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- Surferess, on 06/10/2009, -1/+24Whatever they want to store it in, I suspect most wine snobs will still opt for the bottle for the serving part.
- uptwolait, on 06/11/2009, -1/+20Once again, I'm ahead of my time.
- asnider, on 06/11/2009, -0/+14Regardless of the truth behind this, it'll take a long time to get people to accept that the box of wine you're serving them is better than anything packaged in a traditional wine bottle.
It's just like corks vs. screw-tops.
Screw-tops are slowly replacing corks---even on high-end wines---because they're actually a better way of moderating the amount of air that gets into a bottle, but people have been trained to think that a bottle of wine sealed with a screw-top is poor quality wine, so no matter how much money you spent on the bottle, if it comes with a screw-top, your date isn't likely to be impressed. - borez, on 06/11/2009, -0/+10For some reason I always feel like a complete alcoholic ( which I am ) if I'm buying a box of wine.
- Firstdaughter, on 06/11/2009, -0/+9Everytime I open a bottle (usually a Barossa Valley Syrah) with a screw cap with company - they always question why it doesn't have a cork. People need to be retrained.
I have a collection of French Bordeaux that I'm aging and I wish they had screw caps instead...
There is also a new type of cork that is not made of cork but rather some type of plastic. I wonder what impact those will have on the aging process. - BillE3, on 06/10/2009, -2/+11Only until they take away petroleum, the source for part of that box.
- borez, on 06/11/2009, -0/+9Agreed, I opened a bottle of Grand Cru class Mouton Rothschild Bordeaux last year on my (then) girlfriends birthday and the damn thing had oxidized because of a faulty cork. To say we were gutted is a complete understatement.
- Chairboy, on 06/11/2009, -0/+8>wine served like a kid's juice box
Slumkist? - sockpuppets, on 06/11/2009, -0/+7and surly!
- Chunken, on 06/11/2009, -2/+9If you buy boxed wine because you think it ages better you're an idiot.
- Smokeydabear, on 06/11/2009, -0/+7And with boxed wine you can play slap bag!
- asnider, on 06/11/2009, -0/+7I wonder about those faux-corks, too. Most likely, any wines that are corked with plastic corks are wines that are meant to be drunk relatively quickly.
Despite the common belief that wine gets better with age, most wine on the market is intended to be drunk more-or-less immediately and won't see much (if any) improvement with age. - TheCheeks, on 06/11/2009, -0/+6Ah, space bags.
- entrophize, on 06/11/2009, -1/+7Franzia FTW!
- drjennings, on 06/11/2009, -3/+8I've totally convinced myself that all the hoopla over fine wines and fantastic teas is just the human mind playing games. If you were to give a blind taste test and serve a selection of expensive and great wines next to a selection of boxed wine from Target the average "expert" would not be able to tell the difference. Here is one example of MANY. http://tinyurl.com/25suua
- darkzealot89, on 06/11/2009, -0/+5What... the *****?
- PaulClayberg, on 06/11/2009, -1/+6Just get an aerator for the bottled wine. Brings out many flavours you never knew were there, instantly, as you're pouring it.
- dgendreau, on 06/11/2009, -0/+5Its actually worse than that asnyder. About 10% of the time, a cork will contain a contaminant called Trichloroanisole or TCA which spoils or "corks" a bottle of wine. Thats why we use synthetic (high density foam) corks in our bottles (my family owns a small winery in upstate NY).
@Firstdaughter/asnyder, we have had no trouble with synthetic corks in the aging process. For home winemaking, I still recommend screw caps though.
Info on TCA contamination:
http://www.atozwineworks.com/thisorthat.html - AmyVernon, on 06/11/2009, -2/+7Just gimme a straw and a box of wine and I'm good.
- tj111, on 06/11/2009, -0/+5They make wine "juice boxes", I just bought some for my girlfriend the other day at target. It's actually surprisingly good, but not great. The perfect thing for the wine-o on the go. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/3237019487_57c ...
- SteveMTyler, on 06/11/2009, -0/+4my favorite joke:
Does it come in a box? - Coffeedemon, on 06/11/2009, -1/+5You can't because the people who take the time to rate wine on the internet are a pack of snobs.
- Konrad9, on 06/11/2009, -0/+4Sir, I only drink the finest and most frugally priced boxed wine.
..is frugally even a word? - hiscifi, on 06/11/2009, -1/+5But the plastic lining contained in the boxes has Bisphenol and leeches into the liquid, hence it cannot possibly be as healthy or as good for you as storing it in a glass bottle. And aging a wine sometimes takes YEARS, not months.
The excitement for this "relevant news" by same guys who brought us the "mac index" is disheartening. - GeekNurse, on 06/11/2009, -0/+4o_0
- Barr08, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3My favorite is Sunset Blush
- Coffeedemon, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3I read a column on wine where someone asked if it was bad form to pour your own wine when at a resturaunt (not the first glass which usually gets poured by the waiter after they open it for you... that one I can see waiting for a pour). I think it will be a cold day in hell before you get someone who would ask such a thing to accept that wine can come out of a box.
- robinthehood, on 06/11/2009, -1/+4FYI, you buy wine in the box because you're an alcoholic.
- Chairboy, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3> Remember where you heard this first. lol
NPR, about 5 years ago? - retardrus, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3Not everyone drinks to get *****, some people appreciate the different nuances alcoholic drinks can bring. People sip at wine tasting because they want to be able to appreciate the wine, once you're trashed you might as well be drinking water. If you do not think there's a difference between some generic macrobrew (miller light whatever) vs a good microbrew your taste buds are not what they should be. Same thing with wine, some wine is better than others - chances are that 3-4$ bottle of wine is death compared to a local 10-15$ bottle of wine. You'd be surprised how much a of snob you can you become once you have something that actually tastes good.
- glberns, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3especially becuase there is a plastic lining inside the box, so this argument is invalid.
- BeatPunchbeef, on 06/11/2009, -1/+4problem is, if you spend all day wine tasting and drink it all instead or spitting it out, you tend to be face first on the floor before the rest of your crew are done and you end up looking like an idiot. Trust me, I do it every time and I am damn proud of it.
But for real, good wine is way better than crap wine. Like Coors vs Pliny the Elder. Drink for the taste and enjoy it. - InfiniteNothing, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Nope. I've had wines I thought were going to be really good end up being pretty meh and vice versa. Perception does play a roll but it's not all the same.
- CrimsonFlash, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2I only drink wine that is in a brown glass bottle.
- thrill, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2I'm more interested in the science of "spelleing correcteing"
- Chompy, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Yes, it is.
- pak314, on 06/11/2009, -3/+5What about the petroleum that is used to heat the glass to make the bottle?
- zagatbuzz, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Quite the informative article! We should be thinking about the carbon footprint here too, and if it really does improve the taste for specific wines I'm all for it!
- Firstdaughter, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Thanks dgendreau :)
- kenlaw, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2I thought magnets were the secret to aging wine. Most people can't tell the difference between good wine and bad wine or even describe what make a good wine.
Just another excuse to be a wine snob and save a little money.
I prefer ripple myself. - Sheaan, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2O_o
- anexanhume, on 06/11/2009, -1/+3ageing of wHine
I was afraid no one would get it :D - Rudegar, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2suspect that most wine normal people buy in bottle or cardboard
benefit little from ageing it
most would prob turn to vinegar pretty fast - SystemicThought, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1I read box cleaver and got excited.
I also read that putting wine in a blender aerates the wine and somehow simulates the aging process. But that's what the page actually said. Why wasn't this about box cleavers? - coelomate, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1I've always been a fan of the jug, my self.
Pro-jug-wine-tip: do not under any circumstances allow it to enter a glass. The act of pouring or entering a more open vessel may inadvertently cause you to smell the wine, which greatly diminishes the experience. - erockchop, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1http://www.how-to-make-wine.net/index.html?hop=esj ...
- inactive, on 06/11/2009, -1/+2Or because it's cheap and all wine tastes the same to you :P
- Chunken, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1You both fail. Wine tasters often use double blind taste testing. That means they have no idea if the wine came from a box, a bottle, or someones shoe. So please explain to me how the "snobs" can tell the difference. I can't believe I'm getting dugg down, did you guys even read the article? It says that boxed wine allows for more oxidation(that's a bad thing). It says that the polyethylene, paper, and aluminum foil can soak up chemicals caused by beetles that infested the vineyard(this doesn't happen at good vineyards). A side effect of this is that the polyethylene, paper, and foil also get into the wine. The article doesn't attempt to suggest that boxed wine is better than bottled wine in any way, it says the aging process is different when holding the wine in plastic. So yeah go on drinking your $6 box of wine that you think is so great. I'll be enjoying my wine out of glass.
- r00fus, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1I know for a fact that SOME good wines can be immediately appreciated.
I've had really good wine that was aged 20 years and preserved really well, and it tasted incredible.
Of course, I have many other examples of "good wines" where the preservation was not so well, and they tasted OK. - secrity, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Jug wine and boxed wine is packaged when it is ready to drink, it is intended to be drank soon after packaging and it doesn't need aging.
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