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- obliviousfool, on 11/22/2008, -0/+56Yeah, a playoff system would turn NCAA football into the NFL in the same way that it has made NCAA basketball *exactly* like the NBA. Like, not at all.
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -4/+42Actually this happens to be the only thing I agree with Obama on at the moment. Screw the AP and get rid of the BCS, college football needs a playoff system.
- doublefelix, on 11/22/2008, -0/+27I think this AP writer lacks the sense of humor necessary to have discerned that this statement during the 60-minutes interview wasn't a serious agenda proposal by Obama but that he was just, in fact, mirroring the will of the people - a concept that has been lost on most of us in the last 8 years.
- donkeyshow, on 11/22/2008, -0/+25College football fans have been clamoring for a playoff for years. This guy is a D-Bag.
- rdhogan7713, on 11/22/2008, -5/+30"...vowed to turn college football into the NFL." What wrong with wanting to turn college football into the most successful and powerful sports league in the world?
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -1/+17And just think, we're 2 weeks away from 3 or 4 one loss teams getting "picked" to go to the national championship. Unless Texas Tech and Bama win out, the controversy returns, the playoff people (myself included) will get up in arms, and we'll have to watch more AP writers try to defend how "every game matters" instead of the reality of the situation: they don't want to lose their power of deciding who plays in the big game.
- iNoles, on 11/22/2008, -2/+16I would like a 16 teams playoffs. Too bad, I can't see that is happening.
- jmoh, on 11/22/2008, -0/+14This guy is terribly incoherent, and his argument just plain sucks.
- airwalkery2k, on 11/22/2008, -1/+14That's change I can believe in.
- MixMastaKooz, on 11/22/2008, -0/+11I like how in the "60 Minutes" interview when they asked the President-Elect about this: Michelle rolled her eyes, and shifted away as if a can of worms had opened up while Obama sat forward and was very assertive in his mannerisms and answer. You can tell he's passionate about sports: especially, football and basketball. I think the BCS is in trouble, and it's about time!
- Klak, on 11/22/2008, -1/+10there are too many soccer leagues for any 1 to be bigger than the nfl
- RealDealRick, on 11/22/2008, -1/+8No more "theoretical" champions.
- bdfariello, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7Funny, seems to me that the last two years London hosted an NFL game, the place was packed.
- GutterBumber, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7Unfortunately for both of you, I don't digg on the "chuckle system".
- psteve4, on 11/22/2008, -1/+8I think Obama's comment was a little tongue in cheek but it would be cool if he put this in motion somehow without wasting too much government time on it. I say keep the ranking system but shave off a few games in the regular season and use the big bowls as your semifinal games and rotate which ones will be a semifinal game each year. These AP guys are ridiculous when they try to defend the BCS like this because when they did not like the outcome in 2003 they created another championship to give to USC.
- HouseofEl, on 11/22/2008, -1/+8Do you take everything you hear seriously? Ya hear that sound? That's the sound of a joke passing over your head at 40,000ft.
- SRSco, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6That's because no NFL stadiums seat 105,000 people. Unless the Lions want to play in the Big House a little west of Detroit, its just not logistically possible to seat that many people. Wait, who would want to watch the Lions play?
- RcHer, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6USA! USA!
- swik, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6Nobody who doesn't profit from the current system likes it.
- MixMastaKooz, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5Yea, but you can tell he's passionate about sports: you saw how Michelle reacted to the question. It was if a can of worms had been opened. She sat back and Obama moved forward in an assertive fashion. He has bigger fish to fry, but when he has the time: the BCS is in trouble.
- rockstar1o9, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5That'd be great for fans but you gotta realize these kids are still students and adding a potential 4 extra high-intensity games at the end of the season would be overkill.
First of all as college students they have final exams during this time and at least some of the non-superstars (which make up a majority of the team) are there to get an education.
Secondly, a number of the collegiate superstars have NFL aspirations and each extra game means that much greater chance for injury. Football is already a violent sport and season/career-ending injuries happen on a regular basis against creampuff I-AA teams so a 4 game gauntlet at the end of an already grueling season against 4 of the top teams in the country is just asking for trouble. Can you really ask a kid, who's already getting shafted by the NCAA because he's playing for nothing (despite bringing in millions), to put his health and dreams of a big payday on the line for a couple of extra games? - Samg85, on 11/22/2008, -0/+5Uhhmm, the NFL takes in more revenue and attendance than the English Premier league. The NFL is the biggest sports league in the world, but I still love soccer.
- JerichoKS, on 11/22/2008, -1/+6There should be a playoff system in college football. It's really ridiculous that the BCS is holding it up.
- mrfizzle, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4Lower ticket prices.
- heystoopid, on 11/22/2008, -1/+5Self wanking sports writer is grasping a straws blowing in the almighty winds of change whilst head is stuffed up his posterior .
- Jeepinator, on 11/22/2008, -1/+5Keep the BCS System. Go to the Bowls we currently have. Take the winners of the Bowls and put them in the playoffs starting the next week. Will extend the season by one week and everyone wins, except the losing teams.
- jawni, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4if the #7 and #8 beat out the #1 and #2 then they deserve be there anyways.
- 10scott10, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4government intervention has always shaped college football.
did you know that over 100 yeras ago, teddy roosevelt saved football by having them the forward pass and implementing a few rule changes.
congress has also given MLB a no compete clause, allowing them to violate anti-trust laws.
free-agency was created as a result of civil law-suit.
much of sports was shaped by the government - pennvneff, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3I'm glad someone caught the satirical tone to that article.
I mean honestly one his lines in that article actually was, "Under the current BCS setup, almost everyone has the opportunity to be unhappy. There's equal-opportunity unhappiness. It's a lot more fun this way."
He taking a piss. The only thing he was serious about and I don't know why more people didn't notice it, ESPN guaranteed that the current BCS with no playoff system will be around till at least 2014 with their new contract. - pennvneff, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3He's NOT an AP writer, he identified himself as an "APer" or someone who is Anti-Playoff. Again, he's identifying himself as Anti-Playoff not a journalist that works for the Associated Press, that's a huge distinction some of you obviously missed including the person who submitted the article.
Also the actual AP, removed itself from all that BCS nonsense when it awarded USC the AP championship after the computers sent Oklahoma back in 2004.
One more thing, that article was satire if you couldn't figure it our already. - inactive, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3agreed. Get em, Barack! That is some change I can believe in...
- centerblack, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3Yea well, that's what you get for naming your arena after taco bell.
- tomrh3, on 11/22/2008, -2/+5The article is blatant parody. Did any of you even read it?
- defconoi, on 11/22/2008, -2/+5Sign the petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/ENDBCS/
Or create a new one @ petitiononline.com - elipabst, on 11/22/2008, -1/+4They asked him that question in an interview. What do you want him to do, refuse to answer? Should he not have formed an opinion on it?
- digggggggggg, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3I failed to pick up on any sort of valid argument. The guy claims that having the BCS is incentive for not losing, but in recent years where some of the nations top teams got upset by teams that most haven't even heard of, I think he just pointed out the BCS's biggest flaw.
That's just the problem with the mentality around the current system where only the top 2 get to duke it out: a single loss turns a top ranked team into a team not worth watching anymore. - gfxlonghorn, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3That's not the point, nobody wants to see 7 and 8 play.
- importantbrian, on 11/22/2008, -1/+4Actually college football is far more successful than the NFL. When is the last time 105,000 people showed up to watch a regular season NFL game? Those are the average #s for some of college footballs big programs. The largest NFL stadiums are the size of those at mid tear college programs. You get something like 30,000 people at a home game for the worst NFL teams. You've got to go all the way to #72 in college football, New Mexico, before you find attendance figures that low. I can't find states to compare the amount of money the two sports pull in, but I would be surprised if the top 25 college programs didn't pull in more money than all 32 NFL teams.
The thing that people ultimately forget is that college football isn't about them. What you want to see doesn't matter. College football is first and foremost about the players and what is best for them. It is second about the students who attend the university. Third, is the alumni, and dead last is the casual fan. Given that, if a playoff isn't good for the players then there shouldn't be one. I don't think you could make a convincing argument that a playoff is good for the players. - JBrown99, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3Agreed, it wasn't so much an argument as more of him saying "Hey, c'mon, it's zany, it's fun, it's crazy and out of control and doesn't really make much sense - why not keep it?"
- kcrochet, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2His arguments about filling stadiums with 100,000+ don't hold up during the bowl season. When two teams with no rivalry, or much history between them, meet in the Independence Bowl (or any minor bowl) with no interest to the local area hosting the game, they can't GIVE AWAY tickets to fill the stadium.
Have a playoff with 8 teams. Let all the rest of the bowl games assemble the best matchups of what's left in such a way that there's at least SOME interest in the host area. That way people will attend without having to bankroll a trip across the country.
Also, his arguments about 9th ranked Boise state being left out are empirical at best. So what, THIS year one team might be on the outside looking in. But, how many times in the past have there been no undefeated teams, or 8 teams with 1-loss, no clear cut #1 and #2? Maybe a team that's got no realistic chance of winning it all will sneak in once in a while, but the playoff games will weed them out. - theaceoffire, on 11/22/2008, -2/+4"When did President make you king?"
Bush gave himself lots of new authority, dismantled everyone who was supposed to examine the executive branch, and pardoned anyone who got caught doing something wrong that supported him.
So I would guess some time in the last 8 years.
Here's hoping against hope that Obama decides to actually give up the massive amounts of additional abilities that Bush gave him. - rockstar1o9, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2Personally, I've been a fan of a 6 team playoff system.
First Round
#5 vs. #4 - winner plays #1 in round 2.
#6 vs. #3 - winner plays #2 in round 2.
6 teams would give you 3 rounds total for a total of 5 games which is exactly how many BCS Bowl games we currently have.
3 weeks is a reasonable length of time for a collegiate playoff
Having a bye in the first round would be HUGE, and even getting into the top 6 wouldn't be cake, and thus the BCS rankings would still matter and teams would keep that incentive to try and finish the season undefeated.
The main problem with this would be that there are 6 BCS conferences and each member conference would want a guaranteed spot in a 6-team playoff. And there are years when one conference produces multiple contenders (like the SEC or Big 12 this year) while another conferences produces none (ACC, Big East) & years when non-BCS conferences jump in the fray (Utah, Boise St.). I say eliminate the conference ties and make it 6 at-large bids..but I know that'd never happen. - OutlawSundown, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2
The BCS system just needs to go away it's a load of crap. Anyhow I'd like to see one or two teams from smaller conferences get a shot in some sort of playoff system. - Rahmbo, on 11/22/2008, -1/+3There is only one thing I can say Obama is right about, and it's this. The system as it is, is a joke.
- gfxlonghorn, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2Or you get a field of 10 and do: 3-10, 4-9,5-8,6-7: which will give you 4 teams and the winner of those would go to 3:6, 4:5, then the winner of that would go to 3:2, 1:4, then the national championship .... This version would have 4 total rounds.
- bigtoes, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2He is anti -socialist on this argument no ?
- NoamChimpsky, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2A bye system would give you 2 LESS teams, not two more. You'd get a field of 6, just like the NFL conference playoffs.
- gfxlonghorn, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2It's hard to say. If you only win by a few points, its up in the air.
- nugx, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2Obama's right. The BCS system is the exact reason why I don't give a ***** about college football.
- kcrochet, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2I meant anecdotal, not empirical.
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