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- openthink, on 01/17/2009, -0/+27Jets should grab Gruden
- KimmyGibbler, on 01/17/2009, -0/+22This won't make the Bucs not suck next year
- PGPirate, on 01/17/2009, -1/+14fans of the NFL and american sports care
- quomen, on 01/17/2009, -0/+12The name brand coaches have failed there too. They need an ownership and management change. The coach is not the root of their problems.
- quomen, on 01/17/2009, -2/+12Wow, along with Mike Shanahan, this is a huge surprise.. They are idiots. This guy won them a superbowl.
- xOKxWhy, on 01/17/2009, -1/+11Good 'ol Al is picking up his phone
- sarcasmo2k5, on 01/17/2009, -0/+10I wish the Lions would have waited now. Gruden would've been a sweet pick-up.
- krahzee, on 01/17/2009, -1/+10No way Dungy goes back to Tampa. He retired from a 12-4 team. HE chose to leave.
Why would he give up arguably the best QB in the league and a frachise where he was the man, only to come back to Tampa, a team with the QB cluster ***** they have going on down there? (a 38yo Garcia, with McCown & Griese as his backups)
Tampa went 9-7 last season. With a winning record and two of the bigger name QBs already deciding to stay in school, you know they will not get a high pick without trading away a ton, and Matt Cassell, the only really big name available, is a year away from being available since the Pats will franchise him to protect against Brady having a slow recovery. New England can afford it under and stay under the cap.
No, I say Dungy stays retired this season at least. He made his bones and got his ring. If he ever want back in he will be able to pick the right situation for himself, much like Cowher is able to. - inactive, on 01/17/2009, -0/+8Tampa finished out the year terribly, but seriously? I'd blame the end of the year skid more on the fact that Monte Kiffin announced in season that he was leaving at the year's end to be defensive coordinator for his son at Tennessee. The defense seemed to quit after that announcement was made, which was lethal to Tampa considering that their offense was more of a grind-it-out type offense than one that would light up the scoreboard. With opposing offenses scoring almost at will (see the Raiders game), Tampa's offense just couldn't keep up.
- 8randon, on 01/17/2009, -0/+7no, but a 0-4 finish is considered bad.
45-53 in the past couple years isn't amazing either. - 1gunners4, on 01/17/2009, -0/+6Not only did he win them a SB with Tony Dungy's team, he's shown a complete inability to develop young talent (as exhibited by his lack of a QB 7 years later), he can't win big games without his defense (not his offense's rankings), and has a losing record since the SB (he doesn't have a playoff win).
The Bucs fired Tony Dungy when he performed better than Gruden has; this is not surprised for the Glazers in the least. - krahzee, on 01/17/2009, -0/+5139-69 record in his career and a ring. The man far from sucked.
- kingbinji, on 01/17/2009, -1/+5can't say that i agree or disagree with this move. yea, gruden won us a superbowl but is way too inconsistent as a coach. then again, i can't see any coach out there coming in and making an immediate difference in tampa. i guess only time will tell
- method7670, on 01/17/2009, -0/+4There's a smart move... /sarcasm
- RevJonathan, on 01/17/2009, -0/+3Meanwhile, we Tennessee fans would rather have Gruden. He owns land here and would have been a perfect fit. Of course, at 9-3, no one was thinking to fire him. Bad timing for Gruden.
- WoWii, on 01/17/2009, -0/+3Our Chiefs have "hella" amounts of budget for next year.
- wrzhydr, on 01/17/2009, -4/+7Finally! They should have never let Dungy go!
- yacks, on 01/17/2009, -0/+3Isn't Millen gone already? Matt was their biggest problem...
- CTRaiderThe1st, on 01/17/2009, -2/+5With Tony Dungy's team.
- RevJonathan, on 01/17/2009, -0/+3The rest of college football would rather see Urban Meyer there. Mostly to get him the hell outta Florida.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 01/17/2009, -0/+2Good move, Gruden is an average coach.
- fooolio, on 01/17/2009, -1/+3Its about time...
The only reason this team won a Superbowl and was decent for the past few years was because of the defense, and when the D coordinator says he's leaving and the defense starts sucking, the entire team becomes one giant fail. - RansomHoldiay, on 01/17/2009, -1/+3tampa has a lot of love for dungy. it was his team that gruden took over and took to the super bowl.
- ryanguerra11, on 01/17/2009, -2/+4Lets get Chucky back to his real home in Oakland!!!
- inactive, on 01/17/2009, -0/+2Never mind. The Glazers did their homework, gathering a lot of feedback from players and such before making their decision:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/16/glazers- ... - yacks, on 01/17/2009, -0/+2@smacksaw:
If the Refs haven't handed the Steelers the Super Bowl in '05.... He may have won a Super Bowl that year.. - smacksaw, on 01/17/2009, -1/+3It requires "Breaking" more than this thread requires a comment such as yours.
- yacks, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1Good thing the Browns already hired Mangini..
- inactive, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1Welcome back to Oakland Chucky!
- g8trGTO, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1Dungy is from Tampa and his son goes to high school there. He's known to be a family-oriented guy and prides himself on that. He chose to leave Indy to be with his family in Tampa which is the ONLY reason I'd see him consider the Bucs job. But it's a moot point because Raheem Morris has already been announced as the head coach.
- inactive, on 01/18/2009, -0/+1Good call.
- eibborjames, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1Don't let the door hit you in a the azz wing nut. You suck!
- holmcross, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1Buried for the stupid tag "breaking" in the title
- ryanms, on 01/16/2009, -4/+5Time for Change
- wdw25, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1shut up you have tim tebow coming back. quit your whining.
- Ne007, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1I'm sure the Browns would have taken him....
- Dr3w, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1Hush your mouth Rev, Percy leaving us is already hard enough without talk about Urban heading to his "dream job"
- wdw25, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1Gruden went 9-7. He started 9-3 then went 0-4. He had a chance to make the playoffs in the last game and all he had to do was beat the Raiders. I saw Gruden getting canned coming after that game and I'm surprised that they waited this long to do it.
- inactive, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1the vanishing point
- RevJonathan, on 01/17/2009, -0/+12 Years from now, Tebow and Meyer will be gone, and the Kiffin era will be in full swing up in Knoxville.
Funny thing is that is a very plausible option. The only way Meyer leaves is for Notre Dame or the NFL, and I think he's better off out of the NFL. Unless Notre Dame does something phenomenal next year, Meyer is Notre Dame bound.
Fret not though, 2 national championships in 3 years is nothing to scoff at. Enjoy the well-earned respect while it lasts, and GO VOLS! - iceman0113, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1"Gruden, 39 when the Bucs beat Oakland in the Super Bowl, went 60-57 in seven seasons, including a 3-2 mark in the playoffs."
Until I see you see coach a team 60-57, the best in that league btw, and win a superbowl, you need to STFU. - boat, on 01/17/2009, -1/+2Cant say that i will miss him more happy that they fired bruce allen he really sucked at drafting with the salary and getting 80 year old players
- smacksaw, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1You've pretty much proven my point right there. I bet you think Marv Levy is awesome and that the Bills are just as good as an actual Super Bowl winner.
Holmgren has proven that his win was a fluke. - eagleqb5, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1How can you say that Andy Reid and Mike Holmgen are ***** coaches, they each took their respective teams to the Super Bowl, and Reid has been to the NFC Championship 5 times since 2001. There are plenty of teams that would take a coach that can do that for them.
- paulsabo, on 01/17/2009, -0/+1This may well be the opposite of breaking... scientific substantiation to follow.
- smacksaw, on 01/17/2009, -1/+1In my best Jim Lahey, let me say that this is another ***** apple from the Bill Walsh ***** tree.
Gruden, Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Ray Rhodes, the list of ***** coaches goes on and on. Gruden is from a particularly mediocre branch, the Paul Hackett branch alongside such luminaries as Bill Callahan. At least Denny Green had some people come after him that didn't suck.
This is more proof that while the West Coast offense is an innovative system, when you are a cheater and circumvent both the spirit and the rules of the salary cap as Walsh and Jerry Jones did you can make anyone look good.
When you put these people on equal footing, they are exposed for the frauds they are. Jon Gruden is a QB coach, offensive coordinator at best. - Ryan32, on 01/17/2009, -2/+2The Chiefs should snag him up..... Of course with our budget we will also still suck.
- paulvq, on 01/17/2009, -1/+1We're talking about the NFL, not the NCAA. Two different types of 9-3.
- eagleqb5, on 01/17/2009, -0/+0you suck.
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