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- Alias1431, on 05/06/2009, -0/+21I drank a Dr. Pepper the other day, one made with pure sugar. Not only is it healthier, but it was twice as delicious. Down with high fructose corn syrup!
- illestlyrics, on 05/07/2009, -0/+8I know everything is bad for me, I should just eat grass.
- LennyPear, on 05/07/2009, -1/+8I've recently switched to Mexican Coke (that sounds funny). They also use sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. I used to think my mother was crazy, talking about stuff not tasting the same as it did years ago. She was right about Coke, though. It was like an instant trip back to childhood. You can get a flat of them (24) for about eighteen bucks at Sam's Club. I will never go back to American Cokes.
- ShoggothDreams, on 05/07/2009, -0/+7I *HAD* to Digg this for NOT spreading the article out across countless pages. That is becoming a rarity in web "content".
- blipblopblip, on 05/07/2009, -0/+7A well known "Sunny" beverage is actually almost at saturation point with sugar.
- styleinmotion, on 05/07/2009, -1/+7Surprised there's no mention of organic here, especially since the definition of organic is fairly arbitrary and random. Interesting digg!
- fugazied, on 05/07/2009, -0/+6It's still unhealthy, but not as unhealthy. I don't think the term 'healthier' should ever apply to soda, you are not doing yourself a favor when drinking it.
- katamariOFcats, on 05/07/2009, -0/+5Hydrosexuals?
- tamahome2, on 05/07/2009, -0/+4Leafy green vegetables are very healthy. :)
- TheMachine1, on 05/07/2009, -0/+4I do not accept the premise that salt substitutes are unhealthy.
The warnings about it applies to people with some major health problems. The Irony is if a person had been eating a high potassium to sodium diet in the first place they could have avoided the most common cause of kidney failure (high blood pressure).
Yes they taste bitter. But after a year of use you do not have any problems. - inactive, on 05/07/2009, -0/+4You might as well just drink the purple stuff.
- TheMachine1, on 05/07/2009, -0/+4Unless you are cooking nearly 100% of your own food from scratch it will be nearly impossible to run the risk of not getting enough sodium. High amounts of sodium are in most processed foods. Some tribes in the Amazon get as little as 100 mg daily. A single slice of bread likely has that much.
- induren, on 05/07/2009, -1/+5It should be noted that WSJ supports weaker regulations and weakened consumer protection laws, allowing these practices to continue, and allowing more consumers to be hoodwinked.
- blipblopblip, on 05/07/2009, -4/+7Typical, they skip Aspartame altogether and focus on xylitol, malitol and sorbitol which are much safer.
- nicktomyskins, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3http://blogs.consumerreports.org/health/2008/10/hi ...
White sugar and HFCS are essentially the same thing. They are both chemically processed,have fairly similar chemical properties, and are digested nearly the same way. Eating sugar in general is a necessity but there's clearly a difference between good sugars and bad sugars. Sure fruits and juice have high quantities of sugars, but humans bodies are more identifiable with sugars found in nature, therefore less of a burden is put on our bodies. On the other hand drinking a soda with HFCS or sugar is the same thing, its another story if you're soda has evaporated cane juice. - TheMachine1, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3You must have watched "Heathers".
- dmm219, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3can you cite a source? the latest issue of healthy eating found absolutely no credible study or data with evidence that the human body digests HFCS any differently than sugar...
I'm not fan of the food industry...trans fats were a terrible evil unleased on the world in order to save a few bucks...but I find a large amount of "gut feel" and a total lack of data and evidence from people who make claims such as this... - nicktomyskins, on 05/07/2009, -2/+5Not only is the taste better. Our body is used to digesting naturally grown sugar, while it has trouble with this overly processed man made sugar - high fructose corn syrup.
- MacEnvy, on 05/07/2009, -0/+3Most certifying agencies have websites where you can look up exactly what they mean by organic. They often have specific criteria. If you're interested in actually getting organic food when you pay for it, feel free to check out the certifying agency's website.
The certifying agency should be listed on the package. If it's not, don't buy it. - JCEEZ, on 05/07/2009, -0/+2Don't eat processed foods. Fresh is best. That's the easiest and best health advice anyone can get.
- askantik, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2MacEnvy is right about being able to look up specifics... Anyone who says "organic" has no clearly defined meaning doesn't know what they're talking about. QAI, Oregon Tilth, USDA are all respectable organic certifiers. And they all have extremely detailed guidelines concerning farming and processing of the foods that bear their labels.
- nicktomyskins, on 05/07/2009, -1/+3from what I've been reading lately smoking grass is good for you
- idighealth, on 05/07/2009, -0/+2It disgusts me how these big food/beverage companies are tricking people with clever branding techniques instead of just giving them what they are looking for (a product that is ACTUALLY healthy for them!)
- chronopublish, on 05/07/2009, -2/+4I don't need a citation to know this is absolutely true. When I drink soda made with sugar, I feel satisfied and full. When I drink soda made with HFCS, I don't get the "full/satisfied" feeling, which tends to make me want to drink more.
- RockMuncher, on 05/07/2009, -1/+3As far as salt substitutes, not only are they fairly unhealthy but most of them taste like metal shavings. Using crumbled celery leaves or powdered celery adds a salty flavour without being unhealthy.
- drvelocity, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2My favorite example of manufacturers playing around with on their ingredients list is something you'll see on a majority of organic foods: "Evaporated organic cane juice", more or less. Brilliant.
- MacEnvy, on 05/07/2009, -2/+4There isn't much proof that small amounts of Aspartame are bad for you though. Most of the people with anti-Aspartame websites are either trying to sell something or are just morons who also believe in things like homeopathy.
I'd be happy to check out some valid evidence against the use of small amounts of Aspartame (say, a gram or less per day as part of beverage sweeteners). I haven't been able to come up with any. Care to post some, if you know of it? - MacEnvy, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2"Natural salts". Hm. Not sure what you mean by that, since good old NaCl is pretty damn natural. "Other salty minerals"? Those would be the "salt alternatives" you are warning against in your OP, like KCl, MgSO4, CaCO3, etc.
Seriously, what the hell are you talking about? I can't claim to be a true chef, but I worked as a cook for a while and I've got a degree in Geology. Celery tastes like celery, and if there is excessive salitness in your celery for whatever reason, you're just adding salt to your dish via the vegetable. It's no different than adding it as a supplement. - MacEnvy, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2Those who dugg me down, do you care to post your evidence? Otherwise you are no better than an astrologer, or alchemist, or the Spanish Inquisition (at the extreme end).
Is Aspartame bad for you? PROVE IT! - fugazied, on 05/07/2009, -0/+2Skipping salt means you need to find another source of selenium. Removing salt from a diet should be done carefully, and only by those with a high blood pressure issue or some other health problem aggravated by salt.
- zagatbuzz, on 05/08/2009, -0/+2Great article. So much for healthy food actually being completely healthy.
- askantik, on 05/08/2009, -1/+3Evaporated cane juice is not the same thing as plain sugar... It is less refined. And it isn't bleached, either. Real sugar isn't supposed to be white as snow. And finally, a lot of regular sugar is from beets, while evaporated cane juice comes from... you guessed it, sugar cane. While it's not any less calories or healthy by any means, there is a difference. Is it big enough to warrant a new name? Sure. But I think the main reason behind that is that the new name doesn't include the word sugar.
But in reality, most people who are dumb enough to think that evaporated cane juice is not sugar don't read the labels on the food they eat anyway, so I don't know why these manufacturers bother.
A quick search on Google yields:
Here's what nutrition expert Melina Jampolis, M.D. had to say:
"Evaporated cane juice is pretty much just sugar," she says. "It is less processed so it retains trace vitamins and minerals but has the same amount of calories as sugar. It is a little sweeter so you might get away with using less sugar which is always good." - MacEnvy, on 05/07/2009, -1/+2How does celery add a salty flavor? Salt is tasty in food because Na is a monovalent cation.
Celery makes food taste like celery, unless you're using celery salt ... which has salt in it. - BottleRocketPR, on 05/07/2009, -0/+1BTW my favorite use of "Xtreme" goes to one of our local newscasts here in Detroit. Watching the weather report, we get to see our storms rolling in courtesy of the "7 Action News Doppler Radar Xtreme HD Viper!"
- BottleRocketPR, on 05/07/2009, -0/+1I agree, "Organic" is slapped on all kinds of packaging these days. There is no concrete definition, so it can apply to pretty much anything. It will officially take the title of useless marketing term away from "Xtreme" and "Electrolytes" in 2009
- induren, on 05/07/2009, -0/+1While I agree with you, that I like the taste of real sugar past high fructose corn syrup, usually drinks with sugar vs syrup are also given a different level of carbonation, that affects the taste. You may want to look at the carbonation and check if that's not the main factor.
Also, mind you, though I agree with you on the sugar thing, I also must note that in study after study, most people can not tell the difference between organic and non-organic foods. For me it's not the taste, it's the lack of extra "super fun" ingredients. - zebulon81, on 06/24/2009, -0/+1READ YOUR LABELS. Everything I thought I was buying that was 'healthy' ended up being full of unhealthy things.
- induren, on 05/07/2009, -0/+1They also do it to standardize meat volume/mass ratio, which makes their selling prices more "fair."
With normal meat there's going to be variation in volume/mass ratio, and that can lead to problematic pricing.
Taste tests according to the company show that people actually like the stuff with more salt. Which of course makes sense. People love salt :)
Mind you, I really don't like the practice. I'm just sayin'. - markmole, on 05/07/2009, -0/+1Really? Homosexual water? That's amazing... and I'm really, really thirsty...
- blipblopblip, on 05/10/2009, -0/+1http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/34040.php
- mine4321, on 05/07/2009, -0/+1Don't eat Tyson foods. They pump all their vacuum-sealed meats full of salt water so they can charge more!
- JCEEZ, on 05/07/2009, -0/+1WATER, SUGAR, PURPLE!
- askantik, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1Want to read something scary? Read the label on most "sooper dooper healthy whole wheat breads." I know it mentions this in the article, but I mean even the ones that say "100% WHOLE wheat bread." You'll often notice all sorts of unnecessary ingredients. What do I mean by unnecessary? Bread is flour, water, and yeast. And some salt and a little sugar.
- sgnpkd, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1potassium chloride=NaCl, salt
potassium=Na , good for body - bshock, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1I sympathize. It is often difficult to find something qualifying as bread in a U.S. grocery store. It's sometimes possible to find real bread at small local bakeries, but beware: some of these places buy commercial dough with the same industrial chemicals used by the big companies. This is almost universally true of the phony bakery sections of most grocery stores.
- MacEnvy, on 05/08/2009, -0/+1Why would I eat them if they weren't sweet? Would you eat candy if it wasn't sweet?
The point is, it *is* sweet, seems to be perfectly fine for you in small amounts, and reduces the calorie load that one can get from drinking sweetened coffee or tea all day. - DiggMeUpPlz, on 05/08/2009, -0/+0The water or the gay?
- RockMuncher, on 05/08/2009, -1/+1Celery is high in natural salts, which don't raise your blood pressure... and it's high in other salty minerals. Using celery is an old chef's trick, and it works a treat. :)
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