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- fury420, on 05/03/2009, -0/+33umm.... how the hell do you do a comparison on ways of cooking vegetables and leave out steaming, yet include pressure cooking?
otherwise an interesting study, but wtf... there is a massive difference between boiling/pressure cooking and steaming vegetables - johndi, on 05/03/2009, -1/+28Microwaved and boiled veggies both taste off to me. I prefer stir fried with a little bit of olive oil.
- mickeylaspalmas, on 05/03/2009, -0/+17nothing says "tasty gravy" like a spoonful of lukewarm broccoli water.
- joegibes, on 05/03/2009, -1/+17So to cook my plastic containers I should boil or steam them before eating instead?
- AriaStar, on 05/03/2009, -1/+17As long as I can get my potatoes with melted cheddar faster, microwaving sounds good to me.
- Tarkaan, on 05/03/2009, -0/+14Duh. Unless you're drinking the boil water, all the vitamins get lost. Next time you're at the store, buy some broccoli and some microwave containers and get cooking!
- Richandler, on 05/03/2009, -5/+19Plastic and microwave just means you are introducing a new toxin into your body in the form of plastic.
- jpie05, on 05/03/2009, -0/+14Steam them!
- Propethic, on 05/03/2009, -1/+15Yup. Sure.
http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp - woofers07, on 05/03/2009, -1/+12You know what else makes veggies taste good? Sauteed with lots of butter, melted cheese and bacon.
- blakbot, on 05/03/2009, -7/+17i cant believe nuking anything is better 4 u; quick steam instead.
- onegoodsoul, on 05/03/2009, -0/+7Funded by the International Microwave Oven Manufacturer Association...
Just kidding - BoneheadFarker, on 05/03/2009, -2/+9Why not just use the water for gravy instead?
- noumuon, on 05/03/2009, -0/+7no no no. you cook the bacon first, then fry the vegetables in the bacon grease. nothing makes veggies more delicious, and presumably healthier, than frying them in liquefied bacon fat.
- primarysuspect, on 05/03/2009, -0/+6Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica
- av4rice, on 05/03/2009, -0/+6Don't worry, it'll all work out once I eat you.
- Rivetgeek, on 05/03/2009, -4/+9Jesus Christ, its 2009 and there are still idiots that don't understand the difference between microwave and ionizing radiation?
Hey genius, fire is radiation too. So is light, and radio waves, and heat from steam.
LRN2SCIENCE - LordVance, on 05/03/2009, -0/+5@mickey - for some reason that made me laugh incredibly loud. My boss shot me the good old "I know you aren't working, jackass" look. Thanks :(
- DarkHornet, on 05/03/2009, -0/+4There are other ways to gain antioxidants, anyway. Microwaving, in many cases, ruins the taste of the food for me. That's why I use it sparingly.
- thebeginning, on 05/04/2009, -0/+4Steaming > both boiling and microwaving.
- 1smartguy, on 05/03/2009, -0/+4I'm partial to steaming or baking myself.
- Iwantawii, on 05/03/2009, -0/+3I feel this space is the best place for me to express my appreciation for the toaster oven.
- sjbdallas, on 05/03/2009, -3/+6I use those ziploc steam bags to microwave vegetables and they come out great. Faster and much preferred to boiling, or even steaming with boiling water.
- copypastry, on 05/03/2009, -0/+3cool story lonelytylenol, good thing it hasn't been circulating around the internets since the 1990s.
- MrFunStuff, on 05/04/2009, -0/+2Could not find link to that study. but here are info on similar studies.
The Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture in 2003 found that broccoli cooked by microwave — and immersed in water — loses about 74 percent to 97 percent of its antioxidants. When steamed or cooked without water, the broccoli retained most of its nutrients.
Effects of Microwave Heating on the Loss of Vitamin B12 in Foods
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf970670x
Microwaving destroys nutrients, study finds
http://www.ontariotenants.ca/health/articles/2003/ ... - AdmiralHalsey, on 05/04/2009, -1/+3I've no citations, but I learned in biology that microwaving denatures the foods proteins/amino acids, making otherwise nutrititional protein useless. Not saying it's a hardcore fact, but I do think it's accepted that denatured protein is useless, and microwaves (among other things) denature the proteins in your food.
- MrRtd, on 05/04/2009, -0/+2I thought that this was already common knowledge.
Anyway I prefer to steam my veggies, and just use the microwave for popcorn & reheating - Atario, on 05/04/2009, -1/+3When you hear the concept of "toxins in your body", it's an immediate red flag that you're probably listening to *****.
- doctorcaligari, on 05/04/2009, -0/+2What else can be reanimated in the microwave? Could I say... put a 7ft-tall corpse that has been sewn together in there? Would it work? I thought I needed lightning, not microwaves. Is it OK to leave in his neck bolts?
- LonelyTylenoL, on 05/03/2009, -1/+3I made no conclusions that you made from this experiment. AND I also never told you to make any. All I said is that the only things the experiment showed is that microwaving water and giving it to plants has an adverse effect compared to tap, boiled, and purified water.
So grow up and learn what a science experiment's purpose is - to present data, and make educated hypotheses based on the data, which may or may not be true. - LonelyTylenoL, on 05/03/2009, -6/+8As much as I like microwaving things, because it's so efficient, I would like to point out something strange.
About a year ago, I was doing a science fair project. Next to me another person did a project on how different types of water affected plant growth differently. The student kept very tight controls and the only variable was that one plant was given tap water, another boiled, another purified water, and another microwaved water.
Now obviously, before each plant was given the water, it was first cooled to room temp. The results were very strange. The most noted being the plant given microwaved water died only a few days into the experiment. I believe the experiment was repeated again with the same controls and variables but with different plants of the same variety, still harboring the same results.
I don't know what to say about the results, but it leaves me a bit worried. - Vivifyer, on 05/04/2009, -0/+2no mention of steaming? I bet they just boiled the ***** outta of the vegies like most people make the mistake of doing.. they are spose to be crisp.. and steaming does that better than both ways. 1 - 2 minutes, nice a crisp..
- doctorcaligari, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Free radicals! And to think, all of these years, I have been paying top dollar for mine!
- Philbert, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Nope Omaha.
- caoimhinn, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1https://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0 ...
Here's an interesting Harvard article on microwave plastic/food safety. In short, and this is really no surprise, they say that containers marked as microwave-safe are labeled as such by the FDA and are, in fact, safe to use in the microwave without danger of plastic chemicals leeching into the food. - xutopia, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1From experience people will eat more veggies if they taste good. Doesn't matter how you cook them as long as you make it good.
- Niocan, on 05/03/2009, -1/+2It's not a matter of instantly dieing off or not, it's how much nutrients (Solids) and it's conductivity that are effected by microwaving. Steaming (and as a side note distilling water to purify it) is the best way to go, but ultimately it's your choice as to how healthy you want your water :).
- LordVance, on 05/03/2009, -0/+1,
- thebananahouse, on 05/06/2009, -0/+1that's why soup is great!
- funkytaco, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1my family still doesn't believe boiling saps the vitamins.... fml.
- Philbert, on 05/03/2009, -0/+1Why not both?
- copypastry, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Hey AH let me clear up a couple misconceptions.
a) You cannot denature an amino acid. You can however denature a protein (a long chain of amino acids).
b) Cooking denatures proteins, period. Doesn't matter what method you choose. eg: frying an egg turns the egg white opaque.
c) When you digest food, you are separating protein into free amino acids. We have special enzymes whose job it is to do just that.
d) A denatured protein is useless for its original function. That's ok because all your body cares about is getting the constituent amino acids. - imkidred, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Preserving antioxidants while destroying most of the vitamins and minerals?
- LonelyTylenoL, on 05/03/2009, -1/+2Maybe, maybe not.
But I undugg you actually because I misread the page you posted and it makes more sense now.
The physics makes more sense. - oenoneablaze, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1mmm... I concur, but I usually replace the veggies in that recipe with eggs. healthy and delicious!
- dsmx, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Why not cook the bacon in butter then take the bacon away and cook the vegetables in the grease left over in the pan. Then wrap the vegetables in cheese then put the bacon around it. Throw the whole lot back in the pan to melt the cheese and warm the bacon up again.
- fuzzynyanko, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Why not wrap the vegetables in bacon?
- copypastry, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Hi MrFunStuff, thanks for giving me the citations. I read the article by F Vallejo, FA Tomas-Barberan and C Garcia-Viguera entitled "Phenolic compound contents in edible parts of broccoli inflorescences after domestic cooking".
Everything looks pretty cut and dry, but "loss" and "destruction" are not the same thing. While the researchers couldn't recover nearly as much flavonoids from the microwaved sample versus any of the others, they posit in their discussion that this is because of rapid evaporation of the cooking water, not necessarily chemical "destruction" of the molecules.
So although microwaving might not be the optimal cooking technique for all foods, it is certainly not worthy of being demonized as some sort of vitamin destroying machine. Truth be told I generally avoid the microwave other than for reheating, not out of a concern for nutrient value, but because old-school cooking methods offer a lot more direct control, and are more "fun".
As is the case with many scientific studies, the media grabs one or two factoids and runs with them. - doctorcaligari, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Pffftt... toaster oven...microwave. Sissies. The only true way to cook is over a rock heated by the sun. Heats your steak from raw to rare in 6-8 hours.
- copypastry, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Are they manufactured in Cleveland?
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