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- nomadofthehills, on 12/08/2008, -3/+8320 bucks says his weight loss was not from cutting out meat until 6, but rather the cutting of processed carbohydrates and simple sugars.
- ninjadave, on 12/08/2008, -12/+65Yeah, if I eat like that, I'll murder someone by 3 pm.
- sanguinekane, on 12/08/2008, -3/+50Eating a more healthy diet isn't synonymous with a certain political perspective. Hitler was an almost vegetarian, only eating meat very rarely, believing he could alleviate his health problems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adol ... - ac2u, on 12/08/2008, -0/+39...and eat them
- daivos, on 12/08/2008, -11/+44I wonder why I have a feeling that all the negative posts are coming from fat people?
- LogicBomB, on 12/08/2008, -1/+33My drinking problem supercedes my dietary issues.
Hard to say "I need more leafy greens" after a weekend of dedicated binge drinking. - UnFriendlyFire, on 12/08/2008, -14/+43Synopsis: Eat less meat and more produce.
(When did RD go liberal hippie?) - metr1s, on 12/08/2008, -1/+27real busy people will be too busy to read this
- rysky, on 12/08/2008, -5/+28Hooray for Mark Bittman! As a vegetarian nutrition student who chooses her diet more for sustainability and health benefits than for animal rights, I just love reading articles like this. Small changes in your diet, as he recommends, can have enormous positive impacts on your saturated fat and cholesterol intake; if you care about such things, you'll also be supporting a healthier environment.
For the record, his cookbooks are excellent too. I've never felt "deprived" after cooking a vegetarian meal out of them. - Shakermaker, on 12/08/2008, -2/+24Common sense? Eat a small breakfast, nothing but vegetables all day, and eat whatever you want for dinner?
Doesn't sound like common sense to me... - nomadofthehills, on 12/08/2008, -2/+20Really? Do you know anything about High Fructose Corn Syrup? I doubt you do.
- elduquex26x, on 12/08/2008, -0/+13This isn't reality?
- cluckcluck, on 12/08/2008, -0/+12Maybe they're reaching the conclusion that someday people are going to have to re-think the way they eat and change to more sustainable habits. Shipping frozen chicken to China in order to have it chopped up cheaply only to be sent back to the U.S. doesn't make much sense, but things like that are the norm. Switching to a less industrialized way of eating and focusing on local and organic makes sense, but Americans like their food fast and cheap, which isn't conducive to sustainability or health.
- atsmith, on 12/08/2008, -6/+18Good Ideas...but don't forget to try to eat Healthy Organic, Non-GMO (local) Foods too!
- christor, on 12/08/2008, -2/+14I'm really confused about this kind of comment, which appears in abundance after stories like these. Why exactly do people feel a need to go out of their way to make clear how little they care about about the external costs of their behavior? I understand that this is what makes solving problems like climate change difficult (that is, that individual choices are economically distorted because while getting all the benefits of a certain activity, people don't have to pay all the costs). But I don't understand the point of broadcasting how little you care about these costs.
Maybe you don't think global warming is happening. But that's different from not "giv[ing] a ***** about global warming." Maybe you think cows are so different from people that their suffering counts for nothing. Most people probably understand that cows can suffer, but they believe on balance that cows' suffering is outweighed by the benefits to people of raising them for food - and perhaps by the benefits to the animal of having been alive at all. (I'm not at all sure this is correct, especially when you consider all of the other externalities involved in meat production.) There's no way to quantify that "suffering calculation." All we could possibly do would be to understand as well as possible exactly how cows suffer, and then we'd have to decide individually and as a moral matter whether we think it's justified.
What I do not understand are people who say they just don't care *at all* about cows' or other animals' suffering. That seems to me to involve a truly weird view of human exceptionalism (a nearly religious one) or a level of callousness that I had thought only a tiny fraction of humanity possessed. - tonberryqueen, on 12/08/2008, -1/+13He never said he starved himself. He said he held off on meat, dairy, junk, and refined carbs. That leaves plenty of options, especially if he's cooking for himself. When you cook from scratch and eat fresh things like nuts for snacks, instead of buying pre-made stuff in the store, you can actually stick to this pretty easily and not feel hungry.
- seltaeb4, on 12/08/2008, -0/+12Probably when they realized that articles entitled "I am Joe's Pancreas" weren't catching on with anyone under 70.
- christor, on 12/08/2008, -1/+12I don't disagree with you in principle Mike. But across a large range of behaviors humans have trouble with moderation. Not everyone has moderation problems in any particular domain, but a bunch of folks do. And so some people need to create rules or regimes for themselves that help them moderate. The trouble is that most diets don't create workable rule sets - meaning rules that have a good chance of still being operative years out. (Paul Campos has written about the destructive effects of dieting - worth a look.) I have no idea whether this one would work or not for many people, or maybe even do more harm than good. But it's not *necessarily* lame simply because it seems arbitrary.
- DWillms, on 12/08/2008, -1/+12Pretty common sense article, but good advice. I've changed my eating habits over the last two months to something similar (no pop, no bad snacks, good whole grain breads) I don't go binge eating at 6pm, but I still eat burgers, chicken wings, bbq, etc for supper, and I've lost about 20 lbs so far, and I wasn't super overweight before either.
Now, to figure out how to fit in some exercise time... - jrm71588, on 12/08/2008, -7/+18Much more helpful than that eating guide for fake people. That was terrible
- rysky, on 12/08/2008, -0/+10The molecular structure and concentration of high fructose corn syrup promotes sugar conversion to fat -- lipidosis -- at higher levels than other carbohydrate sweeteners of the same volume. Furthermore, the volumes of HFCS added to sweets are completely out of moderation -- the very overconsumption that you note in your comment.
- rysky, on 12/08/2008, -0/+10A giant bowl of whole-grain cereal with fruit and soymilk follows Bittman's diet and should do the trick. So does a whole grain bagel with peanut butter and some fruit on the side. If you're not into sweet things for breakfast, I like to make a batch of hummus and slather it on toast. Soymilk, peanut butter, and hummus are protein powerhouses that will help keep you full longer as they are digested slowly and will stabilize blood sugar. Whole grains provide complex carbohydrates that also break down slowly, allowing for consistent energy use without blood sugar spikes and corresponding drops that provoke cravings. The fruit provides additional vitamins and fiber, filling you up without adding additional calories.
An additional benefit of vegetarian eating that is often overlooked is that people who want to eat large volumes to feel full are actually encouraged to do so on a vegetarian diet -- vegetarian choices are often nutrient dense, but not calorie dense, allowing you to eat a larger volume. On the diet analyses I perform on myself as part of my coursework I often find that I actually need to add more calories to my diet because of this principle. As such, you can definitely add appropriate portions of whatever treat you like and not feel guilty. My personal choice is high-fat dairy products like ice cream sundaes and mac & cheese.
That said, what I really support is not complete veganism -- which Bittman does not advocate either, and has serious nutritional deficiencies. What I applaud in this article is the logical and personal reevaluation of one's diet.
Yogurt and granola is always a great choice for breakfast or a snack. It includes the same principles of the suggestions I made above -- complex carbohydrates and protein combined. Yogurt in particular is an excellent protein source, providing calcium, vitamin B12, vitamin D, and gut-regulating lactobacilli; it is low in saturated fat and cholesterol if you choose fat-free or low-fat yogurt. You're already doing a good job, just pay attention to the kind of granola you buy -- some that pass themselves off as healthy are loaded with the sugar you may be trying to avoid. - brb1031, on 12/08/2008, -0/+10I used to feel like that when I stopped eating meat twice a day. I've had the restraint not to murder anyone, so far.
- MikeFallopian, on 12/08/2008, -10/+19Lame. No meat before 6:00 is arbitrary and stupid. The real key to health is moderation, not following some logically-impaired and restrictive eating schedule.
- aronmalkine, on 12/08/2008, -0/+9I printed out this article and tried it. Wasn't very good, tastes like paper.
- tonberryqueen, on 12/08/2008, -0/+9But I imagine that the massive reduction in his cholesterol level that he covered might have had something to do with his decreased meat intake.
This wasn't just about him losing weight. It was also about improving his overall health. - s73v3r, on 12/08/2008, -0/+8Actually, I think the problem is that people stopped being taught how to eat properly. Or they stopped caring to learn.
- Elranzer, on 12/08/2008, -5/+12An English sentence consists of a noun and a verb, usually with direct and indirect objects, peppered with adverbs and with proper punctuation in between.
- GrigoriSom, on 12/08/2008, -1/+8Yeah, and it would be great if it were actually taught in 1st grade... but it isn't.
- ang48137, on 12/08/2008, -1/+7I think the point of the article was not to promote vegetarianism, but to say "eat more unprocessed foods". Eating less processed and prepared meats does the same thing - sashimi is healthier than fish filet.
- nonsequitor, on 12/08/2008, -0/+6Who dugg the parent down? Someone's sarcasm meter needs recalibration.
- twertyto, on 12/08/2008, -0/+6I disagree with the guy's plan but if it works for him great. It might not work for others and can be discouraging. Diet isn't complicated.
You simply need to burn more calories than you comsume in a day. The comsuming should come from nutritious sources and the burning should be more than routine activities (i.e. should involve some exercise).
Now how you do that is up to you.
All the diets that have come and gone in recent years ALWAYS boil down to the above. That's the only reason they work. Some fit your personality better and others don't. That's the motivation and why certain diets work for some and not for others....This story is a good example of this. - BoneheadFarker, on 12/08/2008, -1/+7He also had syphilis that he blamed on a Jewish whore he once visited, which has been theorized to have started his campaign against Jews. So it's kinda hard to take him seriously.
- Br3ach, on 12/08/2008, -0/+6Even just the raw booze is loaded with empty calories, cutting out the mixer wont help that much
- bribwk55, on 12/08/2008, -0/+6give me a list, I don't have time for this.
- aladrin, on 12/08/2008, -2/+8I've been losing weight lately and I attribute it to one thing: Eating when I'm hungry (and not eating when I'm not hungry) and eating what my body asks for. I don't allow others to pick my meals. If I crave something in particular, that's what I eat. And lastly, I eat enough to feel full at the end of that meal, rather than trying to pack enough in to keep me feeling full for a while.
Why does this work? If you crave something, it means you body needs something in that food. Eating other things will cause your body to store fat while it waits for what it needs to keep digesting what it has.
And of course, not eating as much is obvious. I used to eat a heaping plate of spaghetti. Now I eat the same amount of meat and sauce, but 1/5th as much noodles.
I was eating so much spaghetti because my body wanted the meat. The noodles were just along for the ride. - GrigoriSom, on 12/08/2008, -1/+7There's hardly anything "natural" about most of the meat eaten in the US today.
And, you're protesting WHAT, exactly? That someone expressed an opinion you don't share? No one's telling you to do anything. - gr00, on 12/08/2008, -0/+5Hit the gym.
I've had a 'stupid high metabolism' my whole life - it slowed a bit, marginally, now that I'm in my early 30s but I weigh about 15 pounds more today than a year ago simply due to weight training twice a week. Muscle weighs more than fat and the workout stimulates your appetite. I can feel it now when I'm a pound or two less from not eating as much a couple of days prior - it's crazy -- it's one of my motivators to keep going to the gym!
Stay away from creatine and have a whey powder protein shake occasionally and you'll be thanking me later. Do it this week! No excuses! (& don't wait for a 'new years resolution') - askantik, on 12/09/2008, -0/+5lol, bud, the only one who sounds kooky is you. You have no real argument, you just sound like an ignorant, indoctrinated uh, what's the word? Oh yeah, a noob. -.-
Gorillas live on a totally herbivorous diet and are one of our closest living relatives. The very closest living relatives we have, the chimpanzee, eats about 95% fruit, leaves, etc. and the bonobo is a frugivore. And our "first ancestors" were not monkeys. They were hominids.
At any rate, please don't try to talk about human evolution if you don't know anything about it. - christor, on 12/08/2008, -1/+6Eating meat isn't the problem. It's raising animals for consumption that creates greater greenhouse gas emission than raising plants for consumption. Maybe you care about that, and maybe you don't. But I'm not sure I see your point.
- cnot3, on 12/08/2008, -0/+5It's not a problem, it's a solution.
- sealink, on 12/08/2008, -0/+5"because evolution didn't design you with cheesecake in mind."
Heretic! - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+5"eating what my body asks for"
Not always advisable, since my body's cravings generally boil down to some unholy combination of raw fish, chocolate, energy drinks, and beer.
Jokes aside, your body is designed to function in a very different nutritional environment than the one in which it presumably lives. Sugar, for instance, is available in unnatural abundance in the modern world, and your body isn't always going to be able to say "hey, I think that's enough cheesecake" because evolution didn't design you with cheesecake in mind. So: listen to your body, but also know when to force your logic to override it. - Elranzer, on 12/08/2008, -2/+7Eat more fruits & vegetables, less meat and junk food.
Sounds more like 1st grade nutrition to me, not rocket science. - anodos, on 12/08/2008, -1/+6I'm the kind of person that gains weight just looking at food. If I eat what I want, I'll gain weight every day without end. Over Thanksgiving I ate whatever I wanted when family was in town. In 10 days, I gained 10 pounds. However, a year ago I changed to the diet this guy recommends on my own. Well, it's similar anyway: I have 5 servings of fruit (think like 5 apples) and a single salad (with a no calorie dressing) as my food until I get home in the evening (6 pm), at which time I eat a normal meal. I spread those 5 pieces of fruit throughout the day, eating two for breakfast, two in the afternoon, and one for lunch with my salad. I certainly lost weight much more slowly than this guy, but in a year I have managed to lose 40 pounds, and I look like an entirely different person. My health has vastly improved: I haven't been sick even once in the last year (I was ALWAYS sick before) - even though sickness has worked its way through everyone else in my home several times. I no longer get drowsy in the afternoon, my blood sugar has stabilized, old problems (arthritis, etc) have disappeared. It's just an incredible difference. Since going back on the diet, I've already lost 5 pounds from Thanksgiving...
- ValDeV, on 12/08/2008, -16/+21Read the article, nice, but common sense.
- jnichols, on 12/08/2008, -0/+5I think everyone should go on an all Bacon diet... No bread, lots of dairy and boat loads of bacon
- secrity, on 12/08/2008, -0/+5If you go out to eat dinner frequently, this sort of food regimen (I am not sure that I would call it a diet) would make life much easier.
- Adamlite, on 12/08/2008, -0/+4Dairy farmers and the dairy lobby didn't like the competition their butter was getting from margarine, so they influenced legislation to make margarine less appealing by forcing it to be pink. FYI, I read up on oleos right after Thanksgiving (curiosity about my great-grandmother's old-fashioned roll recipe).
- OUChevelleSS, on 12/09/2008, -0/+4Ok? The guy in the article eats meat too.
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