead sprint for the entire time that they're on the ice, you're not watching the games i am. don't get me wrong. they're ready to go at a full sprint, but i've rarely see anyone sprint on ice for 30-60 seconds.

          do you even watch sports, or just listen to what your friends say?
        • yacks, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1not too mention playing football.. you are more likely to be blindsided.. especially if you are a QB..
    • mike17032, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6You have that backwards ace.

      Football is played once a week because you need that time to recover from it. If the NFL played that many games in a year, you would have about 10 players in the whole game by the time the season was over. There is a reason they talk about teams being "healthy" for the playoffs, it usually makes a huge difference.
      • Pake, on 04/24/2008, -1/+2Bah, football players just whine too much. Hockey players play through the pain. Broken fingers? ***** it, wrap it in tape and help me put my glove on.
        • Gregus1032, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Look up Chris Simms. Skinny white pretty boy... he played 3/4's of a game when his appendix exploded (from being hit). Both sides have tough players. Both sides have wussies.
    • thomsamuels, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Well then, I guess using your logic baseball is the most brutal sport of all, given that they play the most games.
  • eLuminx, on 04/24/2008, -13/+36NHL, to me the NFL just looks like a pussied down rugby.
    • shmidlab, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1You obviously never played football. I had a guy from south africa try and teach me how to play rugby when I was in high school. I broke his wrist with a football tackle while he was showing me how to play.

      Show me a rugby player like Larry Allen, current lineman in the NFL. He can bench press 750lbs and runs a 4.8 40 yard dash. Most rugby players would be dead after their first "tackle".
      • Feanor, on 04/24/2008, -1/+1Most Rugby players would juke around Allen and keep on running.
        • shmidlab, on 04/25/2008, -0/+0really? think most rugby players are faster than an average NFL DB? I watched Allen run down a DB from behind. Just cause he can bench press a rugby player 40 times doesn't mean they can nessisarily outrun him.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI_A4BYyT-0
  • slstsang, on 04/24/2008, -20/+17Rugby is the most brutal game, no armor, no pads, just a cup.
    • apollo53, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2what cup?
      • Zaphrod, on 04/24/2008, -0/+5It ain't no dixie cup and it ain't no coffee mug and you certainly don't wanna be drinkin' nothin' out of it.
    • SuperMoses, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6BME pain olympics is more brutal, but this video was about NHL vs NFL.
    • sagat, on 04/24/2008, -2/+1I never wore a cup and my balls are still intact, well, at least I think they are.
      Why's my pee blue?
    • ucuntu, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2You wear a cup?! Just a gumshield for most, even though us Brits dont really have much to protect in our mouths (If we're going for stereotypes...)
      • schtick01101, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1You wear a cup on your mouth? You're doing it wrong.
  • justinx0r, on 04/24/2008, -3/+35NHL is a league, not a game. But hockey of course. Football is my second favorite sport and all but it doesn't compare to hockey.
  • perhapsimcrazy, on 04/24/2008, -12/+6Australian Rules Football
  • Steven8890, on 04/24/2008, -17/+5NFL!
  • IHaveIssues, on 04/24/2008, -1/+28Holy ***** music Batman!
    • cleggg, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2Couldn't go through the whole video... Had to skip through parts.

      Rock me like a hurricane was the last ***** straw!
  • dema, on 04/24/2008, -9/+4No Bob Sanders in NFL highlights + atrocious ***** music = bury
  • racco, on 04/24/2008, -31/+3NFL and NHL brutal games!? please

    FMW, CZW, XPW, ECW (pre WWE) now those are some brutal three lettered games right there!
    • Jhiaxuz, on 04/24/2008, -2/+9I think they were comparing the two to each other. You know, the Vs. part sort of makes that clear...
      • racco, on 04/24/2008, -5/+1i know that, just pointing out that neither is a brutal game. you know, with violence not being part of the game itself but rather a consequence of the players of the games not being able to control themselves
        • SuperMoses, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4Violence is very much a part of hockey. Teams higher enforcers for a reason, it doesn't have to do with "players not being able to control themselves". You think the Wild highered Boogaard because he's a good skater?
          • jav1231, on 04/24/2008, -4/+2Some of what goes on in hockey should be punished. Smacking someone with a stick is illegal.
          • SuperMoses, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Yes, and those who smack someone with a stick get punished. Every sport has participants that cross the line.
    • SuperMoses, on 04/24/2008, -4/+2Ya, they're comparing the too.. they're not saying one is the most brutal of all sports. If that were the case then one 3 letter acronym that you're forgetting is BME as in BME pain olympics. And I hope the things you mentioned isn't fake wrestling.
      • racco, on 04/24/2008, -4/+1you cant fake being thrown 30 ft through a pile of 20 or so tables that are on fire onto a floor thats littered with thumb tacks and broken light tubes.

    • ucuntu, on 04/24/2008, -0/+6Wrestling is the most brutal SOAP OPERA, not sport.
  • HotSaucePanCake, on 04/24/2008, -4/+11Hockey, they are moving at least twice as fast when they hit each other. Ice skating is fun!!!
    • morpheus69, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1Yeah, in the video, even in slow motion, the players are a blur!
  • Turbojugend27, on 04/24/2008, -13/+1how about renaming this to NHL vs NFL, which one is bearable to watch....
  • thentro, on 04/24/2008, -2/+22Hockey, because you can't just stop.
    • brian4572, on 04/24/2008, -0/+8I know man it's like pringles.
      • lansuggs, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4Also, Lays. Messier says "Can't have just one"
  • Jhiaxuz, on 04/24/2008, -2/+16No fights in the video for hockey = lame.
    • josephbloseph, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2Just youtube "Zdeno Chara".
      Get to my personal favorite by typing in "Chara" and "Ragdoll"

      I'd link, but i'm behind an restriction filter that doesn't like youtube
  • wrathchilde, on 04/24/2008, -1/+7Dugg for hit from Steve Largent at 2:05, 5'11" 187 lb. After (typical) Dave Craig interception.
  • Braxo, on 04/24/2008, -0/+37I always tear up a little whenever I see an NHL article make it to the front page.

    Go Sabres!
    • purplehaze420, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4Me too... I always assume it was a fellow digg-loving canuck
    • toonworld, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6I love Hockey! NHL for sure. I think it would have been a better match-up if they compared Hockey with Rugby.
    • FXPooky, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6Say what? Sabres? You didn't even make it to the series, heh.

      Go Habs!
      • josephbloseph, on 04/24/2008, -2/+4Yeah, the Habs are a shoo-in for Olympic gold this summer in the Diving competition
      • El-Taco, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2go habs? no, go sharks!!!! i went to the habs game that we won 6-4 back in march, was the craziest game i ever went to. brian campbell spin o rama......nuff said..hockey rules....
    • kenkyomausu, on 04/24/2008, -1/+3I dugg you up, but then i saw the sabers thing....

      GO AV'S!
      • DennisPwnsj00, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Prepare to be destroyed by the Red Wings.
        If only you guys still had Claude Lemieux. Then Darren McCarty could kick his ass all over again.
        • kenkyomausu, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I wanted to digg you down. but its sadly true...
    • Lososaurus, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Go Kings, making a cup run every 25 years!
    • El-Taco, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2hockey should be digg more, and just so i get my team in the thread too, GO SHARKS!
  • ventralnet, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3What was the nfl scene where the guy fell on his head and bounced? did that fracture his spine? looks like he was a buffalo bill
    • jnava121, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2yes, kevin everett was badly injured last year on a special teams play i believe. The procedure of using cold saline to induce a hypothermic state was pretty new idea i believe in the medical field.


      Cappuccino repaired a break between the third and fourth vertebrae and also alleviated the pressure on the spinal cord. In reconstructing his spine, doctors made a bone graft and inserted a plate, held in by four screws, and also inserted two small rods, held in place by another four screws.

      Green said the key was the quick action taken by Cappuccino to run an ice-cold saline solution through Everett's system that put the player in a hypothermic state. Doctors at the Miami Project have demonstrated in their laboratories that such action significantly decreases the damage to the spinal cord due to swelling and movement.

      Pretty Ironic too since I think the bills ownership donated to the Miami Project.
  • SuperMoses, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4Man, those hockey hits must have been from Rock' em Sock' em 2. Where's the modern hits? Good vid other than that. They forgot to show hockey fights though
  • sublimer, on 04/24/2008, -1/+38NHL for 3 big reasons...

    1. Its a much longer season
    2. You move 2-3 times faster than you do in football (F = ma)
    3. There are boards perpendicular to the ice, and when you fall, you land on ice or go head first into the boards, not grass!
    • physco827, on 04/24/2008, -3/+1I like the little physics reminder in there. Force = mass*acceleration, nicely done.
    • mike17032, on 04/24/2008, -1/+2Its not quite that simple for #2, there is a whole lot more that goes into how solid a hit is.

      You might be moving faster on the ice, but you cant plant or launch yourself for a massive hit like you can on solid ground. Two fast moving players bouncing off each other hurts a whole lot less than one player leveling the other.

      And the NFL players tend to be a whole lot bigger and a whole lot stronger.
      • tellahoohooo, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4Your right about there's a lot more that goes into a hit, but believe me, you can get plenty of leverage on the ice... Your on two blade that dig in similar to cleats in grass...

        NFL line man yes...are bigger...but on average...NHL players are just as big, if not bigger than NFL players...and as for stronger...that's just a load of b.s. right there...

        look up some stats on hockey players... i believe the league average is 6'1" 200lbs
        That's not including gaining 3" from skates & about 10lbs from equipment...
  • britewire, on 04/24/2008, -6/+3Ausie rules...

    But between these 2, hockey by a mile
  • vanguardanon, on 04/24/2008, -0/+15In hockey they are moving a lot faster, the playing field is surrounded by walls, and the ice is a lot harder than the grass. Also, I noticed that for hockey they didn't have to go back to the 1960's to find hard hitting footage. Finally, I know a lot of hockey footage that they left out.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3744368008 ...
  • raublekick, on 04/24/2008, -3/+15In the NHL, players get close to rupturing a testicle (Thoresen), players fight, players lose teeth, players get black eyes, and sometimes players try to draw blood from themselves to incur a larger penalty on the opposing team. What does the NFL do? Make rules against celebrating in the end zone?
    • Tamant, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2lol For every hockey article, 10 posts about Thoreson's testicles show up. Poor guy being remembered for only that.
    • Kronos6948, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2Let's not forget Malarchuk's throat being slashed, and then coming back (I believe) the next game.
  • webmastir, on 04/24/2008, -1/+21NHL is a real mans sport. I give credit to NFL, for obvious reasons, but NHL is by far much better to watch/see.
  • Weip, on 04/24/2008, -1/+5Hockey by far!
  • Jhiaxuz, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6Clint Malarchuck or the recent Richard Zednik would say hockey. Google it.
    • b04155, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1I didn't watch the whole video, but was Joe Theismann's his in there? Still not as rough as getting an Italian necktie though.
  • over900000, on 04/24/2008, -10/+5Some rugby stuff
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc0Ut5y-GRc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvMFHXcd0yQ

    Although AFL is ***** nasty as well.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiGoqObb0YQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cz-vseUX9k
    • avatarpalin, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2Respect to that, being an AFL fan.. it's a different kind of brutality.. a smash can occur from any angle at any point in time..

  • Locnar, on 04/24/2008, -0/+19Even though I'm a Huge NFL fan... I have to say NHL... just on the fact that I've never seen a Quarterback get his throat cut during a game.. ( maybe a fan in the stands..)
  • jturbo, on 04/24/2008, -6/+1Weaponry? Hah...obviously an American that is one of the many that allow their NHL teams attendance to flounder. Disgrace. There have been only a few "stick incidents" in the NHL. For your information the "same" people are generally involved in all the fights, and 95% of players don't fight. Now, if fighting was allowed in the NFL there would be all out brawls every game, the reasons are pretty apparent. The NFL is in large part a blocking game - blocking what? hits/tackles of course - now try blocking the the NHL...penalty. And for all you deuchbags that say hockey isn't a sport... use some LSAT logic and you'll see that it is indeed a sport. Morons.
    • Jhiaxuz, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Yeah not to mention it would be pretty senseless to try and deck someone wearing a closed face mask and a ton of padding. Also, i'm not sure what you mean by blocking and getting a penalty in the NHL. If you mean blocking shots, than you sir have just made my day. The only penalty you get from blocking is if you are interfering with the goalie.
      • josephbloseph, on 04/24/2008, -0/+0Probably meant interference penalties; blocking other players from getting to the puck.
    • jeebus16, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3please re-read your own comment and then paraphrase it so we might have a chance to understand whatever point it is that you're trying to make. you touch on about 5 different things but fail to make any good arguments. you fail again by ending your diatribe with an insult to nobody in particular (who says hockey isn't a sport?) since no one was making that case in the first place. also, you spelled douchebag incorrectly.
    • tehnico, on 04/24/2008, -2/+1Fighting is not allowed in the NHL, that's why you get a 5 minute penalty.
    • dosapede, on 04/24/2008, -0/+0I've seen plenty of 'stick incidents' involving a cross check to the back or front of a head. I'd definitely consider the stick a weapon there.
  • zalpz, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6hockey is difficult to compare to sports that require just a ball to play. football is one of the more respectable games seeing as there's hard hitting and the opportunity for big plays. Hockey on the other hand is the best sport to play and watch, its faster then basketball, not so stop&go like football, and fighting is allowed and has very detailed rules.

    go rangers!
  • redlantern64, on 04/24/2008, -1/+13Twice in the past 20 years NHL players have had their throats slashed by another player's skate. As much as I want to say football is more brutal, how do you beat that?
  • FearisFailure, on 04/24/2008, -2/+7If you notice in the NFL side of the video all the clips are from the early 90's they don't hit like that anymore in the NFL. In the video side of the NHL its from the early 90's to the present. I played both Hockey and Football and I got more injuries playing Hockey than I did in Football..
    • hsooms, on 04/24/2008, -0/+0they don't hit like that anymore? try telling that to chad johnson http://youtube.com/watch?v=nrXNwwOlZ30&feature=rel ...
      the main reason the clips are from way back is because the guy who made this video just stole from other clip videos on youtube, and the NFL cracks down on footage on youtube so not many current videos stay on the site, whereas the NHL is more lax and even has its own youtube channel. But as anyone who watches the NFL knows, there are at least 5-10 brutal hits every NFL weekend
    • Jamminpotato, on 04/24/2008, -0/+22 words: Sean Taylor.
  • tehnico, on 04/24/2008, -0/+9There were sooo many illegal hits in the hockey clips, lots of leaving your feet and elbows galore. That said, so many of the legal ones were as jaw shattering
    • mike17032, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2The NFL side had its share of hits that were illegal too. Hell I remember some of them and the 15 yards it cost the team.
  • JezusGhoti, on 04/24/2008, -6/+2If all we're discussing is big hits, then the NFL is more brutal. In hockey, you can't leave your feet when delivering a hit, you can't hit from behind and you can't really get that much leverage on skates. In the NFL, free safeties can charge at you from the other side of the field and jack you up from behind.

    However, if you consider all the other factors that have been brought up (longer season, potential for serious injury, fighting allowed, etc.), then hockey might win out.
    • Pake, on 04/24/2008, -1/+3Big hits? Nah, that's still hockey. Sure, a guy can run at you across the field in football, but a guy can skate twice as fast across the ice, weigh almost as much, and slam your ass into a board that almost doesn't give and land on a surface that is equivalent to concrete.
    • morpheus69, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1Did you even watch the video? Most of the hits were guys leaving their feet... and there are plenty of hits from behind. I think you meant to say that these things are illegal, but they happen all the time so that doesn't make it any less tough!
  • naggle, on 04/24/2008, -1/+5I would like to see a football player block a 100+ mph slap shot!!!!!!
    • FearisFailure, on 04/24/2008, -1/+2***** yeah!! is all I have to say...Thank you Naggle you proved my point..NFL players whine and moan when a 15 mph football hits their poor little fingers..
  • pojut, on 04/24/2008, -1/+8To be honest, both (American) football and hockey are insanely brutal and potentially devastating to the bodies of the folks that play them. I'm sure there some evidence that one hits harder than the other or whatnot, but frankly you have to be a monster to do either of them professionally.

    I have one final thing to add:

    C-A-P-S CAPS CAPS CAPS

    They FINALLY made it to the playoffs again this year...next year, the cup!
    • MisterEX, on 04/24/2008, -1/+6Go Flyers! Sorry, I had to.
      • pojut, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4Better watch out. Brashear will kick your teeth in ;-) He is such a badass. An ass, but also a badass.

        Dugg up for being a hockey fan
        • josephbloseph, on 04/24/2008, -1/+0You got the part about Brashear being an ass right.
          • pojut, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Hey, at least he isn't as bad as Chris Simon...that guy is completely nuckin futs
    • xXMetalJesusXx, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1The OV show put on a good run to end the season and get them to Game 7. When my sens were swept in 4, I kinda took on the Caps as my team to root for. And ***** next year, the OV show is locked down for YEARS, multiple cups in Washington for sure in the next 10 years
  • haymarket, on 04/24/2008, -1/+4Double the speed, quadruple the force....just saying
    • element247, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Double the speed, quadruple the energy.
      Somebody failed physics class!
    • Pake, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1KE = (1/2)mv^2
      F = ma
    • Funpolice2050, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1e=mC^2 (This has no relevence, I just want to look smart).
  • sagat, on 04/24/2008, -0/+7Hockey wins this hands down based on numer of lost teeth. There's only one game I would consider more dangerous than hockey and that's hurling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJFHpc5akmg
  • avatarpalin, on 04/24/2008, -4/+2Rugby, one spear tackle and your neck is almost certainly going to be broken..
  • plundstedt, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3Mute it if you don't want your ears to fall off.
  • naggle, on 04/24/2008, -1/+5Canadian Curling is the the most dangerous sport EVER. lol
    • TEMM, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2Any sport that encourages drinking even at high level competitions is ok in my book!
  • limpl0uie, on 04/24/2008, -1/+5Having played a lot of hockey in my youth I have to say that there is no greater feeling in sports then throwing out a well timed hip-check and watching the opponent rag doll head over heels like a Max Payne baddie.

    Hip-checks and hockey FTW
  • billiamboy, on 04/24/2008, -1/+2the only problem is the NFL hits had to range all of the way back to the 50s it looks like (in one hit) and the NHL get an entire new real of awesome hits just in a year. I love both but those Canadians just love getting hurt. PLUS hockey players break bones and smash faces and it's looked down if you don't get back out and finish the game.
  • Radical5, on 04/24/2008, -7/+4UFC
    • cracker42, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3You mean MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) in general, since the UFC actually has more strict rules than foreign organizations (such as no knees to the head of downed opponent)
      • Radical5, on 04/24/2008, -1/+2Sure, why not.

        UFC is still more brutal than hockey or football though.

        While there are less life threatening injuries in the UFC than NHL/NFL/Rugby, you're still gonna get your ass kicked.
  • had3l, on 04/24/2008, -3/+23 minutes of NFL, 7 minutes of NHL. I wonder if there is a bias.
    • DalamarArgent, on 04/24/2008, -1/+53 minutes of NFL is all the "brutal"ness they could come up with. NHL defines brutal.
  • avatarpalin, on 04/24/2008, -6/+4Rugby! Where you body is put through some extreme situations in the name of a sport

    The Prop will run 35+ Kilometers an hour, weighing about 125 Kilograms into a pack of men running towards him, he will do this about 45 plus times a match. You will get your face raked, with studded boots. Fist fights that are allowed to continue. Spear tackles that have resulted in people necks being broken.

    Oh and there is the one where you make yourself a human wall between the ball and the other team, where they will slam into your exposed back with their knee's. They will stomp your head and with the other team completely on top of you then your eyes will be gouged and fingers will be put up your *****.

    NFL + NHL , Kevlar padding
    Rugby, none
    • fibreoptix, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1A direct hit with the puck in the chest can stop your heart. Therefore Kevlar is needed.
  • smiyamoto, on 04/24/2008, -0/+11It's got to be hockey come on! Steel, ice, blood, teeth. It's the closest thing we have to a blood sport. Name another sport that allows players to fight and awards a winner? Throw a guy through the glass or over the boards no probs. The players wouldn't even wear helmets if they didn't have to. Ever see the crew come out to clean up blood on the ice? It's really disturbing really. Football is a joke compared to the NHL. I'd much rather take my chances on the grass rather than in a fenced in ice rink with no escape. And Aussie rules? I played that in high school. It's a little girls game for small little ladies. Aussie ladies.
    • MisterEX, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3"Name another sport that allows players to fight and awards a winner?"

      Boxing.
      • Yazilliclick, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1Maybe in it's hayday but boxing these days from what I've forced myself to watch ends up being a long drawn out hugging match more often than not.
  • MisterEX, on 04/24/2008, -8/+9I've played them both and I love them both. Here's a plus/minus for both sports:
    NHL Positives +
    Hockey sticks, skates and pucks are all extremely dangerous at high speeds.
    When you hit the ground, it's a solid 1" thick piece of ice.
    Face protection is minimal to non-existent (for non-goalies).
    There's no where to run. Only solid boards to be smashed into.
    Fighting is allowed to finish (for the most part).
    Hockey has fewer stops during game play.
    82 games increases your chance at injury.
    NHL Negatives -
    Ice time is minimal. 40 seconds per line change.
    Hits are every once in awhile.
    Fights, though cool, are usually rare.
    Padding is heavy, especially the legs.
    It is illegal to leave your feet during a hit.

    NFL Positives +
    There's a tackle almost every play.
    It is legal to leave your feet for a solid hit (spearing is illegal though).
    On average the men are bigger and stronger.
    Padding on the legs is minimal.
    Average play time is substantially longer.
    Blind-sided hits happen more often.
    Weather can be a factor.
    NFL Negatives -
    More head and face protection.
    More stoppages of play.
    There's an out of bounds to run to.
    Only a few players actually take or give the hits (for the most part).
    Softer than ice grass or turf.
    A player can slide to the ground to stop play.

    In football I've played both receiver and safety and I have given and received some serious blows. No matter the case, it still hurt even if you were the giver. In hockey I played goalie and center. For goalie, other than the occasional kamikaze flying into goal, nothing hurt too bad. As a center I had been shoved face first into the boards, up-ended, and checked many times over. A few of those hits gave me a bruise, but nothing ever kept me out of the game. Also, getting checked into the glass helps to soften the blow a bit. All in all, I could have easily played an 82 game season for hockey, but would have been in need of some serious healing time if football would have gone 16 games.

    My vote is: NFL.
    • fokov, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2NHL ice time short, only if you are doing good. most first line players are more like 1.5 minutes of sprinting whereas an NHL player, the few that get too, will sprint for a few seconds, then go back to the bench with an air conditioner and pure oxygen.
      It is illegal to hit leaving your feet now because it did too much damage. football players aren't moving fast when they leave their feet. Hockey players are going 30 mph = loss.
      Paddin on the legs is a negative? it is there to stop them from breaking a hip from crashing into the boards, once again, going much faster than anyone in the NFL. NFL has pads because the players were too much of a bunch of pussies to take and give a hit.
      Weather can be a factor - not anymore, too many pussies in control now only a few real teams left.
      NFL players = fat, NHL players = lean.
    • mrenerstat, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0So far no mention of Lacrosse. My choice for 2nd after Hockey... NFL is just a bunch of Prima Donna's capable of only 16 "performances" a season... almost as safe as basketball.
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