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India to America: Eat Less, Fatties
time.com — The message from many Indians over the past two weeks has been stark: Americans should stop blaming others and start eating less...
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- known, on 05/16/2008, -26/+61. Indian society views farming as a Low End Job where only the Low Caste People are supposed to work.
2. Ban all futures commodities trading in India and in Rest Of The World.
3. Provide free transport for distribution of Fruits and Food grains within India.- rey1867, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5Are you gonna provide the free transportation ?
- known, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Yes, when I am capable of doing it.
- rey1867, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5Are you gonna provide the free transportation ?
- exronin, on 05/16/2008, -8/+51"President Bush has never been known for his eloquence, but his comment earlier this month that India's growing middle class was demanding "better nutrition and better food, and so demand is high, and that causes the price to go up" was neither particularly mangled nor, at first flush, offensive. In the days since, though, India's most nationalistic politicians, newspapers and television pundits have expressed outrage, calling Bush's comment rude and insensitive because it suggests Indians are to blame for recent global food price increases and implies they should eat less. "U.S. Eats 5 Times More than India Per Capita" blared a headline in the Times of India"
Leave it to GWB to cut ties with any potential allies in case WW3 ever broke out.- Lyph5, on 05/16/2008, -4/+13The goal should be preventing WW3 from breaking out, not securing allies in case it ever does.
- masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10I would think both would be terribly important to the future.
- Lyph5, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Lets avoid WW3 as best we can. - masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Well, war is inevitable. Having allies is the difference between the world today or a world as Nazi slaves.
- Lyph5, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
- ayeroxor, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4My goal is never dying, buy I'm prepared for it anyway...
- masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10I would think both would be terribly important to the future.
- flashback99, on 05/16/2008, -10/+6If Bush told India to eat less (and India was a superpower that could feed it's people), I would consider that an offensive remark.
Agreed that nationalism is a real problem in India, and perhaps it should look at it's own desperate corruption and overpopulation that results in a government that struggles to deal with food shortages and healthcare.
Every country has it's problems. Comments like this don't help anyone. Indian or American.- jrbrewin, on 05/16/2008, -2/+7"perhaps it should look at it's own desperate corruption and overpopulation that results in a government that struggles to deal with food shortages and healthcare."
india, or america?- Radian, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1india.
- DM01, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Both.
- exronin, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Its barely been 50 years since its Independence and its come fairly far... give it a few more years. Takes time for a country to form its own identity and balance.
- jrbrewin, on 05/16/2008, -2/+7"perhaps it should look at it's own desperate corruption and overpopulation that results in a government that struggles to deal with food shortages and healthcare."
- thespi007, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5plus obesity rates are highest in us :P
- SilverBlade2k, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2I personally think that WW3 has already begun. It just hasn't escalated to that point yet..
- Lyph5, on 05/16/2008, -4/+13The goal should be preventing WW3 from breaking out, not securing allies in case it ever does.
- bincoder, on 05/16/2008, -57/+45America to India:
I weigh 140 lbs. Stop breeding like rabbits, have you heard of birth control? Or do you just make everything for export only?- str3ama, on 05/16/2008, -20/+2wow that was idiotic, one of the biggest problems facing America and Canada is that they both have low birth rates. Believe it or not but high birth rate is actually a good thing, even with overpopulation - their are more gains then losses in having a hefty population.
However having a population that is overweight, is more of a problem not just because of people's health and such - but also because we're becoming a largely consumptive society. As you mentioned, most of our stuff is imported to us - very little is actually produced here, and we've lost much of our autonomy now that we depend on so many foreign nations to clothe and feed us.- ripple123, on 05/16/2008, -2/+11Sure man, I mean, if theres one problem the worlds got, its not enough people......
- Lyph5, on 05/16/2008, -5/+4First, high birth rates are terrible things. Means that the parents have to work more and more and get to raise their children less and less.
Second, it's not overpopulation it's overcrowding.
Third, we eat more fatty foods because we're rushing between two jobs, soccer practice for the kids, the store to get groceries, and day-care. We don't have the time to sit down and eat a nice home-cooked meal with the family. That's why we eat fast food.
There are TONS of kids in the US that are abandoned by their parents or put up for adoption. The birth rate may be low compared to India and Africa, but it's not 0. - mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Enough people jump the border every year to offset our low birth rates. We are still gaining people, and we are even doing so at a healthy rate.
Russia looses about 100k people a year last I heard, thats an issue.- hempydave, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1There are less of us , so we have to be bigger to make up for it.
- jo21, on 05/16/2008, -8/+5i am 125lbs you are fatty :)
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -3/+10In today's India (and in China), the middle class family limit their kids to one or two. Having lots of kids was norm in many parts of the world and didn't only exist in India, do some research.
- turkeyssr, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1It doesn't matter. The damage has been done. It's up to the people that are left to have NO children to balance out the existing excess today, dumbass.
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Well two can play at that game.
India - 1 billion people
China - 1 billion people
Southeast Asia - 0.5 billion
Africa - will reach 1 billion people soon (922 million as of 2005)
Middle east - 0.5 billion
Europeans / Whites - 2 billion
Well it looks like it's you who should stop having children and let the rest of the world catch up. Now go get some education so I don't see you next time I visit McDonald's.
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Well two can play at that game.
- turkeyssr, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1It doesn't matter. The damage has been done. It's up to the people that are left to have NO children to balance out the existing excess today, dumbass.
- ICSU, on 05/16/2008, -1/+13Not a bad trade.
West - stop being fat and wasting some much energy and sources.
3rd World - stop overpopulation and emancipate women.- Prathik89, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1emancipate women? what the *****?
- gixxer07, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3Is your dad impotent ?
- exronin, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Yes because you alone represent America, Just like West Virginia does and just does like Apple Pie. Get over yourself. As a country we are fat/obese/overeating.
- enmattp, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Get over yourself, stop eating so much beef and using up your corn for ethanol. Maybe then you'll have more food. I'm an American and I'm ashamed at what dumbo from cowboy land said.
- str3ama, on 05/16/2008, -20/+2wow that was idiotic, one of the biggest problems facing America and Canada is that they both have low birth rates. Believe it or not but high birth rate is actually a good thing, even with overpopulation - their are more gains then losses in having a hefty population.
- DeskFlyer, on 05/16/2008, -4/+47***** you, I'm an anteater!
- j0hnc0ry, on 05/16/2008, -31/+10(Apu voice) Hello thank you for calling HP customer service, this is Tom, how may I help you?
- kingatrock, on 05/16/2008, -27/+11America to India:
Stop dying of starvation and disease.
wow, things look smaller from this soapbox. - jer2eydevil88, on 05/16/2008, -24/+8In other news America tells India that China is quickly becoming one of the largest english speaking nations and that they may want to reconsider insulting the hand that feeds them.
- RoshanK, on 05/16/2008, -6/+17Do remember that it was the US that was pointing fingers at India as a cause of food shortages. India never started this. It was a reply to the US for their statement.
- MasterPain, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2George Bush is not America.
- skj08, on 06/03/2008, -0/+1well, george bush is the president, who was elected by americans to represent them.
and if you want to go by your logic, the person who replied to America's comment was not "india" either.
- skj08, on 06/03/2008, -0/+1well, george bush is the president, who was elected by americans to represent them.
- MasterPain, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2George Bush is not America.
- jer2eydevil88, on 05/16/2008, -6/+5I stand by my statement as I have put up with long and strenuous calls to their homeland, if they cannot put up with an insult or two from our idiot of a president they are at fault.
Next time I get a polite, knowledgable and coherent English speaking Indian on the phone I will reconsider my position.- gixxer07, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1or Blow GWB
- RoshanK, on 05/16/2008, -6/+17Do remember that it was the US that was pointing fingers at India as a cause of food shortages. India never started this. It was a reply to the US for their statement.
- yerrrp85, on 05/16/2008, -16/+25for realz, india got it right
- daridave, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2should read: "World to America: Eat Less, Fatties". Seriously, everywhere I've been... everybody agrees... we need more Subway restaurants. /sarcasm
- Reedan, on 05/16/2008, -3/+34Where is the 'bury as flamebait' option?
- Barackalypse, on 05/16/2008, -34/+7American to India: Die hungry so I can breath your air and get my outsourced call center jobs back so I can understand my customer service reps again.
- charm803, on 05/16/2008, -4/+10AMERICA is the one OUTSOURCING jobs!!!
They aren't stealing them! Take it up with the multi national corporations! - ayeroxor, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4The word is "breathe," Captain Intellect...
- charm803, on 05/16/2008, -4/+10AMERICA is the one OUTSOURCING jobs!!!
- GorfTron, on 05/16/2008, -25/+8America to India - stop riding on the tops of trains by the thousands and get indoor plumbing.
- mikedeezy33, on 05/16/2008, -21/+11I will cut down my eating when they stop having so many kids.
- RoshanK, on 05/16/2008, -4/+35Please RTFA before commenting. This is a reply to the US when GWB stated that India was to blame for the food shortages.
- flashback99, on 05/16/2008, -1/+11It's sad that India stoops to Bush's level.
- and303, on 05/16/2008, -16/+15Isn't it coincidental that I am on tech support with HP right now, WHILE eating a slice of apple pie at 4am?
- str3ama, on 05/16/2008, -11/+13cue the anti-India comment without having read the article.
- dagamore, on 05/16/2008, -18/+8Let see, a failed cast system that locks people in to jobs via cast not skill and they wonder why they can’t feed themselves. I have an idea quit letting the cows run the ***** country and eat up some ***** hamburgers. I know it’s a novel idea but hey it will double the amount of available food for your starving ass.
Quote from http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/humanitarian_assista ...
Current USG Programs
Administered by USAID, the P.L. 480 Title II program is the largest U.S. food aid program. In FY 2007, the USG provided more than 2.1 million metric tons (MT) of P.L. 480 Title II commodities, worth $1.54 billion. Food assistance provided under this program reached an estimated 32 million beneficiaries throughout the world.
On April 14, President George W. Bush directed the Secretary of Agriculture to draw down on the Bill Emerson Humanitarian Trust to meet emergency food aid needs. With this action, the USG made available an estimated $200 million in emergency food aid through USAID. USAID is also committing an additional $40 million as a bridge to further funding to be announced on May 1 by President Bush. This additional food aid will address the near term impact of rising commodity prices on U.S. emergency food aid programs. This assistance will be used to meet unanticipated food aid needs in Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Afghanistan, Haiti, Bangladesh, Somalia, Mauritania, Uganda, and Sudan. WFP and NGOs will distribute this assistance.
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Guess the lazy FAT ASS Americans should just keep the 2.1 Million Metric Tons of food we gave away last year. Yeah that’s the ticket bite the hand that’s feeding you.- nishaa, on 05/16/2008, -8/+2 Feedin us?? Wow!! U really ****** think we'd die without u feeding us?? Get a life!! Just coz u grant us some ***** aid we should be listen 2 any crap u'l says?? U can take ur ****** aid back.. And though we'r have a huge population, we consume less... So, stop blamin us for UR fault!
- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Yes, you would have had huge die offs due to food if the US had not stepped in to help. Both with food exports and teaching you how to grow it using modern methods.
I bet you dont even know who Norman Borlaug is do you?
- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Yes, you would have had huge die offs due to food if the US had not stepped in to help. Both with food exports and teaching you how to grow it using modern methods.
- jrbrewin, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1i'm sure everyone would be entirely happy if america trying to dictate how the rest of the world operates, and stopped giving out 'help', especially the people of iraq and afghanistan. $200m (which is worth, what, about £3 these days anyway) hardly outweighs the trillions wasted on some stupid war in which you've killed more than you'll ever help.
- execute85, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1Cows are an inefficient source of protein. So they wouldn't be better off eating cows. It takes 100 pounds of vegetable matter to produce 1 pound of beef.
Vegetarian lifestyles are the most efficient, resource wife, and probably the only way India can feed its burgeoning population.- dagamore, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4While I agree with you about the efficiency issue of beef production. But they already have the cows, and they are already wasting the grain/grass to feed them and keep in mind that cows can and do eat grains such as switch grass that people can not get any protein from. So while it is not the best option, getting ride of the cast system, new farming methods, and a better food distro-network would be a long way to fixing the problem of India not being able to feed it self.
My point that was poorly worded was. The problem of starvation in India is not the US fault, nor is the over consumption by the US causing the starvation in India. Because the US Exports more food then it imports, and is feeding a lot of the world. And that does not give the US the right to dictate to the countries it is feeding how to live, but is should at least get the same said countries to shut the ***** up.
But that won’t happen.- hempydave, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2They are stupid , let them die if you believe in Evolution/Darwinism so hard
- execute85, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1The cows just wander around and eat grass on the side of the road. So it's not like tons of grain is going toward feedind the cows. Plus, there's not that many of them (since no one grows them for meat).
Of course, modernizing their food production would help, but eating beef wouldn't.
- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3Your comment is so full of fail its hard to grasp.
They already have the cows, and keep the cows alive. Its a whole lot more inefficient to raise food and keep it alive forever than it is to eat the damn thing.
Oh, and that 1 pound of beef tastes ***** awsome. And in the US, it hardly costs anything. mmmmmmmm.
Vegetarians, lol. That just means more cow for me.- hempydave, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Thou shalt eat the meat of the beast of the field.
:GOD
- hempydave, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Thou shalt eat the meat of the beast of the field.
- dagamore, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4While I agree with you about the efficiency issue of beef production. But they already have the cows, and they are already wasting the grain/grass to feed them and keep in mind that cows can and do eat grains such as switch grass that people can not get any protein from. So while it is not the best option, getting ride of the cast system, new farming methods, and a better food distro-network would be a long way to fixing the problem of India not being able to feed it self.
- nishaa, on 05/16/2008, -8/+2 Feedin us?? Wow!! U really ****** think we'd die without u feeding us?? Get a life!! Just coz u grant us some ***** aid we should be listen 2 any crap u'l says?? U can take ur ****** aid back.. And though we'r have a huge population, we consume less... So, stop blamin us for UR fault!
- d3vmax, on 05/16/2008, -5/+43I am from Bombay and I know there is a huge divide between the population in terms of wealth, education, access to facilities, etc. There are many obese people in India not only among the better off but even the middle class due to the opening of the economy, better access to food varieties and progress in general.
Give India time it is still developing. The problems spoken in the above comments like riding on top of trains, 'indoor plumbing' (???), Starvation and diseases, etc will be reduced in the coming decade and hopefully gone in 20 years times as most of the population will be better educated, the infrastructure will be developed as right now it is in a terrible state.
India is made up of different states with different cultures and people, much like Europe but it is a single country and to bring about changes in people's perception and cultural habits is hard but some how the country still runs. After US got independence I am sure not all problems were solved and it took many years to become developed and during that developing phase there was less emphasis on health and safety. The same goes with the current developing regions.
Oh well time will tell if what I have written above is right or wrong. But I am sure you will read a headline that says ,'The number of obese people rising rapidly in India'. (Due to progress and people having to work less harder and being better off)- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3I hope the riding on top of the train never goes away, where else can you do this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bym9Zds93rA
- ZenMojo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Wait, so a Republican picks a fight with India and India responds in kind but now an army of Diggers has responded by insulting India in a nationalistic fervor? Now you know how Republicans keep getting elected into office.
- Karmashock, on 05/16/2008, -13/+32America still exports more food then it imports... whatever the individual American is doing (up to and including swimming in pudding), America as a nation is feeding people... like India. India is however eating more then it is producing.
Sooo... India telling the US to eat less is not credible. You have two options. 1: institute modern agricultural practices like the US which will produce more food at a lower cost. 2: Institute Chinese style birth control. That or go hungry. Not our fault.- flashback99, on 05/16/2008, -6/+8India is not eating more dude. The population is high in India, so more people are consuming more in general. In fact the population is so high that people go hungry as the wealth / food and healthcare is not evenly distributed, or managed properly like what happens in the bigger cities.
- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Is reading hard for you? He said "India is however eating more then it is producing", and it in fact is.
The US exports food, India imports it (and worships some of it).
India can fix its own damn problems.- hempydave, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1Well help them by sending condoms and farm tools/books.
Teach a man to fish sorta thing.
- hempydave, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1Well help them by sending condoms and farm tools/books.
- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Is reading hard for you? He said "India is however eating more then it is producing", and it in fact is.
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3"In 1952, India was the first country in the world to launch a mass media campaign to spread the concept of family planning in response to population growth."
"and today the average number of children per woman is around three."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/worldbalance/campaign ...
"LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — Michelle Duggar (search) just delivered her 16th child, and she's already thinking about doing it again."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172051,00.html
"Until the 20th century people had lots of kids and lots of them died. Just look at genealogy [well, mine anyway.] Women would have 7 - 9 - 11 kids..."
http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=1092
Having lots of kids was the norm in many parts of the world and not just in India.
- flashback99, on 05/16/2008, -6/+8India is not eating more dude. The population is high in India, so more people are consuming more in general. In fact the population is so high that people go hungry as the wealth / food and healthcare is not evenly distributed, or managed properly like what happens in the bigger cities.
- diargasm, on 05/16/2008, -13/+6America to India: Get 'er done punjabis!
- caponumen, on 05/16/2008, -4/+10And which India is spewing this rhetoric?
In this case they are the geniuses that have done such a wonderful job running India's government and economy. So considering the state of the country and its prospects at a better future, this statement should be taken them with a grain of rice.- Cornea, on 05/16/2008, -3/+8India's GDP growth rate in 2006-7 was only four times greater than the USA's. You are so right - they really should listen more to Bush about how to run an economy.
- execute85, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Since the average GDP for emerging economies is 6.5%, India isn't doing anything that spectacular. So they are average compared to their peers.
Comparing the GDP growth of developing nations to the US/Europe is foolish. Would you rather have 2% growth on a 1 million dollar account or 10% growth on a 100k dollar account?
- execute85, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Since the average GDP for emerging economies is 6.5%, India isn't doing anything that spectacular. So they are average compared to their peers.
- Cornea, on 05/16/2008, -3/+8India's GDP growth rate in 2006-7 was only four times greater than the USA's. You are so right - they really should listen more to Bush about how to run an economy.
- cranium, on 05/16/2008, -4/+14And here I am planning on pigging out on Indian food for lunch today.
- 3leggedHorse, on 05/16/2008, -13/+4 America to India "Stop In-breeding and creating all those freak children with ticks and two faces and over populating the planet"
- edgeofreason, on 05/16/2008, -7/+27America to India: OM NOM NOM NOM
- TheZenCowSaysMu, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1India to America: OMM OMM OMM OMM
- jonr, on 05/16/2008, -7/+19Hehe... seems like the truth hurts... Go out and exercise, fatties. Look down, does your belly spill over the belt? Time to exercise and put down that french fries and coke.
- diargasm, on 05/16/2008, -8/+5OH ya? This is America. We didn't get to the top of the world taking ***** from Eurofags like you. Shouldn't you be at a rave OD'ing on Ecstasy and blowing off some guy named Gunther in the bathroom?
- fLUx1337, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1haha....top of the world?
Now please don't take this the wrong way, you guys work just has hard as any other country - but YOUR ECONOMY IS GOING DOWN HILL due to your ***** government. That isn't what I would call top of the world, get a decent president and wait a good few years, then we will reconsider your place based on how big your country is.- diargasm, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1So what? At least our great-grandsons won't be named Muhammad and be speaking Arabic. Grow some balls. I guess WW2 left Europe run with bitches because all the men with balls died.
- execute85, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1I define top of the world as largest economy. So yes, the US is on top of the world. However in 40 years, it could be China's term.
(also, productivity in the US as well as hours worked is much higher than the rest of the world - yingjai, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1diargasm, you are one sad little boy
- ka2err, on 05/16/2008, -3/+0> We didn't get to the top of the world
You didn't. Your parents, ancestors did by acting intelligently. And by using not too many dirty tricks to scare away all allies.
> Eurofags like you.
All you do is spoiling their efforts and ruining your country for you, your children and grandchildren.
On the next 9/11 like event there will be nobody to say "Today we all are Americans". - nimbletimble, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Sounds like an E might be just what you need.. remember to drink plenty of water, you won't be used to the exercise..
- fLUx1337, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1haha....top of the world?
- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2I could give a ***** what a guy named "John" from a country full of cows that they wont eat and who has 15 kids thinks. Oh, and this same country that cant even feed itself.
The Middle East has Oil, the US has food.
At least China is trying to control its growth.
- diargasm, on 05/16/2008, -8/+5OH ya? This is America. We didn't get to the top of the world taking ***** from Eurofags like you. Shouldn't you be at a rave OD'ing on Ecstasy and blowing off some guy named Gunther in the bathroom?
- JasonCox, on 05/16/2008, -7/+11Excuse me, I'm going to eat my cheeseburger.
- jprater, on 05/16/2008, -14/+11America to India: Stop overpopulating the world. Learn to use a condom or keep the legs closed.
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -11/+4Indian Civilization = over 3000 years old
US = just around 300 years old
So of course we have more people dumbass. Imagine the population of US in 3000 years.
Yes we were pretty rich at one time, until we got raped by the Muslim invaders, then later on by the British.- brezhoneg, on 05/16/2008, -4/+0jozb : learn your history.
India as a country with its modern borders : 61 years old. Before : a diverse assembly of small kingdoms.
Indian civilization (encompassing those diverse kingdoms) = over 3000 years old
American civilization = over 3000 years old too, buddy. What you call American civilization, like all western civilizations, started in ancient Greece with people like Homer.- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2You mean European Civilization or Western Civilization is 3000 years old. America belonged to the natives till Columbus landed here, whilst looking for India. Hence the name "Indians" for the native Americans who were living in the Americas.
I'm talking about the starting point since we are comparing populations of US vs. India. Population of India has a continuous existence for 3000 years. The natives of America were almost wiped out, so there is a reset point around 300 years ago when the population began to start growing again.
If you want to compare European / White to Indian civilization, that is no problem too.
India - 1 billion people
China - 1 billion people
Southeast Asia - 0.5 billion
Africa - will reach 1 billion people soon (922 million as of 2005)
Middle east - 0.5 billion
Europeans / Whites - 2 billion
So how did the OP come up with the idea India is overpopulating the world, without comparing the other whites who are spread around the world, (austraila, south america, north america, europe, russia). They constitute to over 2 billion people almost double the population of India. - brezhoneg, on 05/16/2008, -3/+0You are really making a lot of efforts to not understand.
First, Americans didn't magically appear out of nowhere 300 years ago. They are the continuation of a long line of civilization, the Western civilization.
Second, if you knew a bit of history outside of elementary school manuals, you would know that Native Americans merged with alien populations, mostly Africans and Europeans. They evolved, they didn't completely disappear. Lots of modern Americans have native ancestors. Lots of Natives also had black slaves, which is why people like Jimi Hendrix or James Earl Jones have native blood.
Third, yes, India and China among others are overpopulating the world, not because of their respective population at a given point of time, but because of their growth. Just look at how much their population INCREASED over the past 50 years. - jozb, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2just want to make something clear. it seems like you are saying American's are all part of this "western civilization", you do realize not everyone came from Greece. Your statement would offend lots of Africans, Chinese, because they are just as much an American as anybody from Europe.
"natives didn't completely disappear" ya thats why I said "natives of America were almost wiped out"
Nice use of the word "evolved." What you are talking about is called Ethnocide or Cultural genocide. "indigenous peoples of the Americas had been the victims of ethnocides (the destruction of a culture)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of ...
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2You mean European Civilization or Western Civilization is 3000 years old. America belonged to the natives till Columbus landed here, whilst looking for India. Hence the name "Indians" for the native Americans who were living in the Americas.
- brezhoneg, on 05/16/2008, -4/+0jozb : learn your history.
- LukasSmith, on 05/16/2008, -2/+4They say if China or India were to reach American consumption rates they would consume everything on the planet. I mean I'm not angry these two nations are rising. But surely they could discover birth control and condoms on their way up. Because if you think there is no problem you are dead wrong. The more India and China wealth grows and the more they consume the more desperate the rest of the world will become and desperation leads to war war and more war. The problem today is that our civilization is too advanced. You know when you fight nature as modern medicine does, your asking for trouble. What we need is a good plague or two. Unfortunatly, we would probably be able to contain it before it could do much damage. Nature will not tolerate us much longer. Don't be afraid for nature, be afraid of nature.
- Sunnygurm, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Keep the legs closed? I've yet to meet an American girl who kept her legs closed for longer than 3 days within meeting her....I figured I'd throw that out there since everyone is stereotyping. Jackass.
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -11/+4Indian Civilization = over 3000 years old
- nimbletimble, on 05/16/2008, -3/+6I find it more shocking how much food us westerners throw away, up to a third of all food in the UK
Daily Mail I know but there's truth in there..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/new ...- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Agreed. Next time you go out to eat, just look around at all the food that goes to waste.
Of course it does us a lot more harm to always clean our plates. Still annoying to see so much food wasted.
- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Agreed. Next time you go out to eat, just look around at all the food that goes to waste.
- bdpf, on 05/16/2008, -12/+13Grow it, so you can eat it, or just shut up. We have been feeding you for years.
- Treoinmypocket, on 05/16/2008, -16/+11America to India - shut up and starve to death already.
Oh and yea, none of you people are named "John" or "Robert" or "Susan"....that's right...I'm talking to YOU Rashnish...so next time I call customer service? DON'T ***** LIE TO ME!- arkavat, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4That is because American companies, that hire them, forces them to change their name. American consumers think that only John Robert or susan are capable of solving their problem... not Rashnish...
When avg american consumers stop being ignorant... they will stop using fake names...- Treoinmypocket, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3It was a joke.
But "avg american consumers stop being ignorant" is contradicted by "That is because American companies, that hire them, forces them to change their name."
American consumers aren't ignorant on this point, it is the companies who foolishly believe they are fooling consumers into believing their call is being answered by somebody at the company headquarters.
The consumers aren't fooled by the name or the location.
- Treoinmypocket, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3It was a joke.
- arkavat, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4That is because American companies, that hire them, forces them to change their name. American consumers think that only John Robert or susan are capable of solving their problem... not Rashnish...
- chetanthaker, on 05/16/2008, -7/+2America to India - Thank us that you dont have George Bush
- Sh0rtcake, on 05/16/2008, -8/+3wow.. lots of ***** people on here.. times of transition are always the hardest in every aspect, especially relationships. this includes international relationships (ie: India and the US). times of transition are the hardest because while things are moving and people are forced to adjust to these ever-changing conditions, relationships weaken. they weaken because people have more/different/changing priorities. as relationships weaken, people become more self-destructive. this is evident in suicide rates- they go up during divorce, during economic shifts (depressions, recessions, wars), after deaths in the family, or even after losing your job. as these relationships become weak, people find less meaning in their own lives because it's almost like they're 'losing' a part of it. this is all relevant because we are all effected by each other and we are all in times of global economic transition. the best way to get through all of it is to STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER for our own problems and try to make changes in our every-day lives. improve your own relationships in your family. drive less, eat less, go outside more, exercise, grow your own food (if it's possible) walk to the store, practice safe sex, stop shopping for frivolous things (buy only what you NEED to survive), help your friends, help a stranger, volunteer, recycle, drive consciously, and tip your server even if she brought you the wrong salad. keep in mind- everyone would like things to change, but only those who want it do something about it.
- jmaxwell, on 05/16/2008, -6/+4My fellow Indians, ignore this thinly veiled xenophobic "they took er jerbs" tirade on Digg. While the majority of Americans are more open-minded than this, you do have to realize they managed to put Bush in power. Twice.
In before tasteless jokes on curries, call centers, beef, dots-not-feathers, funny accents, etc... - TheMachine1, on 05/16/2008, -6/+1Chinese increasing meat consumption and increasing owning pets (that eat meat based food) is a big part of demand increases.
The problem is the price of grain(too high for poor people). What percent of the price of grain is due to the price of oil? - ceredron, on 05/16/2008, -10/+9If the indians would only eat beef...
- skj08, on 06/03/2008, -0/+0WOW obviously not all indians dont abstain from eating beef.
and the ones who do, do it because its part of their religion.
i understand you're probly kidding, but religion is something which should be respected.
- skj08, on 06/03/2008, -0/+0WOW obviously not all indians dont abstain from eating beef.
- raada, on 05/16/2008, -13/+6America to India: Breed less, roaches.
And so the flame war goes on... and on... - orlyfactor, on 05/16/2008, -14/+6Americans to Indians: Stink less, Stindians!
- briLo, on 05/16/2008, -17/+9America to India - Use some soap you smell ***** tard!
- Sunnygurm, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0India to America - Thanks for the job, lazy ass!
- mike17032, on 05/16/2008, -14/+11America to India: ***** yourselves, and breed less.
Dropping out 15 babies per family generation after generation has consequences, learn to feed your ***** selves.
Oh, and try eating a ***** cow instead of pretending its a god. They taste awsome.- SuminderJi, on 05/16/2008, -3/+3Wow... we have reasons behind worshiping a cow.
Its because of those reasons, I wont step into your low level and rip your faith.- MasterPain, on 05/16/2008, -4/+2Moooooo
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4It's people like you that give America a bad name.
"In 1952, India was the first country in the world to launch a mass media campaign to spread the concept of family planning in response to population growth."
"and today the average number of children per woman is around three."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/worldbalance/campaign ...
"LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — Michelle Duggar (search) just delivered her 16th child, and she's already thinking about doing it again."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172051,00.html
now who is having how many kids now, thats right, please go educate yourself.
"Until the 20th century people had lots of kids and lots of them died. Just look at genealogy [well, mine anyway.] Women would have 7 - 9 - 11 kids..."
http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=1092
Having lots of kids was the norm in many parts of the world and not just in India.- feelthelurve, on 05/16/2008, -2/+0Uhh the fertility rate for the US was about 2 children per woman as of 2007 (versus 3 for India). Way to compare a statistic with a single data point... Here's a tip: if the woman in the story in any way represented the average American, it wouldn't make national news.
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3thats no comparison, it is just an example showing people have lots of kids everywhere, not just in India. Try to find me a story like that happening in India today. Nobody in their right mind in India has more than 2 or 3 kids. To the OP, where's your source to back up your claim?
So I guess thats why you need SUV's with 8 seats for the family right?
- jozb, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3thats no comparison, it is just an example showing people have lots of kids everywhere, not just in India. Try to find me a story like that happening in India today. Nobody in their right mind in India has more than 2 or 3 kids. To the OP, where's your source to back up your claim?
- feelthelurve, on 05/16/2008, -2/+0Uhh the fertility rate for the US was about 2 children per woman as of 2007 (versus 3 for India). Way to compare a statistic with a single data point... Here's a tip: if the woman in the story in any way represented the average American, it wouldn't make national news.
- SuminderJi, on 05/16/2008, -3/+3Wow... we have reasons behind worshiping a cow.
- Kamacurus, on 05/16/2008, -10/+4India can lick my balls, really they are all retards. if it wasn't for us they would still be belly dancing and riding camels
- arkavat, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1LOL...... i pity your ignorance.... belly dancing is not from India and only a small portion has deserts where you ride camels.... Arab != India
- UrbanVoyeur, on 05/16/2008, -2/+12The crux of the problem is population growth vs internal resources. India has not been able to produce enough to feed itself since the latter half of the 20th century. Therefore it must import food. Therefore it is at the mercy of commodity prices - food and fuel.
The question for right now is: Can India generate enough goods and services that the world values to both overcome this food deficit and proceed with development? The answer is, no, not at this time. So it is hit very hard when prices for fuel or food increase and since its population is increasing, the only answer is less food per person.
The question for the future is whether India can increase its output of goods and services the world wants fast enough to overcome its food deficit in the face of increased demand from a growing population. Given the exponential growth curve of population vs the linear growth of curve of national economies, this appears unlikely.
(Unfortunately, India does not have significant exportable quantities of fossil fuels, metals, timber or minerals. Therefore it must sell human labor. But India is also under-industrialized compared to say, China, Mexico Taiwan, Japan or Germany, and therefore cannot fully compete in the manufacture and finishing of goods. In short, India’s long term options are limited. )
The US is neither the direct cause of, nor the direct solution to the problem. What no one but China wants to talk about is population growth, specifically, slowing down population growth to buy time for industrialization and reduce the portion of the economy devoted to food importation.
Bottom line: India cannot feed itself and does not have enough of anything the world wants to buy to make up for the deficit. As its population is growing faster than its economy, the problem will only get worse. - TrunksTheMighty, on 05/16/2008, -8/+4I don't mean to sound racist or anything, but the only reason India isn't as "obese" as America is we HAVE food and like 3/4ths of that country is starving? I don't see how they have a right to judge anyone.
- tiedyeman, on 05/16/2008, -2/+15America to America: Eat Less, Fatties
- gkiltz, on 05/16/2008, -9/+2America to India: Control your attitude!
- ashicruz62, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2WTF???????
- RANDOM667, on 05/16/2008, -12/+3America to india:
Take the towels off your heads and come out of the desert. - Squigglesworth, on 05/16/2008, -1/+8I took this message to heart and ordered a medium sized meal from Wendy's instead of a large...one day I hope to go down to the small size meal and end world hunger.
- saturnx8, on 05/16/2008, -12/+4America to India :STFU and get out of my country, you obnoxious ingrates. While your at it why not experiment with space and nuclear technology while your overpopulated annoying country starves, and maybe stop selling cheap sub par tech services and stop answering all tech support calls when and learn better english. (just a parital list of ever going things ...)
One can only hope a natural disaster befalls you're country and all of your people.- Sunnygurm, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Good point! So why not:
1. Deport all Indian Doctors
2. Deport all Indian Engineers
3. Deport all Indian Scientists
4. Hell, while we're being racist; deport all Indian motel, convenience, and taxi cab owners.
See how good your economy is then...next: throw out the Chinese.
As for exploring space and nuclear technology; who is America to lecture anyone on such things? Last time I checked you are a 'superpower' yet have spent billions on the war in Iraq while affected by Hurricane Katrina are still feeling the aftermath.
We will gladly 'get out of your country'....what are you, Native American? Last I checked, if you aren't, it's not really YOUR country genius.
I give up on people.
- Sunnygurm, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Good point! So why not:
- wynja, on 05/16/2008, -7/+6I think it's time we cut the world off. Increase export tariffs by 100% and watch domestic prices fall off to reasonable levels again. Let's give India and all the other countries we feed something to really bitch about.
- MrEddy, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3American's are fat because we eat nothing but corn. If you haven't seen it watch the documentary King Corn and you will learn whats going on and why our health is so bad.
I'm not saying we don't also eat too much. But, the fact that we eat nothing but corn is bad and doesn't help.
Hamburger = Corn
Coke = Corn
French Fries = Corn
Bread = Corn- skellener, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Innacurrate
- hempydave, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Most of the western overweight can be blamed on the corporation food pyramid ***** and portion size.
Something no one can really control.
Indian's could use a condom.
NA's could go on a diet. -
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