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- doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+60Temple beat
Bowling Green who beat
Eastern Michigan who beat
Toledo who beat
Kansas who beat
Iowa St who beat
Missouri who beat
Mississippi who beat
Vanderbilt who beat
Georgia who beat
Auburn who beat
Florida - SlackerCSB, on 10/12/2007, -21/+74The BCS is a joke. Ohio State is going to win this game by 30+ points and prove what a mistake it was.
How can you let sportswriters and biased coaches decide who plays in the championship when you could just have a playoff system? Just terrible... - bscott86, on 10/12/2007, -12/+45Go Gators! I'm glad we made it, but man, we really need a playoff system.
Even the top 6 teams would eliminate a lot of controversy. Just give the #1 and #2 ranked teams a bye week (or two). - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+34Just want to make a point that I'm an OSU fan and I don't care how UF got to the NC game. They are here because they won games. I don't care about style points and whatnot, or by how much we are favored. After we won the NC game in 2002, I hoped that if we were ever in a position to play for another NC game, we would NEVER act as cocky as Miami fans did prior to the '03 Fiesta Bowl. I hope other OSU fans follow in kind.
Here's to a good, clean, first-ever match-up between the Buckeyes and the Gators for the National Championship! - FreddieFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23When Boise State schedules tough out of conference teams and beats another BCS team, they can ask that question without looking sheepish.
- paullehrer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30I think the Gators deserve the chance to play OSU. If Michigan played them again and won, who is the national champion then? But I really feel bad for Wisconsin, they only lost one game all season, to Michigan, and even though they didn't have the greatest schedule the get shut out of the BCS. A good story about why the BCS is so bad and how Wisconsin didn't get into the BCS is: http://digg.com/football/Wisconsin_is_school_with_real_BCS_beef
Overall I think there will be some good match ups in the BCS, but I don't think Notre Dame deserves a BCS bowl, but they are to popular. Go Gators and Badgers! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Over the past 4 years, the number one team in the championship game has lost three times.
- piyaca, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23Had Michigan not played OSU and lost to some other team, they would be in the championship, for sure. That is not right.
- FreddieFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23Nobody is arguing that Florida deserves a spot. But if the game is supposed to match up the two best teams in the country, who here actually believes Florida is a better football team than Michigan?
How does a team lose to the number one team in the land by just 3 on the road.....get voted #2 by coaches and press.......and then without losing a single game drop twice in the polls.
How does that happen? - kkevlar14, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23@fishface
He didn't say anything about Tressel. He said the system is biased. You are right, the coaches are the most knowledgable, but knowledge has nothing to do with bias.
The coaches ARE biased because of the money distribution. ENTIRE CONFERENCES get money if that conference is represented in the championship game. That makes having two Big Ten teams in the champtionship game (OSU/UM) isn't profitable for the other conferences, like the SEC (Florida).
The BCS cannot be unbiased when the money that football programs get is directly related to who plays in what bowl games, and the coaches decide the standings...
BCS Sucks, UM got screwed. - capn_caveman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18As an OSU fan, congrats to Florida for making it to the game. Bring your A game ;)
- ZWash300, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15It amazes me how college football can't learn a thing or two from college basketball. There's a reason for the name March Madness - the tournament is exciting and constantly produces classic games and legendary shots. The teams have to FIGHT like hell to get to the Final Four, and that's the way it should be in football as well. I realize the tournament could not be as large and should not have anywhere close to as many teams as basketball does. But anything is better than the BCS. It would make me watch a lot more college football, especially in December.
- kavery, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20First, we'd all love a playoff, but it's never going to happen.
That said, Michigan had their shot at the crown two weeks ago and blew it. This isn't a game of horse with a farewell shot rule.
They made the right call. Give the Gators the chance to dethrone Goliath. - billucf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@blankman2g
The SEC has 3 teams in the top 10: Florida (2), LSU (4), and Auburn (9). Plus they have Arkansas at #12. Having 4 teams in the top 12 is pretty damn good for any conference. - imrambi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15Great follow up article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2685195
Great arguments on why Michigan should have a rematch. - a22e, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17Go Bucks!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11SEC has 3 teams in the top 10, and 2 teams playing in BCS bowls. It also has 5 teams total in the top 20. If the SEC is your 3rd best conference who's your second?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+24Watch out because this could very well be one of those championship games where the underdog comes in and stuns people.
I've seen it time and time again where the team with the Heisman trophy winner goes into the championship game and blows it. I know Troy Smith doesn't have it yet, but he will win the Heisman. - vsujohn2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@spisska
Did you know that D1a is the only Division in the NCAA that DOESNT have playoffs (football)?
So D1aa, DII, DIII all have to go through these games to win a national championship, why cant D1a? If they are the better athletes, prove it on the field, that way theres no doubt and no controversy.
I witnessed this playoff awesomeness in 2004 when my school made it through to the national championship in d2 and won it all.
And every year, EVERY year there are good undefeated teams knocked out in the early rounds of the playoffs, because they proved that they were better - kavery, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11SEC > WAC x Infinite
- kavery, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12What, do you want flying dragons and dungeon music to play when dealing with the sports section?
It's here for a reason; deal with it. - Eldorian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7As I said previously, Division 2 (I think Div I-AA also) has a playoff system. Currently the teams that made it into the semi finals are playing game #14 this week, winners go on to game #15.
The only thing keeping the Bowl games in play are corporate sponsorships and traditions. - Toast1185, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Odd to bash the OSU flukes Michigan's 3 point loss to the #1 team in the country when Florida benefited so much from much of the same thing. Fielding a punt over your shoulder inside the five, 3 blocked kicks (including an extra point!) from an inept special teams unit in south carolina. The list could go on, but those were the only two Florida games I've seen and I don't feel like researching others.
It isn't Michigan's fault that the teams they can't blow are good enough to overcome mistakes - mwolfzorn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7How can you be National Champion and not win your conference?
- Windowlicker, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Ok, Michigan lost to OSU @ OSU by 3 points. The game could have easliy went either way. USC lost to an unranked team so they should have been out of it a while ago. And Florida got beat by 10 points..... The system is obviously flawed and a playoff system would be best.
As far as Div II goes, I've got bad news for ya Eldorian, GVSU is gonna take the title again. At this point it's not if they win, it's by how much ;-) - albrad84, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I think even a 4 team playoff would be great (at least to start off)
Ohio State vs LSU and Florida vs Michigan.... how cool would that be?
You would only have to add 1 extra game, which would answer many of the critics who say a playoff would add too many extra games (see spisska above). Also, you could already use the bowl structure that is already in place. 2 games in one BCS bowl, the Championship game in another, and everybody else just plays regular bowl games, which would keep most of the "tradition" aspects that other critics complain about.
Plus, in college football, I think the chances of the winner coming outside of the top 4 is a lot slimmer than in College Basketball. - Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5They need to hurry up and adopt a playoff system to decide who plays in the national championship game. It's getting tiring to have to hear the fans of at least one school go on and on about how their team deserved to go, not one of the others.
- BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10The Gators suck. Michigan was robbed twice now.
- doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6yes they are 8-0
you can argue that they have the right to play for the national title
but you can also argue that they don't deserve a bcs birth either because of their weak schedule
oh and i love how Wisconsin and Auburn are ranked higher than Notre Dame and Notre Dame gets the bcs birth. I can't stand Notre Dame, they are the most over rated team ever and the media just loves to suck their #$%&'s
Which is what this really boils down to, which two teams will get the highest ratings
Ohio State vs Michigan repeat?
Ohio State vs Boise State, HA, even though they are both undefeated that would make a lousy national championship game
Ohio State vs Florida? - FreddieFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Who was the highest ranked team Oklahoma beat this year?
- FreddieFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Mr Stabby, say what you want but Wisconsin was a quality win. And they finished ahead of Auburn.
Come on, they scheduled Western Carolina for pete's sake. Not only was it a AA school, its a BAD AA school. You want to pick on AA teams in November? Schedule Youngstown State on the road. That might be fun to watch.
By the way, nice analysis a few minutes ago. - mylavask86, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I don't understand what all this Michigan and Ohio State rematch is about. Every single person knew what that battle was about. They knew the winner would be in the title and and the loser looking at an outside shot. Michigan had the shot. They did not do it. Whether it was at home or on the road, they had their shot and did not finish the job. It is not correct to ask Ohio State to defeat a team they already defeated and is not right to Florida to be left out for a Michigan team that already got beat. You cannot give two chances to a team. It is not appealing. For all the people that say Michigan is the second best team in the country, well, it was but Ohio State beat the second best team in the country...so how can they still be the second best team in the country? If Michigan loses by 1 point are people going to say to give them another chance? It is one and done. Michigan took their chance and did not pull through. Live with what the results are and then let the next team play. Michigan might be a better team then Florida but the two best teams in the country already played a few weeks ago and Ohio State was the victor. Now you have to let the next time in line play and that is Florida.
For all the people that are predicting a beating for Florida, watch out, the SEC is not a joke. The Gators held Darren McFadden and Felix Jones, the top rushing offense in the conference; that defense aint no joke either.
The game will be close. Ohio State has a great offense but the Gators have a ridiculous defense. It will come down to special teams...the Gators can't kick worth crap, but if they score they wont have to kick much.
If the game is anything like last years, it'll be fantastic. - Slugger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Arkansas played one hell of a game yesterday. Good luck to Arkansas in their bowl game.
- Ascus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Easy why ND is in a BCS Bowl, ND fans and alumni spend more $$ than any other team. I think if they went 0-10 they would get a bowl game birth,
- GatorLCA, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Why in heck would we schedule harder out of conference matchups when the conference is hard enough as it is?
People say Western Carolina was a gimmie game...yes it was, but wasn't Ball State a gimmie game for Michigan but only won by 8? Please, at least we shut them out and scored 60 some odd points.
Obliviously this will dugg down but face the facts, Michigan wouldn't stand a chance in the SEC and Florida's only competition in the Big-10 if placed in there would be OSU. - falcon734, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Don't you mean Michigan crush USC? USC lost to UCLA - there's absolutely no reason for them to be in the title game. But if Michigan wins, and more importantly (as you correctly stated) OSU beats Florida handily, it'll be pretty clear that it should have been OSU-Michigan, and also clear that a playoff should have been used to determine that.
- doddilus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"you're forgetting that each conference can only have 2 teams go to BCS bowls each year"
which is silly, but i do understand why they do it even though it doesn't make a lick of sense merely looking at the rankings. They want conference champs to play each other and theirs not enough room at the top so some teams get shafted.
Playoffs will be more fair to the better teams, but the big conferences won't make as much money. Which is what this REALLY boils down to: money - mmortal03, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"A good story about why the BCS is so bad and how Wisconsin didn't get into the BCS is http://digg.com/football/Wisconsin_is_school_with_real_BCS_beef"
Wisconsin (and Boise State, for that matter) has no gripe. They played the 81st (BSU the 85th) "hardest" schedule, in Division I-A this year, out of 119 teams. To put that in perspective, only one BCS conference team played an easier schedule than Wisconsin did this year, and that was Kansas, coming in at 94th. There are only 65 teams in the BCS conferences, therefore, 18 teams that *aren't* in the 6 BCS conferences played harder schedules than Wisconsin! That is inexcusable as far as scheduling for a BCS conference team, even when they do it years in advance. They might have been hinging their bets on Bowling Green's better years, but them knowingly scheduling Buffalo, Western Illinois, and San Diego St, along with already having the traditional doormat Illinois on their schedule? Ridiculous.
Basically, Wisconsin needed to beat Michigan or they weren't going to be able to have a shot at beating anyone of significance. They lost that game, and they have no further argument. - WiidFiend, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'm tired of all this "Michigan only lost to OSU by 3 points" garbage...while it may be true, it doesn't at all demonstrate the disparity on the field on November 18th.
OSU handed the Wolverines two fluky turnovers, one inside the OSU 10 yard line, both bad snaps by a center with his hand in a cast. The Buckeyes outgained Michigan by 106 yards (503-397), and that's ignoring the fact that the offense ceased playing with any sense of urgency during the 3rd quarter. A 28-14 halftime lead can do that to you. Alex Boone, the LT, was coming off a knee injury that hobbled him for two weeks prior, and Anderson Russell, a great DB, was out.
None of these are excuses. The right team won the game. I'm just trying to make the point that at full strength they would have won by more. Now, don't get me wrong, a rematch would have been a completely different game, as I tend to believe that rematches favor the loser. But I also don't think a rematch would be fair, because it would completely annihilate the meaning of OSU's prior victory. It's BS to say that a BCS win would make Michigan the rightful champion because "they won when it counted." Then why the hell did the two teams play on 11/18? Was that an exhibition? OSU has to beat the Wolverines twice, but Michigan only has to win once? At that point, a split championship would be the only reasonable solution, and I don't think anybody wants to see that. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ditto, Slugger. Even though my beloved Auburn Tigers took a dive towards the end of the season, at least we can claim we've beaten both SEC teams in the BCS games. Oh, and Slugger... fear the left hand!
- RoboPimp3000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Spisska -
A 4-team playoff would only add one extra game. An 8-team playoff would only add two extra games. And then only for a small number of teams. There's a month-long break between the end of the season and the bowl games--just play the first-round playoff games a week or two earlier - it wouldn't extend the season into February. If anything, the season would end at the same time.
As for injuries, adding one or two games for a very small number of teams (4 at most) isn't going to significantly increase the rate of injuries in college football. - falcon734, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5How can you say that after USC lost to UCLA?? Come on man. I agree that Florida can't hold up again OSU, but there's no argument for USC here.
- Eldorian, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8If #1 and #2 played each other (assuming Michigan was #2) in a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP bowl game. The winner should be the obvious national champion.
Then again I forget that NCAA Div. I football makes up their own ranking rules that really don't mesh with any rational or common sense thinking. So you might be right. - fishface, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@doddilus - love the logo, go Hokies! I'll be at the chick-fil-a bowl
you're forgetting that each conference can only have 2 teams go to BCS bowls each year. So Wisconson and Auburn weren't eligible after OSU, Michigan, Florida and LSU were selected.
The next available choices were Notre Dame, West VA, and Virginia Tech. All 2 loss teams. ND - losses to #3 Michigan and #5 USC. WV loss to #6 Louisville, unranked South FLA. VT - losses to now unranked GT and #24 BC.
all rankings I used were the current BCS standings - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So was Miami in 1992, and Alabama kicked their asses!
- jeff25624, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I'm not an OSU fan, nor a Florida fan, nor a Michigan fan. Until last night, when CBS showed a graphic depicting Florida's schedule, I thought Michigan was going to face off against OSU again. However, I did not realize the year Florida had. First off, they, just like Michigan finished with one loss. More importantly, Florida did it in the tougher conference this year. The Big 10 had three quality teams in OSU, Michigan, and WI. The SEC at various points had Arkansas, Alabama, Tenn., Auburn, Georgia, etc etc playing at high levels. For Florida to come out of the SEC conference play with one loss...well that is something.
- FreddieFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7The rule is that only two teams per conference. You are not saying they deserved a shot ahead of the other two....are you? You rise based on the teams you beat. Who did they beat out of conference? Bowling Green, San Diego State, Ball State and Buffalo? Please. That's as bad as Florida's.
- LordOfTheSponge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The whole system is screwed up. But it is what it is.
If you ask me, let FL play Michgan,
Ohio State plays whoever is # 4,
then you let the winners play for the real championship. - FreddieFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ohio State is going to Field Turf next year. Way too many problems with growing the natural stuff lately. A little embarassing for a world famous agro-tech school actually.
(The loose turf actually caused one of the two unforced fumbles in our own red zone. That may have been the final straw for the OSU AD).
What's up with southern fans claiming some sort magic turf explaining Ohio State's speed? You don't see any of those teams playing outside in late November. - sissipher, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I have been watching the line in Vegas all night(I live here). It started with OSU favored by 7. Well, tons of people went up and could not believe that was the line. It has since moved to 8.5. I talked with a buddy of mine in a Sportsbook who said that by the end of next weekend that the line will be around 10. Also, if Michigan and Florida played, the initial line would be Michigan by 6.
Yes, the top two teams are not playing which is really obvious, but what can you do?
OSU, Michigan, and Wisconsin all win, Big Ten finishes with the top 3 teams. -
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