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- AmyVernon, on 12/27/2008, -5/+70That's positively un-American.
- Maddoktor2, on 12/27/2008, -1/+62And this, kids, is how City Councils legislate themselves out of jobs.
- msaleem, on 12/27/2008, -6/+42That makes me a sad panda.
- radsdigger, on 12/27/2008, -3/+35Not sure how people will survive Iowa City without this...
- Eduard0, on 12/28/2008, -2/+29I went to college at the University of Iowa in Iowa City and the reason this is an issue is because there is a huge bar scene there where underage drinking occurs blatantly. The city turns their cheek b/c they rake in huge amounts of cash through drinking and public intox tickets. It is not a HUGE university but there are 30,000 students and a mere 70,000 city residents so it does cause quite a scene. It is not some random iowa town that is trying to go un-American, it is a college town where binge drinking is rampant and the city makes half ass efforts in making it look like they give a $#|^ when they really dont. They never end up passing any of those initiatives.
- Evolutuon, on 12/28/2008, -3/+28Wtf. What makes them think they can ban a business's right to set discounts?
- Myztry, on 12/27/2008, -0/+24The hour gets to stay, only the happy gets banned.
- allocate, on 12/27/2008, -3/+26I never knew what happy hour was until I moved to Happy Valley. Now I refuse to puke for more than $10.
- Coestar, on 12/28/2008, -5/+27The headline should read "Iowa City Considers Ban on Happiness."
- eliot2000, on 12/27/2008, -5/+26They'll get around it. Bars will offer a happy 61 minute period, or start a policy where there are never any sales, but prices are higher after seven pm or whatever.
- loaff, on 12/28/2008, -1/+19Do NOT lump me, a denizen of Iowa City, in with Utah.
- KRa104, on 12/28/2008, -0/+16If they require "a written schedule of prices — filed with the city clerk — in effect for at least a week," then it looks like they'll just have to switch to "happy week" specials. Works for me.
- scadams, on 12/28/2008, -9/+22And in other news, Iowa City overtakes San Francisco as gayest city in US.
- OrangeTide, on 12/28/2008, -0/+12telling people in your community what they can and cannot do has been an American tradition. No surprise there, luckily it's also an American tradition to tell busybodies to stick it up their ass.
- KMye, on 12/28/2008, -2/+13rta
- OrangeTide, on 12/28/2008, -1/+11Meth
- bsboard, on 12/28/2008, -0/+10They passed the one disallowing those under 19 from being in bars. Luckily I was 21 or so when that was passed.
My thoughts: Pass whatever laws you want... underage people will drink. That's what college is for. Hell, for an in-state example, look at Ames. Their bars are much more strict then Iowa City. Which means people go to house parties. - Dalrek, on 12/28/2008, -1/+10They should punish businesses a lot harder that are caught selling to minors; they should not punish anyone who can legally drink because businesses are selling to anyone they please.
- wristpull, on 12/28/2008, -2/+11Farmers don't have cars? Were you born stupid, or was there some cranial trauma in your childhood?
- nevesis, on 12/28/2008, -3/+12The city doesn't turn their cheek... the "progressives" on city council hold weekly meetings to address the problem, the police run around like the gestapo ticketing every 20 year old to ever drink a beer, and the university creates mandatory anti-drinking PSAs for incoming students. They *should* turn their cheek.
- trevordj, on 12/29/2008, -0/+9And continue to show how out of touch and idiotic they are. They've consistently shown an inability to work with their denizens, opting instead, legislation against anything that could potentially occur. It'd be nice if they actually looked at their community and conducted studies rather than looking at what everyone else is doing and copying it. One of their council members talked about the smoking ban as a very Parisian thing to do and it's where they got part of the idea.
All they're really doing is encouraging people to drink even more before they even go down to the bars. That won't cause any problems. /sarcasm - rancidpony, on 12/29/2008, -0/+8Same right that allows them to ban smoking in bars. They are the government & your right to pursue happiness is kind of flexible in their eyes.
- ordig, on 12/27/2008, -15/+23Iowa and Utah are two states I refuse to set foot in.
- Eduard0, on 12/28/2008, -2/+10"the police run around like the gestapo" The police in Iowa City are not ruthless like you elude to. There are about 50 bars where the students typically frequent and the police go in and cite a couple of people in each place and go on their way to the next establishment. No one goes to jail or anything. The cops leave knowing that half the people in there could have gotten a ticket if they ID'd everybody. They are not very hardcore.
- alex7575, on 12/28/2008, -2/+10Call it "Sad Hour" then, I usually drink more when I'm sad than happy anyway...
- inactive, on 12/28/2008, -1/+9Iowa hates freedom
- MWeather, on 12/28/2008, -1/+9Why not just ban drunk driving?
- namurt, on 12/29/2008, -0/+740+ bars in a 1 mile radius.. They'll survive.
- wristpull, on 12/28/2008, -0/+7Trust me, the people this'll affect in IC won't be driving drunk so much as they would be stumbling into the fountain in the pedmall.
- felttippin, on 12/28/2008, -0/+7At the Deadwood (in Iowa City) they call it "Angry Hour"!
- PopcornDave, on 12/28/2008, -1/+7I suspect that the bars will just sell coupon books for a very small fee that are good between certain hours thereby getting around this new proposal. If the council disallows the sale of coupons for alcohol then they'd have to disallow them for food as well or I think they'd be in for a huge lawsuit.
- o76923, on 12/28/2008, -0/+6that's why they were first on the bandwagon to allow marriage for gays and lesbians. Damn pinko-commies trying to take away rights by giving them to people...
- o76923, on 12/28/2008, -3/+9public welfare. Selling alcohol is highly regulated anyway, the city can basically do whatever they want about selling it. Turns out that there is no right to sell alcohol guaranteed to businesses, they're just putting one more limit on what you have to do to get the privilege of selling alcohol.
- Chainheart2, on 12/28/2008, -2/+8Piss off silly troll, find some purpose in your life rather than constructing arrogant straw man arguments to satisfy your hatred of others (referring to this and other comments made by you, obviously)
- badenglishihave, on 12/28/2008, -2/+7The solution is not getting rid of happy hour, it's tougher punishment for those caught driving under the influence.
- namurt, on 12/29/2008, -0/+5Hmm.. which is more conservative.. Texas or Iowa?
- bsboard, on 12/28/2008, -0/+5Currently, the VAST majority go to the bars. But that is because you only had to be 18 to get in (now its 19) and once inside most places didn't check IDs (especially Fitzys).
However as bars get more strict, you are right. People will just start going to house parties. - Singularitarian, on 12/28/2008, -0/+5Indeed, government oppression continues to happen in many different places. Why should we be interested in any one specific case? Let's just forget about all of it, and go get drunk.
- orangester, on 12/28/2008, -1/+6As a current U Iowa student, this will never pass. One of the headlines in our paper said "Recession Can't Touch Alcohol Sales". The bar scene is too huge here, nothing ever comes to pass to limit drinking.
- namurt, on 12/29/2008, -0/+540+ bars in a 1 mile radius.. I think they'll survive.
- felttippin, on 12/28/2008, -0/+5Banning Happy Hour will do absolutely nothing to address binge drinking. Happy Hour is usually in the around 2 - 7 PM during weekdays and usually includes food specials just to get people in the door at those slow hours. It's just like Jiffy Lube running $10 off for their Early Bird Specials while business is slow. Students are out binging over a hamburger and fries while they eat their lunch.
I attended the U of Iowa when they switched it to the minium age to 19. This is not the first attempt that the city council has attempted these ridiculous bans. The problem is that the more the push people out of the controlled enviroment of a bar, the greater the unsupervised house party environment grows. - PeterODactyl, on 12/28/2008, -1/+6"Stopping alcohol abuse isn't un-American"
Yes, I believe it is. - o76923, on 12/28/2008, -2/+7Yeah, what a novel thought, having police enforce the laws just enough that people know there is a chance they'll get caught. Maybe it will discourage some from breaking the law in the first place.
Besides, this is an anti-abuse measure, not an anti-drinking measure. If prices are fixed you don't have an incentive to chug alot over a short period instead of less over a longer period. - dtr18c, on 12/28/2008, -0/+5http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hog ...
- semisweetchild, on 12/29/2008, -0/+5Yeah, they're putting in a new one as we speak. Seriously.
- Phylter, on 12/28/2008, -1/+5I guess the City Council doesn't have enough work for the City Clerk, what a ***** joke. Clearly, they want to guarantee their tax revenue from alcohol sales.
- felttippin, on 12/28/2008, -1/+5Utah does have great skiing.
Iowa is definitely not the most exciting state; but Iowa City is a awesome city! - tushyd, on 12/29/2008, -0/+4Iowa's not in the Bible Belt...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt - o76923, on 12/28/2008, -3/+7Anyone who thinks this is ridiculous doesn't understand Eastern Iowa at all. In Iowa City, you can go to a bar and as long as you look over 14, get a drink. All bars know checking ID just decreases business and the gov has no way of keeping up with the underage drinking problem.
So, instead of passing restrictive laws banning minors from getting any alcohol (because those are bound to fail), they are trying to legislate away binge drinking. They have already passed laws banning 2 for 1 sales because that encourages people to buy more alcohol (instead bars offer each for half). Now they want to eliminate windows where it is advantageous to consume large amounts of alcohol quickly.
Stopping alcohol abuse isn't un-American. - curtis87xc03, on 12/28/2008, -0/+4ITT: someone who's never drank with friends before or XXX maniac
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