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Ten Table Manner Tips Every Guy Should Know
ploomy.com — We all remember the basics our mothers taught us about table manners –no elbows on the dinner table and don’t talk with your mouth full. But ever wonder which fork to use for your salad or how to signal a waiter at a fancy restaurant? Read on and learn the basics in table manners that will be sure to impress your date, girlfriend
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- benpattersonca, on 02/21/2008, -50/+7This should be titled 'How to Keep Your Girlfriend'. Good stuff...
- greenlight2001, on 02/21/2008, -5/+10611. Don't stick your dick in the mash potatos.
- BTConan, on 02/21/2008, -0/+16So that's what I've been doing wrong all this time.
- mydigga, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2well, it's gonna be that kinda party...
- wattznext, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Well, then maybe it shouldn't have been THAT kinda party...
- cliffzdude, on 02/21/2008, -14/+212. Don't stick the mashed potatoes in your... Allrighty then...
- lukas88, on 02/21/2008, -4/+52if your girlfriend is aware of more than half of these "tips" and her opinion of you hinges on them then she is probably a pretentious bitch.
- SlvrEagle23, on 02/21/2008, -1/+11Furthermore, if your means of keeping a girlfriend don't include gestures of affection, listening or compromise, and instead include placing your napkin on your chair when you stand up, then *you're* a pretentious bitch.
- schuder, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1Not only that a lot of these seem *****. Who the frig hasn't passed something across the table? My girlfriend would smack me (and I would deserve it) if I passed something in a circle. Using a spoon to spit food out of your mouth and then put it on your plate? And he says crap on your drink is gross? I call a serious wad of BS.
- didiman, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2It all depends on context. If you are eating out at a 5-star restaurant and paying a few hundred dollars per person for meal you would act differently than if you were at a backyard bbq.
- NonServium, on 02/29/2008, -0/+1"If you are eating out at a 5-star restaurant and paying a few hundred dollars per person for meal"
Then you're already an idiot. But even if I was foolish enough to do that, I'd pay no mind to such completely unimportant things as which fork I eat what with or whether I'm supposed to butter my bread all at once or in small bites, nor would I care about the opinions of anyone who did.
"you would act differently than if you were at a backyard bbq."
You assume too much. In my opinion the article should have been titled "Hey sheeple, this is a list of arbitrary rules governing eating behavior which we're just going to give you to see if you've been conditioned to be properly submissive enough to follow even though there's no logical purpose for any of them." Maybe you'll act differently in such a place, nervously hoping you grabbed the right spoon or held the meat fork with the correct hand while cutting into it, lest people murmur about you or cast disapproving glances in your direction, but you can't speak for everyone.
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -10/+3Or "How To Act Like An Adult."
- SlvrEagle23, on 02/21/2008, -3/+19Yes, because one of the cornerstones of adulthood is adhering to completely arbitrary rules defined by people with nothing better to do than to dictate ***** to other people about how they should eat. The less of your own common sense you use, the more elite you look!
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -7/+3Whoa, dude. I think you're reading way too deep into things...
- SlvrEagle23, on 02/21/2008, -3/+19Yes, because one of the cornerstones of adulthood is adhering to completely arbitrary rules defined by people with nothing better to do than to dictate ***** to other people about how they should eat. The less of your own common sense you use, the more elite you look!
- Speaking, on 02/21/2008, -3/+2People get ticked whenever someone makes a "25 cool projects every guy should know" which I guess (?) assumes all girls are wimps. Well WTF(!?!?!) about a "10 ways you as a guy are a lazy slob"? Why not a "Ten table manner tips for lazy, nasty bitches"??? For all those dumbass blonds that chew with their mouths open and giggle at 300 decibels?
- Abomonog, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVpoJS7ZnDY
Penn and Teller can reply better than I.
- greenlight2001, on 02/21/2008, -5/+10611. Don't stick your dick in the mash potatos.
- RogerTourbiner, on 02/21/2008, -9/+320If your date actually notices any of these mistakes, quickly excuse yourself to the bathroom, climb out the window, and run. Fast.
- nonsequitor, on 02/21/2008, -4/+36What do you do if your Boss's Boss notices these mistakes?
- JaredXM, on 02/21/2008, -4/+59Tell him to take the stick out of his ass.
- cowsgonemadd3, on 02/21/2008, -1/+18What if he does not own a donkey?
- macbookpromat, on 02/21/2008, -3/+5Divide by zero and hope it spawns a black hole?
- cowsgonemadd3, on 02/21/2008, -1/+18What if he does not own a donkey?
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -0/+15If my boss is that uptight, I would be ***** anyway. Might as well eat out of the trough while it lasts.
- dinostabOMG, on 02/21/2008, -0/+33Well, in the movies, you would insult him viciously. He would then compliment the cut of your jib, and give you a promotion.
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1get a job where the boss's boss has more important things on his mind?
- JaredXM, on 02/21/2008, -4/+59Tell him to take the stick out of his ass.
- mllawso, on 02/21/2008, -0/+15Question: Is it acceptable to use my cutlery to defend my plate?
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2this is advice i could use, too. my fiance likes to say, "what's that over there!" and when i look away from my plate, i lose food. i've always assumed it would be bad form to stab him with my butterknife, but i haven't heard it spelled out.
- mllawso, on 02/22/2008, -0/+0My father actually stabbed his brother in the hand with a fork when he was a kid.
They left his plate alone after that.
- mllawso, on 02/22/2008, -0/+0My father actually stabbed his brother in the hand with a fork when he was a kid.
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2this is advice i could use, too. my fiance likes to say, "what's that over there!" and when i look away from my plate, i lose food. i've always assumed it would be bad form to stab him with my butterknife, but i haven't heard it spelled out.
- macaddct1984, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1If you end up putting something scalding hot in your mouth, don't be embarrassed to spit it out!
It's less embarrassing to spit it out than to swallow it and have your throat close up and choke. - FLarsen, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Penn & Teller: *****! - Manners:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C862BF5160 ...
- nonsequitor, on 02/21/2008, -4/+36What do you do if your Boss's Boss notices these mistakes?
- geekchic, on 02/21/2008, -6/+43I was in a restaurant at the weekend and a friends plate wasn't being cleared away after he finished. I pointed out that he should put his cutlery together and at the 6:30 position. The plate was removed immediately.
These little rules do help as subtle hints to the waiters so that they know your situation without having to interrupt and ask you.- MikeEnIke, on 02/21/2008, -0/+12So, are you supposed to do that or put them at 10 to 4?
- TonyLocNE, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4When I was younger I was told to cross your fork and knife in the middle of the plate....
Now I'm really confused
*edit: I should have kept reading the comments.. Jerodslay I believe is correct- vanimal, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3If you cross them, that signals that you are still eating. Diagonal and parallel means you're finished.
- TonyLocNE, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4When I was younger I was told to cross your fork and knife in the middle of the plate....
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -3/+10It doesn't really matter what angle you place your silverware, so long as your fork and knife are both on the dish and parallel.
- JerodSlay, on 02/21/2008, -2/+15I read (How to Be a Gentleman) that you cross the silverware in a plus sign +. I guess if you place it on the plate in a shape that looks planned, they'll know you're done. I also read that you don't use the fork to cut salad.
One left off is start with the outside forks/knives and move in (salad, appetizer, main, desert, etc.).- xutopia, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2Some of these table manner books assume that your lettuce will be the correct bite size but it isn't always the case. It's best to cut your lettuce discreetly than to try to shove a piece in your mouth and choke on it though.
- cor315, on 02/21/2008, -0/+0actually they did meantion that, you have to read the first part.
But cutting salad with a knife? that just seems wierd to me
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -2/+49Sounds like ***** service to me. They always know to take my plate away when I am done licking it clean.
- Aensland, on 02/21/2008, -1/+3I'm surprised you're still inside the restaurant when they see you start licking plates ;)
- brownspank, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Can't blame the restaurant when he's saving them on detergent and water.
- bowe, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Why should any of this matter today? We're living in 2008, I'd think we'd have at least progressed enough to have adopted the spork and forgotten these silly rules.
- trollhunter, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0Sporks - cos usin' two hands to feed ya face is too much hard work...
- saruyama, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1And what is the polite way to lick it clean? Use two hands to hold it up to your face or keep it on the table and just lower your face?
- Aensland, on 02/21/2008, -1/+3I'm surprised you're still inside the restaurant when they see you start licking plates ;)
- elTito, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I've read in at least a couple etiquette books that placing your knife and fork parallel to one another, fork below the knife with the handles at the 4:00 (other ends at 10:00) position is the proper way to signify that you are done with your meal *shrug*. The article corroborates this.
Always seems to work for me, assuming I'm at a restaurant where the wait staff knows what's going on. - bobtcat, on 02/21/2008, -0/+11I always heard you have to cross your fork over the plate at the 6:00, then balance the knife on your nose at a straight 12:00. And if you used it, hold your spoon at a 90 degree angle.
- davidg11, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3Don't forget do so while juggling the salt and pepper shakers.
- trollhunter, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0Actually this rule only works between 6 and 7pm during the summer months. All other times you have to turn around on the spot 5 times while singing "I'm just a girl who can't say no" and, when finished, sacrifice a virgin goat to the twin gods of Hoth and Theoth. THEN you juggle the salt and pepper...
Unless you're more than 6' tall then you need to inflate a large....
- stronglikedan, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Every waiter in every restaurant I've ever eaten in takes my plate when I put my silverware on it however I choose and wad up my napkin over it. Let's not get so damn anal...the waiters know who's hand feeds them.
- Inquisition, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Oh no! Wadding the napkin on the plate is an etiquette no-no.
Most books on etiquette go out of their way to point this out.- stronglikedan, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I know...but it gets the job done. (the waiter's job that is)
I forgot to mention that I'm a programmer, so I naturally throw out proper etiquette in lieu of efficiency.
- stronglikedan, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I know...but it gets the job done. (the waiter's job that is)
- Inquisition, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Oh no! Wadding the napkin on the plate is an etiquette no-no.
- ridercologne, on 02/22/2008, -0/+1fork and knife parallel at the 6:30 position: "dish was excellent - finished, thanks" - this is how it goes.
- MikeEnIke, on 02/21/2008, -0/+12So, are you supposed to do that or put them at 10 to 4?
- suzywang3000, on 02/21/2008, -26/+4"Read on and learn the basics in table manners that will be sure to impress your date, girlfriend"
Homophope!- ch4os1337, on 02/21/2008, -2/+2Homophobe?
(My spell check it telling me that "homophobe" should be spelled "homophone" and that makes me wonder.. whats a homophone?)- fatlip, on 02/21/2008, -1/+7homophone is 2 (or more) words that sound alike but have different meanings
like their, they're, and there- ch4os1337, on 02/26/2008, -1/+1Thanks, I thought it was something like that.
- VinceNoir, on 02/21/2008, -3/+19A homophone is also commonly referred to as the Apple iPhone.
- diktator279, on 02/21/2008, -5/+3Obviously a gay phone.
- fatlip, on 02/21/2008, -1/+7homophone is 2 (or more) words that sound alike but have different meanings
- JT114881, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Is the second 'h' silent?
- trollhunter, on 02/27/2008, -1/+0Not really. It's actually pronounced like an "r".
- ch4os1337, on 02/21/2008, -2/+2Homophobe?
- DermDoc, on 02/21/2008, -4/+41In my neighborhood growing up, the way to get the waiter's attention for your date was to snap your fingers over your head, and say, "OoHHH!"
- form3hide, on 02/21/2008, -5/+1...do you want the waiter to spit in your food? because he/she will if you are doing that.
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -1/+28If I really want to get the waiter, I spill something. Works every ***** time.
- form3hide, on 02/21/2008, -4/+2have you ever waited tables?
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -1/+21I didnt say it was nice, I said it works.
- form3hide, on 02/21/2008, -4/+3So why do it if it's not nice? or are you just trying to be a smart ass on digg?
- csw1342, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Its better than successfully looking like a dumbass??
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -1/+21I didnt say it was nice, I said it works.
- form3hide, on 02/21/2008, -4/+2have you ever waited tables?
- cor315, on 02/21/2008, -2/+7or just slap her on the ass
"hey bitch wheres my food!" - bowe, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1That's okay as long as you're in Mexico and you follow it by "Camarero, Camarero!"
- bowserkid, on 02/21/2008, -7/+80"When you don’t want to swallow a piece of food in your mouth (e.g. a bone or a piece of fat), move the piece to the front of your mouth and use your fork (or spoon if that’s what you were using) to retrieve it from your mouth and into the side of your plate."
Um, ew?- fatlip, on 02/21/2008, -1/+45what's wrong with 'wiping your mouth' with a napkin?
- georgetds, on 02/21/2008, -0/+16You only have the one napkin in a classy restaurant, and I doubt you want that piece of food falling into your lap.
- davidrools, on 02/21/2008, -0/+23that's why you dump it onto the floor, under the table, and no one knows!
- ep53, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2OMG! True, so true....Have done that a few times in my life
- NonServium, on 02/29/2008, -0/+1Obviously you were raised by wolves.
- georgetds, on 02/21/2008, -0/+16You only have the one napkin in a classy restaurant, and I doubt you want that piece of food falling into your lap.
- requinox, on 02/21/2008, -2/+15It certainly seems more polite than spitting it out or reaching in with your fingers.
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -0/+12What about spitting it onto the floor?
- VinceNoir, on 02/21/2008, -0/+19My three year old is off to a good start. She screams, "WHAT IS THIS!!!" when someone puts something on her plate.
- mapkinase, on 02/21/2008, -3/+1Something tells me your child is not from Ethiopia.
- ep53, on 02/21/2008, -1/+3@ Vincenoir: "THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!"
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -0/+12What about spitting it onto the floor?
- diktator279, on 02/21/2008, -0/+27I always enjoy the "spit into the glass of the person next to you" technique
- unfinite, on 02/21/2008, -1/+5I meticulously cut off every little bit of fat, gristle, skin, and bone before putting it in my mouth.
- elTito, on 02/21/2008, -4/+1Oddly enough, it's considered very rude to spit into a napkin. I have no idea why, but that's the way it is. You're supposed to just pull it out of your mouth and plop it down on your plate there. YUMMY.
- cor315, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2ya i'll stick the napkin, or if i have to, swallow...
- seeyounorth, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2That's what she said!
......no?
- seeyounorth, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2That's what she said!
- fatlip, on 02/21/2008, -1/+45what's wrong with 'wiping your mouth' with a napkin?
- BluthAMP, on 02/21/2008, -4/+89"It’s acceptable to raise your hand to head level, just don’t go overboard by raising it way above your head and wave it about."
Ooohh... Ms. Clifton Ms. Clifton Ms. Clifton Ms. Clifton- Peko, on 02/21/2008, -7/+4OH! OH! MISTA KOTTA!
- Mitijea, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I guess there's no Horseshack love going on here.
- Inquisition, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Most of the diggers here were too young to remember that show.
-Signed: Epstien's Mom
- Inquisition, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Most of the diggers here were too young to remember that show.
- Mitijea, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I guess there's no Horseshack love going on here.
- americamatrix, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2Hmmm... Mrs. Griffin.
Ohhhh !
*throws books on the floor
Gotta love Family Guy ;]
- Peko, on 02/21/2008, -7/+4OH! OH! MISTA KOTTA!
- DeskFlyer, on 02/21/2008, -39/+158"if you follow these tips, you’ll be a step closer towards proper table etiquette."
More like one step closer to becoming a prudish douchebag.- nonsequitor, on 02/21/2008, -25/+113Nothing wrong with having a bit of class.
- noseeme, on 02/21/2008, -8/+98Nothing wrong with having my forks facing in the wrong direction.
- lukas88, on 02/21/2008, -5/+6Many people are impressed with their own perceived level of class. However, if they follow table manner tips they got off the internet (directed there by digg, no less), well, let's just say they are easily impressed.
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -6/+16To bad none of this has anything to do with class.
- herro, on 02/21/2008, -9/+4except the part where it has everything to do with class.
- VinceNoir, on 02/21/2008, -2/+15Actually I'm reading a VERY interesting book called "A Framework for Understanding Poverty". It talks about the poverty class, the middle class and the wealthy. (Poverty is not only about money according to the book. There are other resources that when missing have just as much effect as a lack of money) According to the book, there are hidden rules in each class. Of all of them, one of the things the wealthy class values the highest is decorum. This is not as important to the middle class and is a completely abstract concept to the poverty class. So, yes, as sad as it is, this does have to do with class. Quite a comment on just how pointless life can be sometimes.
- docbob84, on 02/21/2008, -2/+9I hope, one day, to be rich/high class enough that I have nothing better to worry about than how someone at my table removes a fishbone from their mouth. Until that day, I will cut my roll in half as I please, and I will let my kids eat their steak with ketchup and mustard. If you're worrying about all of these "classy" rules for a meal, you're not enjoying the meal and the company in my opinion.
- elTito, on 02/21/2008, -1/+5Manners are a sign of respect for those with whom you are dining/interacting, not a self-congratulatory indulgence (though some people do indeed think too highly of themselves).
- vofuse, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I'm pretty sure he's talking about class strictly in the sense of personal style, rather than economic stratum.
- nicko68, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1"Quite a comment on just how pointless life can be sometimes."
Thank you, that's my thought exactly. People need more important things to focus on. In the grand scheme of things, who gives a care if you eat your cut meat with your left or right hand?
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -4/+10Sorry, but putting the fork at the right place on the plate when you are done isnt ***** class. If you think it is, you have no idea what real class is.
- Worldchrisis, on 02/21/2008, -5/+14There's a difference between class and completely arbitrary "rules" that don't mean anything.
- DarkPhoen1x, on 02/21/2008, -0/+9Why is every comment on both sides of this issue have plus diggs? Apparently digg is made up of class-filled douchebags that agree that they're...class filled douchebags? I don't know, and my head hurts...lol
- saymawa, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5i think i'm one of them. it's my short attention span.
"oh, this point makes sense. ooh, this one too."
- saymawa, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5i think i'm one of them. it's my short attention span.
- nonsequitor, on 02/21/2008, -25/+113Nothing wrong with having a bit of class.
- nonsequitor, on 02/21/2008, -3/+36Wow, I already knew everything on the list, except the part about how to take a piece of bone or gristle out of your mouth. I wouldn't worry about these on a date, business lunches are another story.
- strictnein, on 02/21/2008, -0/+28The gristle part seems strange, since everything else I've read says to use your napkin. I mean, grabbing bad meat out of one's mouth with a fork, thus placing the nasty stuff in plain view of everyone, seems strange.
- xutopia, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1Yeah I disagree with half the etiquette in those books because of such nonsense. Sometimes it's best to just wing it.
- rot13ubercrypto, on 02/21/2008, -1/+13You'd remove it with a fork, but ideally you'd put your napkin in front of it. Like you hide your gaping maw with your hand when you pick your teeth. It's just common courtesy to your table partners to not expose them to your half-chewed slop or your yawning hippo cakehole.
- DarkPhoen1x, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2dugg for 'yawning hippo cakehole'
- nicko68, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I agree. You're hiding your napkin, and not drinking with a dirty mouth to avoid having others see food particles, yet having a huge chunk of half-chewed food on your plate is ok.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Just pretend to choke, and when someone gives you the Heimlich, spit it out towards your least favorite dinner guest.
- counterspin, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Note to self: no date with nonsequitor.
A business date is more important than, well...?
Come on.- DarkPhoen1x, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Well to be fair, if I were on a date with a girl, and this kind of stuff mattered that much to her, I probly wouldn't want to date her anyway...but if it were a business lunch, then I would just be trying to impress my class on whoever was on the other side of the table.
- strictnein, on 02/21/2008, -0/+28The gristle part seems strange, since everything else I've read says to use your napkin. I mean, grabbing bad meat out of one's mouth with a fork, thus placing the nasty stuff in plain view of everyone, seems strange.
- Sken, on 02/21/2008, -5/+89Do Americans actually swap the fork over to the right hand? Is there a reason for this? It seems like a huge inconvenience, and it's always been considered poor form everywhere else.
- HardSide, on 02/21/2008, -18/+5I've know a lot of people that come from Western European countries that have the same custom.
- ch4os1337, on 02/21/2008, -2/+4I am sure "a lot" doesn't apply to the majority of them..
- Halukard, on 02/21/2008, -1/+10I hope not. I'm Canadian and never did this. Well, French Canadian actually... so maybe we may be following what they call the continental way here... i don't know.
- xutopia, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Half anglo-half Acadian here. The anglo side switches but not the Acadian side.
- macbookpromat, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Is it weird that I cut with my left hand?
- Xondar, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2British Columbian. People around here know about the switching "American" way, but do it the non-switching normal way.
- xutopia, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Half anglo-half Acadian here. The anglo side switches but not the Acadian side.
- MillionsLivio, on 02/21/2008, -6/+27I'm an American and I have never seen anyone nor heard of anyone doing this. Seems like an utter waste of time.
- matu4251, on 02/21/2008, -1/+8You might be surprised next time you go to the restaurant and take a look around :) (it's either switching or people not even bothering with the knife: just cutting with the fork).
- bowserkid, on 02/21/2008, -7/+65I was taught to do it growing up, with the reasoning that when you use the knife in your right hand you're better able to cut the meat. The fork in the left hand goes into the bulk of the meat, you cut away the slice, switch hands, and use the fork in your right hand to pick up the cut slice of meat.
Besides giving you a better way to cut I think it's supposed to slow down your eating -- especially during gatherings -- so you have a chance to chew and talk.- TheFiestyFaun, on 02/21/2008, -3/+22I don't know why your getting dug down. Your being polite, giving an answer, and giving an explanation. Sorry man.
- bowserkid, on 02/21/2008, -0/+12Haha, maybe some people just really don't like the American zig zag style? But thanks for the digg back up.
- saymawa, on 02/21/2008, -5/+1maybe because it's not much of an answer than it is a reiteration.
- Elranzer, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4Just don't chew and talk at the same time.
- bowserkid, on 02/21/2008, -0/+8But how will anyone know what I'm eating if I don't show them?
- ggacid, on 02/21/2008, -0/+13I wasn't really taught that growing up, but rather did it instinctively.. It's much easier to use the knife with your right hand (I'm right handed). When attempting to cut with my left hand, It's not very smooth/accurate and I end up shaking the table..
- duality, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4I'm an American, and a left-handed person. When I was a kid, my parents taught me the mirror image of the "American way": cutting with my left hand, and then switching the fork into my left hand from my right. (It helped that both of my parents were also left-handed.) Eventually, I taught myself how to use a knife with my right hand instead, which made things easier because most knives are sharpened exclusively for right-handed use. Now, nobody can tell just by watching me eat that I'm left-handed, because the "Continental way" looks perfectly normal for me.
- counterplex, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3I've always held the fork in my right hand, cut with the knife in the left hand and not have to worry about switching utensils. I also put the fork into the bite I'm cutting off and not into the piece of meat I'm cutting it from (if that makes sense). I find it much more efficient and hassle free not to mention there isn't a danger of a midair fork/knife collision which will result in serious noise and attention :)
- magicaltrevor, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I use the same method. Frankly, I find that any method other than my own is just weird.
- vincicon, on 02/21/2008, -0/+0I've got to agree with counterplex, why switch when everything is where it needs to be. Besides, should anyone at the table deserve a stabbing, you're always at the ready. (especally true at company Christmas parties)
- bowe, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I'm left-handed, the continental way is the way I go. I don't seem to have a problem cutting my food with my right hand, although I think I did when I was younger.
- TheFiestyFaun, on 02/21/2008, -3/+22I don't know why your getting dug down. Your being polite, giving an answer, and giving an explanation. Sorry man.
- stevo3131, on 02/21/2008, -1/+43I was always told that it was done to piss the Brits off because they are so proper.
- xtc46, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1thats the reasoning I use for most things in life.
- jpb0104, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2zing stevo. international style.
- bdbr, on 02/21/2008, -0/+6I've seen people do it. I don't. I don't think its considered bad manners either way in America.
- stellamaris, on 02/21/2008, -0/+9I've done it just out of habit before. I'm not ambidextrous, and some foods are harder to stab, so I gotta switch to my writing hand.
- cliffzdude, on 02/21/2008, -2/+39"Continental Style" has been and is perfectly correct etiquette. After reading this, I realized the author is either 9 years old, or a douche bag, or a 9 year old douche bag.
The lesson that should be taught is how to hold a knife and fork. The fork is bent for a reason, don't hold it like a dick for pete's sake.
I'm not a snobby eater by any means, but knowing how to eat a meal in a decent eating establishment with a tad bit of class is a skill anybody should have mastered before they turn 13.- starf, on 02/21/2008, -0/+8Right.
It's pretty funny that the method used in most places of the world, and originated first "is gaining acceptance and [the 9 year old douche bag] wouldn’t be surprised if one day soon it’s considered acceptable in fine dining." - cdigioia, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3Exactly, the "continental method" is the accepted method in US fine dining (I already knew the rules listed + many more...I guess cuz I'm a pretentious douchbag or something...)
- starf, on 02/21/2008, -0/+8Right.
- lindasue, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2While I agree that you should always try to use proper etiquette in public places, I also think that if you're not ambidextrous, you should go ahead and use your dominant hand when you eat. Better to have control over your food than to have it go in your lap while you're trying to eat.
- psykiv, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4I've always ate continental style. I also already knew all of these.
/Loved to read in his free time when he was little
/read an entire book on table manners.- TonyLocNE, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1have you also read up on different dining customs for different countries?
also, thanks for letting me know that I wasn't the only nerd who read things like this for fun- elTito, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Same here. I have no idea why etiquette interests me, but it does.
- TonyLocNE, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1have you also read up on different dining customs for different countries?
- Worldchrisis, on 02/21/2008, -0/+23I never switch hands to use my fork, waste of time, my left hand is perfectly capable of stabbing and lifting.
- triskele, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4Precisely. I don't understand all this talk about trouble not being ambidextrous. If you're properly holding your utensils, a skill you should be well versed in by the time you're out of grammar school, ambidexterity is far from necessary to stab a piece of food and place it in your mouth.
- mapkinase, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1"stabbing " THIS IS SPARTA!
- wolferz, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2If the person in question has poor hand-eye coordination it is probably better if they use their dominant hand to put food in their mouth. Otherwise they might drop it on their shirt or end up trying to feed it to their nasal cavity.
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -3/+3If you need a knife to cut it, the damn thing aint cooked right. Better to just mash the fork through it.
- Vodka2389, on 02/21/2008, -0/+10If you can cut a steak with a fork, something is not right with it.
- thatashguy, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5I've done it since i was a kid (I'm Australian) and everybody i know hates me for doing it, my mum even used to try and make me not do it. i don't know why i do it, i even feel as though it's wrong when i do it like that.. i feel like i must look like a massive douche-burger who cant use a knife and fork.
I've tried not to, but i just feel for myself it is easier and feels, honestly, more passive. i don't know anyone else who does it though.
when i do it at restaurants i feel like a dick. hah.
now i can just just say "no, look, i read it on the internet. I'm all class.. a class of douche none the less, but all class."
uhg.- Gizza, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4I'm Australian and I remember as a kid my parents would always try to make sure we never swapped hands while eating. Fork in left and knife in right.
- shrednwail, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3I've always used my knife with my left hand. Guess I'm strange.
- bxblox, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3Im left handed so no switching here...
- elTito, on 02/21/2008, -1/+0I've always held the fork upside down with my left hand (i.e. so the tines curve down toward my plate, not up toward the ceiling), knife in my right hand, put the fork into the piece of food I'm going to cut off, cut with my right hand and eaten off of my upside-down fork with my left. Just seems like the most efficient way to do it, I dunno :p.
I believe this is what is known as "continental" style (not sure tho). - DarkPhoen1x, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I generally just put the meat in my mouth with the knife...originally I did it to annoy my mother (yeah I was a stupid kid lol) and now it's just habit XD
- csw1342, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Most everything we do is in poor form, except for shooting and drugs.
- racekarl, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1I always switch my fork and knife before taking a bite. It's much more civilized than the "continental" way, which invariably ends up with the diner leaving their knife hovering over their plate in their right hand looking like a savage guarding their food from other savages.
Plus, it forces you to slow down and eat more deliberately, which is much healthier than shoveling food into your mouth as fast as you can. - VSLOATHE, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I've always kept my fork in my left hand whilst eating, but I am ambidextrous. My wife switches hands (we're from the US). Last weekend, we were in the UK having dinner with some friends, and I noticed she was the only one of us switching her fork from her left to right hand and dropping her cutlery after cutting the meat. I suppose either way is acceptable, but I notice that the vast majority of Americans do drop their knife and use their right hand for their fork after cutting, and it makes you stand out very much as an American if you go to Europe.
P.S. the original continental way involved no spoons whatsoever, so to eat peas or other "loose" food, you would hold your fork upside-down in your left hand, and push the food onto it with your knife in your right hand. - GunnerMcGrath, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1The reason Americans put their knife down and switch hands comes from when the Europeans first came to this continent and shared meals with the native Americans. It was considered a threatening position to hold your knife while eating if you weren't actively using it, so they developed the habit of putting the knife down as soon as they were finished, and then with your good hand free it comes naturally to take the fork with that hand.
I prefer the traditional way of knife in your right hand, fork in your left, and keep it that way unless you need your hands to get some more food or pick up your glass. - DuckofDeath11, on 02/22/2008, -0/+1OH MY GOD!!!!!!!! WHO CARES?!?!?!?!!? WTF DO YOU CARE WHICH HAND I HOLD MY FORK IN? GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
::::::::::::head explodes:::::::::::
- HardSide, on 02/21/2008, -18/+5I've know a lot of people that come from Western European countries that have the same custom.
- edstate, on 02/21/2008, -24/+5More of this in society. Now. Please.
- fatlip, on 02/21/2008, -8/+8you mean less? because if you mean less i totally agree. who the ***** cares how you eat your food?! and who says what's the 'right' way to do things? and why should anyone care? where are my pants?
- cliffzdude, on 02/21/2008, -4/+17Who cares how you eat your food? Potential employers. Ladies. Parents of a lady you will one day wish to marry. People who bathe.
- VinceNoir, on 02/21/2008, -1/+5People who bathe! Hah! That one got the digg from me.
- fatlip, on 02/21/2008, -2/+2you failed to answer my final (and most important) question!
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1You threw them out the window in a fit of passion stating that you'll never need them again?
- cliffzdude, on 02/21/2008, -4/+17Who cares how you eat your food? Potential employers. Ladies. Parents of a lady you will one day wish to marry. People who bathe.
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -6/+3No, and ***** you.
- fatlip, on 02/21/2008, -8/+8you mean less? because if you mean less i totally agree. who the ***** cares how you eat your food?! and who says what's the 'right' way to do things? and why should anyone care? where are my pants?
- noseeme, on 02/21/2008, -13/+5Lol@Silly formalities, like:
"When you’re done with your meal, the proper placement of the silverware is to lay them parallel to each other and across the plate with the handles facing the right. To clarify, the ends would be facing 10 o’clock and four. Note: Not all waiters will know this and they still may ask you if it’s okay to clear your plate. At least you appear classy." - CoronaVegas, on 02/21/2008, -25/+21So if everyone waits until 50% of the party have started to eat, does anyone ever get to eat?
- MillionsLivio, on 02/21/2008, -2/+32They meant 50% of the party has their food.
- fatlip, on 02/21/2008, -2/+11dugg for funny confusion
- VinceNoir, on 02/21/2008, -8/+4OK... Take a large step forward towards the wall. Then take half of that step forward again. Then half of the previous step. Repeat ad infinitum. You will never reach your goal.
- xtc46, on 02/21/2008, -2/+2thats not true at all. If the wall is 6 feet away. You take a large step (say 4 feet) half that is 2 so in two steps you have met your goal. You fail
- VinceNoir, on 02/22/2008, -1/+2Think it through idiot...
4/2 = 2
2/2 = 1
1/2 = .5
etc...
If you keep cutting each unit in half, you'll never reach your goal. You'll only get closer and closer.
- VinceNoir, on 02/22/2008, -1/+2Think it through idiot...
- xtc46, on 02/21/2008, -2/+2thats not true at all. If the wall is 6 feet away. You take a large step (say 4 feet) half that is 2 so in two steps you have met your goal. You fail
- Daiken, on 02/21/2008, -15/+5Nice to know, but not for daily use, unless you live a rich lifestyle.
- rbowes, on 02/21/2008, -4/+6Cutting your food and wiping your mouth is only for rich people? To be honest everything except number 4 seems pretty reasonable for every meal.
- bdbr, on 02/21/2008, -2/+3The bit about when to start eating applies in other situations....when they're all adults, of course.
- cliffzdude, on 02/21/2008, -2/+5Rich lifestyle? Even at the Sizzler class has its place.
- Daiken, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Wow, surprised I got so much negativity. I meant rich lifestyle as eating out daily, not super rich. Family dinners and such, no one will care about all the etiquettes. Even if you're with your friends for a casual meal, no one will care how you butter your bread, or where you put your napkin when you get up from the table.
- zoziw, on 02/21/2008, -2/+39I knew most of these already, I just don't use them. The only real way to eat a bun is to slather it with butter and take a big honkin bite out of it...greasy goodness all the way!!
- Halukard, on 02/21/2008, -1/+63I don't agree with number 8. Your fork is meant to eat food coming from your plate, not to try extracting half-chewed food from your mouth.
- bdbr, on 02/21/2008, -3/+2So what do you do...spit it into your napkin and then later "clean" your face & hands with that napkin? How sanitary is THAT?
- strictnein, on 02/21/2008, -0/+7You wipe your face down with your napkin after you eat?
You place the piece of meat in your napkin and then you fold it in half and set it on your lap. So you still have some lap protection, plus a clean surface to wipe your hands. And anyways... how dirty is your mouth or the food you're eating that you're worried about touching something that you were trying to eat?- bdbr, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Not my entire face, moron, but at least around my mouth. If you don't get why I don't want to wipe my mouth with chewed food, then never mind. I'd recommend you avoid wearing expensive suits if you insist on putting napkins with a bunch of chewed food in your lap, though.
I imagine this habit of spitting food into napkins is probably a result of paper napkins, where the napkins are trash so spitting trash into them is OK.
- bdbr, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Not my entire face, moron, but at least around my mouth. If you don't get why I don't want to wipe my mouth with chewed food, then never mind. I'd recommend you avoid wearing expensive suits if you insist on putting napkins with a bunch of chewed food in your lap, though.
- strictnein, on 02/21/2008, -0/+7You wipe your face down with your napkin after you eat?
- Zipko, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I don't get 7. What if the person to your left wants you to hand them something on the other side of you. Do you have to send it the long way around the table? I understand not reaching across the table to give someone something, but what's with the emphasis on it going counter-clockwise?
- nicko68, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Etiquette is prejudice against the left.
Use your right hand for eating.
Pass everything to the right.
Remember, left is gauche.
- nicko68, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Etiquette is prejudice against the left.
- ryan926, on 02/25/2008, -0/+0I just eat it. If I didn't like it then I'll make a note not to eat the rest.
- bdbr, on 02/21/2008, -3/+2So what do you do...spit it into your napkin and then later "clean" your face & hands with that napkin? How sanitary is THAT?
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -4/+12whip it out
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -0/+19nothing says "manners" like a dick on a plate.
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -8/+47Cut one piece of steak at a time and then switch hands?! That's insane. How does that make you proper, or polite? And why the ***** not cut the whole thing up? How is that tacky? These arbitrary rules make me want to whip it out.
- Authustian, on 02/21/2008, -1/+3I like the recovery there. Good form.
- mike17032, on 02/21/2008, -0/+13Well I wouldnt suggest cutting the whole thing up, it sorta does look bad.
But far more importantly it will keep it warmer and juicier if you dont cut it. I find it best to cut about 1/3rd up at a time depending on how big it is. That way you arnt juggling your ***** silverware around but it still keeps the meat warmer. - campigenus, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2Proper eating is fork in left hand knife in right. The switching only comes into play if you are Muslim ... can't bring food to your mouth with your left hand. At least that's what I was told.
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I hope I'm not talking out of my ass here, but I think during certain time periods, and in certain cultures, being left handed was discouraged for whatever reason, so many people were forced to use their right hand for most tasks.
- DarkPhoen1x, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1That's the most ridiculous religious custom I've ever heard of. Note - not a jab at Muslims, just at religion in general lol
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Well, as long as your offending all religions, and not just one, that's fine!
- saymawa, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1that sorta only works when they are using their hands, no? it's sorta 2 degrees if you bring food to your mouth with a fork in your hand.
- csw1342, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I think that goes for Indians too, but I believe they are a muslim majority state. Pretty sure it has something to do with whiping their ass. But thats all crap I heard and am to lazy to research that and it has no bearing on my daily life.
- nebion, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2India is most certainly not predominantly muslim. It's mostly (80%) Hindu.
That's a seriously stupid mistake. Do you really know nothing about the world?- csw1342, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1"But thats all crap I heard and am to lazy to research, that and it has no bearing on my daily life." Thats a serious not giving a *****
- nebion, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2India is most certainly not predominantly muslim. It's mostly (80%) Hindu.
- cdigioia, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Don't switch hands, the author was wrong. The correct way is the "continental method", whether in the US or Europe. Seriously, I'm a pretentious douchbag, I know these things (and many, many more pretentious douchbag dining rules, actually)
- VSLOATHE, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Yes. He left out the bit about always passing both the salt and pepper when asked for the salt, but when asked for the pepper it is polite to pass only the pepper. The exception being if the individual requesting the salt asks for "just the salt" or something of that nature.
- martelo, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3I agree with switching hands being dumb (I'm a lefty so fork in left hand works fine) but you look like a 4-year-old if you have a plate full of cut up meat in front of you.
- VSLOATHE, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2You don't cut your entire fillet of meat into tiny pieces beforehand for several reasons. The first of which is that you're not 3, so your mum doesn't need to cut your meat into tiny bits for you anymore. The second, and probably best reason, is that your meat will get colder faster if it's all cut up.
- Lixie, on 02/21/2008, -3/+53I eat steak with my bare hands, and I chew the meat off the bone.
- MillionsLivio, on 02/21/2008, -1/+4Tom Cruise?
- rbowes, on 02/21/2008, -0/+14I just got face first into my plate and inhale.
- strictnein, on 02/21/2008, -0/+12Don't forget to suck out the marrow!
- donkeySays, on 02/21/2008, -0/+7When sucking doesn't help, do not hesitate to beat it out on the plate.
- mapkinase, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2Actually I always did it to the spoon until my doctor told me that there is too much cholesterol in it.
- stalefries, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3Make sure to use lots of slurpy noises.
- Aensland, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Slurping is considered polite in many societies (letting your host know you're enjoying it).
- gbro, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5And in other cultures, making noise while eating will make you the target of physical violence, after which your bones will be placed on the plate in a parallel manner to indicate to the waiter that they are ready for incineration.
- Aensland, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Slurping is considered polite in many societies (letting your host know you're enjoying it).
- donkeySays, on 02/21/2008, -0/+7When sucking doesn't help, do not hesitate to beat it out on the plate.
- mllawso, on 02/21/2008, -0/+9It's also proper to growl if anyone gets too close to your plate.
- MrMongoose, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5But make sure to growl without narrowing your eyes, lest you look like a common dog at the dinner table.
- mapkinase, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2I do that when meatbone is still running and steak is making cute sounds.
- nicko68, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Dad, is that you?
- turnthepage, on 02/21/2008, -18/+6We all remember the basics our mothers taught us about table manners–no elbows on the dinner table and don’t talk with your mouth full. But ever wonder which fork to use for your salad or how to signal a waiter at a fancy restaurant? Read on and learn the basics in table manners that will be sure to impress your date, girlfriend/wife’s parents, employers or whomever you dine with.
Table Setting Placement
In formal settings, all the silverware, glassware, cups, saucers and the like are placed on the table, so it’s often difficult to know which fork to use when or which water glass is yours. As a general rule to thumb, silverware is lined up in the order in which a person will use them, going from the outside, in. For instance, the fork and knife used for the salad are placed in the outermost of the setting, farthest from your plate (with the exception of the spoon). Dessert silverware, if not brought out with the dessert, are placed at the top of your entrée plate. Glassware, cup and saucer are placed to your right, while the napkin, bread plate and butter spreader to your left.
10 Table Manner Tips
Now that you know how the table setting is laid out and when to use each, here are 10 tips for the duration of the meal:
1. When dining with six or more, it’s polite to wait till roughly 50% of the table has their food before starting your meal. In smaller groups, wait until the entire table has their food, unless food temperature is at high risk in decreasing the enjoyment of the meal, and/or others at the table incessantly insist you begin.
2. You can and should use your knife to cut large pieces of lettuce or other ingredients in your salad. Nothing is worse than trying to shove a large piece of lettuce in your mouth and having some of it stick out. (No brainer, but this applies to your entrée as well.)
3. The proper way to butter a piece of bread is to rip off a piece that’s about one or two bites in size, butter it, and eat it. Repeat. Never bite straight into a roll, and refrain from cutting it in half and buttering.
4. While cutting meat, the correct way is to cut a piece and then switch your fork to your right hand to pick it up. This method is considered the “American” way. Not switching your fork and using your left is called the “Continental” way, and is done most often in European countries. This way is gaining acceptance and I wouldn’t be surprised if one day soon it’s considered acceptable in fine dining. Also, cut meat a piece at a time. Cutting the entire meat up into pieces or cutting more than one at a time is tacky.
5. Wipe your mouth before taking a sip of your drink. It’s unsightly to see food particles or grease on the rim of your glass. Also, it’s considered rude to take a sip of your drink with your mouth full. Plus, backwash is gross!
6. When leaving the table during the course of your meal, put your napkin on your chair, not the table. No one wants to see your stained napkin. And at the completion of the meal, place it on the left of your plate, or if your plate has been cleared, in the center.
7. When in a situation where you have to pass food or condiments to others at the table, pass it to your right, or counter clockwise. Never do a “boarding house reach” across the table.
8. When you don’t want to swallow a piece of food in your mouth (e.g. a bone or a piece of fat), move the piece to the front of your mouth and use your fork (or spoon if that’s what you were using) to retrieve it from your mouth and into the side of your plate. The only time its okay to use your fingers is when it’s a fish bone.
9. To get the waiter’s attention, the most polite way is to make eye contact. However chances are they are busy and/or are ignoring you. It’s acceptable to raise your hand to head level, just don’t go overboard by raising it way above your head and wave it about.
10. When you’re done with your meal, the proper placement of the silverware is to lay them parallel to each other and across the plate with the handles facing the right. To clarify, the ends would be facing 10 o’clock and four. Note: Not all waiters will know this and they still may ask you if it’s okay to clear your plate. At least you appear classy.
After reading this, you may realize you may not have as good table manners as you thought you did. (It’s okay, it happens to the best of us.) And honestly, I’m not saying these are not the “be all, end all” of table manners, but if you follow these tips, you’ll be a step closer towards proper table etiquette.- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -19/+2
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ploomy.com — We all remember the basics our mothers taught us about table manners
–no elbows on the dinner table and don’t talk with your mouth full. But ever wonder which fork to use for your salad or how to signal a waiter at a fancy restaurant? Read on and learn the basics in table manners that will be sure to impress your date, girlfriend
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Blog It- seantubridy, on 02/21/2008, -1/+7Do you copy the page code of a story and paste it as a comment to that story on digg? ––> Yes. Is your name StupidDumb? ––> Yes. ––> You're a douchebag.
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -3/+1What do I win?
- seantubridy, on 02/21/2008, -1/+7Do you copy the page code of a story and paste it as a comment to that story on digg? ––> Yes. Is your name StupidDumb? ––> Yes. ––> You're a douchebag.
- UnterDenLinden, on 02/21/2008, -1/+7Was that necessary?
- shanemichael, on 02/21/2008, -1/+0***** idiots.
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -19/+2
- morningmatters, on 02/21/2008, -11/+2For everything else, there is always a Mastercard.
- herro, on 02/21/2008, -0/+7not only does this have nothing to do with the article, you somehow misquoted the phrase.
- otis12, on 02/21/2008, -3/+9I recently took a trip to Europe and they use their knife to cut everything. I live in the U.S so of course I use my fork to do everything.
- docbob84, on 02/21/2008, -1/+5I agree with someone who posted above: if you cut your steak with a fork, there is something wrong with your steak, the fork, your arm strength, or some combination of the three.
- mllawso, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1... Maybe the steak's really tender.
Or lightly seared and bloody in the middle, like it should be. - Mitijea, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1What? I'd say it's awesomely right if you can cut your steak with a fork. Are you trying to say that steaks should be tougher than that? I never understood people that want a tough steak. If you want a tough steak, just buy the cheap stuff, don't overcook the expensive stuff.
- Genthree, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1He's not talking about things like steak, but when it's a chicken tender a fork is more than sufficient.
- IveDefected, on 02/21/2008, -0/+0Sometimes even the spoon will suffice.
- mllawso, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1... Maybe the steak's really tender.
- xtc46, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1any and all meat, when cooked properly, should be able to be cut with a fork. Hell, when I cook my ribs picking them up by the bone makes them fall a part. Chicken needs to stay firmer, but can be cut with a fork without any issue, same with steak.
- docbob84, on 02/21/2008, -1/+5I agree with someone who posted above: if you cut your steak with a fork, there is something wrong with your steak, the fork, your arm strength, or some combination of the three.
- StormCommander, on 02/21/2008, -15/+3this is brainwashings
buried - urbanaquarian, on 02/21/2008, -1/+6They're coming from a good place, but some of these are a bit over the top? I'm not going to think less of a guy for switching/not switching his fork from hand to hand (I don't switch, cut with my right hand, fork in left). Not having pieces of food stick out of your mouth and not being obnoxious trying to get the server's attention are very good points though, as is waiting for most of the table to be served before diving in.
- greeniemeani, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1Buried for being inaccurate.
- LastSight, on 02/21/2008, -3/+5have you people noticed that digg has been getting a lot of these top 10 or 10 w/etf *****?
- StormCommander, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2yup
- shanemichael, on 02/21/2008, -2/+3Have you people noticed that you don't have to read any of them, OOOOORRRR anything else, let alone comment on them?
- Elamen, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Hmm, you must be new here... welcome to digg.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2We need a top 10 of the top 10 lists.
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -8/+12I'll tell you, as a waiter, table manners are much appreciated!
- dreicher, on 02/21/2008, -3/+13Awesome...so, if I have good table manners - I may tip you less?
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -4/+9It shows you're well mannered/educated enough, actually have enough money to eat where I work, and might even leave a decent tip. But if you act like an ***** at the table you may just get ignored. This goes for every server I've ever worked with.
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -3/+9As soon as waiters stop ejaculating into my food, I will start tipping.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Don't order the New England Clam Chowder...
Or the Egg Drop Soup
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Don't order the New England Clam Chowder...
- bxblox, on 02/21/2008, -2/+2Eating there shows I have enough money to eat there. Just not enough to tip.
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -2/+2If you don't include tip in your budget for going out to a particular restaurant, then you should either find some place less expensive or just stay home. Servers don't work for free, and the amount of their nightly earnings that THEY have to cough up to the bartender, busboys, food runners, etc. is based off of their sales, not their tips. You leave a 5% tip at some places and your server just paid for the privelege of waiting on you.
- bxblox, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I leave a tip as a courtesy. However, If the restaurant is that expensive and the waiters working at a loss if they don't get 20%, then they are being ripped off by their employer and need a raise or a better job. I am never guilted into giving a tip for bad service., and I give what I believe is deserved, nothing more.
- Inquisition, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I have been a server before, and am therefore a good tipper. If I get bad service I will tip 15% and inform management that I am unhappy with the service. If the service is good, I might tip up to 25%
@davekay86, you need to find a better place to work. Every place I've ever worked, if the tips are pooled to cover the dishroom, it is a percentage of the total amount of tips, not sales. Taxes on your tips, however, are calculated by assuming that you declare tips as income that are equal to at least 8% of your sales.
- nicko68, on 02/21/2008, -1/+3I'd really rather restaurants just raise their prices 15-20% instead of having this stupid tipping thing which is just expected, and no longer represents rewarding for good service.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1As long as you get to knock 15-20% off by complaining to the manager about ***** service..
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -3/+9As soon as waiters stop ejaculating into my food, I will start tipping.
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -4/+9It shows you're well mannered/educated enough, actually have enough money to eat where I work, and might even leave a decent tip. But if you act like an ***** at the table you may just get ignored. This goes for every server I've ever worked with.
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -1/+9You'd get offended if someone cut their steak the wrong way?
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -4/+0Why would anyone get offended by that?
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2Are you trying to trick me?
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1Are you trying just a little too hard to be witty?
- Stupidumb, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I'm not even trying.
- davekay85, on 02/21/2008, -4/+0Why would anyone get offended by that?
- bentrinh, on 02/21/2008, -4/+2I'll tell you, as a customer, those table manners are retarded.
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1maybe at your hoity-toity restaurant, people like paying you to judge them. at restaurants i go to (mmm, diners), i tip my waitress if she's *nice* to me. i try not to make a mess or a lot of noise or overburden her with stupid tasks like bringing me seven different forks. that's my idea of manners.
- dreicher, on 02/21/2008, -3/+13Awesome...so, if I have good table manners - I may tip you less?
- YahtzeeG, on 02/21/2008, -7/+6Only a Guy should know these tips. Women were born knowing about these rules.
- artwork, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1/sarcasm?
- Peko, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2This is a startling revelation. Apparently some of the women I have dated were not born as a woman!
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Next time, check for the Adam's apple before asking her out on a date.
- Pake, on 02/21/2008, -2/+3In Digg fashion, the proper response to this is: "Everyone knows women aren't allowed out the kitchen, so why would they need to know these rules?"
- docbob84, on 02/21/2008, -2/+5Not true, but a common misconception. Women are able to go to the laundry room, other rooms of the house in order to clean and provide sex, and even as far as the grocery store should the need arise (though the inability to drive does sometimes cause problems with this last one).
- artwork, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1/sarcasm?
- kubedawg, on 02/21/2008, -12/+30***** manners. I shall put my elbows on the table if I damn well feel like it. I shall use a salad fork for eating my steak afterwards. Manners are enforced by people who want to control what you do any say. Common sense tells you to not fart/pick your nose at the dinner table, but my biggest irk is people who smack their food with their mouths open. That should be the only table manner, besides those common sense rules that should matter...
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -11/+6I guess when the nicest place you go to is Denny's, nobody cares what manners you follow.
- Pake, on 02/21/2008, -1/+4At least at Denny's, you get a whole meal for $10 instead of a 1/4 of a meal for $50. When someone else is paying though, then and only then is a $50 meal acceptable.
- saranagati, on 02/21/2008, -7/+3maybe if you'd quit being a fat ass you'd realize that you get a full meal for $50 at a nice restaurant and 4 ***** clog your arteries meals at denny's.
- Pake, on 02/21/2008, -1/+5At 5'8" 130lbs, I'm about as far from being a fat ass as possible. Not to mention, all the ***** is the same for the most part. A burger at a pricey restaurant is hardly any more healthy than a burger from a lesser expensive restaurant. All of it is still far less healthy than creating your own meals using dietary guidelines.
- trollhunter, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0@Pake - you go to a pricey restaurant and you order a burger? WTF?
- saranagati, on 02/21/2008, -7/+3maybe if you'd quit being a fat ass you'd realize that you get a full meal for $50 at a nice restaurant and 4 ***** clog your arteries meals at denny's.
- Pake, on 02/21/2008, -1/+4At least at Denny's, you get a whole meal for $10 instead of a 1/4 of a meal for $50. When someone else is paying though, then and only then is a $50 meal acceptable.
- cliffzdude, on 02/21/2008, -5/+7You seem young, once you age you'll realize that like or not, a touch of class goes a long way in many situations. At lunch with a prospective employer for example. There's a reason that many final interviews with the final boss are had at lunch.
Conversational skills. Class. Manners. Yes sir. Thank you. They all go a long way showing a potential employer how you conduct yourself.- diggdiggerid, on 02/21/2008, -3/+11I would kill myself before working for someone like that; that's why I'm self employed. Doesn't pay very well but the freedom to not have to worry about trivial nonsense like the above is worth it many times over.
edit: In retrospect I probably agree with you more than it seems like, obviously having the "basic human interaction" thing like please and thank you and so forth is always useful, but as far as how to cut your food and things like in the article don't make sense.- kubedawg, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I agree completely. I'd much rather work for someone who was laid back, and knew well enough that image isn't everything. It's all about your knowledge and experience, as well as what you can bring to the company that's going to take you places. I mean sure, if you work in TV or some sort of business where your image is important to the company, then go ahead, suck up to them. After all, it's the job of your dreams right? Yes sir, yes maam. It's that kind of mentality that sickens me. Be yourself, always question authority, even if it's in your own meandering mind. It's that type of person where image matters more than personality, more than passion and more than honesty, more than loyalty, more than ***** integrity that brings this world down. I'm not just talking about those few people who nit pick at everything. I'm not just talking about our big brother government who's literally ***** us up the ass these days. I'm talking about people throughout this world who try to make their life mean something by brown nosing, sucking their way up into middle management only to realize they hate their job, social security has no more money to give as you are forced into retirement, your trophy wife divorces you, takes all your money, and you end up sad and lonely until you decide to finally question WHY? Why did things turn out the way they did, why didn't you see this coming? What happened? And then it's too late. The train with all your dreams and aspirations are gone in an instant. LIFE IS TOO ***** SHORT to deal with all this *****.
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -6/+3"The pay is *****, but hey -- at least I don't have to mind my manners at dinner!!!!!" I aspire to be like you, diggdiggerid.
- diggdiggerid, on 02/21/2008, -4/+5Maybe some day you'll even read entire posts instead of the first two sentences.
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -5/+3and maybe some day you'll get off that imaginary high-horse you think you're on because you don't have to call someone 'sir.'
- diggdiggerid, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1shaking people's hands and treating them with respect is exactly on the same level as
"The proper way to butter a piece of bread is to rip off a piece that’s about one or two bites in size, butter it, and eat it. Repeat. Never bite straight into a roll, and refrain from cutting it in half and buttering."
And besides, isn't another rule that cutting food into little pieces is only for children and the mentally disabled?
- diggdiggerid, on 02/21/2008, -4/+5Maybe some day you'll even read entire posts instead of the first two sentences.
- diggdiggerid, on 02/21/2008, -3/+11I would kill myself before working for someone like that; that's why I'm self employed. Doesn't pay very well but the freedom to not have to worry about trivial nonsense like the above is worth it many times over.
- jezkah, on 02/21/2008, -3/+10Manners aren't an attempt to control people; they are an attempt to make your companions feel comfortable. While some rules may seem over the top, refinement and courtesy can do a lot to make an event more smooth and enjoyable.
- docbob84, on 02/21/2008, -3/+6Some manners do, that's true, but some of the ones listed in this article are just arbitrary. The two I can think of off the top of my head are the one about buttering bread and the one about which hand you bring your fork to your mouth with. Why does it matter if one cuts a roll in half before buttering it, as long as they don't try to cram the entire thing down their throat? Why does it matter whether one uses the "American" or the "Continental" method (I am American but use the Continental method, mostly because I have enough hand-eye coordination not to stab myself in the face if I use my non-dominant hand to bring something toward my mouth). Saying these and many other rules are made to control you is a sign of paranoia, and the person probably stocks up frequently on tinfoil. But saying they make you more refined or make a meal more enjoyable is also somewhat silly.
- elTito, on 02/21/2008, -1/+0They are sorta arbitrary, but if everyone knows the rules - arbitrary or not - then nobody will have those little moments where you do something wrong and you feel like everyone is looking at you and giggling to themselves because you do the wrong thing thus making you feel like a lout and ruining your entire evening. The whole point of manners, in essence, is to ensure that everyone enjoys themselves and doesn't have to fret over the small stuff.
This isn't a foreign concept. Driving on the right or left side of the road is arbitrary. Red meaning "stop" and green meaning "go" is arbitrary. The radiation and biohazard symbols are arbitrary. These little arbitrary rules are everywhere if you really think about it, but as long as everybody understands what the arbitrary rule means things go a lot smoother, right? It is the same principle with table manners.- nicko68, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1These things are only "wrong" because some rules says it's wrong. What is intrinsically more right about taking a small piece of bread and buttering it vs. cutting a roll in half and buttering it?
- elTito, on 02/21/2008, -0/+0There is usually some basis in either practicality or respect to religion, normally lost on us in modern times. Many rules of etiquette are vestigial and based more in legacy than in practicality, even though there was probably some good reason when the "rule" came about.
Perhaps cutting bread, for example, smashed it with the cutlery of the day (no serrated bread knives to my knowledge) and the texture that the host/hostess worked so hard to attain for you to enjoy was smashed and ruined. Breaking the bread showed that you appreciated the fact that so much care had gone into making good bread and cared enough not to smash it.
(I don't know if this is the reason...just an example of how it could have gone).
- elTito, on 02/21/2008, -1/+0They are sorta arbitrary, but if everyone knows the rules - arbitrary or not - then nobody will have those little moments where you do something wrong and you feel like everyone is looking at you and giggling to themselves because you do the wrong thing thus making you feel like a lout and ruining your entire evening. The whole point of manners, in essence, is to ensure that everyone enjoys themselves and doesn't have to fret over the small stuff.
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1i know! i just destroyed the last dinner party i attended when i ate with the wrong hand. i'll never live down the shame.
- docbob84, on 02/21/2008, -3/+6Some manners do, that's true, but some of the ones listed in this article are just arbitrary. The two I can think of off the top of my head are the one about buttering bread and the one about which hand you bring your fork to your mouth with. Why does it matter if one cuts a roll in half before buttering it, as long as they don't try to cram the entire thing down their throat? Why does it matter whether one uses the "American" or the "Continental" method (I am American but use the Continental method, mostly because I have enough hand-eye coordination not to stab myself in the face if I use my non-dominant hand to bring something toward my mouth). Saying these and many other rules are made to control you is a sign of paranoia, and the person probably stocks up frequently on tinfoil. But saying they make you more refined or make a meal more enjoyable is also somewhat silly.
- amiches, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3Keep raging against the machine, dude.
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -11/+6I guess when the nicest place you go to is Denny's, nobody cares what manners you follow.
- hansolo007, on 02/21/2008, -0/+8"The proper way to butter a piece of bread is to rip off a piece that’s about one or two bites in size, butter it, and eat it. Repeat. Never bite straight into a roll, and refrain from cutting it in half and buttering."
So THAT'S what I've been doing wrong my whole life.
Thanks MSBautista. - InfinitySnatch, on 02/21/2008, -7/+31"While cutting meat, the correct way is to cut a piece and then switch your fork to your right hand to pick it up. This method is considered the “American” way. Not switching your fork and using your left is called the “Continental” way, and is done most often in European countries. This way is gaining acceptance and I wouldn’t be surprised if one day soon it’s considered acceptable in fine dining."
Are you kidding me? Who the ***** cares?- JackHarkness, on 02/21/2008, -2/+18I'd be surprised if the "American way" was considered acceptable in fine dinning.
- Fracture98, on 02/21/2008, -2/+7It's not known as the "American way". It's known as "eating like a ***** barbarian". Learn to use a knife and fork.
- InfinitySnatch, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4Well I always use a fork with my left hand anyway because I'm left handed and that's just how I roll. So what now, BIATCH.
- JackHarkness, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4Personally, and to all but the snobbiest of snobs, I don't think it matters which hand you have the knife or fork in(Personally I swap depending on which side of the meat I want to cut.). It's the swapping it over thing that would erk me
- Fracture98, on 02/21/2008, -2/+7It's not known as the "American way". It's known as "eating like a ***** barbarian". Learn to use a knife and fork.
- sleeknerve, on 02/21/2008, -2/+3your girlfriend/boss
- Kallahan, on 02/21/2008, -2/+1Or if you have any brains, you ex girlfrend and your ***** ex boss.
- DuckofDeath11, on 02/22/2008, -0/+1If a girlfriend cares about this, GET OUT, RUN!!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!!
- duality, on 02/21/2008, -2/+5"Are you kidding me? Who the ***** cares?"
Obviously you do, otherwise you wouldn't have gone to the trouble to read the article, copy a quote out of it, go to this discussion page, paste the copied quote into syntactically correct punctuation marks, and follow it up with a one-line comment containing an expletive. - novask, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Are you kidding me? They wouldn't let me in this one nice restaurant once because I was wearing shorts. Never mind the fact that it was over 100 degrees outside, but I never even knew they had dress codes. The waiter at the entrance told me to either go home and change into a suit or go somewhere else.
- gbro, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4The classy thing to do would be to tape newspaper to your legs.
- Mrlncognito, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1HA.
- JackHarkness, on 02/21/2008, -2/+18I'd be surprised if the "American way" was considered acceptable in fine dinning.
- gooovil, on 02/21/2008, -8/+1^_^ I have a friend who swallowed a butter ball before. Oh... Hey you! What's up dude lolz...
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4That was just stupid.
- diggdiggerid, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2what
- bxblox, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2eh?
- seantubridy, on 02/21/2008, -2/+7Is it polite to motorboat my date during a meal? Oh dear, I'm sorry. That was tacky.
- elam82, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Only if you say please, thank you, and hold your pinky out.
- mrNesbitt, on 02/21/2008, -1/+55I propose a different number 1:
CHEW WITH YOUR DAMN MOUTH CLOSED.
/petpeeve- atbnet, on 02/21/2008, -0/+8Mine too. I could slap some people who chew their food like an animal.
- encrypter, on 02/21/2008, -2/+3Aren't we animals?
- xutopia, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I think he meant savage animals.
- unorginalityftw, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2"I think he meant savage animals."
...er...
- mapkinase, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I suspect animals doing silently, not to attract attention of competition.
- encrypter, on 02/21/2008, -2/+3Aren't we animals?
- lindasue, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Amen!
Otherwise, I like these tips. Good things to know for both males and females. - Elranzer, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2It seems to be really popular in the northeast (especially New York) to chew with your mouth open. Can anyone elsewhere attest if it's the norm to chew with your mouth closed? I'm looking to move somewhere more civilized.
- gbro, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2In my experience, people of asian ethnicity seem to chew with their mouth open more than other ethnic groups.
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2this is a cultural thing. i've worked with two chinese people who ate loudly with their mouths open. they'd have a conversation the whole time, too. very friendly; didn't realize there was anything weird going on.
i don't buy into all this etiquette crap, and i realize that it's just my own cultural programming talking, but i have to admit people eating with their mouth open bothers me a lot. i wonder if there are things americans do that are that, um, horrifying.
- atbnet, on 02/21/2008, -0/+8Mine too. I could slap some people who chew their food like an animal.
- Maynza, on 02/21/2008, -3/+14"While cutting meat, the correct way is to cut a piece and then switch your fork to your right hand to pick it up. This method is considered the “American” way. Not switching your fork and using your left is called the “Continental” way, and is done most often in European countries. This way is gaining acceptance and I wouldn’t be surprised if one day soon it’s considered acceptable in fine dining."
What kind of ***** is that. If anyone has any problem with the hand i hold my ***** fork with they can piss off.
edit: Hah InfinitySnatch was thinking the same thing. - captZEEbo, on 02/21/2008, -3/+4waiting for others to be served is a stupid etiquette rule.
cutting lettuce with a knife...just fold it in half with the fork.
switching forks in a hand wastes time.- MrMongoose, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3Waiting to eat isn't stupid, otherwise people who don't have their food have to sit there hungry while they watch others enjoying their meals. I agree with you on the other points.
- ozataman, on 02/21/2008, -3/+10The continental way of keeping the fork in the left hand is considered the correct and 'fine' way even in the U.S. While this is not what most American families practice and teach to their kids, it is what you want to do when you set off to impress your international partner company's executive officer. In fact, if you ever attend an 'etiquette' workshop, that is one of the first things they will instruct you to do.
- gak001, on 02/21/2008, -0/+10We had a professional polish and etiquette seminar and they covered this and several dozen other things, but I think this sums up the practical parts pretty proficiently. I personally prefer the continental style and everyone else be damned - the American style is inefficient and cumbersome. One thing that's useful is if you're passing the Salt and Pepper, always pass both of them and hold them by the bottom.
- Buavesy, on 02/21/2008, -1/+0Completely agree with you.
- Pake, on 02/21/2008, -4/+1Not cutting the meat all at one time is completely inefficient as well when you think about it.
- bxblox, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Not really, its the same amount of effort.
- MrMongoose, on 02/21/2008, -1/+0Not if you cut with your right, then switch the fork to eat with your right like I do. Constantly switching would drive me nuts, so I just cut it all at once and be done with it.
- Gizza, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3If you're not swapping hands all the time it's not much more inefficient. And besides, cutting your meat all at once will result in it going cold much quicker.
- gak001, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Not really... and you end up looking like you're 10 years old.
- bxblox, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Not really, its the same amount of effort.
- DuckofDeath11, on 02/22/2008, -0/+1If I ask some one for the salt and they hand me the salt and pepper, I will throw the pepper over my shoulder. You've been warned.
- uziko, on 02/21/2008, -2/+2according to who?
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -3/+4Society. Much like you refrain from ***** in the sink.
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2yes. using the wrong fork is akin to ***** in the sink. right.
- steelclash84, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2According to whom?*
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -3/+4Society. Much like you refrain from ***** in the sink.
- dvsbastard, on 02/21/2008, -0/+16I find it difficult to impress any of my dates with these tips while using the McDonalds Drive Thru...
That *could* explain why I don't get many dates...- Aensland, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1You don't get any tableware at drive thrus...
- SeligErasmus, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3Yes Ted, that was the joke.
- Aensland, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1You don't get any tableware at drive thrus...
- Dundasbro, on 02/21/2008, -0/+31I just eat out of a trough.
- 2ndEdition, on 02/21/2008, -8/+6***** this
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -3/+16This is all trivial *****, what bothers the hell out of me (and T. Soprano) is douchebags wearing their baseball caps at the table. I wear a cap frequently, but I always take it off when I'm out to dinner.
- bdbr, on 02/21/2008, -8/+34Civilization doesn't appear to be very popular around here.
- unorginalityftw, on 02/21/2008, -4/+6Civilization constitutes a lot of redundant and overly useless things.
- makkaveli19, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3yea like clothes. i ***** hate clothes
- TnTBass, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2On the contrary, I love civilization. Civ 4 was by far the best iteration of the game yet. :P
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2civilization is being able to apply advanced knowledge. this ***** is not advanced. it's regressive.
- mahdaeng, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2Yeah, because eating a can of Spaghetti-O's standing over the sink in your unwashed underwear is so progressive.
- unorginalityftw, on 02/21/2008, -4/+6Civilization constitutes a lot of redundant and overly useless things.
- kirab, on 02/21/2008, -8/+9***** that *****!
- duality, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1This is too perfect to resist: http://www.opendonor.org/kwotes.pl?action=show&id= ...
- Gman311, on 02/21/2008, -6/+2maybe just a little OVERKILL
- campigenus, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Or maybe not? Well, depending on how civilized you are, I guess.
- purplehaze420, on 02/21/2008, -6/+2Funny how at the bottom of the article it has a link to "digg this article" but its to a dupe.... http://digg.com/food_drink/Table_Manner_Tips_Every ...
- VeganG, on 02/21/2008, -2/+3Some etiquette stuff makes sense and some of it is just some guy thinking up the "correct" way to do something, for no good reason.
- mahdaeng, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I see you've studied this topic out quite thoroughly.
- Yeabudy, on 02/21/2008, -2/+3Also important is after finishing, placing the fork upside-down (prongs facing the place) also signifies that you are finished with your plate.
- alphatally, on 02/21/2008, -1/+2but the spoon should be placed bowl up to signify a finished course
- queenstarsha, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1and of course, inverting your filled water glass is an excellent way to gently signal that you don't want your water.
- diggdiggerid, on 02/21/2008, -2/+19There is a difference between having proper manners and doing things just to feel like an elitist prick. As long as food isn't being spittled out of your mouth, you're not standing on top of the table and generally not annoying me in any way I don't see a problem with holding your fork in a different position than I do.
- mahdaeng, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1There's also a difference between "doing things just to feel like an elitist prick" and doing things out of respect and courtesy. I don't care how you hold your fork either, as long as you're showing respect to everyone else at the table. If you are unable to do so, I recommend eating alone.
- anononon, on 02/21/2008, -15/+6What a load of conformist crap.
Btw, is it considered bad manners to let a fart out so loud at the dinner table that it rips a hole through your drawers because I'm known to do that on occasion regardless of company. After all, a fart is a bodily function, just like your heart beating and you wouldn't stop your heart from beating for the sake of manners, would you?- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -1/+9'conformist crap' what are you, that emo kid from south park mixed with Larry the Cable Guy-esque humour?
- shanemichael, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5No *****..
"let's be cool.. let's be slobs in a classy joint, that will teach them commies."
- shanemichael, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5No *****..
- Fire4Effect, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5No, just makes you a ***** slob.....enjoy your Denny's.
- kestermatsumoto, on 02/21/2008, -0/+6Wow I bet the ladies are just queuing up
- trollhunter, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0Boldily functions are not manners per se. There's ***** you can do about them.You acknowledge your fart and you apologize for it. We all fart but only the truly self accepting people among us accept this fact with grace and don't get all defensive about it. Keep flipping those burgers, kid.
- mhender, on 02/21/2008, -1/+9'conformist crap' what are you, that emo kid from south park mixed with Larry the Cable Guy-esque humour?
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