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BREAKING: Vick sentenced to 23 months for dogfighting
cnn.com — Michael Vick, once one of the highest paid players in the National Football League, was sentenced to 23 months in prison for financing a dogfighting ring and helping to kill pit bulls that did not fight aggressively.
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- MonsterChaOS, on 12/10/2007, -42/+76I hope he rots in hell for this. ...Sick bastard.
- ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -37/+23Get over it. He's not the first or last person to ever do this. True, as a famous athlete it goes without saying he must be an excellent role model, but cut him some slack, the man didn't murder anyone, didn't rape anyone, didn't buy automatic weapons. It's not enough that he lost his wife, his career, his fortune, his belongings, and 23 months of his life for this is it? You still want him to rot in hell? You need to get over it.
- govsucks, on 12/10/2007, -18/+28No, you get over it, this guy is more of a animal than the dogs he MURDERED. I'm sick and tired of people allowing guys like this a pass because he can catch a ***** football. Losing all that stuff is great, I hope the sorry sob never gets another contract and spends the rest of his life earning money off his intelligence. Asshole has everything anyone could ever want and then for fun beats, electrocutes and hangs mans best friend. Animals that want nothing but our love. HE IS A ASSHOLE and will get the same amount of pity from me that he offered those dogs.
- ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -21/+12"Asshole has everything anyone could ever want and then for fun beats, electrocutes and hangs mans best friend'
Whoa dude your estrogen levels are pretty high right now. WORSE ***** HAS HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. okay? Shut the ***** up and quit whining about it. Dogs are animals, get it? Just like all of you ***** americans love to go hunting and *****.. wheres the pity there? Just get the ***** over it already.- fantasticFlan, on 12/10/2007, -8/+4Yeah, it's not like he committed genocide /*****
- OwdenBowden, on 12/10/2007, -7/+1Ravamp:
This guy could rot in hell for all I care for what he did to the only animal that is 100% mans Best Friend. These creatures will lay their lives on the line for their master and this is how they get repaid by having their master slam their head into the ***** ground. - I am not a tree Hugger or a PETA freek but You ***** with my Dog and I'll Kill you without thinking about it! The fact that he got such a lean sentence tells everyone that if you are famous you can get away with anything - Just ask OJ. As far as getting over it - when that piece of ***** comes out of jail in 23 months I would advise him to just go an hide because there are people out there that are just waiting to do to him what he did to the dogs. It is a fact. And the fact that you are doing your best to start up with people over this just proves that you have no ***** clue and should be sharing the cell with vick so that when he gets lonely you will get some vick, and when he gets ***** off maybe he can slam your ***** head into the ground so we can rid the world of oxygen grabbing dumb ass mother ***** like you.
One Last Thing
GO ***** YOURSELF. - ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5OwdenBowden:
I bet that made you feel pretty proud of yourself for writing all that, like you did someone a favor. It's petty ill-minded fools like you that drown in a ***** glass of water and take everything that happens personally. He didn't ***** hurt your dog, so shut the ***** up. Your motivation for hating him is so indigent it makes me laugh, "he hurt a dog, let's hurt him the same way!" I'm sure that somehow, through someone you know, a cousin or an uncle raped/killed someone and I don't see you ***** a brick about that, I don't see you taking that so personally. You too need to get the ***** over it. - OwdenBowden, on 12/11/2007, -1/+1I am not placed on the Earth to do anyone a favor and I stand by my comments. Being from NYC I don't take much (if anything) personally. And, as for my family members killing or raping people - Never has happened and never will happen. What you might be referencing is YOUR family tree - but not mine. Oh and for the record - if you do rape/kill someone then you too should be put down.
As for M Vicks actions - here is another example of someone who has a tremendous gift and comes from a bad situation into instant fame and fortune - a great life - only to ***** IT UP. I have seen this so many times and I never in my wildest dreams can figure out why they never use their heads?
Further the fact that Vick, stephon marbury and others make statements "I always thought this was a sport" just proves that these people do not belong in society and should be killed. Again I am not a member of PETA nor am I a treeHuggin Liberal but I do take a strong stand on this because he did not kill 1 dog he killed 10, 20, 30 and who knows how many dogs - all for his amusement. Maybe YOU need to get the ***** over the fact that (1) DOG FIGHTING IS NOT A SPORT ; (2) 99% OF PEOPLE WHO DO THESE VERY TYPES OF THINGS TO ANIMALS ARE ANIMALS THEMSELVES AND ARE A STONES THROW AWAY FROM BEING SERIAL KILLERS AS THEIR REGARD FOR LIFE DOES NOT EXIST AT ALL and (3) THE MOTHER ***** SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR 25 YEARS AND BANED FROM ALL PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.
JUST LIKE VICK YOU DON'T THINK BEFORE YOU ACT EITHER.
- brhad56, on 12/10/2007, -11/+1123 months in my opinion is a little much. If he wasn't famous, i imagine he'd only see 10 months. As for going to hell. Farmers aren't shy about shooting dogs that mess with their live stock. Are they going to hell too? I don't take pleasure in hurting animals, but they are just animals. People put violent dogs down every day.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -4/+2Wrong. It's not enough. If you or I did this it would be more along the lines of 5+ years.
He's getting off with a lighter sentence BECAUSE he is famous and could afford a top lawyer and the system sees it as a benefit to let him off with less time and forced PSA work.
Furthermore, you and I are "just animals" too so that argument doesn't work.
As for people putting down violent animals every day, that is true. But he didn't just kill them, he MADE them violent. - republicker, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5Yea, pitbulls are probably worth about 10 days a piece. Other good dogs would get more credit because they are useful to society. You cant go torturing animals but 2 years in the clink is just ridiculous. U can kill a human and get less time.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -4/+2Wrong. It's not enough. If you or I did this it would be more along the lines of 5+ years.
- thebaron2, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2First of all, he's AN asshole - A asshole sounds awkward.
Secondly, he can THROW the football, not catch it. - CoolWind, on 12/10/2007, -1/+6Wow! This thread is a total whacko rampage. Dog lovers are truly insane.
- siszam, on 12/11/2007, -2/+1People have gotten less time for killing their children. For that matter, we live in a nation where people kill their unborn children by the tens of thousands per day. What he did was bad and he has lost everything for it. I think the punishment fits and we should be more outraged over the mass murder of children and soldiers than some dead dogs.
- ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -21/+12"Asshole has everything anyone could ever want and then for fun beats, electrocutes and hangs mans best friend'
- mtschmie, on 12/10/2007, -12/+17It's not just him that should rot in hell. As far as I'm concerned, those of you who defend the things he did can join him.
- swoosh_bnd, on 12/10/2007, -2/+9I don't see why you would want him to rot in hell, that's too extreme. While I don't think the things he did were by any means good, I do, however, believe that his punishment is just since he won't likely be doing it again. I don't see why you guys hate him so much for it.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2So if I murder someone "just once" then I should get a lighter sentence? Or are you going to make the argument that they are "just animals" like so many others?
I cannot stress enough that we are "just animals" also.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2So if I murder someone "just once" then I should get a lighter sentence? Or are you going to make the argument that they are "just animals" like so many others?
- swoosh_bnd, on 12/10/2007, -2/+9I don't see why you would want him to rot in hell, that's too extreme. While I don't think the things he did were by any means good, I do, however, believe that his punishment is just since he won't likely be doing it again. I don't see why you guys hate him so much for it.
- PaleGhost, on 12/10/2007, -11/+6you ***** piece of *****. Maybe we shoulld hunt morons like you down, beat, torture and slowly hang the likes og YOU.
AMERICA is the GREATEST country in the world. YOU, on the other hand are just a pile of useless *****,. ***** off and die, moron.- ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -8/+4I bet you enjoy having CNN and FOX spoon-feed you that ***** don't you you moron. AMERICA is going down the drain paleghost, and if you can't see that by now, the joke is on you.
- andregriffin, on 12/10/2007, -3/+5It's going down because of little ***** like you that wont stand up for justice and what's right.
- ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -8/+4I bet you enjoy having CNN and FOX spoon-feed you that ***** don't you you moron. AMERICA is going down the drain paleghost, and if you can't see that by now, the joke is on you.
- sherbertbones, on 12/10/2007, -6/+9Have you seen the pics of the dogs after a fight? It's nightmarish. Your logic is so out of whack it's not even funny.
"Dogs are animals, get it?"
No, not really.- threemagic, on 12/10/2007, -2/+7What about bum fights? Or homeless fights??? or even girls gone wild??? Where some asshole is making millions off degrading people for money?
the reality is we do this to other humans every day...the dogs didn't agree... but their instincts said kill anyway- sherbertbones, on 12/10/2007, -4/+1HAHA, god do you even know what you're talking about? You're wrong on so many levels.
- Herostratos, on 12/10/2007, -0/+6""Dogs are animals, get it?"
No, not really."
Then.... what are they? - siszam, on 12/11/2007, -1/+1Do you get that outraged over the pics of aborted fetuses? I think you sound seriously unbalanced. Your priorities are less than moral and rational. Maybe you should talk to someone or take your meds or something.
- threemagic, on 12/10/2007, -2/+7What about bum fights? Or homeless fights??? or even girls gone wild??? Where some asshole is making millions off degrading people for money?
- govsucks, on 12/10/2007, -18/+28No, you get over it, this guy is more of a animal than the dogs he MURDERED. I'm sick and tired of people allowing guys like this a pass because he can catch a ***** football. Losing all that stuff is great, I hope the sorry sob never gets another contract and spends the rest of his life earning money off his intelligence. Asshole has everything anyone could ever want and then for fun beats, electrocutes and hangs mans best friend. Animals that want nothing but our love. HE IS A ASSHOLE and will get the same amount of pity from me that he offered those dogs.
- funkedup, on 12/10/2007, -21/+60I think its kind of ridiculous. The fact that he has to spend so much time in prison. As said before, he didnt cause harm to anybody and already has lost so much. Dogfighting is no good, and I have a couple of dogs myself and am opposed to it, but the outcome would have been different if a white athlete was on trial for this. Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan have each had multiple DUI's and been convicted of drug possession and only spent days in jail. Driving under the influence can hurt other people, and people like that should face more serious punishment than Vick. I'm not saying Vick should be out scot-free, but our justice system is not making sense and thats where the real problem lies.
Some of you people seem to value dogs lives over humans life.- sw33tsarin, on 12/10/2007, -6/+17You forgot O.J. Simpson. Hes white, right? Oh wait, he only had to ***** up five times before people actually started to seek justice.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -6/+5There is more hope left for dogs than their is for the human race.
Your examples are poor. They could have hurt or killed someone while driving under th influence but they didn't.
Vick raised and trained dogs to fight. He then used them for dogfighting and when they lost he killed them. He treated them inhumanely for profit and entertainment.
To turn this into a race issue is beyond stupid. He is famous. He is expected to uphold a certain social responsibility (children look up to and often emulate famous people). What kind of message is he sending? It's okay to kill the innocent? It's okay to teach an animal to kill then kill it when you are tired of caring for it or it can no longer make a profit for you? Great attitude.
He was let off easy. 23 months should have been 23 years and it would have been were it not for his fame.
Of course so many people keep saying they were "just animals". I agree. They are just animals, just like the rest of us. Therefore, let's use that frame of mind. Now we can all go out and kill people that are not entertaining or profitable for us since we are all "just animals" too.- jamelt, on 12/10/2007, -5/+3I never heard of social responsibility being part of the law. LOL. 23 years for animals dying? LOL Don't pounds put dogs to sleep everyday? LOL Inhumane? LOL Bombing countless cities in Iraq, bombing Japan was humane, i think?
- r00tus3r, on 12/10/2007, -4/+9Thanks funkedup, I was starting to think I was on a FEMA site. That sentence is insane. They're rapists who get less time than that.
- HamHead, on 12/11/2007, -1/+0FEMA? Nice job Brownie!
- nopointinnames, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3He probably would have been given less time but he lied to federal prosecutors AND failed a drug test when he was on probation. You have to be smarter than that, he deserved what he got.
- zachlac, on 12/10/2007, -2/+4Right on. Anybody other than Vick would have gotten a fine and a warning, maybe a few months in jail. Such crap. Eventually, you must realize that these are dogs, not people. I think he definitely deserved to be punished severely, but this is ridiculous.
- CthulhuDawn, on 12/10/2007, -4/+1***** people. Dogs ftw
- cgjamj, on 12/10/2007, -2/+5I'm from the same area (Tidewater area of Virginia) that Vick is from and the media attention has been crazy. However, I'm pretty shocked at the harshness he's received, as well as the length of his jail sentence. I absolutely do not support what he did. I was extremely disappointed that he was involved in this when it all broke. He also should have owned up to it once it all came out. He should have known they were going to uncover his involvement anyway. Owning up to it from the beginning may have helped him in the long run.
But I'm really shocked at the jail term. In our same local area in 1991, a 15 year old boy was killed by a drunk driver very early on a Saturday morning in my cousin's neighborhood while folder papers for his paper route. He was a freshman at my cousin's high school. The girl who killed him had just graduated from the same school six months earlier and was on an athletic scholarship at a local university. She was coming home from a party around 5 am and was so drunk she had no idea she hit him and dragged him several feet. A neighbor happened to be up and saw it happen outside of his window. The girl pulled into her drive way several houses away and went inside and went to sleep. She was awakened a little later and arrested. She went to trail and got six months in prison. I clearly remember this because I was so shocked about how little of a jail sentence she received. She knowingly drove drunk (her first felony) and then killed someone (her second felony).
So how did Vick get nearly four times the jail sentence as someone else who used bad judgement that resulted in killing a 15 year old kid? Also, like the girl, Vick also had no prior criminal record. However, I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished because he should. I just think this is a bit much. - Steroblo, on 12/11/2007, -1/+2You people are seriously dumb *****. The sentence handed out today was for running an illegal gambling ring, not for dogfighting itself. That's what the state charges are for.
Stop comparing completely irrelevant court cases to Vick's as well. People are sentenced differently for different crimes all the time. Get over it, he got caught doing something illegal and he got justly punished for it.- platypibri, on 12/11/2007, -0/+3And specifically running a gambling ring ACROSS STATE LINES. Most of these months he got are for committing a commerce crime.
- funkthefunk, on 12/10/2007, -3/+8Eh, the sentence given seems reasonable. I mean, he did do something illegal. But rotting in hell seems a bit much. And besides, the US gov doesn't have jurisdiction over that.
- NinjaBoy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3Yet...
- elleanee, on 12/10/2007, -11/+2His sentence should have been life imprisonment...better yet, the death penalty...sentenced to die exactly the way he killed man's best friend. What a total, unadulterated, inhuman, scumbucket! That murderer got off easily.
- SuperDelen, on 12/10/2007, -3/+11Ya some people need to take a serious chill pill and realize there are more important things going on then someone who gets jail time for killing some dogs. I'm sorry, but no one ***** cares.
- jamelt, on 12/10/2007, -3/+2I have to believe that she's not being serious.
- grantk86, on 12/11/2007, -1/+0You need to Harden the ***** Up!
- platypibri, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1I think the guy is human trash, but by definition you can only "murder" human beings. He's not a "murderer" so far as we know.
- objectcode, on 12/10/2007, -4/+2pay no attention to Monster, he just forgot to smoke his dope today. or maybe his dog was hit by a drunk driver.
- lucutus, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1http://www.digg.com/football/teens_get_10_years_fo ...
- cRmtIMe, on 12/11/2007, -2/+1thats *****. if it's legal for people to hunt, then it should be legal for michael vick to kill some dogs. no one cares when dick cheney goes quail hunting or whatever the ***** type hunting he does. either make it legal to kill animals or not. its that simple.
- grantk86, on 12/11/2007, -1/+0Chopper Reid says Harden the ***** Up!
- ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -37/+23Get over it. He's not the first or last person to ever do this. True, as a famous athlete it goes without saying he must be an excellent role model, but cut him some slack, the man didn't murder anyone, didn't rape anyone, didn't buy automatic weapons. It's not enough that he lost his wife, his career, his fortune, his belongings, and 23 months of his life for this is it? You still want him to rot in hell? You need to get over it.
- AcePup, on 12/10/2007, -29/+36Unfortunately this is not long enough. Living in VA, I can say the justice system here is very hard and harsh, but he probably only will serve half of this and that's it.
- Crossbar, on 12/10/2007, -3/+27This was tried in the federal courts, where there is no parole. The most he can take off his sentence is about 3 months for good behavior.
- aliengoods, on 12/10/2007, -1/+15Um, do you realize that these were federal charges, and he'll be in a federal prison? Also, he's still up on state charges.
It did make me think of this.
http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/mi ... - SouthsideIrish, on 12/10/2007, -0/+6He will serve at least 85% of his sentence, plus another couple of months in a halfway house, and I think, 3 year of the worse kind of probation. So, he won't get out until at least Oct. 2009, thus destroying he career as an NFL quarterback.
- deeboe, on 12/10/2007, -30/+77Not even close to long enough!
- SkippyDoorknob, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7What if he was locked in a cell with a pack of angry dogs?
- Ludwig, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3Unfortunately, the whole thing with Pit Bulls is that they were originally bred to be animal aggressive, killing any that show signs of aggression towards humans. That way the worthless pieces of ***** handling them in the pit didn't get mistakenly attacked.
- sovereign3, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1So how long is long enough?
- nicepants, on 12/10/2007, -1/+15Hey, it's 23 months more than OJ...
- GunDownCCL, on 12/11/2007, -0/+3that is sad.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7What if he was locked in a cell with a pack of angry dogs?
- shaka776, on 12/10/2007, -20/+3woof!
- zioxide, on 12/10/2007, -15/+113He had it all and he threw it away. ***** him.
- aliengoods, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7He had to keep his posse happy.
- kirashira, on 12/12/2007, -0/+1He might of potentially threw away his NFL career but he still has A LOT of money.
- daneatdirt, on 12/10/2007, -17/+5In all honesty, I think it'd have been more interesting had they let him continue to play football- I think it'd be a greater punishment trying to watch him play football with everyone hating him.
- ben_nushmut, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2No.
- fred954, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1yeah i agree with u. it will be great motivation.
- captric, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Are you joking me???
- fr0mundacheese, on 12/10/2007, -18/+8That sure is "Bad Newz" for him. CYA L8R
- marvin69, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2WORD!
- cmgriffi, on 12/10/2007, -17/+29bitch deserves all 23 months
- rootnik, on 12/10/2007, -4/+23He still has a state jury trial pending. This is far from over.
- Ob1masterjd26, on 12/10/2007, -8/+116He deserves it, but people have killed people and gotten less, WTF justice system
- davejmathis, on 12/10/2007, -7/+23Paris Hilton got out after a few days for DUI and probation violations and Vick gets 23 months for dog fighting? Don't get me wrong, he deserves it and I love dogs, but DUI is more serious to me. Put Paris in for 23 months.
- Xcel, on 12/11/2007, -2/+3Not just "dog fighting". Did you read the article? He admitted to HELPING with executions of some dogs..
Some were hung, some forcefully drowned.. and other electrocuted. WTF
Hope he gets some ass raping. - xdcc, on 12/11/2007, -0/+2Are you MADD? Hilton was arrested for a blood alcohol content of 0.08%, and she caused no harm to any person or property. A woman of her size and weight could have a BAC 0.08% after a single drink and is hardly a threat to the public. She served a total of 22 days detention which is far beyond what anyone else receives for the same infraction. A corrupt judge sent her back to jail for being a high profile celebrity after she was released by the county sheriff. Michael Vick abused, electrocuted, drowned, hung, shot, forced to fight to the death, and killed in other ways an untold number of dogs.
http://www.duigulag.com/facts.htm
- Xcel, on 12/11/2007, -2/+3Not just "dog fighting". Did you read the article? He admitted to HELPING with executions of some dogs..
- Midvicious, on 12/10/2007, -12/+6Uh, hello... Paris gets a free pass. Know why? Take a guess. It's because she's... Here's a hint, it rhymes with "tight"...
- bitt3n, on 12/10/2007, -2/+7bright?
- saferwaters, on 12/10/2007, -0/+0loose? oh oh, you said RHYMES with tight...nevermind...
- N256, on 12/11/2007, -0/+2I still don't know the word, could someone help me out?
- saturdaysinbed, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1white
- Orderless, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1No, that's not it at all. It rhymes with "bitch".
- hayzeus, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2Mennonite?
- NachoBusiness, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Well, this is the US Attorney's office here. these are career prosecutors and investigators getting paid a decent wage. Over 95% of the time they charge someone with a crime, they convict. Most murder (and other) charges are brought by county-level district attorneys, who are usually understaffed and where starting ADAs get paid under $40,000/year in some cases. Also these guys bosses are up for reelection in many cases, so you end up with politically motivated prosecutions (not all of which are as widely reported as Mike Nifong). Thus you see a lot of incompetence and even corruption in local prosecutions... not so much on the federal level.
- davejmathis, on 12/10/2007, -7/+23Paris Hilton got out after a few days for DUI and probation violations and Vick gets 23 months for dog fighting? Don't get me wrong, he deserves it and I love dogs, but DUI is more serious to me. Put Paris in for 23 months.
- eagles2k3, on 12/10/2007, -24/+14When asked what his new favorite position would be, Vick replied, "doggy-style".
- Marzuk, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7Only Vick will be the receptive partner now.
- PureGuava, on 12/10/2007, -10/+31I'm betting 10-1 odds that there will be a reality show based on him. The basic plot will be inmates vs security guards playing football.
- AntiScurvyLg, on 12/10/2007, -13/+1Uh... ever seen the Longest Yard?
- Traiklin, on 12/10/2007, -0/+14Uh... ever hear of a joke?
- objectcode, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1Uh...
- Traiklin, on 12/10/2007, -0/+14Uh... ever hear of a joke?
- AntiScurvyLg, on 12/10/2007, -13/+1Uh... ever seen the Longest Yard?
- jeepin, on 12/10/2007, -1/+19Just to see some of what he's losing:
http://www.digg.com/celebrity/Buy_Michael_Vick_s_H ...
What a waste. Hope it was worth it.- joot2112, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1I hope the dogs are in heaven wagging their tails about it.
- URnotheonly1, on 12/10/2007, -22/+7This sentence is so ***** wrong on so many levels.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -17/+9I agree. Twenty three months of a man's life, regardless of his race, is too much time spent in jail for only participating in dog fighting. No Humans were harmed, no property was stolen, so I fail to understand the reasoning behind the punishment and the legislation that is responsible for it.
- typicalusername, on 12/10/2007, -7/+4The feds are making an underlying battle for dog fighting. Dog fighting is very popular in the south, and they're just trying to make a point and get all those people worried about when they're coming to clean up the region.
- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -6/+8dog fighting (pitting any animal against any other for that matter) is horrible and cruel. no humans were harmed?
typical asshole thinking only of humans and property. typically american. - Eljefedeath, on 12/10/2007, -4/+5I hope that you are a vegan, if not you are an unbelievable hypocrite. This is clearly an overboard sentence. Vick broke a law and should be punished; but two years? That is over the top. I am complicit in killing pigs, cows and chickens everyday - in some cases they live and die in much worse situations than these dogs. Is the next step to go after anyone who eats meat? It certainly seems that this is the beginning of a PETA slippery slope.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7It's disgusting how people pretend to care about "cute" animals like dogs and cats and get outraged over any perceived mistreatment of them while happily wolfing down steak tartare.
- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -6/+8dog fighting (pitting any animal against any other for that matter) is horrible and cruel. no humans were harmed?
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -12/+3Well it doesn't surprise me to see the Federal Government making attempts to destroy yet another aspect of Black culture, considering the history your government has in mistreating the Black Man throughout the centuries. I find it interesting that you view this attempt to destroy yet more of the culture of the Blacks that you view it as "cleaning up" the region rather than the sort of soft genocide that it actually represents. It's not enough to strip them from their homes, bind them in shackles, and whip them into obedient productivity and then reduce them to wage slaves once the rest of the world began frowning upon the practice. Now, your Federal Government wants to place the freedom of a Man over the life of a Dog. Sickening.
- URnotheonly1, on 12/10/2007, -8/+2I'm going to agree with that
- snatchmstr, on 12/10/2007, -2/+5You had to play the race card
- kjizzle, on 12/10/2007, -2/+4He broke the law, Dr. King: Shut the ***** up. He was a role model for millions of children and as such deserves to be punished. I don't give a ***** about dogs myself, but you know what? That doesn't matter. The majority of people in this kick-ass country feel it's wrong and have decided to make it illegal. They also don't want their children to be looking up to a fraudulent animal abuser.
And if I may, for a moment, touch upon the Vick family as a whole; I go to Virginia Tech and I can testify that Mike was the greatest thing that's happened to this place aside from Coach Beamer in a long time. If anyone wants to see the whole Vick clan succeed, it's me.
That said, the fact that he and his scum bag brother feel like they're entitled to anything and everything, break numerous laws, and besmirch the good name of this institution is upsetting. This is not an attack on the black community, so stop playing the race card, you pompous racist *****.
Do you honestly think Michael Vick is "your brother"? Michael Vick doesn't give a ***** about your ass, or the black community as a whole, because if he did then he'd know that the black community needs positive role models and wouldn't have taken a chance on some stupid ***** like dogfighting.
If I were his parents, and black, I'd lump him in with the likes of O.J. and Tyson. White or black, he doesn't deserve anyone's respect or sympathy. - cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3Thanks for your input Al Sharpton.
"Well it doesn't surprise me to see the Federal Government making attempts to destroy yet another aspect of Black culture."
I didn't know that Dog Fighting was an aspect of Black Culture.
- uziko, on 12/10/2007, -12/+3Thank god there is some intelligence out their. What happened is PETA got fanatical about this then everyone chimed in with them, and now every unintelligent piece of trash, sees that everyone is "outraged at this". And they just join in the retard fest.
Keep in mind that I am somewhat racist against blacks. And I never even knew dog fighting existed before I heard about this. So if anything I am biased to going along with badmouthing vick. But animals are slaughtered every day and people eat their bodies. I just can't express my hatred for the scum that think dog fighting is bad.- URnotheonly1, on 12/10/2007, -5/+2Can't take American justice serious anymore, the systems is a joke
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -3/+2Yeah, those "scum" that care about animals...how scummy of them.
By the way, there are more people ***** about this than you think and most of us laugh at PETA.
This wasn't just about the dogfighting or the killing of the dogs (since they were no longer profitable) or the crappy way they were kept and treated. It's about all of it as a whole. He trained them to kill, he kept them in terrible conditions and he killed them when they were not profitable.
The guy is an asshole that deserves a lot more than 23 months in my opinion. Is that a nias toward his color? I couldn't care less what color he is. An asshole by any other name is still an asshole.
- typicalusername, on 12/10/2007, -7/+4The feds are making an underlying battle for dog fighting. Dog fighting is very popular in the south, and they're just trying to make a point and get all those people worried about when they're coming to clean up the region.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -17/+9I agree. Twenty three months of a man's life, regardless of his race, is too much time spent in jail for only participating in dog fighting. No Humans were harmed, no property was stolen, so I fail to understand the reasoning behind the punishment and the legislation that is responsible for it.
- Jayspring, on 12/10/2007, -6/+10At least there's no time off for good behavior in the Federal system
- HamHead, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2wrong......according to the article on MSNBC he could have his sentence reduced by 3 months if he is a good little prisoner.
- centerblack, on 12/11/2007, -1/+1Good? Why the ***** should we pay to feed and shelter him. He has money and he's not a threat to society. Should have given him a massive fine and probation.
- HamHead, on 12/11/2007, -0/+0First of all learn to read. Second of all don't you mean HAD money?
- centerblack, on 12/11/2007, -1/+1Good? Why the ***** should we pay to feed and shelter him. He has money and he's not a threat to society. Should have given him a massive fine and probation.
- jeepin, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1HamHead (as well as MSNBC) is correct--federal prison sentences require 85% time served before an early release is considered.
- Jayspring, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Well it's still better than most state/county/city detention systems, where the average prisoner serves a mere pittance of their original sentence.
I saw something in the Washington Post that said he'll probably do 20 of the 23 months. So ya, you gents are right...looks like 85%
- Jayspring, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Well it's still better than most state/county/city detention systems, where the average prisoner serves a mere pittance of their original sentence.
- HamHead, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2wrong......according to the article on MSNBC he could have his sentence reduced by 3 months if he is a good little prisoner.
- slashbot, on 12/10/2007, -6/+3423 months? Vick probably won't be coming back to the NFL
- Rotzooi, on 12/10/2007, -6/+19Let's hope so. Dog-torturing assholes need not apply.
But of course, he'll be op Oprah and act all apologetic and the American People will love him once more. - CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -3/+4wasn't coming back anyway.
- hollygolitely, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1What do you mean probably?? NO ONE will touch him now. His life is truly over. That's justice.
- Rotzooi, on 12/10/2007, -6/+19Let's hope so. Dog-torturing assholes need not apply.
- yellowraven, on 12/10/2007, -23/+20Ray Lewis and O.J. Simpson get away with murder and Michael Vick gets 23 months for dogfighting, I'm not quite sure thats a fair punishment.
Sure he should be punished, but c'mon.- CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -5/+1423 months is fair. OJ should have gotten lethal injection.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -14/+1Found innocent by a jury of his peers, and yet he should still be executed? Do you hate the Black Man so much that you'd kill him even though he is guilty of no crime? Shame on you, sir. Shame on you.
- lacronicus, on 12/10/2007, -2/+7and the fact that he was black has WHAT to do with any of this? Not to mention that there was overwhelming evidence against him, AND he was found guilty in civil court by a different jury. He did it, he practically came out and said he did it, he deserved what woudl go along with that.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2gr3yarea is trolling. Trying as hard as possible to turn this into a race issue.
The only real race issue is people playing the race card when they don't get treated the way they think they should be treated.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2gr3yarea is trolling. Trying as hard as possible to turn this into a race issue.
- Traiklin, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Jesse is that you? shouldn't there be some non racist event you should be marching on?
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -6/+1The fact that he is black has everything to do with your desire to see him executed in spite of his acquittal by a jury of his peers who actually got to review all of the "overwhelming" evidence against him. I'll not that you did not sit on the jury and therefore had no opportunity to review the evidence, yet you still have convicted him in the court of your own self-righteousness. I cannot help but speculate that this is because he is a Black Man. I would also like to point out that Criminal and Civil courts have remarkably different standards of evidence, and it's likely that he would have prevailed in civil court if he had not been pilloried in the media for months and years prior.3vp
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Interesting that during interviews the jury in the O.J. Trial believed he was guilty but due to mistakes and poor handling of evidence by the LAPD they had a reasonable doubt.
It's up to you to define "reasonable doubt". I tend to think that if the evidence doesn't prove to me 100% that it was that person, say due to poor handling of some key evidence, that is reasonable doubt. I'm not one for imprisoning someone if there is even a small chance of them being innocent.
That being said, why are you trolling for a race debate? Can you take just a moment to sit back, take a few deep breaths, relax, clear your mind and then, just for a moment, imagine that people don't care what color Vick or O.J. are and instead that they are just fed up with 2 people that have done wrong?
MAYBE they are ***** off because they are criminals.
They may be black criminals but you can strip away the color descriptor and they are still criminals.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Interesting that during interviews the jury in the O.J. Trial believed he was guilty but due to mistakes and poor handling of evidence by the LAPD they had a reasonable doubt.
- CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2OJ Simpson may be a lot of things, but he stopped being black a long time ago. I feel sorry for the actually black folks that look up to OJ. OJ is not a role model and is not a member of your community, no matter how much he may pretend otherwise when his (in reality) lily white ass is on the line.
- lacronicus, on 12/10/2007, -2/+7and the fact that he was black has WHAT to do with any of this? Not to mention that there was overwhelming evidence against him, AND he was found guilty in civil court by a different jury. He did it, he practically came out and said he did it, he deserved what woudl go along with that.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -14/+1Found innocent by a jury of his peers, and yet he should still be executed? Do you hate the Black Man so much that you'd kill him even though he is guilty of no crime? Shame on you, sir. Shame on you.
- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -7/+10I guess since others got away with crime because of hero worshiping football culture one more should? good logic. 23 months is nothing.
- Eljefedeath, on 12/10/2007, -10/+4How pathetic is your life that you think that 23 months of it is nothing? We have placed a mans freedom lower than the life of a dog. I love dogs, I have animal cruelty but this is ridiculous.
- lacronicus, on 12/10/2007, -1/+4so then what? We simply ignore it? what about money, should that be worth less than the mans freedom? what about a car?
- Phendrana, on 12/10/2007, -1/+4This wasn't just a dog. This was an entire organization responsible for killing countless dogs AND personally helping to kill non-aggressive dogs. And need I point out that even if it wasn't already illegal, this would still be morally unacceptable.
- Eljefedeath, on 12/10/2007, -10/+4How pathetic is your life that you think that 23 months of it is nothing? We have placed a mans freedom lower than the life of a dog. I love dogs, I have animal cruelty but this is ridiculous.
- alpinweiss88, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2You know, thinking about this some more... OJ (if he would admit it) could at least argue a crime of passion.. ex-wife broke his heart... dating another man in front of his kids, talking bad about him to his kids, temporary insanity, etc etc. Of course that doesn't justify murder, but there is at least an argument there to be had, a reason that a human being could somewhat understand. I can't think of a SINGLE defense for what Vick did. I hope all those involved with this pay the price as well. After all, he was the big name behind it, but he wasn't the only one involved.
- DavidGX, on 12/11/2007, -2/+1He forced dogs to fight and kill each other. 23 months is nothing compared to what he SHOULD have gotten.
- CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -5/+1423 months is fair. OJ should have gotten lethal injection.
- treypidation, on 12/10/2007, -30/+10i agree with the hanahmontana person... its great that people have feelings for dogs, obviously youre all dog OWNERS... you freaking inhumane pieces of *****... how can you own a being??
/sarcasm
but srsly... your pets didn't ask you to be pets.. they didn't appear on your doorstep requesting milk and cookies... you bought or found or forcibly took those *****... they are essentially slaves.... and I guarantee you, you will always get a different response between which is worse: slavery and death... so put your moralistic preaching to the side.
if someone has to go to jail for this silly garbage i guess 23 months is fine, but people getting all moral about 'its wrong to hurt animals' or some ***** are the same people that lock their pets up everyday... just stfu.- RooX, on 12/10/2007, -3/+15so its safe to say you are a crazy person, right?
- Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -1/+8How's it make you feel to know that some of us (myself included) LOVE MEAT!!! MMmm...tender juicy animal flesh.
- afpunk, on 12/10/2007, -3/+8Dear Asshole,
I have never owned a pet. I have not eaten any meat (knowingly, some restaurants could obviously have cross contamination) since the age of 7 when my parents tried to make me eat a burger....and I threw most of that up. Is that enough of a moral high ground for you?
Vick is a scumbag, and 2 years is pretty light. Hopefully he'll have to serve some additional time in state prison afterwards.- steevacy, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1Pics or it didnt happen.
- govsucks, on 12/10/2007, -2/+9Yeah, cause living in the wild, fighting for food, out in the cold everynight with ticks, fleas and disease and various other parasites is so much better than being enslaved with a huge back yard, toys, plentiful food and medical care. The animal Vick can have the same amount of pity from me he gave those dogs.
- CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -1/+9You are a ***** moron and have somehow learned how to talk our of you ass: a neat trick.
- steevacy, on 12/10/2007, -6/+1At least he can spell and speak proper english.
- uziko, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4That's funny because I understood exactly what he said, are you a foreigner that needs everything to be in perfect english otherwise you don't know what it means? Your lack of understanding indicates that you don't have a firm grasp on the english language. I would use a slang term but it's probably not in your pocket translation guide so I will leave you with something that is universally understood.
*extends middle finger and retracts all four other fingers- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4He's number 1?
- CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2so I can't ***** type. sue me.
- uziko, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4That's funny because I understood exactly what he said, are you a foreigner that needs everything to be in perfect english otherwise you don't know what it means? Your lack of understanding indicates that you don't have a firm grasp on the english language. I would use a slang term but it's probably not in your pocket translation guide so I will leave you with something that is universally understood.
- steevacy, on 12/10/2007, -6/+1At least he can spell and speak proper english.
- uziko, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1Uhh, yea i'm pro vick, but uh your comment is a little wierd, I'm not sure which way to go on this one, i'm torn between a digg up or digg down.
ahh what the hell your not one of the herd followers so, +1 digg from me to you!
- happyfrog, on 12/10/2007, -9/+3It's not THAT breaking..
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -17/+10I question the wisdom of spending the money and other resources necessary to incarcerate Mr. Vick for 23 months for the victimless crime of dogfighting. Surely we have better things to do than take away the freedom of a Human Being, regardless of race, for acts that they have perpetrated upon an animal.
- Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -5/+9You've got to be kidding me. He broke the law. If anything, his prison stay should be paid with his funds. I'm sure he has enough to keep him alive for 23 months in jail. And, as far as him being a human being, you must have a broad definition of the term compared with mine. Human beings have compassion.
- Herostratos, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Marijuana users are also breaking the law.
BTW, how much compassion do you have for Vick?
Go join FEMA you fanatici!
- Herostratos, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Marijuana users are also breaking the law.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -9/+4Then perhaps my friend, you should demonstrate a bit of that Compassion of which you speak so flippantly towards your fellow man, Michael Vick. Your bloodthirsty desire to see this man behind bars brings into question your own sense of compassion and fairness. Has this man harmed you? Has this man harmed any Person that you know of? No, he has not, save on the gridiron. His only "crime" was perpetrated against an Animal and is only a "crime" due to your Federal Government's institutional hatred of the Black Man and his Culture. Because he has harmed an animal, you and your Government feel it necessary to strip him of his freedom and submit him to sodomy for almost two years of his life. Perhaps you should look into the mirror and come to grips with the monstrosity that stares back at you.
- Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5They've imprisoned whiteys who've also been cruel to animals. It has nothing to do with the Black Man's culture. It has everything to do with the letter of the Law. There are laws regarding cruelty to animals. Had Vick been doing animal sacrifice that his religion requires, then there are exceptions. This was an illegal dogfighting ring. It was for money and entertainment. And, as far as this being "Black Man's Culture", I know plenty of black folks who would disagree with doing this.
- cdahlkvist, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Let me tell you how this "man" has affected me.
I help run an animal rescue group in the midwest. We take injured, mistreated, abused animals from all over the country that are in varying conditions and get them medical attention if needed, find them homes and sadly, sometimes, must have them put down.
We have taken some of these dogs that Vick and various others have abused. We have reintroduced many of them back into homes. The aggression can often be reversed. Unfortunately what usually cannot be reversed is the physical and psychological condition of these animals. They will no longer strike out and fight but instead become depressed and timid. They are in a state of confusion almost constantly from all the abuse. - captric, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Why DOES God hate black people so much?
- bjs3171, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3victimless? AN animal? ***** both you. If "black man's culture" is dog fighting, that is ***** pathetic, and really shouldn't be advertised. Anyone who takes part in such an activity simply perpetuates any stereotype held against the black race.
- Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2wait...I hope you aren't lumping me in with this moron who thinks that it's our bloodthirsty desire to see Vick put behind bars.
- marvin69, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3So is shooting other "Blacks" part of black culture?
Blacks almost exclusively kill other blacks so therefore they must be racist right? - gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -2/+0Black on Black violence is clearly the end result of centuries of oppression and exploitation by the Federal Government.
- Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -5/+9You've got to be kidding me. He broke the law. If anything, his prison stay should be paid with his funds. I'm sure he has enough to keep him alive for 23 months in jail. And, as far as him being a human being, you must have a broad definition of the term compared with mine. Human beings have compassion.
- Frostman3D, on 12/10/2007, -19/+32That's way too short. I think he should do AT LEAST 5 YEARS, and be banned from the NFL for life.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -15/+9What an excellent idea. Let's put a Man in jail for at least five years at enormous cost even though he's never harmed his fellow man, but has only harmed animals. What an indefensible position for anyone who is not a pure vegan.
- slwrochild, on 12/10/2007, -4/+7Dude I hate to break it to you, but he broke a law, doesn't take murder to get you in prison.
- Eljefedeath, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Unfortunately.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1He broke a racist law decreed by a racist legislature hell-bent on destroying Black Culture. I'm sorry, but I don't feel that transgression should cost him 23 months of his life and many tens of thousands of my tax dollars that will be spend feeding, housing, and clothing him.
- Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3gr3yarea is a troll. He joined digg today, and has only commented on the Michael Vick story, and has done so in a trollish manner. Pay no attention to this bigot.
- Traiklin, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1so then, what is your stance on what the MP/RIAA is proposing? Longer sentences in jail (which is much longer then what Vick is getting) having to pay fines out the ass of an unreasonable amount.
They never harmed their fellow man, they killed no animals for fun or profit, they harmed no one and nothing, yet they get prison sentences on par with people who did - Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -4/+5gr3yarea is a troll. He joined digg today, and has only commented on the Michael Vick story, and has done so in a trollish manner. Pay no attention to this bigot.
- DavidGX, on 12/11/2007, -0/+2He FORCED DOGS to FIGHT and KILL each other. Just because you're a heartless son of a bitch doesn't mean everyone is.
- hollygolitely, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1The argument that logically follows is that if you harm another living thing, what's to stop you from harming another human being, and therefore you're a dangerous individual.
But again, NO ONE in the NFL will touch him, he will make no money and he has no other marketable skills so his life is over.
- slwrochild, on 12/10/2007, -4/+7Dude I hate to break it to you, but he broke a law, doesn't take murder to get you in prison.
- Eljefedeath, on 12/10/2007, -8/+6Then I am crazy thankful you don't run our government. The lack of value placed on a mans freedom by most of you is highly disturbing. Freedom should only be taken in the most extreme circumstances.
- ninjacob, on 12/10/2007, -3/+6You're just an animal. Lets put you on a rape stand and hold your head underwater, *****.
- Eljefedeath, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3You are pretty tough on the Internet. Rape fantasies aside, as soon as animals develop the capacity for imagination, tool use, opposable thumbs, the ability to use and learn language and critical thinking then we should let them vote and give them legal status equal to humans. Until then, I will gladly make the distinction between man and beast.
- SouthsideIrish, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1There are other forms of punishment besides jailing someone. As a Libertarian I want to victims of the crime to pay restitution. If my kid was killed by a drunk driver I would rather see the person stay out of jail and have to pay, financially for what he did. Give me 10%-20% of what you make for the rest of your life, or until you paid me a certain amount.
- ninjacob, on 12/10/2007, -3/+6You're just an animal. Lets put you on a rape stand and hold your head underwater, *****.
- lacronicus, on 12/10/2007, -4/+5So what, if someone doesnt hurt another person they shouldnt go to jail? yes, that makes sense. so the person who steals your car shouldnt go to jail? or the person that burns your house down shouldnt? or what about rape? come on, you break the law, no matter what it is, you face the consequences. Dont like the law? ge in office and change it, otherwise shut up about a corrupt system.
- sampson123, on 12/10/2007, -2/+5You don't consider rape to be hurting someone?
- masterspeaks, on 12/10/2007, -3/+2Guy. Those are all crimes against humans. Vick killed some dogs that were his own property. I hope that you are a vegan, if not you are an unbelievable hypocrite. Vick broke a law and should be punished; but two years? That is over the top. I am complicit in killing pigs, cows and chickens everyday - in some cases they live and die in much worse situations than these dogs. Is the next step to go after anyone who eats meat?
- SouthsideIrish, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Never heard of restitution? System is set up so government profits, it is most definitely not set up where victims are compensated. He should be paying massive fines to charities that deal with animal abuse.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -15/+9What an excellent idea. Let's put a Man in jail for at least five years at enormous cost even though he's never harmed his fellow man, but has only harmed animals. What an indefensible position for anyone who is not a pure vegan.
- evilic0n, on 12/10/2007, -14/+5Woof.
Translation:
Good - cmuwriter, on 12/10/2007, -10/+4Dugg because the headline made me think that Vick was the one fighting the dogs.
- texasaggie11, on 12/10/2007, -5/+19Federal sentences require the criminal to serve 85% of the prison term..
- ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -21/+15Enough is enough. You people get all worked up about ***** like this... let's ***** that sick bastard's life up! YEAH! He didn't murder anyone, he didn't rape anyone, he made a huge mistake, I'm not downplaying that, but come on guys, how far is this bandwagon 'hate vick' thing going to last? He's lost EVERYTHING and you still see it fit he lose more? Think about it...
- slashbot, on 12/10/2007, -2/+15I agree. What ever happened to paying your debt to society and forgiveness.
I'm not saying he should be forgiven now, but to damn him for eternity, is just a bit harsh. I don't agree with this lock-him-up-and-throw-away-the-key bandwagon mentality here. He deserves the jail time he got and will receive yet, but if you read some comments here, you would think they are calling for the death penalty. I have a pet cat and consider what he did to be terrible, but let's be reasonable here.- Wingman007, on 12/10/2007, -8/+3Cat owner? GTFO.
Seriously, though, the justice system doesn't reach a point mid-trial where the judge goes, "Okay, sonny, I think you've had enough. Go on home." Vick dug his own grave and deserves whatever he gets.- slashbot, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3My family owns a dog, and until I moved out for college etc. she was my best pet friend. Now I could only take the family cat with me for company. The family wouldn't let me take the dog!!
- ravamp3, on 12/10/2007, -2/+6Finally some sense! Thank you! It's not that we love him or what he did! Simply, use your rationale here...
- Wingman007, on 12/10/2007, -8/+3Cat owner? GTFO.
- Ellipsys, on 12/10/2007, -6/+8I'd be saying the same thing about a real actual rapist (not statutory, not crying rape because a boy broke up with a girl, not any of the other bogus sex offenses out there). Murder is situational of course. Maybe someone killed a burglar in self defense. Maybe some guy killed his girlfriend's rapist. Those things don't make you a horrible person, despite the fact they're illegal. However, torturing and killing animals for fun - there is simply no justification for that. Ever. Its compounded by the fact that this man had millions of dollars, and a much better life then his education would have posed him for, and he still proved a degenerate. He deserves his sentence, and he deserves to lose it all.
- CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3"Murder is situational of course. Maybe someone killed a burglar in self defense"
Self defense isn't murder, that's why it's called self defense. - CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3someone actually disagrees with this statement: "Self defense isn't murder, that's why it's called self defense."? whoever you are, you are an asshole.
- centerblack, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Actually at least two people had to disagree with that statement cause you were at -1, and they're both assholes.
- centerblack, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1I don't see why being poor or rich should have an effect on sentencing.
My only other comment is this... Dog fighting used to be completely legal in this country, there are many other places in the world where it still is legal. It wasn't until they linked dog fighting to organized crime that law enforcement started trying to crack down on it. The law making interstate dog fighting a felony wasn't even passed until 2007.
Sentencing Vick to jail isn't going to stop dog fighting. The activity will continue whether you condone it or not. By banning dog fighting, you just create a black market where you can't hope to have any control over conditions or medical care for the animals.
- CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3"Murder is situational of course. Maybe someone killed a burglar in self defense"
- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -9/+3oh no, poor millionaire's life is messed up, watch the world shed tears for another example of american excess!
- Starflyer59, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Who let Canada on the Internet?
- Eljefedeath, on 12/10/2007, -1/+6Why do you hate America? Do you really contend that America is the only place dog fighting takes place? Or are you mad because Vick made more money than you? What message are you trying to convey with that statement?
- CraigJ, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5Thought about it. Still agree with it. However there is a lack of proportion here. Murders sometimes get lighter sentences or get off. The answer is not to give Michael Vick a lighter sentence, rather, to give the murderers and rapists the sentences they deserve. IMO that would be hanging in a public square, but I'll settle for life in prison.
- slashbot, on 12/10/2007, -2/+15I agree. What ever happened to paying your debt to society and forgiveness.
- osirislink, on 12/10/2007, -14/+29Deserves more than 23 months imo.
- mnx12, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2Yeah. He deserves something more like 23 YEARS
- centerblack, on 12/11/2007, -1/+223 hours.
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1I agree this piece of ***** has no place in society. If you can torture animals its only a very small step before you are torturing humans. In a way it would be harder to torture animals as they have a certain amount of innocence in comparison to people.
- centerblack, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1... fail
- mnx12, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2Yeah. He deserves something more like 23 YEARS
- blackmage439, on 12/10/2007, -10/+22I'm a dog lover, and this disgusts me to no end, especially for the fact that he lied about it. I hope this conviction ruins this heartless asshole's career for good, and he'll have to resort to living on the streets, only to be chewed up by the very same dogs he tortured. (I realize they've all been euthanised; it's just wishful thinking.)
- pandaboy99, on 12/10/2007, -7/+2You would take as much pleasure as seeing a man being chewed up and tortured as Michael Vick would dogs.... doesnt that put you the same level as him?
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3No it does not, Michael Vick made a decision and earned it where as the animals didn't do anything to anyone to warrant being tortured and abused.
- pandaboy99, on 12/11/2007, -0/+0Then your saying your in favor of torture if someone deserves it... human rights ftw!
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3No it does not, Michael Vick made a decision and earned it where as the animals didn't do anything to anyone to warrant being tortured and abused.
- jamelt, on 12/10/2007, -4/+3Why not be a human lover?
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Why not love and respect ALL forms of life?
- Herostratos, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Shall I respect the parasite?
- joot2112, on 12/11/2007, -0/+2I respect parasites more than Michael Vick! There is no expectation for a parasite to do anything but what it needs to do to survive and multiply. They are pretty adept at it, actually! But Vick failed the expectation as a human to have any empathy.
- Herostratos, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Shall I respect the parasite?
- joot2112, on 12/11/2007, -0/+2I might be a human lover if it weren't for pieces of ***** humans like Michael Vick.
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Why not love and respect ALL forms of life?
- nopointinnames, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Only 1 of his dogs were euthanized, the rest were sent to a dog sanctuary and families. He had to pay 1 million to pay for their support.
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2/agreed
- pandaboy99, on 12/10/2007, -7/+2You would take as much pleasure as seeing a man being chewed up and tortured as Michael Vick would dogs.... doesnt that put you the same level as him?
- kingjaydub, on 12/10/2007, -11/+20what a sick *****. he deserves way more time in prison.
killing for sport is sick, especially when you're killing man's best friend.- jamelt, on 12/10/2007, -4/+3Get a life.
- masterspeaks, on 12/10/2007, -4/+3So you have no problems, when people go hunting deer and or go fishing. So long as dogs don't get hurt?
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3Its not the "killing" of an animal that is an issue here, killing animals for food/clothing etc is acceptable and when people hunt they kill the animal quickly and humanely, they don't torture the animal for months on end to make it mean, they dont rip its teeth out of its head when its still living and then throw it to their killer animals for practice, etc...
There is a HUGE difference between killing animals and torturing them. - c0n724ll10n, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1What about hunting/fishing for sport? It's not like every hunter hunts to eat. Sure, Vick's case is a lot more brutal, but in the end hunting is still killing. Vick deserves punishment but some of you are acting like dogfighting is worse than killing humans.
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3Its not the "killing" of an animal that is an issue here, killing animals for food/clothing etc is acceptable and when people hunt they kill the animal quickly and humanely, they don't torture the animal for months on end to make it mean, they dont rip its teeth out of its head when its still living and then throw it to their killer animals for practice, etc...
- masscrazy, on 12/10/2007, -8/+2"helping to kill pit bulls that did not fight aggressively"
Was he trying to use them as scapegoats? - tfox2k1, on 12/10/2007, -7/+73Vick enters prison as a star quarterback and leaves prison as a hot wide receiver.
- snatchmstr, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2That was good for a laugh. Thanks
- funkthefunk, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4Thank God he's not a tight end.
- endustry, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Chris Berman will have to come up with a new Bermanism for him when he gets out. Any ideas?
- fate3, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Michael 'Sure Can Take A' Vick?
- hollygolitely, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1alright, way to keep it light. right on.
- shredomatic, on 12/10/2007, -8/+3It's not breaking you *****, it's already broke.
- Andy.D, on 12/10/2007, -8/+11I'm truly surprised he got more than 12 months. Wow.
- jamelt, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Me too.
- BlvdKing, on 12/10/2007, -13/+10I think he should have been banned from the NFL for life and given a huge fine. However, 23 months in jail seems stiff considering he didn't murder any people. We need to reprioritize the sentencing in our justice system.
- greaseddeafguy, on 12/10/2007, -10/+1023 months seem like a short period of time to lock up such a sick, sadistic criminal.
- loafy929, on 12/10/2007, -5/+5I agree. Just because he's killing dogs and not people doesn't make him any more sane or any less worthy of a longer sentence. Killing an innocent dog, in my opinion, is worse. At least some people who get murdered actually deserve it.
- osbjmg, on 12/10/2007, -4/+2Good point.
- sat0shi, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5"Killing an innocent dog, in my opinion, is worse (than killing some types of people)."
You people scare the ***** out of me. - gd1z, on 12/11/2007, -1/+1It's just a dog.
- loafy929, on 12/10/2007, -5/+5I agree. Just because he's killing dogs and not people doesn't make him any more sane or any less worthy of a longer sentence. Killing an innocent dog, in my opinion, is worse. At least some people who get murdered actually deserve it.
- greaseddeafguy, on 12/10/2007, -10/+1023 months seem like a short period of time to lock up such a sick, sadistic criminal.
- bonds, on 12/10/2007, -11/+5A regular citizen would have gotten the maximum fine and term of imprisonment. This country sucks ass.
- slashbot, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7Federal sentencing guidelines were 18 months to 2 years.
I doubt it- bonds, on 12/10/2007, -1/+4In cases like this, are federal penalties used, or do they use the state penalties? Some state penalties carry a maximum imprisonment of 10 years.
- slashbot, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3He is being tried at the state level too
- lacronicus, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3state penalites have yet to be decided, its all federal till april
- bonds, on 12/10/2007, -1/+4In cases like this, are federal penalties used, or do they use the state penalties? Some state penalties carry a maximum imprisonment of 10 years.
- Number23, on 12/10/2007, -5/+5No, it's just you that sucks ass.
He got more than the recommended sentence and more than his co-defendants. If anything, his celeb status (like Martha Stewart) may have contributed to a longer sentence.- bonds, on 12/10/2007, -4/+3No need to insult me. Your profile says you're 41, might be time to grow up a bit.
- Number23, on 12/10/2007, -3/+5Your profile say’s you’re 27, it might be time to develop some reading comprehension.
- bonds, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3Feel free to point out my oversight, and if valid, I would be delighted to admit my error in judgement regarding my post.
- bonds, on 12/10/2007, -4/+3No need to insult me. Your profile says you're 41, might be time to grow up a bit.
- slashbot, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7Federal sentencing guidelines were 18 months to 2 years.
- savethemooses, on 12/10/2007, -14/+4Vickalicious
Makin' puppies act real vicious
And if they ain't malicious
He'll drown 'em with the fishes
Vickalicious- caboose20, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3FAIL!!! of epic proportions
- funkthefunk, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1I thought it was funny.
- Ob1masterjd26, on 12/10/2007, -5/+3Wait, so do comments disappear? hannahmontana's comment is completely gone, I wanted to see how far down it could go
- RpgActioN, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3I just get an error message when I try to view the post I made in that tree. Odd.
- kinseyincanada, on 12/10/2007, -6/+11i dont know what i hate more, Vick or the use of BREAKING in a title.
- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -7/+11I am amazed at how many people will take the time to comment negatively about the sentence. he wasn't a hero, he played football. he was no role model, he played football.
vick deserved worse, he was an eccentric on an ego trip.- Robbothehood, on 12/11/2007, -0/+0He could have been a role model though, and some people have just imprinted on him I guess. There are some great role models in sport.
- yotomote, on 12/10/2007, -14/+7THEY ARE JUST DOGS FFS
we "kill" thousands of cows every day to eat them, if you think that is different you my friend have double standards.- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -4/+7they're killed for food. not entertainment.
- govsucks, on 12/10/2007, -7/+5Yeah, we starve cows to make them mean. Then we electrocute them and beat them. You sir are a idiot.
- masterspeaks, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3So what justifies our murder of cows or chickens. It is entirely possible to live without eating any products from animals. Aren't you merely supporting murderers who beat cows and electrocute chickens to death so you can enjoy their tasty meat? Get your head out of your ass.
- notlenny2, on 12/11/2007, -1/+3I dont know any cows who guard my house, greet me at the door, warm me up when my electric blanket breaks, and have a loyalty beyond that of any human capability even when i yell at him for chewing up a digital camera. I know it sounds terrible but I've never met a dog I wished harm upon. The same cannot be said of people.
- bmc31190, on 12/11/2007, -1/+1or cows.
- uziko, on 12/10/2007, -11/+5What happened is PETA got fanatical about this then everyone chimed in with them, and now every unintelligent piece of trash, sees that everyone is "outraged at this". And they just join in the retard fest.
Keep in mind that I am somewhat racist against blacks. And I never even knew dog fighting existed before I heard about this. So if anything I am biased to going along with badmouthing vick. But animals are slaughtered every day and people eat their bodies. I just can't express my hatred for the scum that think dog fighting is bad.- hayzeus, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2I think it's awesome that you preface this by acknowledging that you are an ignorant *****. I applaud your courage, Sir. Well, played, well played...
- Gryffydd, on 12/10/2007, -5/+10I think he should spend those 23 months in a cell with angry pitbulls. Oh, and he should get rubbed down with beef every morning.
- govsucks, on 12/10/2007, -4/+11This asshole should have been fired the day he flipped off his fans. Oh and to the people defending him, well he showed you what he thinks about you pee ons the day he flipped you off.
- merdiesel, on 12/10/2007, -13/+10He deserves 5 years... ***** scumbag, I hope he rots.
- nova9, on 12/10/2007, -6/+8you're a dumb *****. it's a pitt bull, not a human.
- Bdog2g2, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2My advice to you. You better not get lost in China, Indonesia, or several other countries that violate "Human Rights". I mean after all you're only a human, what does that mean? In several of those places, your nationality will play to your disadvantage.
In many of those countries you aren't worth your wait in *****. - merdiesel, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Coming from the same guy who said that all pitt bulls should be exterminated... Your a ***** piece of *****. Go choke on something.
And to those digging me down, why don't you watch a video of some of the kind of ***** Mike Vick did. Then tell me his sentencing is fair. - Robbothehood, on 12/11/2007, -1/+0What value does a human life have over a dog's?
- Bdog2g2, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2My advice to you. You better not get lost in China, Indonesia, or several other countries that violate "Human Rights". I mean after all you're only a human, what does that mean? In several of those places, your nationality will play to your disadvantage.
- nova9, on 12/10/2007, -6/+8you're a dumb *****. it's a pitt bull, not a human.
- URnotheonly1, on 12/10/2007, -9/+6This is the Animal rights groups sacrifice this black man to try and validate their legal position. This sentence is unconstitutional and will not stand up to appeal, it should go all the way to the SC.
- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -2/+4what a joker^
- idiggxbox, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1In what world is it ok to torture any living thing you sick *****. Yeah it is uncontitutional they should have fed him to the monsters he created, THAT would be justice.
- bingobongony, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Seriously...do you want to bet on that? Bet with your life that this will not stand up on appeal. But be prepared to have to kill yourself when it does.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -11/+2If Michael Vick gets 23 months for arranging dog fights, how long should your Vince McMahon be locked away for due to his arranging of fights between Men under the auspices of the WWF/WWE? Do you also agree that Joe Rogan should face some time in gaol for his participation in bloody UFC bouts?
- loafy929, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4I don't know much about the McMahon and Rogan issues, but it's very different with animals (I think). The dogs being killed were innocent, and had no choice in the matter. I'm assuming the men involved in both of the incidents you refer to DID have a choice in the matter. I'm sure they also gained something financially from participating in those events.
- govsucks, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5Man, that shows how stupid the people who support this thug really are. Men get into the ring of their own free will and have medics standing by to hel in case something goes wrong along with a ref to watch for submisson and somehow you think that equals starving a animal, fighting them to the death and killing them if they dont perform. I can only hope that the people who defend vick end up under the heel of someone just like him someday.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -2/+0You think a man with any other options open to him would willingly get into a wrestling, boxing, or other fighting ring where he might risk the chance of injury or death? If you do, you're a fool. The men who fight and sometimes die in the boxing ring are just as helpless as any dog put into a dog fight.
- Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3My old roommate belonged to a smaller UFC style league. He didn't do it because he had no other options. He did it to practice his Jiu Jutsu training, and because he loved doing it. The men who fight do it because it's a choice they make. A lot of the time, they do it because of the rewards.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -2/+0Assuming your little personal anecdote is correct, I wonder what happened to your friend that drove him to think that beating other men into bloody pulps would be good fun. What sort of man finds a reward in violence against his other man? Why do you associate with monstrous sociopaths?
- Kronos6948, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3gr3yarea is a troll. He joined digg today, and has only commented on the Michael Vick story, and has done so in a trollish manner. Pay no attention to this bigot.
- gr3yarea, on 12/10/2007, -2/+0Your debating skills are impressive. When countered with conflicting points and opinions you result to labelling me as a troll and exhorting others to ignore me by making pointless observations regarding my membership status and posting history. It makes sense that if I joined only recently, I would not have commented on a great number of articles, does it not? That's ok, it's a common response, when faced with facts that we are uncomfortable with, to attempt to ignore them. I don't blame you, you're just being true to your nature.
- hayzeus, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Professional wrestling is staged, genius - but thanks for playing.
- drforster15, on 12/10/2007, -11/+6this is some bull. other nfl players get the punishment of a 2 or 3 game suspension for beating their wive's. im pretty sure abusing your wife is more severe than hurting or killing an animal. yeah he deserves jail time, but 23 months?
***** that *****- Ob1masterjd26, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Your a ridiculous SOB, I'm gonna find where you live!
- drforster15, on 12/10/2007, -0/+0your a real sick sadistic *****.
got have mercy on your soul!
- drforster15, on 12/10/2007, -0/+0your a real sick sadistic *****.
- Ob1masterjd26, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Your a ridiculous SOB, I'm gonna find where you live!
- whiteninja, on 12/10/2007, -14/+26I agree what Vick did is terrible, but I just can't comprehend how all of these people can show such outrage and passion about dogs being killed when there are much more important things going on in the world.
- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -6/+4I can't believe you'd take the time to write that ^. it is important because it shows a step in the right direction when it comes to treating celebrities and athletes differently than regular people. which is one of the main problems in NA today, and can be argued as one of the reasons why "more important things going on in the world" are being ignored.
- blackinthmiddle, on 12/10/2007, -2/+6Fine, it's great that he's getting his due. However, I have to agree with whiteninja. The venom I see from you guys (none of whom are perfect yourselves) shocked me, quite frankly. Vick has done everything you'd want a convicted person to do. He's kept his mouth shut. He's had a somber tone, realizing the error of his ways. He's turned himself in early. Why don't we all just lay low on this and let him serve his time. How do any of you come off any better wishing someone burn in hell, as I've read on this forum?
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Matthew 7:1,2 - whiteninja, on 12/10/2007, -3/+5No, I'm talking about the comments where people are talking as if this is the worst crime ever committed, and saying he needs to spend more time in jail. I'm sorry but two years for what he was doing is plenty. Why do people care so much about Mike Vick anyway? He wasn't even good.
- ganymede2010, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2If this was Payton Manning. Probation. Black Athelete's have come full circle. There's so many of them, with so much sucsess, that's they've created allot of resentment. So people love to see them fall.
- bingobongony, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Well, perhaps that is because Peyton MAnning is not a peice of *****. (Like you and Michael Vick.) so your hypothetical scenario ois meaningless.
The fact that you try to defend what Vick did is yet another piece of eviecnec that you are a disgrace to black people everywhere. For the good of race relations, NEVER SPEAK AGAIN. In fact, just kill yuourself. The way you act, yuou will eventaully get kiled i a gang shooting anyway. Save your rivals the trouble. Your life is WROTHELSS and always will be.
- bingobongony, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Well, perhaps that is because Peyton MAnning is not a peice of *****. (Like you and Michael Vick.) so your hypothetical scenario ois meaningless.
- ganymede2010, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2If this was Payton Manning. Probation. Black Athelete's have come full circle. There's so many of them, with so much sucsess, that's they've created allot of resentment. So people love to see them fall.
- blackinthmiddle, on 12/10/2007, -2/+6Fine, it's great that he's getting his due. However, I have to agree with whiteninja. The venom I see from you guys (none of whom are perfect yourselves) shocked me, quite frankly. Vick has done everything you'd want a convicted person to do. He's kept his mouth shut. He's had a somber tone, realizing the error of his ways. He's turned himself in early. Why don't we all just lay low on this and let him serve his time. How do any of you come off any better wishing someone burn in hell, as I've read on this forum?
- stilla, on 12/10/2007, -4/+2There is NOTHING more important in this world than the health and well-being of all living things. Call me a tree-hugger if you want. This is not nearly enough jail time. I hope this guy gets gang raped in prison with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire. I apologize to those of you who think the "war on terror" is more important than this. Wake up people! You guys have your own problems to deal with. "GOOD MORNING INMATES. PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW CUM-CATCHER: MICHAEL VICK. LOL
- sat0shi, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4"There is NOTHING more important in this world than the health and well-being of all living things."
"I hope this guy gets gang raped in prison with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire."
Wow, nice juxtaposition.- centerblack, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1lol...
- sat0shi, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4"There is NOTHING more important in this world than the health and well-being of all living things."
- CokeOps, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Of course there are bigger things going. There are always bigger things going on. Does that mean we should be apathetic towards everything else? That's like stating no one should care about the homeless and hungry in the US because there are a lot more homeless and hungry and Africa.
- aks123, on 12/11/2007, -0/+2Who said that you can only care about one thing at a time?
- Kokichi, on 12/11/2007, -1/+3I can't believe whiteninja is spending time on Digg instead of helping fight world poverty.
See what I did there? - Robbothehood, on 12/11/2007, -0/+0You said it, I care because what he did is terrible. Not the most terrible thing in the world, but I've worked most of the kinks out of my memory so I am now able recall the other things that I should care about.
- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -6/+4I can't believe you'd take the time to write that ^. it is important because it shows a step in the right direction when it comes to treating celebrities and athletes differently than regular people. which is one of the main problems in NA today, and can be argued as one of the reasons why "more important things going on in the world" are being ignored.
- loafy929, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2That's it?
- nova9, on 12/10/2007, -5/+5Pitt bulls should be exterminated. Also, some human-murders gets less than what Vick did to dogs. This is a very harsh sentence. Stupid fuking bias, ppl squish bugs and fight ***** roaches and mantis's, how about jailing them too??
- hollygolitely, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Pit bulls are actually very sweet dogs and loving by nature, its just when people get involved, especially ones that have no idea what they;re doing, things go wrong.
- trer, on 12/10/2007, -2/+7Vincent Chin's killers, Ronald Ebens and Michael Nitz were convicted and sentenced to 3 years probation and $3000 fine. A Federal Civil Rights judgment against the two was later overturned by a Federal Appeals court in 1986 so both men were not even punished. Michael Vick is getting 23 months for bankrolling a dog fighting operation. Basically, our Federal Court system is saying that dogs are worth more than Chinese Americans in this country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Chin- robfis, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3totally unrelated story from 1982...good point?
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