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- Murraythenut, on 07/09/2009, -0/+52Too much of anything is too much
- greensky, on 07/10/2009, -6/+53Brought to you by the milk and dairy industry.
- sockpuppets, on 07/10/2009, -2/+34Diarrhea is not an acceptable substitute for soy milk. I'd try regular milk first.
- inactive, on 07/10/2009, -1/+28Soy may mimic hormones but doesn't cow milk actually have hormones?
- xenuxenuts, on 07/10/2009, -2/+23or planning to see twilight.
- KarateMedia, on 07/10/2009, -0/+19I prefer almond milk. Quite good stuff.
- Surferess, on 07/09/2009, -9/+28Supposedly, it also has too many female hormones to be super great for men - Well, unless perhaps you're a pre-op tranny...
- sanskrtam, on 07/10/2009, -1/+171. Every green plant has pytho-estrogen (female horomone-ish substance of plant origin).
2. Un-fermented legumes (beans, lentils, and peas) are not really digestible for humans. - akchrs, on 07/10/2009, -4/+20I replaced the soy in my diet, except soy sauce, with beer and I find life much more enjoyable.
- inactive, on 07/09/2009, -2/+17Will this affect my Tofurky intake?
- sockpuppets, on 07/10/2009, -5/+19You looked queer sipping it while pretending to do things on your powerbook anyway. It's for the best.
- ozydingo, on 07/09/2009, -6/+19I love it. Article warns of the dangers of too much of something, and the first two comments are reactions that call for complete elimination. (Ok, so they weren't necessarily fully serious comments). Still, why are people so inclined to the extremes?
Any food or substance is likely to have observable adverse effects in large enough quantities or concentrations. Eliminating everything that shows such adverse effects is as well. Everything in moderation. - hhcash, on 07/10/2009, -13/+26Fact: Still healthier than meat anyway.
- xenuxenuts, on 07/10/2009, -2/+14unless you're allergic to it.
- Jeepinator, on 07/10/2009, -0/+11He referred to it as one. If he thought they were two separate entities then he would have said "milk and dairy industries."
- stanthegoomba, on 07/10/2009, -1/+12You can certainly "just cook soybeans and eat them".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edamame - diskoh, on 07/10/2009, -2/+13Wow, they must've had some very advanced artificial processing methods when they were eating soy in China 2,000 years ago.
- Mr8lack, on 07/10/2009, -1/+11maybe in the States but in Canada cows cannot be treated with growth hormones. Also milk from cows treated with antibiotics gets dumped for 4 days until the antibiotics are out of their system. If treated milk accidentally goes through the system the whole tank of milk gets dumped.
- inactive, on 07/10/2009, -0/+10even rice milk is better than soy milk i think.
also i used to have soy milk with my cereal for like 4 years, then i started having terrible digestive problems. cut out the soy milk and they all went away. - zephc, on 07/10/2009, -2/+12It's all full of massive amounts of sugar to make it palatable. Drink water.
- jakereilly, on 07/10/2009, -1/+11Looks like you don't know how to cook.
- Disgod, on 07/09/2009, -1/+10FTA:
"Not surprisingly, the Soyfoods Association of North America doesn't necessarily agree with these concerns. Nancy Chapman, the group's executive director, says that the Israeli Ministry of Health's warning was largely based on research that used rats, whose hormonal makeup and reproductive system don't accurately predict what may happen in the human body."
Seriously FFS every single time something like this happens this is practically the first claim that any group runs to. If this were true hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions, in research would be worthless. Plus, I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that they've used lab rat tested claims to support their product in the past, and only now that there is negative press do they take issue with the method. - sanskrtam, on 07/10/2009, -0/+8Scary fact that cow's milk we drink today is full of REAL female hormones and reacts more efficiently than soybeans.
- CrazyEddie041, on 07/10/2009, -0/+8Obviously, there was some terrible soy-related accident in the future, and Paul Tullis has been sent to correct it.
- charlietuna, on 07/10/2009, -2/+9"The soy industry can never prove safety,"
That's your red flag right there. Who can prove safety? The burden is to show there is little evidence of harm. Nobody can prove that there are no aliens among us, or that Oswald acted alone in killing Kennedy. I say this is pure FUD. - askantik, on 07/10/2009, -2/+9Anything is bad in huge amounts. Even water.
In other news, soy has been a mainstay of many Asian diets for thousands of years. And numerous studies (the most well known being The China Study) have shown that as they "Americanized" their diets with more meat, dairy, and processed foods, their healths have declined significantly. - snugglebunnywit, on 07/10/2009, -1/+8Mmmmmm!! Tofurky!
- MasterMynd, on 07/10/2009, -0/+7I give up.
- sealink, on 07/10/2009, -0/+7Notice that the article said "at-risk" women, which may not include people of Japanese descent. A better study would have identified women of Japanese descent and determined the baseline rate for Japanese women versus women of Japanese descent IN JAPAN and subject to Japanese culinary traditions.
- Quicksdraw, on 07/10/2009, -1/+7"Too much of a good thing can be wonderful"
-Mae West - vagarach, on 07/10/2009, -0/+6I remember reading somewhere that the processing of the soy beans is the key aspect of this problem. The traditional east asian methods for processing soy that were employed hundreds of years ago meant that the product did not contain these estrogen-like substances, unlike modern mass market methods.
I'm skeptical about this Weston A. Price foundation, sounds like a front for a dairy alliance. However, I'll keep drinking the plain hong-kong made Vitasoy soy milk, absolutely delicious! The north american versions taste like chalk. - Cornfuse, on 07/10/2009, -2/+8Dammit, I've been drinking soy milk at every meal for the past 3 years... And I'm 17. The manboobs, the shopping... It all makes sense now!
- Psynaut00, on 07/10/2009, -1/+7People who make an effort to eat healthfully and educate themselves already know that unfermented Soy is very suspect and should be eaten, at most, once per week.. People who don't know this, probably don't eat much Soy anyway.
- MrInfallible, on 07/10/2009, -0/+6Even Digg!?
- o0jrock0o, on 07/10/2009, -0/+6Edamame = best appetizer ever. It's not filling, it's light, it tastes awesome, and it's good for you (relative to eating chicken wings or something)
- CB810, on 07/09/2009, -6/+11No more soy lattes?
- poosenki, on 07/10/2009, -2/+7FTFA -
"By Paul Tullis
Photography by Christian Stoll
August 2009"
This article brought to you by the future? - EddiePotato, on 07/10/2009, -3/+8Fact: Humans are the only mammals that eat soybeans (baring domesticated mammals we feed soy to), but lots of mammals eat meat. Does nature have it all wrong?
- inactive, on 07/09/2009, -1/+6"What is clear today, according to the Harvard School of Public Health, is that when it comes to soy and health, "some of the claims...go far beyond the available evidence."
- nostraboris, on 07/10/2009, -3/+8I educated myself on the website you copied and pasted it from. The Weston A. Price foundation is rabidly anti soy and has a strange raw milk fetish
read the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_A._Price_Found ... - sanskrtam, on 07/10/2009, -1/+6"The biggest problem with soy is that most of it now is grown using genetically engineered seeds that bastardize its advantages proven over centuries."
The worst thing about genetically engineered soybean is that it's harder to grow than natural soybean. Specific soil requirement, more attentive care, and more detailed requirements of fertilizers. Genetically engineered soybean is only fine for non-food use because the quality has been degraded.
Screw you, Monsanto, for corrupting my joy of "real" soy when I lived in South Korea. - fucter, on 07/10/2009, -2/+7why doesnt the vegan girl i know have boobies at all then?
- taokr, on 07/10/2009, -2/+7Bacon?
- CB810, on 07/09/2009, -1/+5If you re-read those first two comments with funny in mind, you might not think of them as that extreme...
- EddiePotato, on 07/10/2009, -1/+5No, one can never eat too much bacon. Or mayonnaise.
- HimThatSpeaks, on 07/10/2009, -0/+4Or if you have a thyroid condition or would like to keep a good metabolism. It will help you cut some calories in the short term, at the cost of your metabolism in the long term. Not a very good trade off.
- johnpaul191, on 07/10/2009, -3/+7I think it takes more guts and discipline to be vegan than it does to live off McDonalds.
- silverchrysalis, on 07/10/2009, -0/+4do you mix the beer and soy sauce?
- scarlettletter, on 07/09/2009, -4/+8No more soy milk!!!! Oh oh, sounds like diarrhea!
- dmm219, on 07/10/2009, -1/+5too much of anything is bad. too much green tea will give you kidney stone...
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